Re: [NTG-context] TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/9, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 9, 2007 5:07 PM, Willi Egger wrote: or even more weird ones: !` - inverted exclam ?` - inverted question For Spanish this is definitevely necessary. Again if coded in UTF there is no problem. Do Spansh users still key them

Re: [NTG-context] TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''?

2007-12-10 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2007-12-09 um 00:10 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: In some old documents. In newer documents I use \quote and \quotation. Then there are documents that need to move back and forth between latex and context but for them I can easily define appropriate macros in latex. To be honest: I

Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] beta 0.20.1 released

2007-12-10 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 07 Dez 2007, Taco Hoekwater wrote: I have just uploaded the archives for luatex 0.20.1. This Debian sid users will get 0.20.1 soon by normal update. Debian etch users can add deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ deb-src

Re: [NTG-context] TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''?

2007-12-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Maurí­cio wrote: Hello, just wondering: how many ConTeXt-ers depend on ligatures such as: '' (double quote) and '' (two single quotes) - right double quote `` - left double quote ,, - DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK (...) You got replies from experienced users, so I

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:09:33 +0100 Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: 2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real reason for it

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:09:33 +0100 Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: 2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: something numbers=oldstyle

Re: [NTG-context] how to change 'figure 1.1' to '?? 1.1' (Mojca Miklavec)

2007-12-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Dec 10, 2007 7:37 AM, Dalyoung Jeong wrote: Dear Mojca, On Dec 8, 2007, at 3:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday, after I reinstalled TeXlive and updated ConTeXt, I got kpathsea: Running mktextfm lmtypewriter10-regular message. As a temporary method, I renamed mktextfm.

Re: [NTG-context] TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''?

2007-12-10 Thread Maurí­cio
Hello, just wondering: how many ConTeXt-ers depend on ligatures such as: '' (double quote) and '' (two single quotes) - right double quote `` - left double quote ,, - DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK (...) You got replies from experienced users, so I

Re: [NTG-context] TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''?

2007-12-10 Thread Willi Egger
Hi Mojca, On Dec 9, 2007, at 7:48 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Dec 9, 2007 5:07 PM, Willi Egger wrote: or even more weird ones: !` - inverted exclam ?` - inverted question For Spanish this is definitevely necessary. Again if coded in UTF there is no problem. Do Spansh users still

Re: [NTG-context] how to change 'figure 1.1' to '?? 1.1' (Mojca Miklavec)

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 10, 2007 7:37 AM, Dalyoung Jeong wrote: Dear Mojca, On Dec 8, 2007, at 3:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday, after I reinstalled TeXlive and updated ConTeXt, I got kpathsea: Running mktextfm lmtypewriter10-regular

[NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Zhichu Chen
Hi, I searched the mail list for a while and I got that if I didn't specify the font file, it will not be embeded and Acrobat Reader will just use its own fonts to show the characters. I want to make some Chinese documents and I think if I don't embed any fonts, it will be much smaller than it

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Hi Chen, can't you ue XeTeX or LuaTeX for your document instead of pdfTeX, it will be easier for you because you don't need tfm and map files and you need only the typescripts. I searched the mail list for a while and I got that if I didn't

Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] beta 0.20.1 released

2007-12-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Norbert Preining wrote: On Fr, 07 Dez 2007, Taco Hoekwater wrote: I have just uploaded the archives for luatex 0.20.1. This Debian sid users will get 0.20.1 soon by normal update. Debian etch users can add deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Zhichu Chen
Hi, Wolfgang On Dec 11, 2007 12:05 AM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/10, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Hi Chen, can't you ue XeTeX or LuaTeX for your document instead of pdfTeX, it will be easier for you because you don't need tfm and map files and you need

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Dec 10, 2007 4:58 PM, Zhichu Chen wrote: And the second column is for the PS name of the font. I really don't know how to write it because it has spaces in it, and when I replaced it with another PS name that has no spaces or other special characters in it, say SimSun as a common

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Zhichu Chen
On Dec 11, 2007 12:37 AM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 10, 2007 4:58 PM, Zhichu Chen wrote: And the second column is for the PS name of the font. I really don't know how to write it because it has spaces in it, and when I replaced it with another PS name that has no

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
I don't know, but in this case, I don't want to embed fonts, I don't know how LuaTeX can do that LuaTeX knows how to not embed fonts if you ask it not to, but I'm not sure how this is handled on the ConTeXt level. but it runs really slow on my ancient PC, especially

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: I don't know, but in this case, I don't want to embed fonts, I don't know how LuaTeX can do that LuaTeX knows how to not embed fonts if you ask it not to, but I'm not sure how this is handled on the ConTeXt level. but it runs really slow

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arthur Reutenauer wrote: I don't know, but in this case, I don't want to embed fonts, I don't know how LuaTeX can do that LuaTeX knows how to not embed fonts if you ask it not to, but I'm not sure how this is handled on the ConTeXt level.

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Wolfgang On Dec 11, 2007 12:05 AM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/10, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Hi Chen, can't you ue XeTeX or LuaTeX for your document instead of pdfTeX, it will be easier for you

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Don't say this, font questions are never useless. Sure enough :-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Slow is no word for the speed with CJK, I have a document with Adobe Kozuka Minchi and Gothic and run takes up to 3 to 4 minutes. An example document (offlist) would be good ... ___ If

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 10, 2007 4:58 PM, Zhichu Chen wrote: And the second column is for the PS name of the font. I really don't know how to write it because it has spaces in it, and when I replaced it with another PS name that has no spaces or other

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Slow is no word for the speed with CJK, I have a document with Adobe Kozuka Minchi and Gothic and run takes up to 3 to 4 minutes. The same document needs with XeTeX about half a minute and using the same fonts in plain TeX took only a few seconds. This is really

[NTG-context] Project file structure

2007-12-10 Thread Jeff Smith
Hi all! I know that ConTeXt looks for files *higher*in the directory tree when it doesn't find them. But is there a way to tell ConTeXt to specifically look for files lower in the tree? One of my project - a dictionary - will involve thousands of component files, as the best way to manage its

Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] beta 0.20.1 released

2007-12-10 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 10 Dez 2007, Aditya Mahajan wrote: deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ This release of luatex for Debian ships an improved texdoc written in texlua by Frank Küster. Please report any strange things to

Re: [NTG-context] Project file structure

2007-12-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Jeff Smith wrote: Hi all! I know that ConTeXt looks for files *higher*in the directory tree when it doesn't find them. But is there a way to tell ConTeXt to specifically look for files lower in the tree? One of my project - a dictionary - will involve thousands of component files, as the

Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] beta 0.20.1 released

2007-12-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Norbert Preining wrote: On Mo, 10 Dez 2007, Aditya Mahajan wrote: deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ This release of luatex for Debian ships an improved texdoc written in texlua by

Re: [NTG-context] Project file structure

2007-12-10 Thread Jeff Smith
On Dec 10, 2007 5:38 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in mkiv we can consider such a feature because we no longer depend on kpse Hans That would be great. :-) I've been sticking with mkii+XeTeX but that would be enough for me to make the switch, whenever it's advisable (say, when it's