Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/18/2016 9:37 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On 18 February 2016 at 10:22, Hans Hagen wrote: this brings up the question: would users (here) start using real math unicode input if we had a monospace math font? On Mac (TextMate, but I assume other editors would behave the same) the system

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-18 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 18 February 2016 at 10:22, Hans Hagen wrote: > > this brings up the question: would users (here) start using real math > unicode input if we had a monospace math font? On Mac (TextMate, but I assume other editors would behave the same) the system probably does some character substitution, so

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-18 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2016-02-18, at 10:22, Hans Hagen wrote: > this brings up the question: would users (here) start using real math > unicode input if we had a monospace math font? FWIW, you can have Emacs automatically display ∫ in place of \int etc. in your file (and this is no real

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-18 Thread Meer, Hans van der
On 18 Feb 2016, at 10:16, Hans Hagen > wrote: also, DEK used a keyboard with some special characters (probably dating from those assembler like computer languages) which is why the plain tex format has: Could it have been a keyboard especially for the APL

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/18/2016 1:38 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 00:40:39 +0100 Pablo Rodriguez wrote: Excuse me, Alan, this is exclamation in Spanish (and only in Spanish). Bigre ! Of course, I know that. Just out of curiosity, why do you think he should have chosen that? I

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/18/2016 12:40 AM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: On 02/17/2016 11:18 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 20:08:31 +0100 Hans Hagen wrote: you're an american citizen who likes $x^2$ but to call if beautiful ... €x^2€ nor £x^2£ (in 8 bit encodings / local keyboards times) all look bad ...

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-17 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 00:40:39 +0100 Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > Excuse me, Alan, this is exclamation in Spanish (and only in Spanish). Bigre ! Of course, I know that. > Just out of curiosity, why do you think he should have chosen that? I was attempting to make some fun with this

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-17 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 02/17/2016 11:18 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: > On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 20:08:31 +0100 Hans Hagen wrote: > >> you're an american citizen who likes $x^2$ but to call if >> beautiful ... €x^2€ nor £x^2£ (in 8 bit encodings / local keyboards >> times) all look bad ... > > Hans, you forgot: ¥x^2¥, ₽x^2₽,

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-17 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 13:24:53 -0500 Aditya Mahajan wrote: > I am curious to know if there is ANYONE who types in a lot of math > and regularly uses \m{...} or \math{...}. I still use $$ and use > \math{..} or \mathematics{...} only when generating output from lua > code:

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-17 Thread Rogers, Michael K
I use $…$. And for copying text from one TeX to another (e.g. ConTeXt <—> PlainTex/Latex/Markdown/Jax), it would be a pain if I couldn't. Michael > On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Feb 2016, Alan BRASLAU wrote: > >> However, I can see

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-17 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016, Alan BRASLAU wrote: However, I can see situations where one might want to tighten spacing in order to fit a particular expression within a line or in a table, for example. Here, \math[options]{expression} is a reasonable syntax, yet I cannot foresee ever using the very

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-17 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 10:44:43 +0100 Hans Hagen wrote: > also, but don't tell alan, there is this: > > \m[i:tight]{} > > i:default, i:tight, i:half, i:fixed I spy... I would suggest that one would set (inline) math spacing and other options (like \mathscriptsmode) globally

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-17 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/17/2016 8:31 AM, Otared Kavian wrote: I agree totally with Alan in saying that the inline math signals $\cdots$ should NEVER be left out from ConTeXt, or even become deprecated. that was never the intention (as one can always run in asciimode) but what's being discussed here is more

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-16 Thread Otared Kavian
I agree totally with Alan in saying that the inline math signals $\cdots$ should NEVER be left out from ConTeXt, or even become deprecated. Indeed many people move mathematical texts from one file to another one, in order to be able to typeset or print it either with ConTeXt, or other

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-16 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 17:20:04 +0100 Hans Hagen wrote: > On 2/16/2016 4:59 PM, Marco Patzer wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 08:21:42 -0700 > > Alan BRASLAU wrote: > > > >> I do note that the VIM syntax highlighting routine is pretty poor > >> and has

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-16 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016, Marco Patzer wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 08:21:42 -0700 Alan BRASLAU wrote: I do note that the VIM syntax highlighting routine is pretty poor and has difficulties around $, which is a symbol that I like using (unpaired) quite a lot in MetaPost

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-16 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/16/2016 4:59 PM, Marco Patzer wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 08:21:42 -0700 Alan BRASLAU wrote: I do note that the VIM syntax highlighting routine is pretty poor and has difficulties around $, which is a symbol that I like using (unpaired) quite a lot in MetaPost

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-16 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/16/2016 4:21 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: What sort of needs for structure could \m address for inline math? Clearly, an equation to which one might want to have a reference math should appear rather as displayed math.\def\m#1{\startimath you being a mathematics-physics-chemistry mixed mode

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-16 Thread Marco Patzer
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 08:21:42 -0700 Alan BRASLAU wrote: > I do note that the VIM syntax highlighting routine is pretty poor and > has difficulties around $, which is a symbol that I like using > (unpaired) quite a lot in MetaPost (\startMPcode...\stopMPcode). The stock vim

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-16 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 09:54:25 +0100 Hans Hagen wrote: > On 2/16/2016 9:22 AM, Nicola wrote: > > I read in the wiki (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Math) that $…$ > > for inline math is deprecated in favor of \m{…} and more verbose > > variants. Is that really the case? If so, what

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-16 Thread Marco Patzer
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 09:22:23 +0100 Nicola wrote: > I read in the wiki (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Math) that $…$ > for inline math is deprecated in favor of \m{…} and more verbose > variants. Is that really the case? If so, what is the reason and > what are the

Re: [NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-16 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/16/2016 9:22 AM, Nicola wrote: I read in the wiki (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Math) that $…$ for inline math is deprecated in favor of \m{…} and more verbose variants. Is that really the case? If so, what is the reason and what are the differences? that page probably needs updating

[NTG-context] Deprecated $…$ for inline math?

2016-02-16 Thread Nicola
I read in the wiki (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Math) that $…$ for inline math is deprecated in favor of \m{…} and more verbose variants. Is that really the case? If so, what is the reason and what are the differences? Nicola