Re: [NTG-context] Issues using publications subsystem for non-bibliographic database

2018-12-08 Thread Alan Braslau
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 21:11:17 +0100 "Thomas A. Schmitz" wrote: > I find myself in > situations where I want a reference, but this list should not be > included in the document. Example: you distribute a bibliographical list > on your handout and want your slides to display the numeric

Re: [NTG-context] Issues using publications subsystem for non-bibliographic database

2018-12-08 Thread Rik Kabel
On 12/8/2018 14:50, Alan Braslau wrote: On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 12:43:34 -0500 Rik Kabel wrote: It is also quite useful in earlier stages of larger projects where it is important to document sources (for circulation copies) but one is not ready to tackle the design and generation of more formal

Re: [NTG-context] Issues using publications subsystem for non-bibliographic database

2018-12-08 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On 08.12.18 20:50, Alan Braslau wrote: In my incremental development, I place a bibliography at the end of a chapter, part, or even section - there is no need for this to be backmatter. Using modes, these then can remain or not be rendered as design advances. I've been following this thread

Re: [NTG-context] Issues using publications subsystem for non-bibliographic database

2018-12-08 Thread Alan Braslau
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 12:43:34 -0500 Rik Kabel wrote: > It is also quite > useful in earlier stages of larger projects where it is important to > document sources (for circulation copies) but one is not ready to tackle > the design and generation of more formal backmatter. In my incremental

Re: [NTG-context] Issues using publications subsystem for non-bibliographic database

2018-12-08 Thread Rik Kabel
On 12/8/2018 00:03, Alan Braslau wrote: As I wrote, "rendering" to footnotes as elements of a "list" can be done, and your cross-reference *is* the footnote index. We have not written setups that do this already as I have never needed this format myself, although it is rather common in certain

Re: [NTG-context] Issues using publications subsystem for non-bibliographic database

2018-12-07 Thread Alan Braslau
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 23:34:58 -0500 Rik Kabel wrote: > On 12/7/2018 22:51, Alan Braslau wrote: > > You can place references rendered as you need, not necessarily in > > one single bibliography list, but they must be rendered somewhere, > > otherwise numbering and cross-referencing is meaningless.

Re: [NTG-context] Issues using publications subsystem for non-bibliographic database

2018-12-07 Thread Rik Kabel
On 12/7/2018 22:51, Alan Braslau wrote: You can place references rendered as you need, not necessarily in one single bibliography list, but they must be rendered somewhere, otherwise numbering and cross-referencing is meaningless. In the case of footnote references, each footnote contains a

Re: [NTG-context] Issues using publications subsystem for non-bibliographic database

2018-12-07 Thread Alan Braslau
You can place references rendered as you need, not necessarily in one single bibliography list, but they must be rendered somewhere, otherwise numbering and cross-referencing is meaningless. In the case of footnote references, each footnote contains a rendering (not a citation) of a fragment of

Re: [NTG-context] Issues using publications subsystem for non-bibliographic database

2018-12-07 Thread Rik Kabel
On 12/7/2018 18:01, Alan Braslau wrote: On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 17:19:35 -0500 Rik Kabel wrote: As a followup, here is a close-to-minimal example which demonstrates the failure when \placebtxrendering is omitted. It is not a failure. The whole intent is to place an appropriate rendering that you

Re: [NTG-context] Issues using publications subsystem for non-bibliographic database

2018-12-07 Thread Alan Braslau
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 17:19:35 -0500 Rik Kabel wrote: > As a followup, here is a close-to-minimal example which demonstrates the > failure when \placebtxrendering is omitted. It is not a failure. The whole intent is to place an appropriate rendering that you can tailor to your specific needs.

Re: [NTG-context] Issues using publications subsystem for non-bibliographic database

2018-12-07 Thread Rik Kabel
List, As a followup, here is a close-to-minimal example which demonstrates the failure when \placebtxrendering is omitted. When run as given, the extract field content is not displayed. When the commented line is uncommented, the result includes the content. \startbuffer[quotedatabase]

[NTG-context] Issues using publications subsystem for non-bibliographic database

2018-12-06 Thread Rik Kabel
List, I am trying to use the publications subsystem to support a non-bibliographic database, as chapter 10 of mkiv-publications suggests one can. My example is a database of quotations. I have been partially successful, which is another way of saying there are some issues I have not been