Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex

2007-12-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all (esp. Taco ;-), here's a very fundamental question about the bib-module: my main bib file now has ~ 1,700 entries. When I tried to compile a file which includes bibliographic references in mkii, I got this error: ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash

Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex

2007-12-21 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Dec 21, 2007, at 1:47 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: you can increase the hash size in texmf.cnf ... if so, then also remake the format in mkiv we need less hash space if only because it got rid of encodings and regimes Indeed, increasing the hash_extra size and rebuilding the formats

[NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex

2007-12-21 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi all (esp. Taco ;-), here's a very fundamental question about the bib-module: my main bib file now has ~ 1,700 entries. When I tried to compile a file which includes bibliographic references in mkii, I got this error: ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=6]. \@@shortsectionnumber

Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex

2007-12-21 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: The same file compiles without errors in mkiv. So I'm curious: Is it possible that the bib file is just too large for mkii? Just to be complete: In general, the answer to that is yes, even for mkiv. Best wishes, Taco

Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex

2007-12-21 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Dec 21, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Just to be complete: In general, the answer to that is yes, even for mkiv. Best wishes, Taco Hmm, okay, thanks, Taco. Any rule of thumb for just how big is too big? Depends on your texmf.cnf. IIRC, I have

Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex

2007-12-21 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Dec 21, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Just to be complete: In general, the answer to that is yes, even for mkiv. Best wishes, Taco Hmm, okay, thanks, Taco. Any rule of thumb for just how big is too big? And what do people do in cases like this? One of the wonderful things

Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex

2007-12-21 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Dec 21, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Depends on your texmf.cnf. IIRC, I have twenty or so csnames per entry, and the baseline for mkii is a bit over 40.000 csnames, so you need about 40.000 + 20 * (numberofentries) And what do people do in cases like this? One of the

Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex

2007-12-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Ah, okay! Thanks a lot. So I will pit my ever larger and larger bib files against the ever more powerful computers that we will have in the future and let them fight it out! we can manage the bib data in lua and do all bibtex actions there, Hans