Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-12 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11-7-2010 7:39, luigi scarso wrote: 2010/7/11 Ivo Solnickýivo.solni...@gmail.com: Now (not addressed to Mojca), please don't be a smartarse and tell me (again) that this is all volunteer work and to send in patches, a new Device Independent file definition and implementation for Unicode.

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-11 Thread Vnpenguin
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 00:21, Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de wrote: 2010/7/10 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com: avoiding PDF for all costs makes sense or not. Expressed in other words: what usually happens when one sends PDF to PostScript printer? Does it print the document

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-11 Thread Michael Talbot-Wilson
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010, Martin Schr?der wrote: 2010/7/10 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com: avoiding PDF for all costs makes sense or not. Expressed in other words: what usually happens when one sends PDF to PostScript printer? Does it print the document almost-natively or not?

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-11 Thread Ivo Solnický
Now (not addressed to Mojca), please don't be a smartarse and tell me (again) that this is all volunteer work and to send in patches, a new Device Independent file definition and implementation for Unicode. I'm full of admiration for you guys with the giant IQs who have created ConTeXt in

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-11 Thread luigi scarso
2010/7/11 Ivo Solnický ivo.solni...@gmail.com: Now (not addressed to Mojca), please don't be a smartarse and tell me (again) that this is all volunteer work and to send in patches, a new Device Independent file definition and implementation for Unicode. I'm full of admiration for you guys

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-11 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2010-07-11 um 19:39 schrieb luigi scarso: Maybe LuaLaTeX should work for you. But even so there is a dvi-to-ps step to do, which is pratically the same of pdf-to-ps in context mkiv. I suggest to use plain PostScript; there are even layout frameworks* for that. You need just some PS

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-11 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:37:01PM +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 2010-07-11 um 19:39 schrieb luigi scarso: Maybe LuaLaTeX should work for you. But even so there is a dvi-to-ps step to do, which is pratically the same of pdf-to-ps in context mkiv. I suggest to use plain PostScript;

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-11 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2010-07-11 um 22:53 schrieb Khaled Hosny: SUSE had (have?) a graphical menu extension to GRUB boot loader written in PostScript. Don't ask me why I remembered this now, but I always found it one of most weird uses of PostSscript I've ever seen. NextStep's whole screen graphics was

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi, On 07/10/2010 07:46 AM, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: Running I think any browser on any Linux system, if I see a PDF file on the Web and click on print, and then print to a file, I automatically finish up with a .ps file. Which I can display with gv. The PDF format was all the time

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-10 Thread Peter Münster
On Sat, Jul 10 2010, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: I have a PostScript printer. I'd prefer not to have to run pdf2ps. Hello, Normally, the printing system (cups for example) will run pdf2ps for you, and you should be able to do something like lpr file.pdf without any problems. How can ps

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-10 Thread Martin Schröder
2010/7/10 Michael Talbot-Wilson m...@view.net.au: Running I think any browser on any Linux system, if I see a PDF file on the Web and click on print, and then print to a file, I automatically finish up with a .ps file.  Which I can display with gv. The PDF format was all the time redundant.

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 17:46, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: I have a PostScript printer.  I'd prefer not to have to run pdf2ps. Unrelated to the question of PS output of ConTeXt: I have a PostScript printer (at home and in the office) as well, but my general impression has always been as if

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: On Sat, 10 Jul 2010, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: Oh, yes. May have a look at MkII. But does it use LuaTeX? The possibility of easy macros in Lua rather than difficult macros in TeX would be one attraction of ConTeXt. Maybe Eplain LuaTeX

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-10 Thread Martin Schröder
2010/7/10 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com: avoiding PDF for all costs makes sense or not. Expressed in other words: what usually happens when one sends PDF to PostScript printer? Does it print the document almost-natively or not? Typically your viewer (e.g. Adobe Reader) or your

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-09 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Michael Talbot-Wilson m...@view.net.au wrote: I've just installed ConTeXt minimal and had a look at ConTeXt, The Manual.  I typed in the example document that starts at the bottom of page 13 (called it eg.tex) and ran context.  It produced the file eg.pdf and I

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-09 Thread Vedran Miletić
2010/7/9 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com: pdf and dvi are  the only backend . In mkiv (I suppose you are using mkiv because of  context ) the pdf backend is actually the only backend. Luigi has summarized it pretty much. Even though LuaTeX can actually produce DVI, I'm not sure if it can

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-09 Thread Michael Talbot-Wilson
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Vedran Mileti?~G wrote: 2010/7/9 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com: pdf and dvi are ??the only backend . In mkiv (I suppose you are using mkiv because of ??context ) the pdf backend is actually the only backend. Luigi has summarized it pretty much. Even though LuaTeX can

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-09 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Michael Talbot-Wilson m...@view.net.au wrote: Thanks for your reply.  Both.  But Luigi seems to say LuaTeX can NOT actually produce DVI.  Or is that just ConTeXt? LuaTex aims to become the next pdftex, and it already has a dvi output mode. ConText mkiv today is

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-09 Thread Michael Talbot-Wilson
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: Oh, yes. May have a look at MkII. But does it use LuaTeX? The possibility of easy macros in Lua rather than difficult macros in TeX would be one attraction of ConTeXt. Maybe Eplain LuaTeX is what I need. Let me correct that. Confused

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-09 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Michael Talbot-Wilson m...@view.net.au wrote: On Sat, 10 Jul 2010, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: Oh, yes.  May have a look at MkII.  But does it use LuaTeX?  The possibility of easy macros in Lua rather than difficult macros in TeX would be one attraction of

Re: [NTG-context] Example ConTeXt document: PS output

2010-07-09 Thread Michael Talbot-Wilson
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010, luigi scarso wrote: Let me correct that. ??Confused ravings. ??I was really looking for (1) font management making it easier to install new and unusual fonts without delving up to my armpits in tfm, pk, whatever, (2) something with Metapost more integrated, allowing easy