[NTG-context] Blank at beginning of page

2010-01-19 Thread Philipp Gesang
Hi, being new to ConTeXt I'd have loads of questions but I'd like to start with what puzzles me most: any \blank[] command that happens to be at the beginning of a page seems to be ignored. For instance in a document as follows \showframe \starttext \blank[5*big] Some text. \stoptext the

Re: [NTG-context] Blank at beginning of page

2010-01-19 Thread Boštjan Vesnicer
On 18.1.2010 13:40, Philipp Gesang wrote: \showframe \starttext \blank[5*big] Some text. \stoptext \dontleavehmode \blank[5*big] See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/A_Very_Simple_Cover_Page for explanation. Bostjan

Re: [NTG-context] negative kerning

2010-01-19 Thread Horacio Suarez
Thankyou very much for your answers. Wolfgang, I have the following error when I run that code: (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.texerror: ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-krn.lua:121: attempt to index local 'before' (a nil value) I´m using XP ConTeXt

Re: [NTG-context] Blank at beginning of page

2010-01-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 18.01.10 13:40, schrieb Philipp Gesang: Hi, being new to ConTeXt I'd have loads of questions but I'd like to start with what puzzles me most: any \blank[] command that happens to be at the beginning of a page seems to be ignored. For instance in a document as follows \showframe \starttext

Re: [NTG-context] negative kerning

2010-01-19 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hi, I tried the following snipped out of curiosity and it gives me the error (even with the latest beta) systems : begin file 1.tex at line 5 (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.tex) (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.texerror:

Re: [NTG-context] negative kerning

2010-01-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 19-1-2010 17:29, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hi, I tried the following snipped out of curiosity and it gives me the error (even with the latest beta) systems : begin file 1.tex at line 5 (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.tex)

[NTG-context] Font database does not report all fonts

2010-01-19 Thread Nicolas Girard
Hi all, and happy new year ! I've just (properly) installed a fresh ConTeXt Minimals on Linux and built the font database. Although my /usr/local/share/fonts/d directory contains Delicious-BoldItalic.otf Delicious-Bold.otf Delicious-Heavy.otf Delicious-Italic.otf Delicious-Roman.otf

Re: [NTG-context] Font database does not report all fonts

2010-01-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 19.01.10 18:35, schrieb Nicolas Girard: Hi all, and happy new year ! I've just (properly) installed a fresh ConTeXt Minimals on Linux and built the font database. Although my /usr/local/share/fonts/d directory contains Delicious-BoldItalic.otf Delicious-Bold.otf Delicious-Heavy.otf

Re: [NTG-context] location of /user/files?

2010-01-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 00:54, paul morgan queri...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you again Aditya and Khaled for getting ConTeXt working here. One more question for the list: Under MacTex or TexLive, not sure which one, on my 10.4.11 system, my setup and env* files were located in

Re: [NTG-context] location of /user/files?

2010-01-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 19.01.10 18:40, schrieb Mojca Miklavec: The texmf.cnf files now includes TEXMFHOME = $HOME/texmf but maybe we could add $HOME/Library/texmf to the list as well. Any objections to that? (I just need to figure out how to properly nest the braces.) I would prefer $HOME/Library/texmf. Wolfgang

[NTG-context] Questions regarding simplefonts

2010-01-19 Thread Nicolas Girard
Hi again, although simplefonts seems very promising and I put the highest hopes on it, the lack of proper documentation simply prevents me to use it, which is somewhat frustrating. Here are some of my unanswered questions about simplefonts ; I'm willing to update the wiki with any informations

Re: [NTG-context] location of /user/files?

2010-01-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 19-1-2010 18:40, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 00:54, paul morganqueri...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you again Aditya and Khaled for getting ConTeXt working here. One more question for the list: Under MacTex or TexLive, not sure which one, on my 10.4.11 system, my setup and env*

Re: [NTG-context] Questions regarding simplefonts

2010-01-19 Thread Nicolas Girard
2010/1/19 Nicolas Girard nicolas.gir...@nerim.net: Hi again, I forgot this one: 5) My log files contain this reassuring message: (/home/ngirard/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/simplefonts/t-simplefonts.tex loading : ConTeXt User Module / Simplefonts ) immediatly followed

Re: [NTG-context] location of /user/files?

2010-01-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 18:54, Hans Hagen wrote: On 19-1-2010 18:40, Mojca Miklavec wrote: The texmf.cnf files now includes      TEXMFHOME     = $HOME/texmf but maybe we could add $HOME/Library/texmf to the list as well. Any objections to that? (I just need to figure out how to properly nest

Re: [NTG-context] Questions regarding simplefonts

2010-01-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 19.01.10 18:56, schrieb Nicolas Girard: 4) What is the purpose of the 'mode' keyword ? it's the mode option from \definefontfeature, here is a explanation from Taco http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043782.html Wolfgang

[NTG-context] ConTeXt swallows text

2010-01-19 Thread Oliver Heins
Hi, under certain circumstances, ConTeXt swallows text. This happens with both MkII and MkIV and a fairly recent minimals distribution. | ConTeXt ver: 2009.11.24 10:13 MKII fmt: 2009.11.25 int: english/english | ConTeXt ver: 2009.11.24 10:13 MKIV fmt: 2009.11.25 int: english/english

Re: [NTG-context] numbered itemize

2010-01-19 Thread Willi Egger
Hi, I tried to extend the example with a general setup-instruction, however this creates an error: \setupitemgroup[itemize][each][n,fit,broad] [start=8,itemalign=flushright] \starttext \startitemize \item bla \item bli \item di \item bla \item di \item blu \stopitemize \stoptext ! Illegal

Re: [NTG-context] numbered itemize

2010-01-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 19-1-2010 19:38, Willi Egger wrote: Hi, I tried to extend the example with a general setup-instruction, however this creates an error: \setupitemgroup[itemize][each][n,fit,broad][start=8,itemalign=flushright] \starttext \startitemize \item bla \item bli \item di \item bla \item di \item blu

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Let me be a bit more nationalistic and exaggerate a bit for a moment (just in order to explain why I find the idea of using `` a bad one; do not take the text below too seriously or personally): On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 14:15, Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Monday 18 January 2010 13:50:25 Taco Hoekwater

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Mojca Miklavec wrote: This can be a bit disturbing for experienced TeX users. - The deciding moment when some of these ugly tricks have been thrown away was when we realized that if you do add those tricks, there is no way to print the grave accent. (Grave accent will be

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Tuesday 19 January 2010 20:31:22 Mojca Miklavec wrote: Let me be a bit more nationalistic and exaggerate a bit for a moment (just in order to explain why I find the idea of using `` a bad one; do not take the text below too seriously or personally): I think that the easiest would be for

Re: [NTG-context] Questions regarding simplefonts

2010-01-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 19.01.10 18:56, schrieb Nicolas Girard: Hi again, although simplefonts seems very promising and I put the highest hopes on it, the lack of proper documentation simply prevents me to use it, which is somewhat frustrating. I try to provide a proper documentation when I release the next version

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt swallows text

2010-01-19 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Oliver Heins o...@sopos.org wrote: Hi, under certain circumstances, ConTeXt swallows text.  This happens with both MkII and MkIV and a fairly recent minimals distribution. | ConTeXt  ver: 2009.11.24 10:13 MKII  fmt: 2009.11.25  int: english/english | ConTeXt

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 19.01.10 21:10, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: You probably are right to favor \quotation{}, \dots, etc. and to go unicode. But is it really necessary and a good idea to break with TeX culture? I guess so. What about $ $ (and $$ $$)? How about % (\%)? Not to mention $ and are no problem because

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 19.01.10 21:10, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: You probably are right to favor \quotation{}, \dots, etc. and to go unicode. But is it really necessary and a good idea to break with TeX culture? I guess so. What about $ $ (and $$ $$)? How about % (\%)?

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Tuesday 19 January 2010 20:31:22 Mojca Miklavec wrote: Let me be a bit more nationalistic and exaggerate a bit for a moment (just in order to explain why I find the idea of using `` a bad one; do not take the text below too seriously or personally):

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 19.01.10 21:26, schrieb Aditya Mahajan: % is problmeatic because you need a character to start a comment and there is AFAIK no way to get the same result from % with a macro \comment{something} or \startcomment ... \stopcomment what about \starttext text Auf% lage text \stoptext or

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 19.01.10 21:26, schrieb Aditya Mahajan: % is problmeatic because you need a character to start a comment and there is AFAIK no way to get the same result from % with a macro \comment{something} or \startcomment ... \stopcomment what about

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 19-1-2010 21:10, Alan BRASLAU wrote: and just as we expect fl to yield fl, we also learn many bad tricks more precisely: as tex turns fl into fl without distinction between languages we have come to expect that to be the case such as ``'' and ... i must admit that i've never used those

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 21:10, Alan BRASLAU wrote: I think that the easiest would be for everyone to use English :) That's my bit for Imperialism! But then there would be plenty of historians trying to reproduce the old languages, just as Idris does. So nothing would be gained :) :) :) As I

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt swallows text

2010-01-19 Thread Oliver Heins
Hi Luigi, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com writes: Why nx=6 Because of the layout of the booklet. The area should fit over two pages (= 6 columns). and width=1.95\textwidth ? I played around with the width to see if the problem still happens. For some reason, I stuck with

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, Jan 19 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: My own computers are US International. However, I often use other computers having different layouts, many of which I cannot change. The worst I find are the Macs with French keyboards, as when I use them, I always have to remember how to find \ and {}

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt swallows text

2010-01-19 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Oliver Heins o...@sopos.org wrote: Hi Luigi, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com writes: Why nx=6 Because of the layout of the booklet.  The area should fit over two pages (= 6 columns). ok You can find the relevant pages of the booklet at

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Mojca Miklavec wrote: The worst I find are the Macs with French keyboards, Let's be honest ... any French keyboard ... :) Don't forget macbook keyboards with dvorak mapping ;) I agree with that ... but there's a general problem with (unmaintaned) documentation in ConTeXt. There is the

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wednesday 20 January 2010 08:04:43 Taco Hoekwater wrote: The problem is that all the latex and plain tex books promote the use of `` and '' and people that already use TeX are unlikely to change their habits (and most will not read the context manual as thoroughly as they should). This

Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.

2010-01-19 Thread Peter Münster
On Wed, Jan 20 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: What I also find disturbing is that *some* of these conventions are retained, but not all. Since most people use fixed width fonts in their editors, it is difficult to distinguish between – (en-dash), — (em-dash) and - (hyphen-minus). So -- and --- are

Re: [NTG-context] Questions regarding simplefonts

2010-01-19 Thread Marius
Hello all, I add my questions regarding simplefonts to this thread too. How to enable em dash and en dash? It looks like I need to set tlig to yes, but with heading pasted below, the --- is not interpreted as em dash. \usemodule[simplefonts] \setmainfont[Times New