Re: [NTG-context] Re: struts in \quotation{..}

2004-09-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Hi,
[...]
 

but ... what is wrong with that? 
   

The question is, do the struts affect the typesetting (kerning)?
 

no, that is, spacing between  and the rest is a matter of additional kerns anyway
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Metapost animation

2004-09-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Michal Kvasnicka wrote:
Hm. Do you quote the Metafun manual, section 13.6? I know this 
technique. But my question was different: Is it possible to `animate' 
the fieldstack? In other words, to make it change one figure to 
another automatically, without clicking anywhere, changing one frame 
to another each 1/n second to simulate a smoth motion like in a cinema?
sure, you can let a javascript toggle the states; however, small steps (1 sec) are not to be trusted in precission, since they also depend on the machine; they also kind of block other actions since there is no concept of animation in pdf (apart from svg, which is poorly implemented/integrated).   

Another method is demonstrated in the 'dante XV' presentation (runs slightly faster on a mac than on windows); 

Hans 

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[NTG-context] Setting up a typeface

2004-09-15 Thread Ulrich Dirr
Hi,

I've now studied the docs for a while and experimenting with a bunch of
settings but I'm still failing setting up typefaces correctly in ConTeXt.
Probably the font mechanism in ConTeXt is much more elaborate than with
LaTeX's NFSS. But I'm too stupid to understand it :-( Could someone please
help me?

My test case -- and it will be the sans serif part of my wish list --
should setup the Linotype HelveticaNeue as body font. The main part is not
very difficult to achieve.

The test file:
-
\setupoutput [pdftex]
\input pdftexconfig
\usetypescriptfile [type-NeueHelvetica]
\usetypescript[HelveticaNeue][ec]
\setupbodyfont[HelveticaNeueLT,ss,10pt]
\starttext
\showbodyfontenvironment[HelveticaNeueLT]
\showbodyfont[HelveticaNeueLT]
\stoptext
-

type-NeueHelvetica.tex:
-
\starttypescript [sans] [HelveticaNeue] [name]
\definefontsynonym [Sans] [HelveticaNeueLT-Roman]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic]   [HelveticaNeueLT-Italic]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold] [HelveticaNeueLT-Bold]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic]   [HelveticaNeueLT-BoldItalic]   
[...]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [HelveticaNeue] [ec]
\definefontsynonym [HelveticaNeueLT-Roman]  [lhnr8t]  [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [HelveticaNeueLT-Italic] [lhnri8t] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [HelveticaNeueLT-Bold]   [lhnb8t]  [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [HelveticaNeueLT-BoldItalic] [lhnbi8t] [encoding=ec]
[...]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [HelveticaNeue][ec]
\usetypescript [sans] [HelveticaNeue] [name]
\usetypescript [sans] [HelveticaNeue] [size]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [HelveticaNeue] [ec]
\definetypeface [HelveticaNeueLT] [ss] [sans] [HelveticaNeue] [default]
[encoding=ec]
\stoptypescript
-

The next step should define destinct sizes for use in a project. And here
I'm always failing.

I've tried, e.g.,
\definebodyfontenvironment
  [9bp]
  [   text=9bp,
script=7bp,
  scriptscript=5bp,
 x=7bp,
xx=5bp,
   big=11bp,
 small=7bp,
  interlinespace=11bp]
or, e.g.,
\starttypescript [sans] [HelveticaNeue] [size]
\definebodyfont [10bp] [ss]
  [tf=Sans at 10bp,
   bf=SansBold,
   it=SansItalic,
   sl=SansItalic,
   bi=SansBoldItalic,
   bs=SansBoldItalic]
\stoptypescript

in all sizes I want, with and without definitions of \definebodyfont, but
never got what I want. 

How can I setup my typeface (regular, bold, etc.) to use the specific sizes
5,6,7,8,9.5,10,12,14,18,24,28 *bp*??? (And with correct dependencies)

I'm definitely not understanding how the general scheme works. And all
examples I've found always use the standard font sizes and the standard
measurement units.

Please help me!

Best regards,
Ulrich Dirr

P.S. are there predefined shortcuts for heavy, light, etc. variants?

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Re: [NTG-context] marks in columns

2004-09-15 Thread Plamen Tanovski
 \setupfootertexts[{\getmarking[section][first] \getmarking[section][last]}]
 \starttext
 \startcolumns[n=2]
 \section{first}
 
 \column
 
 \section{last}
 \stopcolumns
 \stoptext

For the record. Adding \page seams to work:

\setupfootertexts[{\getmarking[section][first] \getmarking[section][last]}]
\starttext
\startcolumns[n=2]   
\section{first}

\column

\section{last}
\page
\stopcolumns
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] \dh in ConTeXt

2004-09-15 Thread Charles Doherty
On 14 Sep 2004, at 12:17, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Howth  {\em H\k{o}f\eth i} / {\em H\k{o}f\eth a},
(LaTeX 'dh' = [eE]th, 'th'= [tT]horn, 'ng' = [eE]ng)
Greetings, Taco
Dear Taco,
Thank you very much for your reply. I get ? when I use the above. But I 
just chanced mathmode
{\em H\k{o}f$\eth$i} / {\em H\k{o}f$\eth$a}, and I get inline: pastedGraphic1.tiff
This is not quite the character shown in the Palatino examples in 
Hans's Fonts in ConTeXt pp 17 ff. number 240 in the bottom left of the 
font table but I can get by with that.

If you think of another way I would be grateful.
Thanks again,
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Re: [NTG-context] \dh in ConTeXt

2004-09-15 Thread Mari Voipio
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Charles Doherty wrote:
 On 14 Sep 2004, at 12:17, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

   Howth  {\em H\k{o}f\eth i} / {\em H\k{o}f\eth a},
 
  (LaTeX 'dh' = [eE]th, 'th'= [tT]horn, 'ng' = [eE]ng)

 Thank you very much for your reply. I get ? when I use the above.

I get ? if I try with the very default fonts (known to me as a problem
with diacritis, standard cmr font just can't do it):


---
\setupoutput[pdftex]

\starttext

Howth  {\em H\k{o}f\eth i} / {\em H\k{o}f\eth a}

\stoptext

---
[Note: I'm using Windows, so the output has been directed straight to pdf,
less hassle for the clueless than dvi etc.]


However, if I use the standard pos fonts as I always do be able to write
among others Finnish, it works:

---
\setupoutput[pdftex]

\setupbodyfont[pos]

\starttext

Howth  {\em H\k{o}f\eth i} / {\em H\k{o}f\eth a}

\stoptext



If you test the above in live.contextgarden.net or if the compilation
process hangs on your computer, add a magic line:

---
\setupoutput[pdftex]

\usetypescript[adobekb] [\defaultencoding] %this is the magic!

\setupbodyfont[pos]

\starttext

Howth  {\em H\k{o}f\eth i} / {\em H\k{o}f\eth a}

\stoptext


(The above works perfectly at live.contextgarden.net, which may help)


Not all fonts have diacritics, so it won't always work, but with the
standard postscript fonts you should be fine.

BTW, thank you for the tip, both of you - if I ever have to write Old
Norse again, I know which program I'll use for it...


Mari
(originally majoring in Scandinavian languages,
 now just a nerd)
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[NTG-context] marks in columnsets (was Re: marks in columns)

2004-09-15 Thread Plamen Tanovski
 \setupfootertexts[{\getmarking[section][first] \getmarking[section][last]}]
 \starttext
 \startcolumns[n=2]   
 \section{first}
 
 \column
 
 \section{last}
 \page
 \stopcolumns
 \stoptext

OK, but how to get it work with columnsets? The following code shows
the missing first mark:

\setupfootertexts[{\getmarking[section][all]}]
\definecolumnset[bobo][n=2]
\starttext
\startcolumnset[bobo]
\section{first}

\section{second}
\page

\section{third}

\column

\section{fourth}
\page

\stopcolumnset
\stoptext

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[NTG-context] Re: CMAP and IL2 encoding

2004-09-15 Thread Vit Zyka
Some auto-answers ;-)
Add 1: I thing the answer is waiting only for Hans.
Add 2: il2 name is all right for encoding of csr fonts in ConTeXt.
   I was confused of what is called il2. il2 in TeX world is
   encoding of CS fonts (csr). Do not confuse with ISO-8859-2 so
   called Latin 2.
   Never mind, in enco-il2.tex are still missing some
   not-so-important chars.
Add 3: Definition of pdfr-il2.tex (CMAP) is for ISO-8859-2 fonts so it
   is not suited for csr font (I believe it was the first [and
   perhaps last also] intention).
Add 4: Decision for ConTeXt developers(?) According to the decision I
   can prepare the CMAP files for il2, xl2, cp1250, and ISO-8859-2
   encodings.
Vit Zyka
I played with ToUnicode resource (for correct copypaste and search 
opperation in PDF). I noticed a package cmap.sty was done by Mr. 
Volovich for LaTeX a year ago; I did one (cmap.tex) for plain TeX 
yesterday and started to be interested in the situation in ConTeXt. No 
wonder you did it 4 years ago. But I met some minor problems:

1) if you run example file
\useencoding[pfr]
\setupbodyfont[csr]
\starttext
  test \`z \'z \bf test \sl test \bs quite funny \`z \page
  test \`z \'z \bf test \sl test \bs quite funny \`z \page
\stoptext
  you obtain /ToUnicode resource ONLY for first roman variant. It is due
  to a condition in the file enco-pfr.tex
\def\doincludepdffontresource
 {\ifcsname\s!ucmap\fontfile\endcsname\else
\dodoincludepdffontresource
  \fi}
  The condition is correct but the \fontfile is not changed when \bf,
  \it, etc. is used (it is still cscsc10 (?)).
  Might you look at a proper \fontfile definition?
2) Technical note: in ConTeXt the il2 encoding is defined. But the
   definition is not ISO-8859-2 (Latin 2, IL2) encoding sharp. The
   definition is CS font encoding (IL2cs or 8z). It is derived from il2
   but it differ in 49 positions (!). For
   usage in Czech or Slovac languages it causes no problem but what if
   somebody will want to use a proper il2 font?
   If you want I can prepare
   both IL2 and (a bit richer) il2cs (8z?) enco-??.tex files.
3) File pdfr-il2.tex with CMAP definition is proper IL2 mapping. So now
   we combine IL2 CMAP mapping with IL2cs ConTeXt encoding. It is
   nosence. Suggested solution: use csr fonts with new IL2cs encoding
   and create new pdfr-il2cs.tex.
4) Definitions of CMAP encodings are stored in pdfr-??.tex files - it
   means in TeX format. But the common way is to be a stand-alone PS
   file, see attachement. Now I know about 5 files from Mr. Volovich
   (Cork, 3 russian, vietnamese) and two from me (IL2, IL2cs). Such file
   can be easily included by \pdfobj stream file {} mechanism.
   Question: I can prepare pdfr-il2cs.tex but is it not better to
   use more standard stand-alone files in ConTeXt?
Vit Zyka
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[NTG-context] space in \inmargin

2004-09-15 Thread Martin Kolarík
Hi all,

there is probably somewhere a space in some macro called inside \inmargin.
See example:

\starttext

\setbox0\hbox{\inmargin{XX}}

\showbox0

A\box0 B

\stoptext

and a part of log with \showbox0:

\hbox(10.41603+4.05064)x3.91663
.\glue 3.91663 plus 1.95831 minus 1.30554
.\hbox(10.41603+4.05064)x0.0
...

The first glue inside hbox seems to be product of \inmargin. Does somebody
know where the space is? I did not dig into sources yet,

have a nice day and thanks,

Martin

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RE: [NTG-context] Floats and captions difficulties

2004-09-15 Thread Martin Kolarík
Hi Hans,

did you receive the mails about captions and tui/tuo UTF expansions and
reusing it in \about? I sent them on Sunday and as they are important to me
I hava to ask again :-),

thank you and have a nice day,

Martin


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