Re: [NTG-context] processing of setvariables/getvariables again
Hi Thomas,
It looks like you are looking for (inside the module):
\def\initializegreek
{\switchtobodyfont[My\getvariable{Greek}{font}]}
\appendtoks \initialize \to \everystarttext
There is no other way to get arguments to/from the module.
For Hans: it would be really cool if there was a way to
do something like this:
\usemodule[greek][font=GreekGentium,scale=0.9]
with (in this example) the \usemodule command defining the
variables
\moduleoptionfont
\moduleoptionscale
etc.
Greetings, Taco
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
Hi all,
excuse me for being so pig-headed, but I'm running into the same
problem I had two weeks ago. Peter Rolf was incredibly helpful, but I
couldnt get things working. It is more a problem of architecture and
general choices, IMHO, than of actual code. I tried every single part
of what I want to achieve, and it works. The difficulty lies in getting
the variables to work...
Basic problem: I want to refine my greek module. It provides a command
\setupgreek[font=,scale=]
which sets variables fonts and scale in the namespace Greek. The
command is defined in the module, so in order to use it, the module has
to be read. BUT: I want to use the result [i.e. \getvariable
{Greek}{font} and \getvariable{Greek}{scale}] within the module itself.
Is this possible?
Details: I want to organize the fonts in a typescript to be more
flexible. So the module first defines the setupcommand:
\def\setupgreek{\setvariables[Greek]}
then it calls the typescript
\usetypescriptfile[type-tasgreek]
where all the Greek fonts are defined in this form:
\starttypescript [serif] [GreekGentium] [agr]
\definefontsynonym [Greekgentium-Roman] [genagr-GentiumAlt]
[encoding=agr]
\definefontsynonym [Greekgentium-Italic][genagr-GentiumAItI]
[encoding=agr]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [serif] [GreekGentium] [name]
\usetypescript[serif][fallback]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [Greekgentium-Roman]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Greekgentium-Italic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [Serif]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Serif]
\stoptypescript
So the module calls the typescriptfile (or would it be more elegant to
include these typescripts in the module itself?)
I then have the definition for the command \localgreek which contains,
among other things, a call of the Greek font. I had been planning to
implement it in this form:
\definetypeface [My\getvariable{Greek}{font}] [rm] [serif]
[\getvariable{Greek}{font}] [default] [rscale = \getvariable{Greek}
{font},encoding=agr]
and then, in the setups for \localgreek,
\switchtobodyfont[My\getvariable{Greek}{font}]
And that's where I'm banging my head against the wall: the module would
be used like this
\usemodule[t-greek]
\setupgreek[font=GreekGentium,scale=0.9]
Which means: the entire module will be read BEFORE the \setupgreek
command. But I would need the values of the setupgreek command WITHIN
the module. Is that possible at all? Would I have to call a third file
where the values are then processed? I tried to look into the source
how \setup commands work, but I do get the impression that collecting
the values and processing them is done in different files. Is this
necessary? And how could I implement it in one module?
Sorry if this sounds confusing, but I'm pretty confused, and hoping for
enlightenment from the wizzards.
All best
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] processing of setvariables/getvariables again
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hi Thomas,
It looks like you are looking for (inside the module):
\def\initializegreek
{\switchtobodyfont[My\getvariable{Greek}{font}]}
\appendtoks \initialize \to \everystarttext
Sorry, of course this should read:
\appendtoks \initializegreek \to \everystarttext
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] processing of setvariables/getvariables again
Hi Taco,
thanks for your reply!! I have to catch a train now, but I'll try
your suggestion tonight when I'm back. And yes, having the
modulesomething variables would be great.
What does \appendtoks do?
Thanks, and all best
Thomas
On Oct 21, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hi Thomas,
It looks like you are looking for (inside the module):
\def\initializegreek
{\switchtobodyfont[My\getvariable{Greek}{font}]}
\appendtoks \initialize \to \everystarttext
There is no other way to get arguments to/from the module.
For Hans: it would be really cool if there was a way to
do something like this:
\usemodule[greek][font=GreekGentium,scale=0.9]
with (in this example) the \usemodule command defining the
variables
\moduleoptionfont
\moduleoptionscale
etc.
Greetings, Taco
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
Hi all,
excuse me for being so pig-headed, but I'm running into the same
problem I had two weeks ago. Peter Rolf was incredibly helpful,
but I couldnt get things working. It is more a problem of
architecture and general choices, IMHO, than of actual code. I
tried every single part of what I want to achieve, and it works.
The difficulty lies in getting the variables to work...
Basic problem: I want to refine my greek module. It provides a
command
\setupgreek[font=,scale=]
which sets variables fonts and scale in the namespace Greek. The
command is defined in the module, so in order to use it, the
module has to be read. BUT: I want to use the result [i.e.
\getvariable {Greek}{font} and \getvariable{Greek}{scale}] within
the module itself. Is this possible?
Details: I want to organize the fonts in a typescript to be more
flexible. So the module first defines the setupcommand:
\def\setupgreek{\setvariables[Greek]}
then it calls the typescript
\usetypescriptfile[type-tasgreek]
where all the Greek fonts are defined in this form:
\starttypescript [serif] [GreekGentium] [agr]
\definefontsynonym [Greekgentium-Roman] [genagr-GentiumAlt]
[encoding=agr]
\definefontsynonym [Greekgentium-Italic][genagr-GentiumAItI]
[encoding=agr]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [serif] [GreekGentium] [name]
\usetypescript[serif][fallback]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [Greekgentium-Roman]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Greekgentium-Italic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [Serif]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Serif]
\stoptypescript
So the module calls the typescriptfile (or would it be more
elegant to include these typescripts in the module itself?)
I then have the definition for the command \localgreek which
contains, among other things, a call of the Greek font. I had
been planning to implement it in this form:
\definetypeface [My\getvariable{Greek}{font}] [rm] [serif]
[\getvariable{Greek}{font}] [default] [rscale = \getvariable
{Greek} {font},encoding=agr]
and then, in the setups for \localgreek,
\switchtobodyfont[My\getvariable{Greek}{font}]
And that's where I'm banging my head against the wall: the module
would be used like this
\usemodule[t-greek]
\setupgreek[font=GreekGentium,scale=0.9]
Which means: the entire module will be read BEFORE the
\setupgreek command. But I would need the values of the
setupgreek command WITHIN the module. Is that possible at all?
Would I have to call a third file where the values are then
processed? I tried to look into the source how \setup commands
work, but I do get the impression that collecting the values and
processing them is done in different files. Is this necessary?
And how could I implement it in one module?
Sorry if this sounds confusing, but I'm pretty confused, and
hoping for enlightenment from the wizzards.
All best
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] processing of setvariables/getvariables again
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi Taco, thanks for your reply!! I have to catch a train now, but I'll try your suggestion tonight when I'm back. And yes, having the modulesomething variables would be great. What does \appendtoks do? It appends stuff to token registers (like \everystarttext) Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: Antwort: Re: [NTG-context] distance with \godown
Hi Jessica, I think this has to do with interaction. In my opinion it is important that each line is starting with \gotopage and not sometimes with \framed. My be that your MPgraphic kasten should be working with \overlaywidth and \overlayheight in order to prevent problems discussed in the metafun manual. Have a good weekend Willi Jessica Holle wrote: Yes this works. Thx, But I've testet it with godown=0pt When I say this is to much distance between the kastens and comment \godown=0pt out there is the same strange thing. When I comment it on all my pages out there is a bigger distance between the first and second kasten. Why? Why only on this point? Where does it comes from? How can I disable this? Hope you have an answer to this :-) thx Jessica ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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Re: Antwort: Re: [NTG-context] distance with \godown
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[NTG-context] blank line
Hi all, I like to get blank lines (or halve lines) between mij paragraphs. I seem to misuntherstand something compleetly, because I can't get it working. Can anyone point me out?? Boris _ Een audiogesprek? Pak Messenger, niet de telefoon http://www1.imagine-msn.com/Messenger/Video.aspx ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] blank line
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[NTG-context] long quotation problem
I have been adapting some of my old Plain TeX macros to ConTeXt,
using hints and suggestions from the ConTeXt wiki. What I have thus
far works exactly as desired in the body text, but fails in the
footnotes. I have appended some encoded text that shows the problem.
Note the poor line-spacing and (unwanted) indentation in the first
line of the quotation in the footnote: this quotation should look the
same as the one in the body text.
I realize that I could fix this simply by inserting a \noindent in
the footnote, for instance. But I am trying to reduce the amount of
thinking an coder has to do, and so would really like to define the
startextract..\stopextract environment more effectively.
Any pointers or suggestions for fixing this will be gratefully received.
Cheers, Alan
% Paragraph setup
\indenting[big,yes]
\setupwhitespace[medium]
\setupparagraphs[tolerance=verystrict]
%Footnote setup
\setupfootnotes[conversion=numbers,
way=bytext,location=page,rule=on,bodyfont=10.1pt,style=normal]
\setupfootnotes[indenting=yes]
\setupfootnotes[interaction=yes]
\setupnotedefinition[footnote][indenting={big,yes}]
% Extract setup
\definestartstop[extract][
before={\godown[0.10pc]
\indenting[next]
\setupnarrower[left=1.5pc,right=1.5pc]
\startnarrower[left,right]},
after={\stopnarrower
\godown[0.25pc]
\indenting[yes]}]
\starttext
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Morbi
commodo, ipsum sed pharetra gravida, orci magna rhoncus neque, id
pulvinar odio lorem non turpis. Nullam sit amet enim. Suspendisse id
velit vitae ligula volutpat condimentum. Aliquam erat volutpat. Sed
quis velit.
\startextract
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Morbi
commodo, ipsum sed pharetra gravida, orci magna rhoncus neque, id
pulvinar odio lorem non turpis.
Nullam sit amet enim. Suspendisse id velit vitae ligula volutpat
condimentum. Aliquam erat volutpat. Sed quis velit. Nulla facilisi.
Nulla libero. Vivamus pharetra posuere sapien.
\stopextract
\noindent Nam consectetuer. Sed aliquam, nunc eget euismod
ullamcorper, lectus nunc ullamcorper orci, fermentum bibendum enim
nibh eget ipsum. Donec porttitor ligula eu dolor. Maecenas vitae
nulla consequat libero cursus venenatis. Nam magna enim, accumsan eu,
blandit sed, blandit a, eros.%
\footnote{Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit.
Morbi commodo, ipsum sed pharetra gravida, orci magna rhoncus neque,
id pulvinar odio lorem non turpis. Nullam sit amet enim.%
\startextract
Suspendisse id velit vitae ligula volutpat condimentum. Aliquam erat
volutpat. Sed quis velit. Nulla facilisi. Nulla libero. Vivamus
pharetra posuere sapien.
Nam consectetuer. Sed aliquam, nunc eget euismod ullamcorper, lectus
nunc ullamcorper orci, fermentum bibendum enim nibh eget ipsum. Donec
porttitor ligula eu dolor.
\stopextract
\noindent Maecenas vitae nulla consequat libero cursus venenatis. Nam
magna enim, accumsan eu, blandit sed, blandit a, eros.}\ %
Aliquam erat volutpat. Sed quis velit. Nulla facilisi. Nulla libero.
Vivamus pharetra posuere sapien. Nam consectetuer. Sed aliquam, nunc
eget euismod ullamcorper, lectus nunc ullamcorper orci, fermentum
bibendum enim nibh eget ipsum. Donec porttitor ligula eu dolor.
Maecenas vitae nulla consequat libero cursus venenatis. Nam magna
enim, accumsan eu, blandit sed, blandit a, eros.
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] long quotation problem
Hi Alan,
please, *no* more latin examples. Since school I have an allergy against
it ;)
Alan Bowen wrote:
I have been adapting some of my old Plain TeX macros to ConTeXt, using
hints and suggestions from the ConTeXt wiki. What I have thus far works
exactly as desired in the body text, but fails in the footnotes. I have
appended some encoded text that shows the problem. Note the poor
line-spacing and (unwanted) indentation in the first line of the
quotation in the footnote: this quotation should look the same as the
one in the body text.
I realize that I could fix this simply by inserting a \noindent in the
footnote, for instance. But I am trying to reduce the amount of
thinking an coder has to do, and so would really like to define the
startextract..\stopextract environment more effectively.
Any pointers or suggestions for fixing this will be gratefully received.
Cheers, Alan
% Paragraph setup
\indenting[big,yes]
\setupwhitespace[medium]
\setupparagraphs[tolerance=verystrict]
%Footnote setup
\setupfootnotes[conversion=numbers,
way=bytext,location=page,rule=on,bodyfont=10.1pt,style=normal]
\setupfootnotes[indenting=yes]
\setupfootnotes[interaction=yes]
\setupnotedefinition[footnote][indenting={big,yes}]
% Extract setup
\definestartstop[extract][
before={\godown[0.10pc]
\blank[0.25pc,force] % 0.10pc is not enough
\indenting[next]
% delete this and insert a \noindent at the end
\setupnarrower[left=1.5pc,right=1.5pc]
\startnarrower[left,right]
\noindent},
after={\stopnarrower
\godown[0.25pc]
\blank[0.25pc,force]
\indenting[yes]}]
\noindent (and a global \indenting[yes])
You can remove the \noindent from your main text now.
Don't know, if this is exactly what you want, but it look nice.
Greetings,
Peter
\starttext
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Morbi
commodo, ipsum sed pharetra gravida, orci magna rhoncus neque, id
pulvinar odio lorem non turpis. Nullam sit amet enim. Suspendisse id
velit vitae ligula volutpat condimentum. Aliquam erat volutpat. Sed
quis velit.
\startextract
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Morbi
commodo, ipsum sed pharetra gravida, orci magna rhoncus neque, id
pulvinar odio lorem non turpis.
Nullam sit amet enim. Suspendisse id velit vitae ligula volutpat
condimentum. Aliquam erat volutpat. Sed quis velit. Nulla facilisi.
Nulla libero. Vivamus pharetra posuere sapien.
\stopextract
\noindent Nam consectetuer. Sed aliquam, nunc eget euismod ullamcorper,
lectus nunc ullamcorper orci, fermentum bibendum enim nibh eget ipsum.
Donec porttitor ligula eu dolor. Maecenas vitae nulla consequat libero
cursus venenatis. Nam magna enim, accumsan eu, blandit sed, blandit a,
eros.%
\footnote{Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit.
Morbi commodo, ipsum sed pharetra gravida, orci magna rhoncus neque, id
pulvinar odio lorem non turpis. Nullam sit amet enim.%
\startextract
Suspendisse id velit vitae ligula volutpat condimentum. Aliquam erat
volutpat. Sed quis velit. Nulla facilisi. Nulla libero. Vivamus
pharetra posuere sapien.
Nam consectetuer. Sed aliquam, nunc eget euismod ullamcorper, lectus
nunc ullamcorper orci, fermentum bibendum enim nibh eget ipsum. Donec
porttitor ligula eu dolor.
\stopextract
\noindent Maecenas vitae nulla consequat libero cursus venenatis. Nam
magna enim, accumsan eu, blandit sed, blandit a, eros.}\ %
Aliquam erat volutpat. Sed quis velit. Nulla facilisi. Nulla libero.
Vivamus pharetra posuere sapien. Nam consectetuer. Sed aliquam, nunc
eget euismod ullamcorper, lectus nunc ullamcorper orci, fermentum
bibendum enim nibh eget ipsum. Donec porttitor ligula eu dolor.
Maecenas vitae nulla consequat libero cursus venenatis. Nam magna enim,
accumsan eu, blandit sed, blandit a, eros.
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] long quotation problem
Hi Alan,
I tried your code. I made the extract to be typeset in red.- Indeed a
poor spacing.
I withdrew the \godown[0.10pc]. The result looked fine to me. Then I
replaced the \godown by \blank[halfline], the result was again o.k.
Finally the \godown[0.10pc] was replaced with \godown[12pt] and the
result looks o.k. to me. - So may be that there is a problem with your
unit pc.
Willi
Alan Bowen wrote:
I have been adapting some of my old Plain TeX macros to ConTeXt,
using hints and suggestions from the ConTeXt wiki. What I have thus
far works exactly as desired in the body text, but fails in the
footnotes. I have appended some encoded text that shows the problem.
Note the poor line-spacing and (unwanted) indentation in the first
line of the quotation in the footnote: this quotation should look the
same as the one in the body text.
I realize that I could fix this simply by inserting a \noindent in
the footnote, for instance. But I am trying to reduce the amount of
thinking an coder has to do, and so would really like to define the
startextract..\stopextract environment more effectively.
Any pointers or suggestions for fixing this will be gratefully received.
Cheers, Alan
% Paragraph setup
\indenting[big,yes]
\setupwhitespace[medium]
\setupparagraphs[tolerance=verystrict]
%Footnote setup
\setupfootnotes[conversion=numbers,
way=bytext,location=page,rule=on,bodyfont=10.1pt,style=normal]
\setupfootnotes[indenting=yes]
\setupfootnotes[interaction=yes]
\setupnotedefinition[footnote][indenting={big,yes}]
% Extract setup
\definestartstop[extract][
before={\godown[0.10pc]
\indenting[next]
\setupnarrower[left=1.5pc,right=1.5pc]
\startnarrower[left,right]},
after={\stopnarrower
\godown[0.25pc]
\indenting[yes]}]
\starttext
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Morbi
commodo, ipsum sed pharetra gravida, orci magna rhoncus neque, id
pulvinar odio lorem non turpis. Nullam sit amet enim. Suspendisse id
velit vitae ligula volutpat condimentum. Aliquam erat volutpat. Sed
quis velit.
\startextract
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Morbi
commodo, ipsum sed pharetra gravida, orci magna rhoncus neque, id
pulvinar odio lorem non turpis.
Nullam sit amet enim. Suspendisse id velit vitae ligula volutpat
condimentum. Aliquam erat volutpat. Sed quis velit. Nulla facilisi.
Nulla libero. Vivamus pharetra posuere sapien.
\stopextract
\noindent Nam consectetuer. Sed aliquam, nunc eget euismod
ullamcorper, lectus nunc ullamcorper orci, fermentum bibendum enim
nibh eget ipsum. Donec porttitor ligula eu dolor. Maecenas vitae
nulla consequat libero cursus venenatis. Nam magna enim, accumsan eu,
blandit sed, blandit a, eros.%
\footnote{Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit.
Morbi commodo, ipsum sed pharetra gravida, orci magna rhoncus neque,
id pulvinar odio lorem non turpis. Nullam sit amet enim.%
\startextract
Suspendisse id velit vitae ligula volutpat condimentum. Aliquam erat
volutpat. Sed quis velit. Nulla facilisi. Nulla libero. Vivamus
pharetra posuere sapien.
Nam consectetuer. Sed aliquam, nunc eget euismod ullamcorper, lectus
nunc ullamcorper orci, fermentum bibendum enim nibh eget ipsum. Donec
porttitor ligula eu dolor.
\stopextract
\noindent Maecenas vitae nulla consequat libero cursus venenatis. Nam
magna enim, accumsan eu, blandit sed, blandit a, eros.}\ %
Aliquam erat volutpat. Sed quis velit. Nulla facilisi. Nulla libero.
Vivamus pharetra posuere sapien. Nam consectetuer. Sed aliquam, nunc
eget euismod ullamcorper, lectus nunc ullamcorper orci, fermentum
bibendum enim nibh eget ipsum. Donec porttitor ligula eu dolor.
Maecenas vitae nulla consequat libero cursus venenatis. Nam magna
enim, accumsan eu, blandit sed, blandit a, eros.
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] long quotation problem
Alan Bowen wrote: I have been adapting some of my old Plain TeX macros to ConTeXt, using hints and suggestions from the ConTeXt wiki. What I have thus far works exactly as desired in the body text, but fails in the footnotes. I have appended some encoded text that shows the problem. Note the poor line-spacing and (unwanted) indentation in the first line of the quotation in the footnote: this quotation should look the same as the one in the body text. I realize that I could fix this simply by inserting a \noindent in the footnote, for instance. But I am trying to reduce the amount of thinking an coder has to do, and so would really like to define the startextract..\stopextract environment more effectively. don't use \godown, use \blank since it is more clever in accumulating cq. handling vertical spaces; also, \defineblank[footnotedistance][.1pc] and then using \blank[footnotedistance] makes the thing configurable (one can redefine the spacing outside the macro) Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] long quotation problem
Willi Egger wrote: Hi Alan, I tried your code. I made the extract to be typeset in red.- Indeed a poor spacing. I withdrew the \godown[0.10pc]. The result looked fine to me. Then I replaced the \godown by \blank[halfline], the result was again o.k. Finally the \godown[0.10pc] was replaced with \godown[12pt] and the result looks o.k. to me. - So may be that there is a problem with your unit pc. indeed such small units start interfering with depth and interlinespacing Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] long quotation problem
Hey, please don't take the famous lorem ipsum for Latin, or those knowing Latin will be offended... This is just random gibberish looking slightly Latin :-) Thomas On Oct 21, 2005, at 6:56 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: please, *no* more latin examples. ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] long quotation problem
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hey, please don't take the famous lorem ipsum for Latin, or those knowing Latin will be offended... This is just random gibberish looking slightly Latin :-) Oeps. Now I know why I didn't get the Latinum :) Peter Thomas On Oct 21, 2005, at 6:56 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: please, *no* more latin examples. ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] long quotation problem
Among printers this Latinate gibberish (which was “taken” from Cicero) was known as “greeked text” or as “printers’ Greek”—which is really nonsense and yet another reason not to pay attention to it! Alan On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:40 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hey, please don't take the famous lorem ipsum for Latin, or those knowing Latin will be offended... This is just random gibberish looking slightly Latin :-) Thomas On Oct 21, 2005, at 6:56 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: please, *no* more latin examples. ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] long quotation problem
Peter, Willi, and Hans—
I have incorporated your suggestions for getting better looking long
quotations, and all is now working very well indeed. Many thanks to
you all.
Alan
PS For the record, here is what I have now—just in case someone down
the line runs into the same problem. A.
% Extracts or Long
Quotations//
In body text
\defineblank[extractdistance][3pt]
\definestartstop[extract][
before={ \blank[extractdistance,force]
\setupnarrower[left=1.5pc,right=1.5pc]
\startnarrower[left,right]
\noindent},
after={\stopnarrower
\blank[extractdistance,force]
\indenting[yes]}]
% In footnotes
\defineblank[footenoteextractdistance][2.7pt]
\definestartstop[fnextract][
before={ \blank[footenoteextractdistance,force]
\setupnarrower[left=1.5pc,right=1.5pc]
\startnarrower[left,right]
\noindent},
after={\stopnarrower
\blank[footenoteextractdistance,force]
\indenting[yes]}]
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[NTG-context] margin kerning problem
Sorry for the flurry of questions. But here’s one about margin kerning now. I see that by using \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal] \setupalign[hz,hanging] I can get margin kerning in the body text, but not in any footnotes/ endnotes. What else is needed to get margin kerning throughout the notes too? As ever, any advice will be gratefully received. Alan ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] processing of setvariables/getvariables again
Taco,
I tried your suggestion, but I'm not sure I'm doing it the right way.
I took the definition of \initialize... like so:
\def\initializegreekfont%
{\getvariable{Greek}{font}}
\appendtoks \initializegreekfont \to \everystarttext % I guess I
will need a similar procedure for
%
initializegreekscale later
I will need the variable twice: once for selecting the typescript and
defining the bodyfont. So in the typescriptfile with the definitions
for all the fonts, I have these lines:
\starttypescript[Greek]
\definetypeface [My\initializegreekfont] [rm] [serif]
[\initializegreekfont] [default] [encoding=agr]
\stoptypescript
And once more for switching to this font:
\startsetups[enablegreek]
\catcode`~=\other
\catcode`|=\other
\catcode`'=\other
\language[greek]
\switchtobodyfont[My\initializegreekfont]
\stopsetups %% suggested by Hans
\def\localgreek{\rescanwithsetup{enablegreek}}
I don't get any errors, but the font is not switched...
Any obvious mistakes I'm making?
Best
Thomas
On Oct 21, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
Hi Taco,
thanks for your reply!! I have to catch a train now, but I'll try
your suggestion tonight when I'm back. And yes, having the
modulesomething variables would be great.
What does \appendtoks do?
It appends stuff to token registers (like \everystarttext)
Taco
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