Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure

2010-02-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Alan BRASLAU wrote: Furthermore, \setupfloats [indentnext=yes] is somewhat strange. I suppose that it might make sense not to indent a new paragraph following a section title, etc. but does it really make sense not to indent a NEW paragraph following a break such as a displayed figure, table,

[NTG-context] automatic lettrine

2010-02-11 Thread Alan BRASLAU
I like the \usemodule [lettrine] package (a quick and dirty conversion of the LaTeX package of the same name). It would be nice to include this functionality (perhaps cleaned-up) in the ConTeXt base macros. Then, it would also be nice to be able to activate an automatic mechanism to begin a first

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 08.02.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? I miss a command to force a manual line

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? I miss a command to

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11-2-2010 9:43, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system?

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Vedran Miletić
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Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Hello Wolfgang, It would be nice, to specify a

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Hello, What about collecting these feature requests

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Vedran Miletić wrote: is * never part of a url then? According to RFC 1738 from IETF, * is used only as a wildcard, e.g. to denote all newsgroups from specific category. It is never used for specifiying a single URL. Still, * can appear unencoded in any url, in either pathinfo or in GET

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Sebastien Mengin
Le 10 févr. 2010 à 03:04, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Am 10.02.10 10:07, schrieb Sebastien Mengin: 1. French quotation marks \quotation{...} There I should probably dive in the doc cause I'd be surprised nothing is set up for the following issue, but, in French, if we have a quotation in a

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 11.02.2010 um 10:37 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 11-2-2010 9:43, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thursday 11 February 2010 11:10:19 Sebastien Mengin wrote: Le 10 févr. 2010 à 03:04, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Am 10.02.10 10:07, schrieb Sebastien Mengin: 1. French quotation marks \quotation{...} There I should probably dive in the doc cause I'd be surprised nothing is set up

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 11.02.2010 um 11:08 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Vedran Miletić wrote: is * never part of a url then? According to RFC 1738 from IETF, * is used only as a wildcard, e.g. to denote all newsgroups from specific category. It is never used for specifiying a single URL. Still, * can appear

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Sebastien Mengin
Le 11 févr. 2010 à 11:12, Steffen Wolfrum a écrit: I miss a command to force a manual line break at any point in a \hyphenatedurl string. Like, e.g. * in \hyphenatedurl{http://www.a_ridiculous_very_long_alpanum*eric_sequence} +1 also. is * never part of a url then? This was

[NTG-context] [translation] Context, an excursion

2010-02-11 Thread Sebastien Mengin
Hi, More than a year ago, I started to participate to the translation project of the context for the beginers guide: ConTeXt, an excursion. For some reasons, I had to stop this. Now, I'd like to try again. Is this doc still accurate? I mean, does it worth to work on its translation or should I

Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure

2010-02-11 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thursday 11 February 2010 08:57:21 Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Thursday 11 February 2010 05:07:15 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 11.02.10 02:14, schrieb Tom: When I place a figure at the bottom of a page, everything is fine if it splits a paragraph, but if it falls between paragraphs,

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Vedran Miletić wrote: According to RFC 1738 from IETF, * is used only as a wildcard, e.g. to denote all newsgroups from specific category. It is never used for specifiying a single URL. So, http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/file*with*stars; is not allowed??? Cheers, Peter --

Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure

2010-02-11 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: An opposite feature is also strange - minimal example: \setupindenting [medium,yes] \starttext A paragraph, including an itemized list: \startitemize [joinedup,packed] \item first \item second \stopitemize The following text is indented. It is

[NTG-context] Fwd: Re: [off-list] Rotated footnotes?

2010-02-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Original Message Subject: Re: [off-list] Rotated footnotes? Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:30:00 +0100 From: Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com To: Steffen Wolfrum cont...@post.werksatz.com, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl Taco Hoekwater wrote: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 11.02.2010 um

Re: [NTG-context] [translation] Context, an excursion

2010-02-11 Thread Alain Delmotte
Hi! Sebastien Mengin a écrit : Hi, More than a year ago, I started to participate to the translation project of the context for the beginers guide: ConTeXt, an excursion. participate ! Does it mean there is a group doing this? For some reasons, I had to stop this. Now, I'd like to try

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Peter Münster wrote: On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Vedran Miletić wrote: According to RFC 1738 from IETF, * is used only as a wildcard, e.g. to denote all newsgroups from specific category. It is never used for specifiying a single URL. So, http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/file*with*stars; is not allowed???

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11-2-2010 10:55, Peter Münster wrote: \setupinterlinespace[line=1cm] % just to make the example more obvious \definetextbackground[myBG][background=color, backgroundcolor=green, % backgroundheight=1ex, % does not work % height=1ex, % does not work frame=off] \starttext bla bla

Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure

2010-02-11 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thursday 11 February 2010 02:14:12 Tom wrote: When I place a figure at the bottom of a page, everything is fine if it splits a paragraph, but if it falls between paragraphs, indentation of at least one of the paragraphs, generally the one coming after the figure, is lost. It appears that

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: \definebar [backbar] [offset=1.5,rulethickness=2.4,color=blue, continue=yes,order=background] Great, many thanks for this hidden feature! What is the logic behind offset and rulethickness (the units and the reference point)? (I played a bit with

[NTG-context] YABQ - yet another bib question

2010-02-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi all, it was quite heartwarming to see how many of us rallied for better bibliographical support when Wolfgang asked what we missed most in ConTeXt... And it's wonderful to see that a new structure for the entire bibliographical stuff is on its way. Hans's xml-based approach will make things

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ - yet another bib question

2010-02-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, it was quite heartwarming to see how many of us rallied for better bibliographical support when Wolfgang asked what we missed most in ConTeXt... And it's wonderful to see that a new structure for the entire bibliographical stuff is on its way. Hans's xml-based

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ - yet another bib question

2010-02-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Is there a setup option for this, or is a hack needed? I expect adding a \setuppublications[refcommand=num] just before the \completepublications will work. Best wishes, Taco And right you are! I should've thought of that myself!

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11-2-2010 14:48, Peter Münster wrote: On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: \definebar [backbar] [offset=1.5,rulethickness=2.4,color=blue, continue=yes,order=background] Great, many thanks for this hidden feature! What is the logic behind offset and rulethickness (the units

[NTG-context] two buglets

2010-02-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi all, working on a book project with index and bibliography, I discovered two small bugs (at least I think they are bugs): 1. index sorts uppercase letters after lowercase letters. Minimal example: \starttext \index{Aardvark}Aardvark \index{azygous}azygous \page

Re: [NTG-context] two buglets

2010-02-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11-2-2010 16:52, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, working on a book project with index and bibliography, I discovered two small bugs (at least I think they are bugs): 1. index sorts uppercase letters after lowercase letters. Minimal example: \starttext \index{Aardvark}Aardvark

Re: [NTG-context] two buglets

2010-02-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11-2-2010 16:52, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: 2. (Maybe not a bug, but a somewhat unfriendly behavior): When a \cite command refers to a non-existent key and sort=bbl, ConTeXt bombs out with a lua error: so what do you expect? to drop that entry? or else, what default key to use? Hans

Re: [NTG-context] two buglets

2010-02-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: are you sure that that's the convention for english? it's easy to change it ... \startluacode sorters.mappings['en'] = { [a] = 2, [b] = 4, [c] = 6, [d] = 8, [e] = 10, [f] = 12, [g] = 14, [h] = 16, [i] = 18, [j] = 20, [k] = 22,

Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure

2010-02-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: PS: Your opinion is not so humble, and I do not really see the rational why indentnext=no is the default for most things* rather than indentnext=auto. Below is my understanding of ConTeXt's design principle (Hans or Taco should correct me if I am

Re: [NTG-context] two buglets

2010-02-11 Thread David Rogers
* Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl [2010-02-11 18:17]: are you sure that that's the convention for english? it's easy to change it ... I've never seen an ordinary English index that was sorted by case. English indexes should definitely default to case-insensitive. (Has anyone here ever been asked

Re: [NTG-context] [translation] Context, an excursion

2010-02-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alain Delmotte wrote: Hi! Sebastien Mengin a écrit : Hi, More than a year ago, I started to participate to the translation project of the context for the beginers guide: ConTeXt, an excursion. participate ! Does it mean there is a group doing this?

[NTG-context] zotero

2010-02-11 Thread Salil Sayed
Hi, Today I checked zotero plugin for openoffice and was very impressed with its functionality and ease of use. Currently I have to export my bibliographies to bibtex format from zotero and then use it through the bibtex module in context. I think this is a awkward way. Can there be a closer

Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure

2010-02-11 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thursday 11 February 2010 18:55:01 Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: PS: Your opinion is not so humble, and I do not really see the rational why indentnext=no is the default for most things* rather than indentnext=auto. Below is my understanding of

Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure

2010-02-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Thursday 11 February 2010 18:55:01 Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: PS: Your opinion is not so humble, and I do not really see the rational why indentnext=no is the default for most things* rather than indentnext=auto.

Re: [NTG-context] two buglets

2010-02-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11-2-2010 18:35, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: are you sure that that's the convention for english? it's easy to change it ... \startluacode sorters.mappings['en'] = { [a] = 2, [b] = 4, [c] = 6, [d] = 8, [e] = 10, [f] = 12, [g] = 14,

[NTG-context] tabs in Lilypond

2010-02-11 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello, Maybe it's wrong place to ask, but does anybody know how to typeset guitar tabulatures in Lilypond? And is ConTeXt Lilypond module is up to date? Vyatcheslav ___ If your question is of interest to others

Re: [NTG-context] zotero

2010-02-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 11-2-2010 19:55, Salil Sayed wrote: Hi, Today I checked zotero plugin for openoffice and was very impressed with its functionality and ease of use. Currently I have to export my bibliographies to bibtex format from zotero and then use it through the bibtex module in context. I think this

Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure

2010-02-11 Thread Tom
This works, but my problem may be self-inflicted by my code for chapter first pages. I want different a different first page format for the introduction, contents and appendices than I have for regular chapters. I suppose that \chapter can be fed parameters other than the chapter name, but can't

[NTG-context] chapter headers (was: indent lost after \placefigure)

2010-02-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 11.02.10 20:50, schrieb Tom: This works, but my problem may be self-inflicted by my code for chapter first pages. I want different a different first page format for the introduction, contents and appendices than I have for regular chapters. I suppose that \chapter can be fed parameters other

[NTG-context] [bib] getting full author(s)'s name(s)

2010-02-11 Thread Philipp Gesang
Good evening, how do I retrieve an author's (or editor's) full name in the correct order (little endian: first name(s) -- surname) from a bib entry? I can do stuff like \getcitedata[author1] but that does leave me with only one of many. I'm convinced the answer lies somewhere hidden in

Re: [NTG-context] zotero

2010-02-11 Thread Salil Sayed
zotero is a firefox plugin (hence a wrapped javascript object) that uses an sqlite database. there is another firefox zotero plugin for openoffice which adds a toolbar to openoffice and lets you choose the citations and styles from within dialog boxes and dynamically change/update them. So

Re: [NTG-context] two buglets

2010-02-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: just give them the same code, so A=1, a=1 (we could make that an option: upper first, lower first, mixed) Hans Thank you, Hans, that works nicely! It would be good to have this as an option. And I would vote for having the mixed setting as

Re: [NTG-context] zotero

2010-02-11 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:10:31 Salil Sayed wrote: zotero is a firefox plugin Thus, of limited generality... ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist

Re: [NTG-context] tabs in Lilypond

2010-02-11 Thread David Rogers
* Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky yatskov...@gmail.com [2010-02-11 21:30]: Hello, Maybe it's wrong place to ask, but does anybody know how to typeset guitar tabulatures in Lilypond? \new TabStaff { \clef tab c d e f g } And is ConTeXt Lilypond module is up to date? Not sure about that. Last

Re: [NTG-context] chapter headers (was: indent lost after \placefigure)

2010-02-11 Thread Tom
Thanks, this is very helpful. I do have a couple of questions, though. Should I insert a section for the body of the text something like this? \startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart] \setuphead[chapter][...] \stopsectionblockenvironment \completecontent causes two blank (except for header)

Re: [NTG-context] chapter headers

2010-02-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 11.02.10 22:41, schrieb Tom: Thanks, this is very helpful. I do have a couple of questions, though. Should I insert a section for the body of the text something like this? \startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart] \setuphead[chapter][...] \stopsectionblockenvironment You can do this but

Re: [NTG-context] tabs in Lilypond

2010-02-11 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2010-02-11 um 22:42 schrieb David Rogers: Maybe it's wrong place to ask, but does anybody know how to typeset guitar tabulatures in Lilypond? \new TabStaff { \clef tab c d e f g } BTW LilyPond's documentation was recently reworked and is really nice now! (It was better than ConTeXt's

Re: [NTG-context] some math symbols not working

2010-02-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Warrence wrote: Hi, I was trying some math symbols and stumbled over the following commands, that do not work in my context documents (the comments say what's not working exactly). The pasted document works at http://live.contextgarden.net/ . I'm using the latest

Re: [NTG-context] some math symbols not working

2010-02-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 12-2-2010 0:10, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Hans, we need a mechanism to implement fallbacks for math characters. \mapsto \hookleftarrow \longleftarrow \Longleftarrow \longrightarrow \Longrightarrow \longleftrightarrow \Longleftrightarrow \longmapsto \hookrightarrow \bowtie \models \Join grep

Re: [NTG-context] chapter headers

2010-02-11 Thread Tom
Wolfgang, I found a spurious ] in the setuphead for the frontpart. Somehow it didn't cause a compile error but was treated as text that I didn't notice at first. Because I want the first pages of regular chapters to look different than those for the contents, introduction and index, I created a

Re: [NTG-context] some math symbols not working

2010-02-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: On 12-2-2010 0:10, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Hans, we need a mechanism to implement fallbacks for math characters. \mapsto \hookleftarrow \longleftarrow \Longleftarrow \longrightarrow \Longrightarrow \longleftrightarrow \Longleftrightarrow \longmapsto

Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

2010-02-11 Thread Lubos Kolouch
Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote: Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package. You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:

Re: [NTG-context] [bib] getting full author(s)'s name(s)

2010-02-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Philipp Gesang wrote: Good evening, how do I retrieve an author's (or editor's) full name in the correct order (little endian: first name(s) -- surname) from a bib entry? I can do stuff like \getcitedata[author1] but that does leave me with only one of many. I'm convinced the answer lies

Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

2010-02-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Lubos Kolouch wrote: Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote: Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package. You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:

Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

2010-02-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote: Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote: Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package. You can also my context-minimals-git package for