Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On 05/07/2011 05:36 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 21:08, Marco wrote: On 2011-05-06 Mojca Miklavec wrote: Looks like context needs a package manager. [...] but I admit that I miss some GUI (but then again I have no idea how to write a portable GUI). There are several possibilities, GTK+ is well documented, ported to many platforms and operating systems (However, maybe not to all, ConTeXt supports) and has Lua bindings. If you can prepare a very simple example and explain how to compile it on windows, mac and windows ... Installing the *right* GTK+ version on macosx is quite a challenge. The texlive way of perl/Tk is much more portable, even though it re-introduces perl to the mix. Another option could be to use a http browser, using Hans' mtxrun web server and client? That is pure lua, but of course it is not available until after installation of context. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Too much spacing in math mode between 'f' and 'l' (MkIV only)
On 05/07/2011 01:26 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Hans and Taco, do you have any idea? Why is the inter-letter spacing different in MkII and MkIV. In math-vfu we have: if italic then width = width + italic end And that is for a reason. I might be a left over from when the math engine was redone. So I need input from Taco. I suspect that was from an earlier, bad interpretation of the opentype math specification and that it can go away. But: much safer is to have a big test file first using various (variable|opname) + other char combinations. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mtxrun fails after update to ubuntu 11.04
On 05/07/2011 02:49 PM, S Barmeier wrote: Hi, After updating my system to ubuntu 11.04, all sorts of access permissions seem to have changed. In particular, when compiling any ConTeXt document, I get oad otf loading: /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmmono8-regular.otf (hash: lmmono8-regular) load otf font loaded okay load otf file size: 66268 load otf enhancing ... load otf saving in cache: /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmmono8-regular.otf report | lua: compiling /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/7625073666844883aa0723352de861b9/fonts/otf/lmmono8-regular.tma into /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/7625073666844883aa0723352de861b9/fonts/otf/lmmono8-regular.tmctexluac: cannot open /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/7625073666844883aa0723352de861b9/fonts/otf/lmmono8-regular.tma: No such file or directory luac: cannot open /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/7625073666844883aa0723352de861b9/fonts/otf/lmmono8-regular.tma: No such file or directory Trying to mtxrun --script fonts --reload, it tells me MTXrun | resolvers: unable to save 'files' in '/usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/7625073666844883aa0723352de861b9/trees/1240e363db2f4c53de58379d2b0c6f6b.lua' (access error) MTXrun | fontnames: unable to access database cache MTXrun | fontnames: accessing the data table failed and similar errors. I've tried sudo mtxrun [...], but then the command is not found. I hope the problem will be resolved by changing folder permissions, but I'm not sure which folders are affected and which I should refrain from changing. You can change permissions of /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context and everything below it, but a nicer solution is to set TEXMFCACHE. There are various options, but the easiest is set TEXMFCACHE=~/texmf-cache in your shell's startup script (you have to create the path manually at first). Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mtxrun fails after update to ubuntu 11.04
Thank you for your reply! mtxrun, luatools and context all --generate now, but trying to mtxrun --script fonts --list --all says it's missing a metatable (whatever that is): [...] MTXrun | fontnames: identifying tree font files with suffix afm MTXrun | fontnames: scanning /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf for afm files MTXrun | fontnames: 1691 entries found, 8 afm files checked, 8 okay MTXrun | fontnames: scanning /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-dist for afm files MTXrun | fontnames: 81835 entries found, 2237 afm files checked, 2237 okay MTXrun | fontnames: identifying tree font files with suffix AFM MTXrun | fontnames: scanning /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf for AFM files MTXrun | fontnames: 1691 entries found, 0 AFM files checked, 0 okay MTXrun | fontnames: scanning /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-dist for AFM files MTXrun | fontnames: 81835 entries found, 0 AFM files checked, 0 okay MTXrun | fontnames: 2245 tree files identified, 139 skipped, 100 duplicates, 2106 hash entries added, runtime 2.310 seconds MTXrun | fontnames: identifying system font files with suffix otf MTXrun | fontnames: adding path from OSFONTDIR: /usr/share/fonts MTXrun | fontnames: adding path from OSFONTDIR: /usr/local/share/fonts MTXrun | fontnames: adding path from OSFONTDIR: /usr/share/fonts MTXrun | fontnames: adding path from OSFONTDIR: /usr/local/share/fonts MTXrun | fontnames: globbing path /usr/share/fonts/**.otf/usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/x86_64-linux/mtxrun:2625: bad argument #1 to '(for generator)' (directory metatable expected, got nil) Again, many thanks. Severin P.S.: Just out of curiosity: I was under the impression that the best way to stay updated with both general TeX and ConTeXt was to run texlive 2010 and point your tlmgr to the tlcontrib repository. luatools gets updated frequently, but the ConTeXt version is from July 2010. Is there any savvy way to update to a newer release of ConTeXt without meddling too much with the existing texlive installation? On 05/08/2011 08:26 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: On 05/07/2011 02:49 PM, S Barmeier wrote: Hi, After updating my system to ubuntu 11.04, all sorts of access permissions seem to have changed. In particular, when compiling any ConTeXt document, I get ... Trying to mtxrun --script fonts --reload, it tells me MTXrun | resolvers: unable to save 'files' in '/usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/7625073666844883aa0723352de861b9/trees/1240e363db2f4c53de58379d2b0c6f6b.lua' (access error) MTXrun | fontnames: unable to access database cache MTXrun | fontnames: accessing the data table failed and similar errors. I've tried sudo mtxrun [...], but then the command is not found. I hope the problem will be resolved by changing folder permissions, but I'm not sure which folders are affected and which I should refrain from changing. You can change permissions of /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context and everything below it, but a nicer solution is to set TEXMFCACHE. There are various options, but the easiest is set TEXMFCACHE=~/texmf-cache in your shell's startup script (you have to create the path manually at first). Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Annotation and background color
On 7 mai 2011, at 17:24, Aditya Mahajan wrote: […] Have you seen my (old) MAPS article on theorems: http://www.ntg.nl/maps/36/09.pdf That gives an example of how to get a list of all enumerations. I haven't tested that with MkIV, but that example uses just lists. Hi Aditya, Thanks fo rthe link: it's a pity I didn't know that article. It is very clear and useful, and if I knew this before I would have added a reference to it on the wiki, http://wiki.contextgarden.net/proclaim Just a remark about putting the list of proclaims at some place: in mkii, as you say in your article, the following \placelist[enumeration:all][width=6em,criterium=all] gives a list of all the titles and page numbers of proclaims. However it does not work with mkiv, I guess because the command has been slightly changed for placing lists: by any chance do you know what would be the correct invocation? Best regards: OK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Annotation and background color
On 7 mai 2011, at 17:29, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
[…]
\defineenumeration[proclaim]
[text=,
style=slanted,
title=yes,
titleleft=,
titleright=,
location=serried,
width=fit,
right={.~},
way=bysection,
prefix=yes,
prefixsegments=section]
Wolfgang
Hi Wolfgang,
Thank you for your insight: indeed by saying
way=bysection,
prefix=yes,
prefixsegments=section
one gets the correct behavior both in mkii and mkiv (so I changed my definition
of proclaim).
Just out of curioisty, though it might be useful in some circumstances, how
would you do in order to have
ChapterNumber.SectionNumber.ProclaimNumber
instead of just SectionNumber.ProclaimNumber, if at all possible?
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Re: [NTG-context] Annotation and background color
On 7 mai 2011, at 18:32, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 07.05.2011 um 16:37 schrieb Otared Kavian:
Hi Wolfgang,
Many thanks for your explanations.
If I may ask a further question, I would like to know at which level one can
control whether the first argument of the quotation in the example
\MyQuotation{Wolfgang Schuster}{The annotation module is wonderful!}
is surrounded or not by parentheses?
The header (First Argument of the command) consists of
TEXT (“text”-key)
NUMBER (incremented by context but you can enable/disable it with
“number=yes|no”)
LEFT SYMBOL (“left”-key, default: “(”)
RIGHT SYMBOL (“right”-key, default “)”)
TITLE(“title”-key or optional argument of the command/environment)
Hi,
Thanks to your explanations I understood the meanings of each of the keys, and
the principles of using the annotation environment.
What would be the key to use in order to have (for instance) a colon « : »
after the number?
Best regards: OK
I am asking this because I defined for my own use a macro which replaces the
\proclaim command of Plain TeX (which disappeared in ConTeXt): I am thinking
of switching to use the annotation module, since maybe with that it should
be possible to have a list of all anotations of a certain type (for instance
list of all theorems, all lemmas, etc) with the page at which they appear.
Also with the annotations environment it seems that one can have more fancy
layouts for proclaims.
The annotation module doesn’t have so many options as enumerations and it is
no replacement for them. What the module does is that it generates a
environment (like \definestartstop) where you have access to the content,
with your own command you can format the content in any way you like.
The advantage of this method is that you can separate content and layout of
certain texts which isn’t possible with build in methods, e.g. a \inmargin
text will always appear in the margin and when you want the text now as quote
you have to change the command from \inmargin to \quotation but with the
annotation module the command in your document won’t change because the
switch from \inmargin to \quotation happens in the preamble with the setup of
the environment.
\usemodule[annotation]
\define[2]\AnnotationCommand{\quotation{#2}}
\setupannotation[alternative=inmargin]
%\setupannotation[alternative=command,command=\AnnotationCommand]
\starttext
… \startannotation Hello\stopannotation …
… \startannotation Hello\stopannotation …
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On 2011-05-07 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 21:08, Marco wrote:
On 2011-05-06 Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Looks like context needs a package manager.
[...] but I admit that I miss some GUI (but then
again I have no idea how to write a portable GUI).
There are several possibilities, GTK+ is well
documented, ported to many platforms and operating
systems (However, maybe not to all, ConTeXt supports)
and has Lua bindings.
If you can prepare a very simple example and explain how
to compile it on windows, mac and windows ...
A simple example of a GUI is attached and may serve as a
starting point (questions to the example maybe better
off-list, since it's not at all ConTeXt related).
I don't know which packages are required on windows or
macos. On linux and solaris it is sufficient to install
GTK and the lua-gtk bindings.
Marco
#! /usr/bin/env lua
Mainwin = {}
Mainwin.__index = Mainwin
List = {
'Just',
'some',
'random',
'stuff',
'for',
'demonstration',
}
local function UpdateProgressBar(bar)
local oldFrac = gtk.progress_bar_get_fraction(bar)
local frac= 1/#List
if (oldFrac + frac = 1)
then
frac = 0
oldFrac = 1
gtk.main_quit()
end
gtk.progress_bar_set_fraction(bar, oldFrac + frac)
end
function Progressbar()
local progress = gtk.progress_bar_new()
gtk.progress_bar_set_text(progress, Processingâ¦)
gtk.progress_bar_set_fraction(progress, 0)
return progress
end
function Mainwin.new()
local self = {}
setmetatable(self, Mainwin)
-- Set main window size, title, â¦
self.w = gtk.window_new(gtk.WINDOW_TOPLEVEL)
self.w:set_title(My Program)
self.w:connect('destroy', gtk.main_quit)
self.w:set_default_size(400, 400)
-- Vertical box
local vbox = gtk.vbox_new(false, 10)
vbox:set_border_width(5)
self.w:add(vbox)
-- Tool bar
local toolbar = gtk.toolbar_new()
vbox:pack_start(toolbar, false, true, 0)
-- Tool bar: items
local items = {
{ gtk-go-forward, StartProcessing },
{ SEPARATOR, nil },
{ gtk-quit, gtk.main_quit } }
-- Tool bar: add items to tool bar
for _, item in pairs(items) do
local stock = item[1]
local handler = item[2]
local button, id
if stock == 'SEPARATOR' then
button = gtk.separator_tool_item_new()
else
button = gtk.tool_button_new_from_stock(stock)
id = button:connect(clicked, handler, self)
end
toolbar:insert(button, -1)
end
-- Progress bar
progressbar = Progressbar()
vbox:pack_start(progressbar, false, true, 0)
-- Scroll window
local scrollwindow = gtk.scrolled_window_new(nil, nil)
vbox:pack_start(scrollwindow, true, true, 0)
-- Tree view
local treeview = gtk.tree_view_new()
scrollwindow:add(treeview)
-- create store
local store = gtk.tree_store_new(3,
glib.TYPE_INT, -- [0] some ID
glib.TYPE_STRING, -- [1] path / file name
glib.TYPE_STRING) -- [2] Status
treeview:set_model(store)
-- column with text
local r, c
r = gtk.cell_renderer_text_new()
c = gtk.tree_view_column_new_with_attributes(File, r, text, 1, nil)
treeview:append_column(c)
c = gtk.tree_view_column_new_with_attributes(Status, r, text, 2, nil)
treeview:append_column(c)
-- add some items
local iter1 = gtk.new TreeIter
for i = 1, #List
do
store:append(iter1, nil)
store:set(iter1, 0, i, 1, List[i], -1)
end
self.w:show_all()
return self
end
function StartProcessing()
DoStartProcessing_c = gnome.closure(DoStartProcessing)
glib.timeout_add(200,
DoStartProcessing_c,
DoStartProcessing)
end
function DoStartProcessing()
UpdateProgressBar(progressbar)
return true
end
--
-- Main Program --
--
require gtk
mainwin = Mainwin.new()
gtk.main()
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Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On 2011-05-08 Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: There are several possibilities, GTK+ is well documented, ported to many platforms and operating systems (However, maybe not to all, ConTeXt supports) and has Lua bindings. If you can prepare a very simple example and explain how to compile it on windows, mac and windows ... Installing the *right* GTK+ version on macosx is quite a challenge. I don't know, I never used macosx. The texlive way of perl/Tk is much more portable, even though it re-introduces perl to the mix. I don't think it's a good idea to introduce perl. The way to go is to get rid of the hotchpotch of languages and implement everything in lua, if possible. If we prefer TK over GTK why not use the lua Tk bindings? Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
Another option could be to use a http browser, using Hans' mtxrun web server and client? That is pure lua, but of course it is not available until after installation of context. We could bootstrap the system by first downloading only the necessary pieces, like is done for the Minimals. It should only need half a dozen files. But all that needs to be actually developed, of course. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Too much spacing in math mode between 'f' and 'l' (MkIV only)
On 8-5-2011 1:22, Taco Hoekwater wrote: On 05/07/2011 01:26 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Hans and Taco, do you have any idea? Why is the inter-letter spacing different in MkII and MkIV. In math-vfu we have: if italic then width = width + italic end And that is for a reason. I might be a left over from when the math engine was redone. So I need input from Taco. I suspect that was from an earlier, bad interpretation of the opentype math specification and that it can go away. But: much safer is to have a big test file first using various (variable|opname) + other char combinations. ok, for now i'll just comment that code Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On 8-5-2011 4:56, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: Another option could be to use a http browser, using Hans' mtxrun web server and client? That is pure lua, but of course it is not available until after installation of context. We could bootstrap the system by first downloading only the necessary pieces, like is done for the Minimals. It should only need half a dozen files. But all that needs to be actually developed, of course. can someone remind me what problem we're trying to solve here? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Annotation and background color
Am 08.05.2011 um 15:39 schrieb Otared Kavian: What would be the key to use in order to have (for instance) a colon « : » after the number? There is a stopper key but the argument is placed after the right symbol. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some Ethiopic examples (hyphenation/breaking) in ConTeXt
On 7-5-2011 4:19, Mojca Miklavec wrote: In fact there are two different writing paradigms. One uses word separator and another one uses spaces. My guess that the second one might have arised in the modern era due to poor computer suppor. (If they are using spaces, they have at least a chance that words break in text editors and web browsers, but I may be wrong. Wikipedia uses spaces for example, but all old books use separators.) So what are the rules for mixing languages/scripts then? [ethi] [latn] [ethi] (My roommate was just robbed/scammed in Ethiopia last week; no wonder that even spam filters put the mails in the same category as Nigerian scams :) I recently installed language blocking to the routers ... at some point I think it will become 'block all' unless 'a few countries'. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some Ethiopic examples (hyphenation/breaking) in ConTeXt
So what are the rules for mixing languages/scripts then? I'm not sure there are any rules. There might be typographical traditions, though. I recently installed language blocking to the routers ... at some point I think it will become 'block all' unless 'a few countries'. There are scammers in every country, unfortunately. In London there is a well-known scam when you are looking for a flat to rent; adverts that look like genuine offers at first turn out to be just a trick by scammers to rip you off of your money. I made contact with some of them when I first moved here, but stopped talking to them very soon because what they told me didn't make any sense. I feel uncomfortable when things don't make sense :-) Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 19:36, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 8-5-2011 4:56, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: Another option could be to use a http browser, using Hans' mtxrun web server and client? That is pure lua, but of course it is not available until after installation of context. We could bootstrap the system by first downloading only the necessary pieces, like is done for the Minimals. It should only need half a dozen files. But all that needs to be actually developed, of course. can someone remind me what problem we're trying to solve here? Having a GUI installer for the minimals (to make it more user-friendly and enable the user to choose what modules and fonts to install). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On 2011-05-07 17:45:47, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:19, Philipp Gesang wrote: 2. Until we do something about it, it would be very very desirable to put it to modules.contextgarden.net (I know that it is painful). If it’s possible now I’d try it asap. Did you have any problems? In case you did, please contact Patrick. I did have problems about a year ago. Probably tomorrow--- depending on the weather---I’ll add an xml interface file and comment the module source. After that I’ll give the upload another shot. I keep my finders crossed for you. :) Looks like it worked now: http://modules.contextgarden.net/rst Have fun, Philipp -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments pgpAWbn6VxIdy.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On Sun 08 May 2011, Marco wrote: If we prefer TK over GTK why not use the lua Tk bindings? When I saw this discussion starting I googled the Lua Tk bindings, and it turned out [1] that they apparently haven't been updated since 1998. A shame, since Tk is usually a good bet for easy cross-platform GUIs. [1] http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~celes/tklua/ Pont ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mtxrun fails after update to ubuntu 11.04
On Sun 08 May 2011, S Barmeier wrote: Is there any savvy way to update to a newer release of ConTeXt without meddling too much with the existing texlive installation? The best way is to install the minimals; it's a complete stand-alone ConTeXt system that can go anywhere (including your home directory), so you don't risk any complex interactions with existing TeX installations. Pont ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] GUI for minimals WAS: Re: [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On 2011-05-09 Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net wrote: On Sun 08 May 2011, Marco wrote: If we prefer TK over GTK why not use the lua Tk bindings? When I saw this discussion starting I googled the Lua Tk bindings, and it turned out [1] that they apparently haven't been updated since 1998. What about ltcltk [1], it's from 2010? However I never used it, I just did some simple GUIs with the GTK+ binding. [1] http://www.tset.de/ltcltk/ Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On 2011-05-08 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 19:36, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 8-5-2011 4:56, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: Another option could be to use a http browser, using Hans' mtxrun web server and client? That is pure lua, but of course it is not available until after installation of context. We could bootstrap the system by first downloading only the necessary pieces, like is done for the Minimals. It should only need half a dozen files. But all that needs to be actually developed, of course. can someone remind me what problem we're trying to solve here? Having a GUI installer for the minimals (to make it more user-friendly and enable the user to choose what modules and fonts to install). Just a (maybe stupid) idea: What about making the existing windows GUI install and/or update all available modules/fonts, since most windows users don't care about a few hundred MiB disk space. Second, creating a repository for Debian/Ubuntu that enables Linux users to install the minimals using the system package manager. It's easy to create a package for the modules. I have no idea how package management works for MacOS, if something like repositories exist or how software is installed/updated. And leave the existing interface for the other platforms, since the vast majority uses either Linux, Windows or MacOS. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On May 8, 2011, at 11:00 PM, Marco wrote: Having a GUI installer for the minimals (to make it more user-friendly and enable the user to choose what modules and fonts to install). Just a (maybe stupid) idea: What about making the existing windows GUI install and/or update all available modules/fonts, since most windows users don't care about a few hundred MiB disk space. Second, creating a repository for Debian/Ubuntu that enables Linux users to install the minimals using the system package manager. It's easy to create a package for the modules. I have no idea how package management works for MacOS, if something like repositories exist or how software is installed/updated. And leave the existing interface for the other platforms, since the vast majority uses either Linux, Windows or MacOS. Just a few thoughts: 1. linux ≠ ubuntu/debian. Maintaining a repository for all different linux distros in their different package formats would be a nightmare. 2. Maintaining a cross-platform GUI is incredibly difficult. gtk is an absolute non-starter on OS X. 3. Resources are limited. I would rather they go into development of luatex and mkiv then into eye-candy for mouse-pushers. 4. We now get reports from people (not necessarily, but sometomes newbies) going I ran command X, and the output was Y. With a GUI we get: I pushed the button, you know the one with the letters on it, and nothing happened. GUIs have a tendency to hide useful information, making debugging all but impossible. (I sometimes look at comp.text.tex on usenet - the number of people who confuse their editor and its shiny interface with the underlying TeX engine is staggering; the same would happen here). 5. Even if it's easy to create a debian package for the modules, who's going to create and maintain it? 6. Offering a GUI sends out a wrong message to new users: it pretends that this is just something that will work the same way as their word processor or office program works. But once people actually want to do useful things, they need to learn a minimum of coding techniques. Users will then feel deceived because the shiny GUI made them believe they could just write away and click buttons. In sum: I see no compelling reason in favor of, but many important reasons against such an installer. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On 2011-05-08 Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote: On May 8, 2011, at 11:00 PM, Marco wrote: Having a GUI installer for the minimals (to make it more user-friendly and enable the user to choose what modules and fonts to install). Just a (maybe stupid) idea: What about making the existing windows GUI install and/or update all available modules/fonts, since most windows users don't care about a few hundred MiB disk space. Second, creating a repository for Debian/Ubuntu that enables Linux users to install the minimals using the system package manager. It's easy to create a package for the modules. I have no idea how package management works for MacOS, if something like repositories exist or how software is installed/updated. And leave the existing interface for the other platforms, since the vast majority uses either Linux, Windows or MacOS. Just a few thoughts: 1. linux ≠ ubuntu/debian. Maintaining a repository for all different linux distros in their different package formats would be a nightmare. ACK. 2. Maintaining a cross-platform GUI is incredibly difficult. gtk is an absolute non-starter on OS X. If you say so. But anyway, we should not discuss about which GUI toolkit we use, since it is not at all decided that anything will change at this point. 3. Resources are limited. I would rather they go into development of luatex and mkiv then into eye-candy for mouse-pushers. 4. We now get reports from people (not necessarily, but sometomes newbies) going I ran command X, and the output was Y. With a GUI we get: I pushed the button, you know the one with the letters on it, and nothing happened. GUIs have a tendency to hide useful information, making debugging all but impossible. (I sometimes look at comp.text.tex on usenet - the number of people who confuse their editor and its shiny interface with the underlying TeX engine is staggering; the same would happen here). I agree.My thought was thefollowing: The installation/update of ConTeXt is not integrated into the systems default methods. How often do we get installation help requests on the mailing list (on every platform)! Supporting the default installation/update method of the operating system would not necessarily need a GUI and be easy for the users. 5. Even if it's easy to create a debian package for the modules, who's going to create and maintain it? The creation of the package is scriptable. When the module developer uploads/updates a module a (not yet existing) script is called that creates the Debian package, which is saved in the repository. Of course a scriptable solution breaks when e.g. dependencies are not met. 6. Offering a GUI sends out a wrong message to new users: it pretends that this is just something that will work the same way as their word processor or office program works. But once people actually want to do useful things, they need to learn a minimum of coding techniques. Users will then feel deceived because the shiny GUI made them believe they could just write away and click buttons. In sum: I see no compelling reason in favor of, but many important reasons against such an installer. As said before: Supporting the native package installation mechanisms of the major OSs/distributions would be a big help. For the rest the present mechanisms work fine. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Proposed changes for Croatian language
just send me a patch after the next beta then (i just merged in other fixes) I've attached the newly patched lang-txt.lua against the current experimental (2011.05.08) with the hu fixes. Adam lang-txt.lua.gz Description: lang-txt.lua.gz ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Error with export=yes
fixed in next beta
(you can replace gmatch by string.gmatch as a fast fix)
Thanks, that fixed the problem for one, but still it fails on my thesis with:
! LuaTeX error /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/back-exp.lua:868: attempt to
index field '?' (a nil value).
empty file
I hope it is not because of my tex file.
Log attached.
Adam
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Re: [NTG-context] Error with export=yes
Further, using an example with dingbats:
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\setupbackend[export=cld-mkiv-export.xml,xhtml=cld-mkiv-export.xhtml,css={cld-mkiv-export.css,mathml.css}]
\starttext
Hello world! \getnamedglyphdirect{name:dingbats}{a79}
\stoptext
%%%
Produces a broken xhtml (XML Parsing Error: not well-formed), the pdf is fine
of course.
The end-mark is exported to �� in xhtml.
Not sure if that's anything to fix, just wanted to let you know.
Adam
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