Re: [NTG-context] Feedback wanted on a ConTeXt tutorial
Hi Mari, As some already mentioned In OS is not correct either use OS or On! In section 1.1.1 the last sentence is: TeXLive comes with a quite nice editor, TeXShop, that works well with ConTEXt 1) Missing period 2) TeXShop is Mac only. You probably meant to to say TeXWorks! TeXWorks is based on TeXShop. I do not know if it runs on Windows. In section 1.1.2 in the last sentence you write: […] and (abt 40 euros; a non-commercial licence is cheaper) […] 1) I do not get this? Where do you buy it? Never new you could buy it! 2) On can install the ConTeXt Standalone and download TeXShop, very little effort is needed to direct TeXShop to the standalone version. Switching between TeXLive and Standalone is then easy. 3) I could write up a tutorial for installing and TeXlive and Standalone if you care for one. Furthermore, Mac OS is a Unix system, though most do not realize this. Also, It might be best to point to the wiki for installing ConTeXt. In section 2.2 you talk about command, yet you forget to mention that commands can have a setup-command. I believe it is important to mention this as it is a integral part of ConTeXt and very important when using it as you example commands show. In general I would say your general way of going about things are O.K. Yet, I have one problem. I personally believe you should go into more detail about the relationship between typesetting, layout and ConTeXt. It depends if you are writing a getting started manual or want to write a comprehensive tutorial. I myself started on a tutorial as I find the contextref not comprehensive enough and it really does not go into the caveats and use of all the options of the commands therein. My idea was to divide the section into basics and explanation of the options and advanced usage. Hope this helps. Keep up the good work. reagrds Keith. Am 29.09.2013 um 17:22 schrieb Mari Voipio mari.voi...@iki.fi: Hello! Inspired by some informal discussions at the recent ConTeXt meeting I started to write a *really* basic ConTeXt tutorial. However, before I get further than the first six chapters, I'd like to get feedback on it, especially on the content, but also on the layout. The file is (at least temporarily) available at http://www.lucet.fi/pdfs/ctxbasics.pdf. I know already that there are a few things missing in the existing chapters, but I'd like to know if the document is any good and if the style is suitable for such a document. I've planned and written it out of my own experiences with ConTeXt, so maybe this document could become a My Way doc when it is finished (something public domain anyway). ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] fake feature “extend” behaving weirdly
On 9/29/2013 11:55 PM, Philipp Gesang wrote:
Hi Hans,
this got posted on the DANTE list today.
\definefontfeature [quite_wide] [extend=1.5]
\definefont [mainfont] [file:Iwona-Regular.otf]
\definefont [widefont] [file:Iwona-Regular.otf*quite_wide]
\starttext
\mainfont
{\widefont foo} %% comment this line and “bar” is fine
bar
{\widefont baz}
\stoptext
The example defines two fonts with the same base font. If the
scaled variant is used before the regular one then the latter
will appear scaled as well and the spacing (bboxes?) gets messed
up.
I suspect a relation to this old issue:
http://tracker.luatex.org/view.php?id=829
but if I substitute “slant” for “extend” the behavior is
different.
indeed a known bug in the backend that will be resolved once that part
of the code has been cleaned up (extend etc is a seldom used hack so has
a low priority)
Hans
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt Meetings come and go
Hi all, We just finished the ConTeXt meeting in Brejlov. Once again, it was a great pleasure to meet in person. A big thank you! to Jano Kula is in order for organizing yet another flawless meeting! Now looking forward; at the annual members meeting of the ConTeXt Group in Brejlov, the location for the next meeting (the eight one already) was decided, we will go back to the same place we were at in 2011. 't Sjetootje in Bassenge-Boirs, Belgium. Good food, nice beers, a quirky location and a very friendly host should make for a perfect return visit in 2014! Registration is not open yet as I have to figure out the correct pricing levels first and that will take a few months, but the date is firmly set already: Monday evening September 8 -- Saturday morning September 13, 2014 More news will be posted once it becomes available. Best wishes, Taco http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2014 http://group.contextgarden.net/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Feedback wanted on a ConTeXt tutorial
On 9/29/2013 1:05 PM, Marco Patzer wrote: Some thoughts: 1.1.1 Unfortunately there’s no really easy way to install ConTEXt on Windows. I never installed ConTeXt on Windows, but if this is true this should definitely be fixed. According to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone#Command_line_method ... For my part ... I recently installed TeXLive 2012 and 2013 on Windows 7, and it was easy. I told it to install only the ConTeXt scheme, instead of installing everything. Also I had to configure the TeXWorks editor options to use ConTeXt (LuaTeX) by default instead of pdfLaTeX. But other than that, unless I'm forgetting something, it worked fine, out-of-the-box. Lars ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Find all words set into the margin
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:52:52 +0100 H. Özoguz h.oezo...@mmnetz.de wrote: I use \definefontfeature[default][default][expansion=quality,protrusion=quality] \setupalign[hz,hanging] \usetypescript[times] \setupbodyfont[times,11pt] \setuptolerance[verystrict] Is there a command or a macro to find all occurences in a file (or projekt), where some word is printed into the margin? (Maybe because of bad hyphenation or something else.) - Would be perfect for manual check-up and corrections! Thanks. Huseyin You could try setting \overfullrule=5pt This is an original TeX primitive. Plain TeX sets it at 5pt. You can then scan pages looking for a black rectangle in the right margin. I cannot determine which code to search for in e.g., grep but perhaps you can. I just tested it and \overfillrule works with MKIV context if it is set for some value other than zero. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html PDF e-book: Create Book Covers with Scribus available at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] What do \start and \stop mean?
I found \start and \stop referenced in the context reference manual (e.g. section 5.5). While \startXYZ - \stopXYZ pairs are discussed earlier, I can't find any place that \start and \stop (with no suffix) are described. They seem to be used like \bgroup and \egroup. Is that right? They are defined in core-sys.mkiv, but I can't figure out from there what they actually do. I'll contribute documentation for them if someone can tell me what they mean. Thanks, Lars ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do \start and \stop mean?
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013, Lars Huttar wrote: I found \start and \stop referenced in the context reference manual (e.g. section 5.5). While \startXYZ - \stopXYZ pairs are discussed earlier, I can't find any place that \start and \stop (with no suffix) are described. They seem to be used like \bgroup and \egroup. Is that right? They are defined in core-sys.mkiv, but I can't figure out from there what they actually do. (Untested, based on what I remember): \start = \bgroup \stop = \egroup but \start scans the next argument, so there are situations when \start may fail but \bgroup works. \start[whatever] ... \stop = \startwhatever ... \stopwhatever Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do \start and \stop mean?
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Lars Huttar lars_hut...@sil.org wrote:
I found \start and \stop referenced in the context reference manual
(e.g. section 5.5).
While \startXYZ - \stopXYZ pairs are discussed earlier, I can't find any
place that \start and \stop (with no suffix) are described.
They seem to be used like \bgroup and \egroup. Is that right?
They are defined in core-sys.mkiv, but I can't figure out from there
what they actually do.
I'll contribute documentation for them if someone can tell me what they
mean.
Thanks,
Lars
core-sys.mkiv :
\unexpanded\def\start
{\dosingleempty\syst_start}
\def\syst_start
{\bgroup
\iffirstargument
\expandafter\syst_start_yes
\else
\expandafter\syst_start_nop
\fi}
\def\syst_start_yes[#1]%
{\edef\m_syst_start_stop{#1}%
\ifx\m_syst_start_stop\empty
\let\syst_stop_indeed\donothing
\else\ifcsname\e!start\m_syst_start_stop\endcsname
\expandafter\let\expandafter\syst_stop_indeed\csname\e!stop\m_syst_start_stop\endcsname
\csname\e!start\m_syst_start_stop\expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\endcsname
\else
\let\syst_stop_indeed\donothing
\fi\fi}
\def\syst_start_nop[#1]%
{\let\syst_stop_indeed\donothing}
\unexpanded\def\stop
{\syst_stop_indeed
\egroup}
(it should be \let\donothing\empty)
--
luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] What do \start and \stop mean?
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:00 PM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Lars Huttar lars_hut...@sil.org wrote:
I found \start and \stop referenced in the context reference manual
(e.g. section 5.5).
While \startXYZ - \stopXYZ pairs are discussed earlier, I can't find any
place that \start and \stop (with no suffix) are described.
They seem to be used like \bgroup and \egroup. Is that right?
They are defined in core-sys.mkiv, but I can't figure out from there
what they actually do.
I'll contribute documentation for them if someone can tell me what they
mean.
Thanks,
Lars
core-sys.mkiv :
\unexpanded\def\start
{\dosingleempty\syst_start}
\def\syst_start
{\bgroup
\iffirstargument
\expandafter\syst_start_yes
\else
\expandafter\syst_start_nop
\fi}
\def\syst_start_yes[#1]%
{\edef\m_syst_start_stop{#1}%
\ifx\m_syst_start_stop\empty
\let\syst_stop_indeed\donothing
\else\ifcsname\e!start\m_syst_start_stop\endcsname
\expandafter\let\expandafter\syst_stop_indeed\csname\e!stop\m_syst_start_stop\endcsname
\csname\e!start\m_syst_start_stop\expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\endcsname
\else
\let\syst_stop_indeed\donothing
\fi\fi}
\def\syst_start_nop[#1]%
{\let\syst_stop_indeed\donothing}
\unexpanded\def\stop
{\syst_stop_indeed
\egroup}
(it should be \let\donothing\empty)
sorry, hit return too early.
\start ... \stop without argument is
\bgroup % from\def\syst_start
\expandafter\syst_start_nop
\syst_start_nop is
{\let\syst_stop_indeed\donothing}
and \stop is hence
\syst_stop_indeed
\egroup
i.e.
\donothing
\egroup
are like \bgroup ... \egroup
It seems that there are no examples of \start[]..\stop .
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Re: [NTG-context] Feedback wanted on a ConTeXt tutorial
Any chance of getting that tutorial in some sort of version control? Github/SVN/bitbucket or whatever?! On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Lars Huttar lars_hut...@sil.org wrote: On 9/29/2013 1:05 PM, Marco Patzer wrote: Some thoughts: 1.1.1 Unfortunately there’s no really easy way to install ConTEXt on Windows. I never installed ConTeXt on Windows, but if this is true this should definitely be fixed. According to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone#Command_line_method ... For my part ... I recently installed TeXLive 2012 and 2013 on Windows 7, and it was easy. I told it to install only the ConTeXt scheme, instead of installing everything. Also I had to configure the TeXWorks editor options to use ConTeXt (LuaTeX) by default instead of pdfLaTeX. But other than that, unless I'm forgetting something, it worked fine, out-of-the-box. Lars ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] beta
Hi, I uploaded a new beta (still catching up from last week). The core now has the simplefonts-turned-fontselector code included but only those present last week have the edge of knowing how to use it unless WS decides to reveal its secrets and/or LS undiscloses it by posting source code. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] question about linespace adjustment
On 9/26/2013 3:47 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: You can use \switchtobodyfont to change the size for certain parts of a text but it’s best to keep this to a minimum because \tfa etc. are a lot faster. The reason why you don’t need \setupinterlinespace when you use \switchtobodyfont is that \setupinterlinespace is already called by \switchtobodyfont. Another thing which shouldn’t be forgotten is that \switchtobodyfont controls and changes the sizes for \tfa etc. Wolfgang To summarize this, and what I've learned from others on this list over the last week or two, I've updated the wiki page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Font_Switching It's a pretty substantial change, so I hope someone knowledgeable will look at it and make sure it's right. I'm trying to find ways to express the fact that, as I understand it, there are two distinct concepts of current font in effect at any given time: 1) the bodyfont, which is set by \setupbodyfont or \switchtobodyfont 2) the effective font (is there a more standard term for this?) which is changed by \tfa, \ss, etc. \tfa etc. change the effective font based on what the bodyfont is. Anything that changes the bodyfont, such as \switchtobodyfont, also affects the linespacing. Just changing the effective font does not affect the linespacing. Changing the bodyfont changes the effective font. Does that give an accurate picture? Thanks, Lars ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
