[NTG-context] Re: FreeBSD 13.2

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 13:12, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> Can freebsd 14 work with older bins?

Yes, definitely.

> The previous method of these hard coded version numbers was a pain

You  might be mixing up FreeBSD and OpenBSD.

FreeBSD is (fully) compatible, OpenBSD is totally incompatible.

(I'm even a bit surprised that binaries compiled on 14 don't work on
13, but well ...)

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[NTG-context] Re: FreeBSD 13.2

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Roger,

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 at 15:34, Roger Mason wrote:
>
> After unpacking, running the install scripts results in:
>
> ld-elf.so.1: /home/rmason/Software/Context/bin/mtxrun: Undefined symbol
> "__libc_start1@FBSD_1.7"
>
> I assume this is because mtxrun is compiled for FreeBSD 14.0.

There were some troubles with our infrastructure which led Hans to
build the binaries himself without paying extra attention to
compatibility with older systems.

You can find the binaries here:
https://build.contextgarden.net/dl/luametatex/

but I hope that Hans will rebuild the installer in order to make the
older systems functional again.

Other than that, building luametatex is relatively straightforward with CMake.
The sources can be found either inside ConTeXt or separately inside
https://github.com/contextgarden/luametatex

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[NTG-context] Re: New upload doesn't work on macOS 10.13.6

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Ralf,

On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 at 21:07, Ralf Heinrich Arning wrote:
>
> after having tried to update with the new upload, ConTEXt doesn't run anymore.
>
> According to the output the new version requires a more recent system.

We had some technical difficulties on our build farm, so Hans built
the binaries on a (too) recent macOS version.

A binary built on an older version can be found here:

https://build.contextgarden.net/dl/luametatex/main/x86_64-darwinlegacy/luametatex
but you would need to remove some flag first, else the security system
won't let you start it (I would have to check what command exactly
needs to be called; the installer does it automatically for you).
I think that "context" is just a copy of that same binary.

Maybe Hans can rebuild the binary installers using the above binary.

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[NTG-context] Re: archive.contextgarden.net 404?

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 00:42, Jim  wrote:
>
> Today I ran across three references to archive.contextgarden.net, one in a
> tugboat article and two others in context garden wiki pages.
>
> I was not able to reach that site.  Is it (long since?) dead or is it just
> on vacation temporarily?

It is on a veery long vacation.

The previous server broke down and I've been waiting for the volunteer
taking care of the server to get it back up (on a new machine).

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[NTG-context] contextgarden server in Slovenia died last night

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

Unfortunately the contextgarden server in Slovenia died yesterday evening.
We will let you know how this unfolds, but don't expect it back in a day.

That includes:
- meeting site (a copy was set up at https://meetingnl.contextgarden.net/)
- context group site
- the legacy distribution
- build farm
- CTAN mirror
- a bunch more ...

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[NTG-context] Re: list of modules: need changes/testing/response

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 at 20:17, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>
> * t-gnuplot (2013, Mojca)

It would certainly not hurt to somewhat modernise the code, switch to
t-filter etc., but last time I checked it still worked even with lmtx.

I have no idea whether there are users depending on it.
Gnuplot itself is pretty much stuck in the nineties, so the module is
not really expected to change a lot either (except to follow newer
code style of ConTeXt).

For my PhD thesis gnuplot was lacking enough features that I switched
to matplotlib, but for simple graphs it would still be handy.

I would definitely keep it in TeX Live. As far as LMTX installer is
concerned ... no clue.

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Re: [NTG-context] new units

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

On Sun, 7 May 2023 at 11:11, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
>
> And what’s the abbreviation for Theodores?

I assume it must be "tr", though it's somewhat ambiguous what the "r"
in "tr" stands for, it seems to be country-dependent ;)

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Standalone does not works on macOS Monterey with Apple M2 chip

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 08:48, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 09:24, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to install ConTeXt Standalone on my Mac (macOS 12.6 Monterey and 
> > Apple M2 chip) but at the end of the installation the ConTeXt-MkIV folder 
> > (where I install Standalone) on the disk weighs only 7MB (the tex tree is 
> > created, but its folders are empty).
> > I've never had a problem installing it on my old computer (Intel processor).
> >
> > Do you know if it is a known problem?
>
> It should work, at least in theory. I'll check later today on our M1 machine.

It looks like mtx-update.lua doesn't properly recognise the platform.
This is something that Hans needs to fix inside the context sources.
(I'll try to patch it later, maybe I have some success.)

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Standalone does not works on macOS Monterey with Apple M2 chip

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 09:24, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote:
>
> Hello list,
>
> I'm trying to install ConTeXt Standalone on my Mac (macOS 12.6 Monterey and 
> Apple M2 chip) but at the end of the installation the ConTeXt-MkIV folder 
> (where I install Standalone) on the disk weighs only 7MB (the tex tree is 
> created, but its folders are empty).
> I've never had a problem installing it on my old computer (Intel processor).
>
> Do you know if it is a known problem?

It should work, at least in theory. I'll check later today on our M1 machine.
If that doesn't work, it should be some trivial problem (that should
be straightforward to fix).
If that works, it could be that "uname" reports something different
than "arm64" on M2. That should hopefully be easy to fix as well.

What does "uname -m" (and "uname -a") report on your mac?

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Re: [NTG-context] How to do code listings & sections from XML (AsciiDoc)

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 at 23:20, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022, Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context wrote:
>
> > (a) I don't know how to turn program listing (verbatim code) from xml
> > to (perhaps, vim-based) syntax highlighting (but most importantly, to
> > make sure that line breaks work properly)
>
> Does something like this work:
>
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Verbatim_XML

Yes, awesome, this does exactly what I want, thank you very much.

I used the following code:

\usemodule[vim]
% this breaks if directory doesn't exist before
\setupvimtyping[directory=output/]
% it would be potentially useful to have some predefined vimtyping
already present in the module
\definevimtyping
[programlisting]
[syntax=]

\startluacode
function xml.functions.processprogramlisting(t)
buffers.assign("listing","\\startprogramlisting[syntax=cpp]\n"
.. tostring(xml.text(t)) .. "\n\\stopprogramlisting")
context.getbuffer { "listing" }
end
\stopluacode

\startxmlsetups xml:programlisting
\pushcatcodetable
\setcatcodetable\ctxcatcodes
\xmlfunction{#1}{processprogramlisting}
\popcatcodetable
\stopxmlsetups


Now I need to get the "cpp" and "unnumbered" part processed
automatically, so that it will work for any language:

// test.cpp:
int main()
{
return 0;
}

which would then be transformed into

\startprogramlisting[syntax=cpp,numbering=no]
int main()
{
return 0;
}
\stopprogramlisting

For some reason the syntax highlighting doesn't work on the full
document, but it works inside the minimal example, so I still need to
investigate what's going on with the full document.



On an unrelated note:

I cannot make \startnarrow[middle=1cm] (or left=... for that matter)
produce any offset on the left. I was playing with the following
code, but the frame refuses to be shifted to the right

\setupvimtyping
[before={
\startnarrow[left=1cm,before={\blank[10pt]}]
\switchtobodyfont[8pt]
\startframed
[align=flushleft,
 background=color,
 backgroundcolor=gray,
 frame=off,
 leftframe=on,
 rulethickness=2pt,
 framecolor=darkgray,
 width=local,
 offset=1ex]},
  after={\stopframed\stopnarrow}]

Hello
\startprogramlisting[syntax=cpp,numbering=yes]
int main()
{
return 0;
}
\stopprogramlisting


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Re: [NTG-context] How to do code listings & sections from XML (AsciiDoc)

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 at 23:20, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022, Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Hans helped me out with some asciidoc processing a while ago.
> >
> > I played a bit further, but I'm currently facing two minor issues:
> >
> > (a) I don't know how to turn program listing (verbatim code) from xml
> > to (perhaps, vim-based) syntax highlighting (but most importantly, to
> > make sure that line breaks work properly)
>
> Does something like this work:
>
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Verbatim_XML

Yes, awesome, this does exactly what I want, thank you very much.

I used the following code:

\usemodule[vim]
% this breaks if directory doesn't exist before
\setupvimtyping[directory=output/]
% it would be potentially useful to have some predefined vimtyping
already present in the module
\definevimtyping
[programlisting]
[syntax=]

\startluacode
function xml.functions.processprogramlisting(t)
buffers.assign("listing","\\startprogramlisting[syntax=cpp]\n"
.. tostring(xml.text(t)) .. "\n\\stopprogramlisting")
context.getbuffer { "listing" }
end
\stopluacode

\startxmlsetups xml:programlisting
\pushcatcodetable
\setcatcodetable\ctxcatcodes
\xmlfunction{#1}{processprogramlisting}
\popcatcodetable
\stopxmlsetups


Now I need to get the "cpp" and "unnumbered" part processed
automatically, so that it will work for any language:

// test.cpp:
int main()
{
return 0;
}

which would then be transformed into

\startprogramlisting[syntax=cpp,numbering=no]
int main()
{
return 0;
}
\stopprogramlisting

For some reason the syntax highlighting doesn't work on the full
document, but it works inside the minimal example, so I still need to
investigate what's going on with the full document.



On an unrelated note:

I cannot make \startnarrow[middle=1cm] (or left=... for that matter)
produce any offset on the left. I was playing with the following
example, but the frame refuses to be shifted to the right

\setupvimtyping
[before={
\startnarrow[left=1cm,before={\blank[10pt]}]
\switchtobodyfont[8pt]
\startframed
[align=flushleft,
 background=color,
 backgroundcolor=gray,
 frame=off,
 leftframe=on,
 rulethickness=2pt,
 framecolor=darkgray,
 width=local,
 offset=1ex]},
  after={\stopframed\stopnarrow}]

Hello
\startprogramlisting[syntax=cpp,numbering=yes]
int main()
{
return 0;
}
\stopprogramlisting


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[NTG-context] How to do code listings & sections from XML (AsciiDoc)

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

Hi,

Hans helped me out with some asciidoc processing a while ago.

I played a bit further, but I'm currently facing two minor issues:

(a) I don't know how to turn program listing (verbatim code) from xml
to (perhaps, vim-based) syntax highlighting (but most importantly, to
make sure that line breaks work properly)

(b) some section titles are missing


Ad (a). The source that looks similar to this:


int main()
{
return 0;
}


should be converted into some kind of equivalent of

% on top
\usemodule[vim]
\definevimtyping [CPP] [syntax=cpp]

\startCPP
int main()
{
return 0;
}
\stopCPP

In the attachment I have the source document (test.adoc), the
generated docbook xml that should be further processed, and test.tex
that one processes to get the final pdf.

Any hints would be greatly appreciated.

Mojca


test.tex
Description: Binary data


test.adoc
Description: Binary data



http://docbook.org/ns/docbook; xmlns:xl="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; version="5.0" xml:lang="en">

Document title (completely missing)
2022-08-12


This title seems to be missing
Hello code 

How it works
// test.cpp:

halfword tex_copy_node(halfword p)
{
/*tex
We really need a stub for copying because mem might move in the meantime due to resizing!
*/
if (p  0 || p = lmt_node_memory_state.nodes_data.allocated) {
return tex_formatted_error("nodes", "attempt to copy an impossible node %d", (int) p);
} else if (p  lmt_node_memory_state.reserved  lmt_node_memory_state.nodesizes[p] == 0) {
return tex_formatted_error("nodes", "attempt to copy a free %s node %d", get_node_name(node_type(p)), (int) p);
} else {
/*tex type of node */
halfword t = node_type(p);
int i = get_node_size(t);
/*tex current node being fabricated for new list */
halfword r = tex_get_node(i);
/*tex this saves work */
memcpy((void *) (lmt_node_memory_state.nodes + r), (void *) (lmt_node_memory_state.nodes + p), (sizeof(memoryword) * (unsigned) i));
if (tex_nodetype_is_complex(i)) {
 // halfword copy_stub;
if (tex_nodetype_has_attributes(t)) {
add_attribute_reference(node_attr(p));
node_prev(r) = null;
lmt_properties_copy(lmt_lua_state.lua_instance, r, p);
}
node_next(r) = null;
switch (t) {
case glue_node:
copy_sub_list(glue_leader_ptr(r), glue_leader_ptr(p));
break;




m-asciidoc-manual.tex
Description: Binary data
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Re: [NTG-context] OpenBSD install

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

Dear Angel,

V pet., 13. maj 2022 08:15 je oseba Angel M Alganza via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> napisala:

> Hello,
>
> I've just started upgrading some systems to OpenBSD 7.1 (released last
> month) and found out there isn't a link to download LMTX for OpenBSD 7.1
> at https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation.
>

The wiki page was outdated. Can you please check again?
(My browser refuses opening http links from an https site, I'm not sure if
Hans configured https on his server.)


> I then thought I'd try to see if the previous versions (for 6.9 or 6.8)
> would work on 7.1, but it turned out that all four links (for both
> 32bits and 64bits) won't work.


At the moment we only support 7.0 and 7.1 (32-binaries are still there, but
unless someone needs them, we'll likely remove them).

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Re: [NTG-context] 32-bit OpenBSD

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

On Sat, 7 May 2022 at 22:37, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context
 wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Le 1/05/2022 à 11:01, Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> How long do we want/need to keep running the builders for 32-bit OpenBSD?
>
> It's taking 2 or 3 times longer to build binaries than for the 64-bit
> OS (not that this is super relevant since ppc builder is a whole order
> of magnitude slower anyway: building TL there takes about 6 hours) and
> I suspect that nobody is using those 32-bit binaries anyway.
>
> Mojca
>
> My portable is a 32-bit on which I am running Lubuntu 18.04;

But that's 32-bit Linux rather than 32-bit OpenBSD. I was explicitly
asking about OpenBSD only.

> but i didn't upgrade ConTeXt lmtx for long as, as I did understand, there is 
> no more new binaries.

We never (intentionally) stopped providing support for that.
Is something not working for you if you try to do a clean installation
(in another directory)?

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[NTG-context] 32-bit OpenBSD

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

Hi,

How long do we want/need to keep running the builders for 32-bit OpenBSD?

It's taking 2 or 3 times longer to build binaries than for the 64-bit
OS (not that this is super relevant since ppc builder is a whole order
of magnitude slower anyway: building TL there takes about 6 hours) and
I suspect that nobody is using those 32-bit binaries anyway.

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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

Hans,

I manually uploaded luametatex for arm64-darwin now.
Not that I actually checked anything.

Gavin, are you willing to try the binary from
https://dl.contextgarden.net/build/luametatex/arm64-darwin/
?

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Re: [NTG-context] New upload is DOA on my M1 Mac

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

> question for mojca: i see al getting compiled, even the vm on the mac
> but not the arm mac bin itself so is the main one listening to the
> master? : luametatex.darwin-arm64.moj stays inactive

I noticed that problem already before reaching the machine, but I
couldn't quite figure out what was wrong (I was too tired to debug
yesterday evening).

Python apparently keeps throwing some exceptions on the buildbot master.

Maybe I should just compile the binary and upload it manually for now.

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[NTG-context] Scheduled server downtime today

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

Hi,

One of our servers is going to have some (hopefully short) scheduled
downtime today around 15:00 UTC.

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Re: [NTG-context] Transliteration

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 at 21:41, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> > I have also merged the Serbian hyphenation patterns, so there is no need
> > to switch the language in order to have hyphenation in transliterated text.
> > That was possible because cyrillic and latin scripts use different code
> > points, and there are no conflicts in patterns.
> > So I suggest merging the patterns for Serbian cyrillic and latin.
>
> I'd like to hear Arthur / Mojca on that  we can of course load them
> both but if that is an upstream merge i'll wait for that

Yes, loading both patterns at once is definitely the correct approach.
That's what the rest of the TeX world already does (at least LuaTeX
and XeTeX; pdfTeX not of course), see

https://github.com/hyphenation/tex-hyphen/blob/master/hyph-utf8/tex/generic/hyph-utf8/loadhyph/loadhyph-sr-latn.tex

We have two sets of Cyrillic patterns (and several Latin ones as
well), so composing a single file was a bit of a (somewhat political)
challenge.
Now at least in theory the users are free to choose which of the two
sets of patterns they want.

I never checked what ConTeXt was doing with the Serbian patterns.
Personally I would suggest taking hyph-sh-cyrl.pat.txt and hyph-sh-latn.pat.txt.

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Re: [NTG-context] The certificate of the mailman site has expired

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 at 00:46, Ramkumar KB via ntg-context wrote:
>
> Taco,
>
> Chrome browser says R3 (in the certificate chain) has expired.
>
> See attached screenshot.

Are you using macOS <= 10.14?

I see Let's Encrypt mentioned and that one has been causing some
issues lately, partially due to a not-well-defined algorithm for
treating multiple certificates in the chain.

A bit more about the issue (very macOS-centric) can be read here:
https://trac.macports.org/wiki/ProblemHotlist#letsencrypt

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Re: [NTG-context] Update error on Raspberry Pi

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

Hi,

On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 23:28, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
> For some completely mysterious reason the new ISP's modem doesn't like
> the virtual machine running Debian 10 and I have no clue how to
> convince it to get network connectivity back.

Off-topic, but ... one hour afo the following comment was posted:
https://github.com/utmapp/UTM/issues/2280#issuecomment-945006193
and I discovered that an upgrade (still in beta) of the VM software
I'm using addressed two burning issues at the same time:
- they claim to have fixed some IPv6-related bug (and the network
magically works again)
- they now support auto-startup of VMs

So the situation with RPi support should hopefully become a tiny bit
better from this point on.
(Maybe the "old" modem, the one I received this summer, didn't have
proper IPv6 support.)

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Re: [NTG-context] Update error on Raspberry Pi

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

Hi,

On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 22:43, J. Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
>
> Looks like the pi bins and an osx one are behind (mojca then needs to kick 
> those vm's) ... I 'll check it tomorrow.

I'm sorry, the new binaries have been uploaded to the usual place
(Hans probably needs to regenerate the packages before they can be
used out-of-the-box again).

For some completely mysterious reason the new ISP's modem doesn't like
the virtual machine running Debian 10 and I have no clue how to
convince it to get network connectivity back.

(After reading the initial email from Luis I decided to try to connect
the main computer via my phone's hotspot and that worked, but I need
to find a permanent solution. Maybe I'll just set up some hardware
again. It's much slower than the VM, but better than not working at
all.)

Mojca

> Op 16 okt. 2021 15:12 schreef Luis Montgomery via ntg-context 
> :
>
> Hi,
> I try to update LMTX and the script sends me this error:
>
>
> resolvers   > lua > loading file 
> '/home/monty/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/spac-par.lmt' 
> succeeded
> tex error   > tex error on line 41 in file spac-par.mkxl: Undefined 
> control sequence \undefined
>
> 
>   + \shapingpenaltiesfrozenparcode
>
> 
> The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was 
> never
> \def'ed. You can just continue as I'll forget about whatever was undefined.
>
> What has changed here?
>
> L. Montgomery
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Re: [NTG-context] pgfplots module needs update from December

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

V ned., 22. avg. 2021 19:32 je oseba Gavin 
napisala:

>
> I am not sure what my next step should be. Should I wait a day for the
> system to do its fetching thing and then try the same instructions I
> followed before (https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules#ConTeXt_LMTX)?
>
> I know very little about these rsync commands. I’m just
> cutting-and-pasting into my command line.
>

Waiting won't help. Can you perhaps send full output of comping the sample
that you posted earlier? What OS and architecture do you use?

Mojca

>
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Re: [NTG-context] pgfplots module needs update from December

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

I used the latest commit from the git repository rather than the latest
release.

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Re: [NTG-context] pgfplots module needs update from December

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

V ned., 22. avg. 2021 18:13 je oseba Hans Hagen via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> napisala:

>
> it makes no sense to mojca to fix modules that come from elsewhere
> because a next time it might be different so when tikz is not updated on
> ctan (where it's fetched from) it's not an official fix
>

I didn't have to fix anything in the code, but the git repository was
moved, so the module wasn't kept up to date for a while. I just updated the
URL for fetching the latest sources.

Mojca

>
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Re: [NTG-context] pgfplots module needs update from December

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 17:46, Gavin  wrote:
>
> The instructions we followed for installing the modules are at
>
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules#ConTeXt_LMTX
>
> These instructions include the line
>
> rsync -rltv --del rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/modules/ 
> modules
>
> This does not seem to produce the same files as the 
> distribution.contextgarden.net address that you provided.

What's the main difference?
(Sure, you get all of the modules, not just TikZ. I somewhat suspect
that old files don't get deleted, so you may also end up with some old
files with the same name taking precedence and breaking the
functionality.)

> Should we be following different installation instructions?

I didn't test them, but the instructions seem more or less correct.

If you only need tikz (or just for testing with a fresh installation),
you could test with something similar to
rsync -av --delete
rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/modules/t-tikz/
path-to/texmf-modules/

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Re: [NTG-context] pgfplots module needs update from December

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 15:43, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
>
> usemodule[tikz]
> \usemodule[pgfplots]
> \usetikzlibrary[pgfplots.polar]
>
> \startTEXpage
>   \starttikzpicture
> \startpolaraxis
>   \addplot coordinates {(0,1) (90,1)
> (180,1) (270,1)};
> \stoppolaraxis
>   \stoptikzpicture
> \stopTEXpage

I tried a fresh installation of both MKIV and LMTX and both seem to
work fine for me, so sadly I cannot reproduce the problem.
(The files comes from rsync, from the same folder as shown here:
https://distribution.contextgarden.net/current/modules/t-tikz/)

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Re: [NTG-context] pgfplots module needs update from December

[Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context]

Dear Gavin,

On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 at 06:05, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
>
> The module pgfplots has a bug that produces an error for polar plots, and 
> perhaps in other situations.
>
> Is there anything I can do to aid in getting this fixed in the distribution?

Can you please try updating and checking again (at least with the
"legacy installer", I'm not sure how Hans handles the modules for
lmtx)?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem getting lmtx version up

[Mojca Miklavec]

Jdh,

Can you please try again with this binary?
https://dl.contextgarden.net/build/luametatex/aarch64-linux/

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 at 22:16, Alan Braslau wrote:
>
> Freebsd on arm64 is now a Tier 1 architecture. ;-)

I figured out that there are should-be-working-out-of-the-box images
for FreeBSD for RPi.
Maybe we just need to fetch another one for the farm ;)

I installed

https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/VM-IMAGES/13.0-RELEASE/aarch64/Latest/
inside
https://github.com/utmapp/UTM
but I had some issues figuring out how to install packages. Maybe
something for another weekend.

I also got Debian 10 working inside UTM and it resulted in pretty fast
compilation.
(I still need to set up automatic start-up after the power outage.)
Tests with Windows ARM64 come next. The installation procedure seems
to have started at least,
I guess that the support is much better now than what it used to be
when M1 got released.

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem getting lmtx version up

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

>   /opt/context-lmtx $ sudo sh ./install.sh
>   Error:   /opt/context-lmtx/bin/mtxrun: /lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6: 
> version `GLIBC_2.29' not found (required by /opt/context-lmtx/bin/mtxrun)

We need to set up an older linux distro for building 64-bit binaries
if we want to be "more compatible".

It doesn't help that it took forever for 64-bit Linux to start working
on RPi, and if one goes to
https://www.raspberrypi.org/software/operating-systems/#raspberry-pi-os-32-bit
they officially still offer just the 32-bit version. So we installed
whatever came to the market first, and so far this is probably the
second complaint on the mailing list.

Does this look like the correct place for fetching the images with Debian 10?

https://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspios_lite_arm64/images/raspios_lite_arm64-2021-05-28/

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Re: [NTG-context] contextgarden.net seems to be down

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 09:29, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 07:02, Vladimir Lomov wrote:
> >
> > host seems to be down.
>
> Thanks a lot for the notification.
>
> The machine isn't reachable over ssh either.
> I'll try to reach the people in the computing centre to take a look
> and will let you know once it's back.

The machine has been back for a while now.
Apparently there were some temporary issues with electricity.

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Re: [NTG-context] contextgarden.net seems to be down

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Vladimir,

On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 07:02, Vladimir Lomov wrote:
>
> According to page https://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone to install
> ConTeXt standalone (I assume MkIV) one has to download first-setup.sh script
> (Linux,Mac,*BSD) from contextgarden.net (minimals.contextgarden.net) but this
> host seems to be down.

Thanks a lot for the notification.

The machine isn't reachable over ssh either.
I'll try to reach the people in the computing centre to take a look
and will let you know once it's back.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Issue running ConTeXt from TeX Live 2019 on Alpine Linux 3.12

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 20:53, Nicola wrote:
>
> This installs and configures repos for Alpine Linux 3.12. Then,
> I install TeX Live as follows:
>
> apk add texlive-full texlive-xetex texlive-luatex texlive-dev
> apk add ghostscript ghostscript-fonts ghostscript-dev
> apk add graphicsmagick graphicsmagick-dev
>
> Then, I run `mtxrun --generate`, which exits instantly with the output
> reported below. However, that is apparently not enough. I still get:
>
> $ context Hello-world.tex
> mtxrun  | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'

This sounds like a missing or misconfigured texmfcnf.lua (which should
be next to texmf.cnf).
This would need to be handled by the distribution (Alpine Linux devs).

Can you try to locate both files and share the contents? (There may
also be multiple copies of them.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] "Scheduled" downtime of the contextgarden server

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

if all goes well, the server will hopefully be back some time tomorrow.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

Mojca

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 20:55, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
> Dear ConTeXters,
>
> There will be a "scheduled" downtime of the contextgarden.net server
> for maintenance reasons (the part that's hosted in Slovenia; that
> excludes wiki & modules, but includes the old distribution, buildbot
> CI, CTAN, TL pretest & w32tex mirror, ...) in one of the following
> days.
>
> It's not yet clear when exactly the downtime will happen (and all the
> lockdowns etc. make that even harder to predict) and I'm also not
> entirely sure how long it will take, this is just to give you a notice
> upfront.
>
> Mojca
>
> (PS: I hope that TL 21 won't need any further builds, else we can
> postpone this.)
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[NTG-context] "Scheduled" downtime of the contextgarden server

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear ConTeXters,

There will be a "scheduled" downtime of the contextgarden.net server
for maintenance reasons (the part that's hosted in Slovenia; that
excludes wiki & modules, but includes the old distribution, buildbot
CI, CTAN, TL pretest & w32tex mirror, ...) in one of the following
days.

It's not yet clear when exactly the downtime will happen (and all the
lockdowns etc. make that even harder to predict) and I'm also not
entirely sure how long it will take, this is just to give you a notice
upfront.

Mojca

(PS: I hope that TL 21 won't need any further builds, else we can
postpone this.)
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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 19:40, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 2/3/2021 7:09 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> >
> >> Am 03.02.2021 um 18:09 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts,
> now do we also need an interface to midi?
> >
> > Are you thinking about Knuth’s ĩTeX?
>
> That is way too ambitious, maybe more like TeX (but in order to suite
> tex/mp extreme precision we would have to support microtones which is
> not in midi so that immediate abandons the project). Of course, when
> Mojca had ever push for 流TeX I'd given it a try. Too late now.
>

I kept misusing Lilypond for generating the MIDIs, and either Timidity (and
something else that I forgot the name of, even though I think I packaged it
for MacPorts) or Arduino + RPi (with some python-based synthesizer) to
play them from the toy wood-laser-cut accordion.

Lilypond was a good-enough approximation / similar user experience as what
ConTeXt provides for typesetting text, which is why I never
requested support for music in ConTeXt. A good support for
\startlily
c d e f
\stoplily
and passing the work to lilypond should be more than enough (I have an
impression that I've already seen some code doing exactly that).
I always used full-page scores, so I didn't really need support for short
snippets either.

I got stuck (read as: never took the time to finish it) at lighting up a
led strip (with individually addressable colours, "neopixel"-like) at
predefined places on a musical instrument to aid learning how to play new
songs. (Someone who knows how to play could record a midi, then the
"student" would load the midi at reduced speed and hit the keys that have
been litten up.)

I'm not saying that ConTeXt wouldn't be helpful in the process, but you
would then ideally need some new backends for producing movies: video &
audio output ;)
I could surely use a metapost-drawn image of the instrument and fill the
keys that need to be pressed in the video output ;)

Anyway, reading midi is probably straightforward, but it really sounds like
a too limited feature unless one could use video/audio output or music
typesetting (which is hard enough and outside of scope of ConTeXt, I would
say).

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 15:37, Garulfo wrote:
>
> In oct 2020, a message proposed to create a GitHub/GitLab repository (or
> even organization) for this so that anybody can help translating it into
> other languages:
> https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2020/099789.html

If you want to see it under
https://github.com/contextgarden/
just propose the repository name and list the usernames for those who
should initially have access.

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation pattern for Esperanto

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Alain,

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 21:02, Alain Delmotte wrote:
>
> Hi Hans and Mojca,
>
> I join a file containing the list of patterns for Esperanto

This one shouldn't be needed unless you believe that there is an issue
with the existing patterns.

> and the definition/translation of the general words for titles, glossaries,...
>
> Now regarding the labels, how could I provide the translations? Should I add 
> a line with translation for each term (or the most important, I have seen 
> that the French labels are not all translated)?

Ideally take the latest version of lang-txt.lua, add a line for
esperanto for each translation and send it to Hans.

We ideally need them in a similar for as for other languages.

Feel free to provide additions for French as well. (I guess in that
case Hans will send the changes for proofreading to at least another
member.)

I'm not exactly up-to-date about what other settings might be needed
in addition, but translations inside lang-txt.lua sound like a good
starting point.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Off-topic: Struggles with LPEG grammar

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

Thanks to both Taco and Arthur for clarifying this and pointing out
the difference between PEG and PCRE.

I'll put some links like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsing_expression_grammar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl_Compatible_Regular_Expressions
on my reading list and try to understand it more thoroughly than I do
at the moment.
After that I'll probably need to re-read Taco's answer a couple more
times, and probably write some parsing grammar as an exercise, but
I'll eventually get there :)

Just a correction of my previous statement. The following doesn't
really work either:
lpeg.P('b') + lpeg.P('bb') + lpeg.P('bbb')
it just happened to work in one particular case on my minimal example,
but it doesn't help in general.
That's probably expected based on what Arthur and Taco explained to me.

> In your example, the fact that you even considered ^1 means that you were 
> still thinking too much in terms of regular expressions,

In reality it just means that I was trying to add a new rule to solve
the second part of the puzzle (hidden on the website until you solve
the first part), which read something like
6: 3 | 3 6
which would in theory be translated into something like
r6 = lpeg.V"r3" + lpeg.V"r3" * lpeg.V"r6",
if PEGs worked the way I imagined they worked, that is. Apparently they don't :)

It seemed so obvious, but it would be too easy if it was true ;),
so it will force me to solve it "ab initio" (as it was initially meant) anyway.

Thanks a lot to everyone for the extra patience to explain me those
basic principles & differences,
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Off-topic: Struggles with LPEG grammar

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Taco,

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 13:46, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> > On 21 Dec 2020, at 13:16, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> >
> > My only explanation would be that perhaps "^1" is so greedy that the
> > rest of the pattern doesn't get found. But I don't want to believe
> > that explanation.
>
> Which (of course) means that that is exactly what happens ;)
>
> The ones that match are
>
> ababbb (a (ba+bb) b) => r4 r1(r3(r5 r4) r2(r5 r5)) r5
> abbbab (a (bb+ba) b) => r4 r1(r2(r5 r5) r3(r5 r4)) r5
>
> With the ^1, in the “bb” cases the first “b” eats all three “b”s:
>
> ababbb fails the r5 at the end
>
> abbbab fails the first r2 already (since the second r5 therein never happens)

Is this a deliberate choice, a limitation of the grammar
expressiveness, some misuse on my side that could/should/needs to be
implemented in a different way, or does it count as a "bug" on the
lpeg side?

For example, I wouldn't expect a regexp "b+b" to fail on "bbb" just
because "b+" would eat all three "b"s at once (the regexp "b+b" in
fact finds "bbb", and I would expect a less-than-totally-greedy hit
with lpeg as well). Or is my reasoning wrong here?

It certainly works if I use
lpeg.P('b') + lpeg.P('bb') + lpeg.P('bbb') -- and a couple more
(as long as I can predict the maximum length)
but that's not really a viable workaround in general.

Thank you,
Mojca

PS: sorry, a tiny bug also crippled into my sample code. The line
after matching the 'parser1' should have used 'total1' rather than
'total':
if lpeg.match(parser1, s) then
total1 = total1 + 1
end
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[NTG-context] Off-topic: Struggles with LPEG grammar

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

I'm sorry for being slightly off-topic here, but this list might still
be the best place to resolve lpeg-related questions :)

0.) Disclaimer: the challenge that triggered this curiosity came from
Advent of Code 2020. In case you are taking part and you wan't to
avoid spoilers, please stop reading here! (You have been warned.)
https://adventofcode.com/2020/day/19

1.) My question: I don't understand why I cannot get ^1 to work "as
advertised". Isn't this supposed to mean "one or more occurences of
the pattern"? If I change "lpeg.P('b')" into "lpeg.P('b')^1" in the
example below, the strings that match the initial grammar no longer
match the modified grammar. (I would naively imagine that the secord
pattern would get more rather than less matches.)

2.) Background: Most definitely the task on that page is supposed to
be solved in a different way, but many people use Advent of Code as an
opportunity to learn a new programming language, and when I read the
task description, I wanted to figure out if I could solve it using the
cute little lpeg. My initial attempt worked correctly (at least to
solve the first puzzle), but then I realized that I cannot easily
change the pattern from "matches a letter b" into "matches any number
of b-s", and I fail to figure out why. Any hints would be greatly
appreciated.

Below is a not-so-minimal example. I can certainly try to reduce it
further, but I would first like to ask whether I'm doing something
obviously wrong by trying to replace
r5 = lpeg.P('b')
by
r5 = lpeg.P('b')^1
in order to allow more than one occurrences of the letter b?
My only explanation would be that perhaps "^1" is so greedy that the
rest of the pattern doesn't get found. But I don't want to believe
that explanation.


local lpeg = require "lpeg"

--[[
0: 4 1 5
1: 2 3 | 3 2
2: 4 4 | 5 5
3: 4 5 | 5 4
4: "a"
5: "b"
]]--

local parser = lpeg.P{
"r0";
r0 = lpeg.V"r4" * lpeg.V"r1" * lpeg.V"r5",
r1 = lpeg.V"r2" * lpeg.V"r3" + lpeg.V"r3" * lpeg.V"r2",
r2 = lpeg.V"r4" * lpeg.V"r4" + lpeg.V"r5" * lpeg.V"r5",
r3 = lpeg.V"r4" * lpeg.V"r5" + lpeg.V"r5" * lpeg.V"r4",
r4 = lpeg.P('a'),
r5 = lpeg.P('b'),
} * -1

local parser1 = lpeg.P{
"r0";
r0 = lpeg.V"r4" * lpeg.V"r1" * lpeg.V"r5",
r1 = lpeg.V"r2" * lpeg.V"r3" + lpeg.V"r3" * lpeg.V"r2",
r2 = lpeg.V"r4" * lpeg.V"r4" + lpeg.V"r5" * lpeg.V"r5",
r3 = lpeg.V"r4" * lpeg.V"r5" + lpeg.V"r5" * lpeg.V"r4",
r4 = lpeg.P('a'),
r5 = lpeg.P('b')^1, -- modified part that doesn't seem to work
  } * -1

strings = {
  "ababbb",
  "bababa",
  "abbbab",
  "aaabbb",
  "bbb",
};

local total = 0
local total1 = 0
for _, s in ipairs(strings) do
if lpeg.match(parser, s) then
total = total + 1
end
if lpeg.match(parser1, s) then
total = total + 1
end
end
print('total:', total, total1)


In this example, total=2, total1=0.
What I don't understand is why total1 is zero.

Thank you,
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Update luatex for linuxmusl-64 platform in standalone distribution

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 10:30, Martin Hasoň wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> would it be possible to update luatex for the linuxmusl-64 platform, please?

I updated the binary, testing/feedback would be appreciated.

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Re: [NTG-context] Install Problems with 64 bit ARM Linux

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Christian,

I remembered that I have an old Pine64 with Armbian 10 collecting dust
somewhere in a drawer.
I powered it up and it still works :) I guess we could build the binaries there.

Mojca
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[NTG-context] Adding syntax highlighting when typesetting from xml (asciidoc/docbook)

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

A while ago Hans provided an example of typesetting a document from a
docbook source.

I'm attaching an over-simplified version of the initial module (a
somewhat more complete version exists, but it still needs lots of
work) and a minimum working example with XML.

I'm not sure how to extend the xml parser to support typesetting from
something like this:


Hello World in C and ConTeXt
#include
stdio.h

int main()
{
printf("Hello, World!\n");
return 0;
}
\starttext
Hello world!
\stoptext


Maybe using the vim module would be the right approach here (since the
built-in parser only has support for a limited set of languages), but
I'm not exactly sure about the implementation to achieve that goal.

I started with

\startxmlsetups xml:programlisting
\dontleavehmode
\startframedtext[background=color,backgroundcolor=lightgray]
\obeylines
\tt
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopframedtext
\stopxmlsetups

but something more is needed to properly handle new lines and to
properly pass the text to vim, for example.

Any hints welcome.

Thank you,
Mojca



http://docbook.org/ns/docbook; xmlns:xl="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; version="5.0" xml:lang="en">

Syntax highlighting with AsciiDoc
2020-11-30


Hello World in C
#include stdio.h

int main()
{
printf("Hello, World!\n");
return 0;
}
\starttext
Hello world!
\stoptext



test-syntax-highlighting.tex
Description: Binary data


m-asciidoc-basic.tex
Description: Binary data


test-syntax-highlighting.adoc
Description: Binary data
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Re: [NTG-context] Install Problems with 64 bit ARM Linux

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Christian,

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 20:50, Christian Prim wrote:
>
> Is there a reason why the arm binaries for ARM Linux use version 2.29 of 
> glibc?

They are being compiled on a Raspberry PI which kind of lacks
first-class 64-bit support (or at least that was the case when we set
up a builder on our build farm, about 9 months ago). I don't remember
seeing anyone even request those binaries before, and this is the
first complaint I see about the glibc-too-new issue on aarch64 (it was
common on the Intel platform, but there we can easily build on Debian
8 or 9).

I believe the RPI is currently running some recent version of Ubuntu
(it was set up by Hans; I would need to check to be sure, but it could
well be that it's 20.04).

Judging from (random google hits)
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=243985
https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/latest-raspberry-pi-os-update-may-2020/
it could be that May 2020 (which is precisely 6 months ago, in any
case later than when the builder was set up) has brought some better
news, an OS image that wouldn't require so much hacking to get it set
up and running.

It's a pity that you didn't ask this question a few days ago, I
believe that Hans just reinstalled everything on that tiny device (SD
cards are a pain and like to wear out rather quickly if you keep
running build jobs and rewriting the same memory cells over and over
again; I thought we had set up an external disk properly, but well
...)

We could try again to get Debian 10 running on the RPI.

Alternatively we could cross-compile, of course, but that's a bit more
painful to set up, and RPI 4 is certainly amazingly fast.

> My actual debian buster installation is still on glibc-2.28. The x86_64 Linux 
> binaries also use the older 2.28-version which is widely used among many 
> distros. I would be very happy if I could install a 2.28-version on my ARM 
> Linux box. Else I have to compile my own glic... or my own mtxrun...

A luametatex binary is needed.

Out of curiosity: what hardware do you run your linux distro on?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] new upload

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 at 16:26, Keith McKay wrote:
>
> I was planning on getting the new entry level MAC min M1 with 8GB
> unified memory but I see that there will be no ConTeXt binaries for
> these new M1 chip Macs.

It's not that there will not be, it's just that none of us has
purchased a piece of hardware yet.

A few months back it was possible to purchase one, but:
- it was just a one year rental fee rather than the ability to purchase it
- definitely not available in my country
- one had to enrol to the payed developer program
- and then do a bunch of other bureaucracy (get some special business
number etc.)
- and it wasn't even guaranteed that you would get a device at the end

I was contemplating what to do this time around since 8 GB of memory
is not even sufficient to run a web browser, and the TeX Live hardly
fits on their drive :), but it should do the job purely as a build
machine. (Not that they have "none in stock", but I could smuggle one
from elsewhere as long as the postal services keep running ...)

> Would it be possible for a ConTeXt user like
> myself to build the binaries on my proposed new Mac? I'm not a computer
> professional.

There are three options:
- the existing Intel binaries should work just fine
- yes, you should be able to compile the binaries yourself
- we should eventually get hold of one device for our build farm, or
in the meantime just ask someone for the initial build which should
keep you covered for a while

Discussing when TeX Live will be available for arm is "out of
context". We should get those binaries working before TL 2021.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Linux installation issues (due to GLIBC dependency) - Solved!

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Ramkumar,

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 at 02:10, Ramkumar KB wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> This turned out to be an issue with the texmf-context.zip file version 
> mismatch. I updated to version 1.04 and was able to install successfully!
>
> However, I would like to contribute a section to Wiki on how to install 
> ConTeXt in Linux machines which does not have the proper GLIBC version. This 
> is especially true with RHEL 7.x versions - which is still the majority 
> installation in companies & institutions with RHEL subscription.

I'm sorry. We have VMs with an older version of Debian for building,
but those don't provide sufficiently recent build tools (cmake, git,
ninja build system, ... I believe that CMake was the main blocker, but
I'm no longer absolutely sure).

By far the easiest solution was to switch from Debian 8 to 9 (or
something like that, I should check the exact numbers) and you might
be the first one bringing the issue up. I was aware that switching to
a newer Debian version might have caused compatibility issues with
RHEL / CentOS. (Do you happen to have some matrix of glibc versions on
RHEL / CentOS?)

> The section will cover GLIBC 2.24 install, patchelf utility and the changes 
> needed to ConTeXt install scripts for such an installation.
>
> How can I go about contributing to the wiki?

Do you have trouble creating a new account on the wiki?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Adding built-in support for Serbian language

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Ivan,

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 at 11:32, Ivan Pešić wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I have recently started using ConTeXt.

Welcome!

> I've found that the distribution
> includes a proper (cyrillic) hyphenation file for Serbian language,

I would say that this needs to be changed/improved.
There's no reason why it wouldn't load both scripts at the same time
(at least for Unicode engines, which is the only thing that's
currently supported anyway).

This is what XeTeX loads, for example:

https://github.com/hyphenation/tex-hyphen/blob/master/hyph-utf8/tex/generic/hyph-utf8/loadhyph/loadhyph-sr-latn.tex#L25

\input hyph-sh-latn.tex
\input hyph-sh-cyrl.tex
That is: it loads both patterns at the same time.

Hans, would you be willing to merge two sets of hyphenation patterns together?
Alternatively maybe we could prepare hyph-sh.pat.txt on the hyph-utf8 side?
I'm actually not sure why we didn't do that already, but maybe it was
because we have two sets of cyrillic patterns and it has never been a
clear cut which ones to take.

The author of hyph-sh-[latn|cyrl] says that his patterns should work
universally for multiple languages (they are relatively old), but they
were initially only released for the Latin scripts. Later another
author wanted to have support for Cyrillic script and prepared his own
patterns (I'm no longer sure whether they were partially based on the
other ones) without the Latin alternative.

In Xe(La)TeX and Lua(La)TeX we use the "sh" patterns for both, for
consistency reasons, among others. (You likely want the same word to
be hyphenated in the same way in both scripts).

> but a complete language support is still not implemented. Therefore,
> I've added what I think is required, did some testing by putting changed
> files in my texmf-local, and the result looks fine.

Awesome, thank you.

> There is only one thing that requires a decision from the development team.
> Serbian language uses two scripts: cyrillic and latin. Context language
> codes are using 2 letters for identification. So I'm not sure how to
> include both scripts.

(Unless has plans to transliterate the translations on the fly :)
there should be two independent files. One should use the code sr-latn
and the other one sr-cyrl.

Two letter code simply doesn't work in this situation and we should
not even try to support one single script, or even attempt to decide
which one should be the default one. Both should be supported equally
well.

> What I'm sending now is a cyrillic script implementation, using the code
> "sr".
>
> It is trivial to generate (completely automatic) latin script version of
> these changes, once it is decided how to label it.

Would you be willing to also prepare the latin one then?
The codes should be sorted out by Hans (potentially with some help),
but we definitely want to use "sr-latn" and "sr-cyrl".

For the longer names there is some more freedom. LaTeX uses "serbianl"
and "serbianc", I think, but I believe we can come up with something
nicer.
Maybe something along the lines of the following?
\mainlanguage[serbian][script=latn]
or
   \mainlanguage[serbian-latin]
   \mainlanguage[serbian-cyrillic]
No clue, really.

Thank you,
Mojca

(PS: I would say that adding support for transliteration of the text
from one script to the other would be a really nice feature. Then you
could type your text for a book once and have it typeset in both
versions without any extra effort :)
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Re: [NTG-context] marvosym on the wiki

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Jairo,

On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 16:33, Jairo A. del Rio wrote:
>
> As for Martin Vogel's symbols, using
>
> \showfont[marvosym.ttf]
>
> instead seems to display the right symbols (PDF attached). I'm not sure 
> whether or not it will work in the Wiki.

Thank you very much for the hint.
Wolfgang already changed it on the wiki, thanks a lot to him as well.

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[NTG-context] marvosym on the wiki

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

Someone asked me a question about marvosym In LaTeX (I just pointed
him to the documentation), but then I checked the wiki and noticed
that the wiki page is showing latin modern for
\showfont[fmvr8x]

https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Symbols/mvs

What would be the correct syntax for the wiki nowadays?

Thank you,
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation pattern for Esperanto

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Alain,

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 13:44, Alain Delmotte wrote:
>
> I'd like to have hyphenation for Esperanto; it doesn't exist in ConTeXt but 
> exist in TeX/LaTeX.
>
> Would it be difficult to create the Esperanto file for ConTeXt?

The plain text version is already in the correct form:

https://github.com/hyphenation/tex-hyphen/blob/master/hyph-utf8/tex/generic/hyph-utf8/patterns/txt/hyph-eo.pat.txt
so it should be just a matter of Hans including the patterns in the
distribution.

Usually he asks for translations of basic strings (like "Chapter"
etc.) when adding support for a new language ;)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] How can I use ConTeXt from TeXLive2020 ?

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 09:43, Otared Kavian wrote:
>
> Hi Mojca,
>
> You are correct about not removing « by hands » parts of a package…
> The reason for which I wen to that extremity was that I wanted absolutely to 
> be sure to be able to run ConTeXt from TeXLive2020 in order to convince a few 
> colleagues to experiment it with TeXShop.
>
> If I type in the Terminal
> port installed 'tex*'
> the answer is:
> None of the specified ports are installed.
>
> I guess this is because after having solved the problem I met with installing 
> MacTeX2020, I had done:
> sudo port uninstall texlive-basic --follow-dependencies
> in order to uninstall ant TeX related package from Macports (I don't know how 
> thos packages were installed, maybe when I tried to use asymptote, and since 
> I couldn't use it from within ConTeXt I gave up…).

Yes, Asymptote definitely depends on texlive.
But I guess that John is open for some "bribery" to make Asymptote
work better with ConTeXt :)

Last time I tested (maybe that was a few years ago) it was certainly
possible to set context as the "backend engine".
What's missing is better integration though (to end up with almost as
good integration as metapost/metafun offers), and 3D with javascript
mousing support never worked either.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] How can I use ConTeXt from TeXLive2020 ?

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Otared,

On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 at 11:05, Otared Kavian wrote:
>
> Indeed following your suugestion, I removed the
> /opt/local/etc/texmf/
> directory, as well as all other tex related directories and files in 
> /opt/local/, and then installed again MacTeX2020.

There is usually an easier way: just ensure that path to MacTeX comes
before /opt/local/bin.

What does
port installed 'tex*'
return?

It's usually a somewhat bad idea to randomly delete a subset of files
installed by a package manager.

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Re: [NTG-context] Best way to create a large number of documents from database

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 21:11, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 4/17/2020 4:37 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
> > One of the interesting statistics.
> > I used a bunch of images (the same png images in all documents; cca.
> > 290k in total).
>
> It can actually make a difference what kind of png image you use. Some
> png images demand a conversion (or split of map etc) to the format
> supported by pdf. Often converting the png to pdf and include those is
> faster.

Thanks for the hint. But I tested it and it hardly makes any difference.
I had to make another batch for the archive (creating a single
document with 4k+ pages), and the full process ran in 10 minutes
(compared to cca. 2,5 hours to create individual documents). Just for
a test run I completely **removed** all the images and it only
accounted for some 10 or 20 seconds speedup. So the biggest overhead
still seems to be in warming up the machinery (which includes my share
of overhead for reading in the 1,3 MB lua table with all data entries)
and Taco's hint of using an external tool for splicing would have
probably scored best :)

I need to add that I'm extremely happy about the resource reuse
(mostly images). As I already mentioned before, individual documents
were 1,5 GB in total, and a badly written software would have created
an equally bad cumulative PDF, while ConTeXt generates a merely 17 MB
file with 4k+ pages. It's really impressive.

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Re: [NTG-context] updating mkiv

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 11:25, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 11:00, Otared Kavian wrote:
> >
> > Is the latest version of ConTeXt mkiv the following:
> > current version: 2020.01.30 14:13
> >
> > I am asking this because after running
> > sh firstsetup.sh
> > that is what I get.
>
> Maybe I messed something up when the zip names changed.
> Let me check.

... until I fix it, running
first-setup.sh --context=latest
should be a viable workaround.

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Re: [NTG-context] updating mkiv

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 11:00, Otared Kavian wrote:
>
> Is the latest version of ConTeXt mkiv the following:
> current version: 2020.01.30 14:13
>
> I am asking this because after running
> sh firstsetup.sh
> that is what I get.

Maybe I messed something up when the zip names changed.
Let me check.

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Re: [NTG-context] Best way to create a large number of documents from database

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 16:38, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 11:29, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> > > On 16 Apr 2020, at 11:12, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> > >
> > > I have been asked to create a few thousand PDF documents from a CSV
> > > "database" today
> >
> > In CPU cycles, the fastest way is to do a single context —once
> > run generating all the pages as a single document, then using
> > mutool merge to split it into separate documents using a (shell)
> > loop.
>
> Just to make it clear: I don't really need to optimize on the CPU end,

... says the optimist ... :) :) :)

> as the bottleneck is on the other side of the keyboard, so as long as
> the CPU can process 5k pages today, I'm fine with it :) :) :)

While the bottleneck was in fact at the other side of the keyboard
(preparation was certainly longer than the execution), it still took
cca 2,5 hours to generate the full batch.

(I'm pretty sure I could have further optimised the code, even though
1 second per run is still pretty fast [when I started using context it
was more like 30 seconds per run], it just adds up when talking about
thousands of pages. This greatly reminds me on the awesome speedup
that Hans achieved when rewriting the mplib code & the initial
\sometxt changes inside metapost which also lead to 100-fold speedups
as one no longer needed to start TeX a zillion times.)

While waiting I wanted to start being clever and do the processing in
the same folder in parallel (I have lots of cores after all), and
ended up calling a script with
context --N={n} --output=doc-{}.pdf template.tex
context --purge
only to notice much later that running multiple context runs in the
same folder (some of them compiling and some of them deleting the
temporary files) might not have been the best idea on the planet, many
documents ended up missing, and many corrupted. So I had to rerun half
of the documents.

One of the interesting statistics.
I used a bunch of images (the same png images in all documents; cca.
290k in total).

The generated documents were 1,5 GB in size. When compressed with
tar.gz, there was almost no noticeable difference between the
compressed and non-compressed data size (1,4 GB vs. 1,5 GB). But when
compressing with tar.xz, it compressed 1,5 GB worth of document into
merely 27 MB (a single document is 360 k).

The documents have been e-mailed out, but now they need to print hard
copies for archive. I'm happy I don't need to be the one printing and
storing that :) :) :)

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Re: [NTG-context] Best way to create a large number of documents from database

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 16:52, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 4/16/2020 4:38 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 11:29, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> >>> On 16 Apr 2020, at 11:12, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> >>>
> >>> One option is that I quickly draft a python script that creates a few
> >>> thousand TeX documents and compiles them individually, but it might be
> >>> easier if there was a way to just create a single template document
> >>> and then run something like
> >>> context --some-params --N=42 --output=document-0042.pdf template.tex
> >>> or something along those lines.
> >>
> >> If you want to go this route (and you may have to if not each record
> >> fits exactly within a single page),
> >
> > I do have one page per document. The more annoying part is having
> > strange document names that need more attention when mapping page
> > number -> name (I'm not saying this is not doable).
>
> so, don't make files:
>
> - write a tex file foo.tex
> - process it: context --batch --result=1 --once foo
>
> etc ... so, use --result for the target name and use the same input name

This works just perfect, thank you very much.

I now have template.tex and process it with
context --batch --result=doc-0042 --someparam=21a --once template
which generates precisely the desired doc-0042.pdf.

For the moment I'm simply using a combination of
\doifdocumentargument {someparam} {\getdocumentargument{someparam}}
from TeX and
environment.arguments
from within the lua code as suggested by Taco and you in the previous
email thread.

Where would be the best way to document this / under what wiki topic,
as I'm sure I'll need it again and forget until then unless I write it
down immediately? "Mail merge"? ;)

Thank you very much,
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Best way to create a large number of documents from database

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 11:29, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> > On 16 Apr 2020, at 11:12, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> >
> > I have been asked to create a few thousand PDF documents from a CSV
> > "database" today
>
> In CPU cycles, the fastest way is to do a single context —once
> run generating all the pages as a single document, then using
> mutool merge to split it into separate documents using a (shell)
> loop.

Just to make it clear: I don't really need to optimize on the CPU end,
as the bottleneck is on the other side of the keyboard, so as long as
the CPU can process 5k pages today, I'm fine with it :) :) :)

> > One option is that I quickly draft a python script that creates a few
> > thousand TeX documents and compiles them individually, but it might be
> > easier if there was a way to just create a single template document
> > and then run something like
> >context --some-params --N=42 --output=document-0042.pdf template.tex
> > or something along those lines.
>
> If you want to go this route (and you may have to if not each record
> fits exactly within a single page),

I do have one page per document. The more annoying part is having
strange document names that need more attention when mapping page
number -> name (I'm not saying this is not doable).

> browse back a day or so in the mailing
> list archive for Gerben’s question about
>
>   “Using command line values in a TeX document; writing a script?"

Thanks a lot for the pointer. I didn't have that much time to read
through all the emails recently, I only noticed that he was super
actively working on some metapost stuff, I wasn't paying attention to
this.

> The replies offer various options using either lua or tex code
> to get at user-supplied arguments from the commandline.

Let me see what I come up with, I'm stil fiddling with data & layout
at the moment :)

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[NTG-context] Best way to create a large number of documents from database

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

I have been asked to create a few thousand PDF documents from a CSV
"database" today (which I can easily transform into any other form,
like XML or a lua table or TeX definitions or whatever).

Generating a few thousand pages would be straightforward, but I'm sure
there are some clever ways to handle this scenario as well, I'm just
not aware of them :)

One option is that I quickly draft a python script that creates a few
thousand TeX documents and compiles them individually, but it might be
easier if there was a way to just create a single template document
and then run something like
context --some-params --N=42 --output=document-0042.pdf template.tex
or something along those lines.

What's the best approach with the existing functionality? I would be
more than grateful for any hints.

Thank you very much,
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Re: [NTG-context] How to make page break & headers in XY arrangements?

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 13:21, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 3/30/2020 1:03 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> >
> > % I want an actual page break here
> > \page
>
> a rather stipid solution:
>
> \dorecurse{15}{\page[empty]}

I did think of this one (and actually did it for the batch that I had
to print today).
But it involves manual counting and when data changes, the file needs
to be adjusted every time.

Anyway, this is relatively low priority. If there is no mechanism for
this in place already, there's no need to add anything new. I can live
with a few manual adjustments, and I guess I could do something based
on current page number modulo total subpages as well.

Thank you,
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[NTG-context] How to make page break & headers in XY arrangements?

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

Stupid question: what's the proper way to introduce an actual page
break and put some header on the paper holding the XY arrangement of
smaller pages?

I know I can create the second document which includes the first one
and adds page numbers on top, but I'm sure there's a more elegant way
to achieve the same.

Thank you,
Mojca

\setuppapersize
[XY][A4]
\setuppaper
[topspace=10mm,backspace=10mm,dx=0mm,dy=0mm,nx=5,ny=13]
\setuplayout
[page]
[topspace=2mm,backspace=2mm]
\setuplayout
[page]
\setuplayout
[location=middle]
\setuparranging
[XY]
\showframe
\setupbodyfont
[8pt]

\def\somecontent#1{\startpagemakeup #1 \stoppagemakeup}

\starttext

% I want to mark the page with label numbers
\setupheadertexts[1][1][1][1]%
\dorecurse{50}{\somecontent{Label ONE}}

% I want an actual page break here
\page

\setupheadertexts[2][2][2][2]%
\dorecurse{70}{\somecontent{Label TWO}}

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Re: [NTG-context] Question to installation ConTeXt from TeXlive

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 13:28, Tomas Hala wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> when one (eg. student) decides for customizing the Windows installation from 
> TeXlive,
> 24 items will appear in the group of packages list.
>
> Because I have no experience with W. installations, I would like to ask
> which of them are relevant or possible to use with ConTeXt MkIV (on W.).
> (The aim is not to install unusable stuff.)

Pick the ConTeXt scheme.

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Re: [NTG-context] new lmtx beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Hans,

On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 at 19:39, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> I uploaded a new beta (mostly lmtx).

Thanks a lot.
What about musl binaries?

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Re: [NTG-context] LMTX for alpine linux (musl)

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 14:42, Martin Hasoň wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would like use the LMTX in alpine linux (musl). Is this version planned to 
> be prepared?

What's the oldest version of Alpine that we would want to support?

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Re: [NTG-context] Adjust kern for one character

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 at 22:28, Henri Menke wrote:
> On 12/23/19 10:19 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:
> > List,
> >
> > Is there a way in ConTeXt to adjust the left-side kern for one
> > character?
>
> No, kerns always come in pairs.

Bounding boxes come per-character, though ;)
I'm not familiar with details, but I would guess that it might be
possible to change the bounding box of a character on the fly.

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Re: [NTG-context] problem with a new installation of LMTX

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 00:35, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 12/8/2019 12:20 AM, Jeong Dal wrote:
> > Dear Hans, Otared,
> >
> > Thank you for your concern.
> >
> > The version of luametatex is 20191206.
> > I followed what Otared said, but texmf-cache is not created after mtxrun.
> >
> > "context —make"  is running, but no format.
> >
> > I checked folders after the installation.
> > Folders, texmf-cache, texmf-fonts, texmf-local, texmf-modules, 
> > texmf-project are empty.
> > texmf folder contains {fonts,metapost, tex,web2c}
> > texmf-context folder contains {colors,context,doc}
> > However, I couldn’t find base files, script files, etc.
> > Is it normal? Is it related with Catalina?
> I have no clue. Normally there is a check if directories can be accessed
> and written to, so where then do these files go to?
>
> I fear that other mac users have to help (no new mac here). Maybe Mojca
> knows as she knows all there is to know.

I replied in another thread.

Catalina has way stricter security requirements and it's getting
increasingly more difficult to do workarounds.
(Using rsync might help to circumvent some of the troubles. For now, at least.)

I'm somewhat reluctant to install Catalina on my machine until I need
to (maybe in a VM).

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Re: [NTG-context] problem with a new installation of LMTX

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 17:35, Alan Braslau wrote:
>
> On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 12:15:26 +0100
> Otared Kavian  wrote:
>
> > but otherwise as Floris suggests in his response, maybe we have to abandon 
> > MacOS in the near future…
>
> No, simply we need to adapt our procedures (installation scripts) to be 
> compatible with MacOS policy.

One way that (still?) works is using rsync instead of fetching via http.
One very simple way to quickly offer a working solution would be to
offer the installer via rsync.

Adapting our procedures to meet Apple's security requirements would
take quite some effort (as well as paying a fee to Apple) to set up
the automatism and send all binaries for notarization.

See
https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb40-2/tb125koch-harden.pdf
for an extensive description of what approximately is needed.
But note that the article's author needs to perform this roughly once
per year (that's very far from actually being one-off task as there
are many rounds to do), while we would need to make it work on regular
basis (ideally fully automated). And MacTeX already comes as an
official installer (pkg), while we don't have any app wrapper for
ConTeXt yet.

But in any case we need to wikify the procedure for LMTX. I thought
someone described a working workaround not that long ago? (I'm not
sure who, but searching for Catalina should provide some hits.)

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt as a service

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 16:40, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> > Am 2019-11-23 um 15:14 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
> > On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 13:02, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> >>> Am 2019-11-23 um 08:12 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
> >>>>
> >>>> Then you can use one of the online JS editors like CKeditor.\
> >>>
> >>> Only if you spend an enormous amount of effort making sure that the
> >>> code is properly cleaned up rather than containing a gazillion random
> >>> html style tags which you can never reconstruct back into some
> >>> structured form.
> >>>
> >>> (And yes, my impression is that Massi spent a huge amount of effort in
> >>> configuring the editor and cleaning up the mess. My company didn't and
> >>> ended up with sometimes literally every word in a sentence using a
> >>> different font size or style. They gave up on html + cke pretty soon,
> >>> but couldn't be convinced that this was a bad idea upfront.)
> >>
> >> Don’t exaggerate. Or maybe your company didn’t think about which tags are 
> >> really necessary.
> >> A proper configuration that doesn’t allow nonsense, even if users paste 
> >> text from Word documents, is not such a big effort.
> >
> > I'm not exaggerating, I would gladly be convinced/proved that I'm
> > wrong. How much effort (expressed in hours or days) do you think is
> > needed to implement the following?
>
> Oh, IMO that wishlist is very demanding. I’d say it’s more or less impossible 
> with any HTML editor.

So where do we stand with "you are exaggerating, it's really simple",
then? How many hours to configure it? ;)

(ConTeXt has no problems doing all that, and asciidoc as potential
input format supports all the required features as well; if a nice
translation layer is defined, one can get both awesome html out of the
box as well as high quality PDF. I'm just saying that I find MCE
somewhat useless. Whether or not that's exaggerating ... still waiting
to be proven wrong.)

> The JS editors I know of allow for custom menus, and it should be easy to 
> setup special divs for these warning sections.
> I don’t know any good table or formula editors/plugins, though. I’m not up to 
> date, but I guess with a graphical/“WYSIWYG” tool you’ll never get perfectly 
> structured input and will never be able to address finer details of 
> typography, esp. WRT math.

Well ... both Word and Open/LibreOffice do a pretty decent job w.r.t
math nowadays, MathJax is awesome, and I've also seen some awesome
javascript apps allowing you to edit equations. So it's not
impossible. Just not that straightforward ...

I'm not saying that I really need a WYSIWYG editor. Anyone who's
supposed to enter correct complex formulas should be able to learn
some basic markup language (I guess).

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt as a service

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On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 13:02, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> > Am 2019-11-23 um 08:12 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
> >>
> >> Then you can use one of the online JS editors like CKeditor.\
> >
> > Only if you spend an enormous amount of effort making sure that the
> > code is properly cleaned up rather than containing a gazillion random
> > html style tags which you can never reconstruct back into some
> > structured form.
> >
> > (And yes, my impression is that Massi spent a huge amount of effort in
> > configuring the editor and cleaning up the mess. My company didn't and
> > ended up with sometimes literally every word in a sentence using a
> > different font size or style. They gave up on html + cke pretty soon,
> > but couldn't be convinced that this was a bad idea upfront.)
>
> Don’t exaggerate. Or maybe your company didn’t think about which tags are 
> really necessary.
> A proper configuration that doesn’t allow nonsense, even if users paste text 
> from Word documents, is not such a big effort.

I'm not exaggerating, I would gladly be convinced/proved that I'm
wrong. How much effort (expressed in hours or days) do you think is
needed to implement the following?
(Any existing opensource solution may be used as the basis.)

My wishlist is not that demanding:
* allow generating both printable documents on white background, as
well as black slides with mostly white text (PDF as well as browsable
HTML website)
* support advanced mathematical formulas
* some sections or words do need to have some special markings (for
example apply some colours or bold/italic; the colour of course needs
to depend on background colour)
* tables need to be styled according to white the designer specifies,
but it should be very easy to change the table style after some months
* support consistently styled "CAUTION: ..., WARNING: ..., NOTE: ..."
sections inside the text (make it trivial to change the style of how
these are printed out after some months)
* support table of contents, nice front page etc.
* support vector images for PDFs

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt as a service

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 10:05, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
>
> Am 2019-11-22 um 09:46 schrieb Mojca Miklavec 
> :
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 08:51, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:
> >>
> >> I am very interested in running ConTeXt as a service, too. I am still
> >> nurturing the idea of a publishing cooperative for self publishers with
> >> a Markdown --> Pandoc --> ConTeXt workflow with a nice web frontend. I
> >> hope to make it to the next ConTeXt meeting to discuss it.
> >
> > If you want to start from a simple markup language, at least go for
> > asciidoc or restructured text.
> > Markdown is a mess for anything but very very very trivial structure,
> > and very very soon you basically end up with "basically ugly html with
> > some embeded plain text every now and then".
> >
> > There is some proof-of-concept test document which goes via the
> >asciidoc --[asciidoctor]--> docbook (xml) --[context]--> pdf
> > path (but it needs more work to be fully useful).
>
> Wouldn’t it make sense to go (X)HTML->ConTeXt?
>
> Then you can use one of the online JS editors like CKeditor.\

Only if you spend an enormous amount of effort making sure that the
code is properly cleaned up rather than containing a gazillion random
html style tags which you can never reconstruct back into some
structured form.

(And yes, my impression is that Massi spent a huge amount of effort in
configuring the editor and cleaning up the mess. My company didn't and
ended up with sometimes literally every word in a sentence using a
different font size or style. They gave up on html + cke pretty soon,
but couldn't be convinced that this was a bad idea upfront.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt as a service

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 08:51, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:
>
> I am very interested in running ConTeXt as a service, too. I am still
> nurturing the idea of a publishing cooperative for self publishers with
> a Markdown --> Pandoc --> ConTeXt workflow with a nice web frontend. I
> hope to make it to the next ConTeXt meeting to discuss it.

If you want to start from a simple markup language, at least go for
asciidoc or restructured text.
Markdown is a mess for anything but very very very trivial structure,
and very very soon you basically end up with "basically ugly html with
some embeded plain text every now and then".

There is some proof-of-concept test document which goes via the
asciidoc --[asciidoctor]--> docbook (xml) --[context]--> pdf
path (but it needs more work to be fully useful).

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Re: [NTG-context] developer not verified error

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Alan,

On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 at 22:37, Alan Bowen  wrote:
>
> Though I was able to download the latest ConTeXt beta without any problems, 
> my attempt to update my ConText-LMTX installation was blocked. The error 
> message was
>
> “mtxrun” cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified
>
> macOS cannot verify that this app is free from malware.
>
> Safari downloaded this file on April 29, 2019.

Thanks a lot for the report, but I'm tripple-confused now.

First I thought that we would have troubles with the binaries as soon
as GateKeeper was introduced (not sure which macOS version started
causing troubles), but somehow there were none, which at least came as
a pleasant surprise to me. Maybe this has to do with the fact that
anything running inside Terminal has somewhat higher permissions than
regular app bundles. (I know that Audacity doesn't allow recording
unless you run it from the Terminal, for example.)

What confuses me most though is how the beta can work, while lmtx
doesn't. I have an impression that when you download something with
Safari as opposed to downloading with rsync, Safari simply "attaches"
something to the files automatically, marking them as "unsafe", and
unzipping doesn't really help either.

The difference between the usual context distribution and lmtx is that
lmtx usually starts by downloading it from the web (and also
transferring everything in a different way).

>  I am not sure why this is happening and wonder if it would OK to copy mxtrun 
> from my ConTeXt installation and replace the version in my ConTeXt-LMTX 
> installation with it.

I didn't look closely, but if mtxrun is just a symlink to luametatex,
can you maybe try to run

rsync -av \
rsync://contextgarden.net/builds/luametatex/x86_64-darwinlegacy/luametatex \
some/local/path/luametatex

to fetch luametatex and try to use that one? (You may try to make
mtxrun a symlink to it, or its copy.)

I'm curious if that will work. I don't yet dare to upgrade to Catalina
(in some ways the OS is worse with each new version).

If it doesn't work, we'll need to figure out how exactly to do the
notarisation (including paying 100 USD per year, which sounds stupid
enough from principle alone), and in any case we need to find a way to
make lmtx work for everyone.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Error during installation of LMTX

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 20:04, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:
>
> I tried to update or install LMTX today and get this error:
>
> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.29' not found
> (required by /home/juh/context-linux-64/bin/mtxrun)
>
> I am running debian 10 buster.

This could be related to Hans updating the Ubuntu version on WSL on
his computer recently (if that's the source of the distributed
binaries).

We do have binaries on
http://dl.contextgarden.net/build/luametatex/x86_64-linux/
which should work on Debian 9 (cmake on Debian 8 is too old and it
would require a bit more tricks to support the version that old), but
I'm not sure what you need to do to use them as a drop-in replacement
during "bootstrapping" phase.

This should probably be answered by Hans.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Error: your system "Linux aarch64" is not supported yet.

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 00:49, luigi scarso  wrote:
>
> ..but aarch is in texlive already from  while ...

Having it in TL is usually not sufficient, we should usually be able
to build it ourselves to get the latest version of luatex etc. (But I
could use the binaries from TL as a starting point.)

That's either cross-compiling, but probably easier to simply put some
proper hardware in place, so that we can also run the test suite.

I was thinking of getting hold of another Raspberry and trying to
install a 64-bit system on it. Or maybe dig out my super old Pine64
and build on that one. Nobody ever asked for binaries, so we were not
in a hurry.

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Re: [NTG-context] OpenBSD install broken

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Robert,

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 01:09, Robert Krug wrote:
>
> Now, to the reason for this note. I recently tries to install context on an 
> OpenBSD 6.5 AMD64
> system, but the install failed. Thanks to some helpful emails in the archives 
> from 2017 and 2018,
> I was able to get this working by editing mtxrun and mtx-update.sh.

This would be really nice to fix eventually.

Hans, we do have all the required files:
https://distribution.contextgarden.net/setup/openbsd6.5/
https://distribution.contextgarden.net/setup/openbsd6.5-amd64/
...
https://distribution.contextgarden.net/current/bin/luatex/openbsd6.5-amd64/
...
but the problem is that mtxrun knows the platform under the name of
"openbsd-amd64" rather than "openbsd6.5-amd64".


The first-setup.sh script already correctly recognizes the name by
doing the following:

system=`uname -s`
case "$system" in
OpenBSD)
version=`uname -r`
platform="openbsd${version}-amd64" ;; # for 64-bit one; a
separate call for 32-bit of course

while mtxrun "ignores" the version name, but also ignores the
parameter being passed as

mtxrun --script bin/mtx-update.lua --platform=openbsd6.5-amd64

> I include what I did below.

Thanks.

> 1) Do the usual:
>
>   mkdir context && cd context
>   rsync -ptv rsync://contextgarden.net/standalone/setup/first-setup.sh .
>   ./first-setup.sh
>
> This will silently fail, because
> bin/mtx-update.lua
> bin/mtxrun
> do not recognize openbsd.
>
> 2) Edit bin/mtxrun:
>
> We need to define a "good" version of resolvers.platform(t,k)
> At line 4049, there is a default definition. Replace it with:
>
>  function resolvers.platform(t,k)
>   local platform="openbsd6.5-amd64"
>   os.setenv("MTX_PLATFORM",platform)
>   os.platform=platform
>   return platform
>  end

It would be ideal to fix this properly instead, for everyone else.
This is a good recipe for a workaround, but we need something better.

In my opinion this might be best to maybe even fix inside luatex
sources themselves.

> 6) Finally, the setuptex script gives me an error message:
>
>   megaera$ . /home//Context/tex/setuptex
>   /bin/ksh: /home//Context/tex/setuptex[163]: ${.sh.file}": bad 
> substitution
>
> but it is not hard to set the path correctly:
>
>   PATH=$PATH\:/home//Context/tex/texmf-openbsd6.5-amd64/bin ; export 
> PATH

This is something that I need to fix independently in the installation
script. Do you have any clue what could be done to make it work
properly on OpenBSD?

Mojca

PS: Hans, for some reason the 32-bit virtual machine for OpenBSD 6.5
seems broken in a bad way (I doesn't even reach the login screen), no
clue what's wrong, and I don't have extensive experience with OpenBSD
either. I could keep investigating, but I'll probably simply end up
setting up a fresh one. It would be helpful to maybe do some disk
health checks on the server, just in case.
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Re: [NTG-context] texexec is deprecated?

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 13:42, Jon Wong  wrote:
>
> I was able to use `context’ but not `texexec’. The latter (`texexec —pdf 
> test.tex’) tells me that some format file (`cont-en.fmt’) can’t be found.
>
> Is `texexec’ obsolete?

texexec is only for Mark II (8-bit pdfTeX, XeTeX) which has been
frozen for years now.
lmtx is only for Mark >= IV (new version of LuaTeX), so texexec no
longer makes sense there and anything needed to run it is also
missing.

Support is only provided for Mark IV and later.

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Re: [NTG-context] currently supported platforms

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 at 12:51, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>
> I.e., I replaced OpenBSD 6.3 and 6.4 with 6.5 and added CygWin and Linux MUSL.

I have no idea why 6.4 is not on the list (binaries are being built).
Cygwin is not really supported, it's just a hack that uses the regular
windows binaries.

> Is "Alpine" correct for MUSL?

Maybe.

> There are additional versions win32 and win64 - what’s the difference
> to mswin? Are those also from W32TeX?

win32 = mswin (I was probably hoping to convince Hans one day to
change the name)

> In the wiki it says kfreebsd would be still supported via Debian - is
> this still true?

No clue. Probably nobody ever tested for ages.

> BTW is there any chance to get "first-setup.sh --context=date" back?

It has never been removed, but in the past Hans would put a new
current online every few days. We need to officially switch to
git-based solution to support that.

Mojca
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[NTG-context] circuitikz update with ConTeXt fixes

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

I recieved this via CTAN updates.

Any volunteers for testing?

(Using --modules=all or --modules=t-tikz should automatically give you
the latest version.)

Mojca


On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 12:00,  wrote:
>
> Romano Giannetti submitted an update to the
>
> circuitikz
>
> package.
>
> Version:  0.9.2 2019-06-21
> License:  lppl gpl
>
> Summary description:  Draw electrical networks with TikZ
>
> Announcement text:
> --
>
>  This is basically a bug-fix release for ConTeXt following 0.9.1.
>  Release 0.9.2 (2019-06-21)
>
>   - (hopefully) fixed ConTeXt compatibility. Most new functionality is not 
> tested;
>  testers and developers for the ConTeXt side are needed.
>   - Added old ConTeXt version for 0.8.3
>   - Added tailless ground
>
>  Release 0.9.1:
>
>- Added old LaTeX versions for 0.8.3, 0.7, 0.6 and 0.4
>- Added the option to have inline transformers and gyrators
>- Added rotary switches
>- Added more configurable bipole nodes (connectors) and more shapes
>- Added 7-segment displays
>- Added vacuum tubes by J. op den Brouw
>- Made the open shape of dcisources configurable
>- Made the arrows on vcc and vee configurable
>- Fixed anchors of diamondpole nodes
>- Fixed a bug (#205) about unstable anchors in the chip components
>- Fixed a regression in label placement for some values of scaling
>- Fixed problems with cute switches anchors
>
> --
>
> The package’s Catalogue entry can be viewed at
>https://ctan.org/pkg/circuitikz
>
> The package’s files themselves can be inspected at
>http://mirror.ctan.org/graphics/pgf/contrib/circuitikz/
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Re: [NTG-context] context standalone installation broken

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

Massimiliano, thanks for confirming that it works again and I'm sorry
for the inconvenience.

For a strange/unknown reason the SVN checkout got into an inconsistent
state (claiming checksum mismatch), so I started doing some magic to
get it back to a consistent state. In the meantime some files were
removed and the minimals sync (done every 15 minutes or so) was
triggered in the meantime.

(I have never seen a similar error in the past, and git seems to work
more reliably in such cases.)

If anything still sounds abnormal, please let me know.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] context standalone installation broken

[Mojca Miklavec]

Something broke with svn updates of TeX Live.

I'm looking into it.

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Re: [NTG-context] adjusting tikz pictures

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 16:23, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> > Ideally someone should fix Geogebra to allow outputting
> > ConTeXt-friendly TikZ images.
>
> or just efficient metapost

Oh, sure! (That might require a bit more work, but probably worth
doing if someone wants to go that way.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] adjusting tikz pictures

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 12:51, Gour wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I believe that using GeoGebra for drawing, exporting to TikZ is the most
> approachable method for me to be able to create mathematic-related
> material like exams for the children in the primary school, but need some
> info how to adjust GeoGebra's TikZ output (suitable for LaTeX) for
> ConTeXt?

Ideally someone should fix Geogebra to allow outputting
ConTeXt-friendly TikZ images.

The differences should be small enough that this should be doable.

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[NTG-context] Fwd: Announcing Season of Docs 2019

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

This is just to let you know that Google started accepting applications for
organisations that want to participate in "Google season of docs", offering
stipends to technical writers to work full time on improving documentation
of open source projects.

See also a list of sample ideas:
https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/project-ideas
(but maybe some improvement of the writing tools could also count, I don't
know).

Participation is not limited to students this time.

Is any of the TeX user groups interested in participating?

Mojca


-- Forwarded message -
From: 'sttaylor' via Google Summer of Code Mentors List
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 23:32

We’re delighted to announce the inaugural year of Season of Docs, a Google
program that fosters collaboration between open source projects and
technical writers. Season of Docs is similar to Summer of Code, but with a
focus on open source documentation and technical writers. Details are on
our website: g.co/seasonofdocs
.

Would you like to take part as an open source mentor in the inaugural year
of Season of Docs? Open source organizations can start thinking now about
the projects you’d like a technical writer to work on. Take a look at
the examples
of project ideas
. Reach
out to your community members to see who’d like to be a mentor for Season
of Docs. As a mentor, you don’t need technical writing skills. Instead,
you're a member of the open source organization who knows the value of good
documentation and who is experienced in open source processes and tools.
See the guidelines on working with a technical writer
.
Organization applications open on April 2, 2019. See the full timeline
 on the Season
of Docs website.

>From April 30, Technical writers can explore the list of participating open
source organizations and their project ideas. Technical writers bring their
skills in designing and developing documentation to the open source
organization. Technical writer applications open on April 30. The list of
accepted technical writing projects is announced on July 30.

Please do tweet and blog about Season of Docs if you’d like to share the
news. We want as many people to know about it as possible. We’ve provided
logos that you can download and some example content on the press page
.

We’re looking forward to an exciting pilot of the Season of Docs program!

If you have any questions about the program, please email us at
season-of-docs-supp...@googlegroups.com.

Best regards

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Re: [NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX

[Mojca Miklavec]

V tor., 2. apr. 2019 19:35 je oseba Paul Hoffman 
napisala:

> It doesn't work for me:
>
> 
> # sh install.sh
> /usr/local/lmtx/bin/mtxrun: /lib/libm.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.23' not found
> (required by /usr/local/lmtx/bin/mtxrun)
>

This should be fixed once we set up the automatic builds on the build farm.

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Re: [NTG-context] follow up

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 15:19, Floris van Manen wrote:
>
> H.
>
> > We have worked furiously all day kicking-out extra code, and are pleased to 
> > present a lean-and-mean version of luatex with your favorite ConTeXt. Same 
> > good taste but only half the calories and a new name: luametatex and 
> > ConTeXt LMTX. No more Mk-whatever, no more dependencies for we can now 
> > stand on our own. Of course, good-old luatex and MkIV (as well as MkII) 
> > will continue to coexist and be maintained. However, now you will be able 
> > to run ConTeXt lmtx on your smart thermostat or on your refrigerator for 
> > the Internet of Things - the dawn of a new era!
>
> That sound like a very good thing indeed !
> Is it available for download already?

I would have already published the link on the server in Slovenia, but
it seems that there was a bug on the thermostat in the server room (I
was apparently too exhausted yesterday to properly test before I fell
in bed) which lead to some hardware failures. You'll probably need to
wait for another server to be set up. I hope the delay won't be too
long. (I'm really sorry for the inconvenience.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live 2019: attempt to call a nil value (upvalue 'isfile')

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 08:50, luigi scarso wrote:
>
> $> context luatex
>  mkiv lua stats  > used platform: linux-64, type: unix, binary subtree: 
> texmf-linux-64
> mkiv lua stats  > used engine: luatex version 1.1 with functionality level 
> 7088, banner: this is luatex, version 1.10.0 (tex live 2019)
> mkiv lua stats  > control sequences: 53180 of 65536 + 10
> mkiv lua stats  > lua properties: engine: lua 5.3, used memory: 441 MB (ctx: 
> 437 MB), hash chars: min(64,40), symbol mask: utf (τεχ)
> mkiv lua stats  > runtime: 21.608 seconds, 294 processed pages, 294 shipped 
> pages, 13.606 pages/second
> system  | total runtime: 47.547 seconds

OK, strange. It works for me in TeX Live as well after I installed the
missing dejavu fonts. I didn't imagine that it would break with such a
strange error when a font is missing though.

> ( forget the time, it's a zero-optimized binary (fast to compile))

It takes even longer for me with the binary from the distribution.

> In general: at every new release I have complains about "how deadly slow is 
> texlive  installation".
> On the other side , some  could wonder why *DejaVu* are not installed by 
> default regardless of  engine/scheme.

You could wonder that for all the zillions of fonts that ship with TeX Live.
Only CM is compulsory, the rest is up to user's taste.

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Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live 2019: attempt to call a nil value (upvalue 'isfile')

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 07:39, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 00:14, Henri Menke wrote:
> >
> > Dear list,
> >
> > I just installed TeX Live 2019 pretest and running context --make fails with
> ,
> The latest ConTeXt has just been included yesterday and should be
> available since today (some time after the usual nightly update cca. 5
> hours ago + delays to finish the build and sync the mirrors).
>
> So please retry.

Here's my attempt of compiling
doc/context/sources/general/manuals/luatex/luatex.tex

fonts   > defining > font with asked name 'dejavusansmono' is
not found using lookup 'name'
fonts   > defining > unknown font 'dejavusansmono', loading aborted
fonts   > defining > unable to define 'dejavusansmono' as
'dejavu-10pt-tt-tf-0--0'
! error:  (linebreak): invalid list tail, probably missing
gluemtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1

The first hint is that we should probably include more font
dependencies in ConTeXt scheme. I can take care of that if you have
further suggestions (other than dejavu).

I didn't check what the actual error could be (no time now).

I used darwinlegacy binaries.

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Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live 2019: attempt to call a nil value (upvalue 'isfile')

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 00:14, Henri Menke wrote:
>
> Dear list,
>
> I just installed TeX Live 2019 pretest and running context --make fails with
,
The latest ConTeXt has just been included yesterday and should be
available since today (some time after the usual nightly update cca. 5
hours ago + delays to finish the build and sync the mirrors).

So please retry.

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Re: [NTG-context] markdown module vs pandoc

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 23:01, Gour wrote:
>
> I'm interested for using markdown markup and typeset such documents via
> ConTeXt, but wonder whether it is recommended to use Markdown module or do
> markdown --> ConTeXt via Pandoc?

If I was you, I would use AsciiDoc, convert it to DocBook and process the XML.
(There is some simple proof-of-concept docbook processing already written.)

Markdown is super ambiguous, with lots of different flavours, and
often resorting to HTML for the lack of more expressive syntax.

> btw, for illustrating
> ConText documents and/or slide-presentation, do you recommend learning
> MetaPost/MetaFun over .eg. TikZ if one wants to focus on single
> (probably my learning plate is already quite full to go into something
> else considering the need to learn ConTeXt itself) package?

I use both.

MetaPost/Fun is really cool when you need a lot of control of what you
want to do, the more calculations you need, the better. There is
relatively little syntax you need to learn to achive nearly anything,
but you mostly need to do stuff from scratch (if you reuse that code,
it gives you a lot of power).

I use TikZ when I need some ready-made stuff with possibly some fancy
shading patterns (or when I would pass the images to LaTeX users). In
those cases you might be able to achive the same in a lot less lines
of code, but you usually constantly need the user manual at hand, and
doing something low level is more tricky. ConTeXt support might be
occasionally broken.

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Re: [NTG-context] 404 error: Not found for first-setup.sh

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 21:21, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
> After some more tweaking on my side, Marcus now reported that it works for 
> him, finally.

Thank you, it seems fixed for me as well.

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Re: [NTG-context] 404 error: Not found for first-setup.sh

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 19:03, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita wrote:
>
> Hi, Taco
>
> I tried again, but the server still answers with a 404 error.

There seems to be some misconfiguration for http vs. https introduced
earlier today. For me it works on http, while it tries to access the
mailman page on https. However my browser additionally automatically
redirects to https, so it fails from the browser as well.

We'll try to fix it tomorrow (read as: I'll probably leave it to Taco
as I would almost certainly break something in an even worse way than
that :)

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Re: [NTG-context] Where to put icc color profiles

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Jan,

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 14:49, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:
>
> I downloaded some color profiles and stored them in:
>
> /context/tex/texmf-context/colors/icc/profiles
>
> But they get overwritten, when I update context.

Please try to put them to
/context/tex/texmf-local/colors/icc/profiles
instead (and maybe run "mtxrun --generate" afterwards just in case).

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Re: [NTG-context] TextMate ConTeXt bundle

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Manuel,

On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 11:12, Manuel Blanco  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> After some years with LaTeX and let's say three or four times trying
> to start with ConTeXt, I decided to try again. Difficult, there are
> many manuals and a lot of contradicting ideas (at least for those of
> us that do not know) in them, but still, I want to try to see if once
> and for all I can manage to dominate it.
>
> I have installed MacTeX 2018. I use TextMate, and the ConTeXt bundle
> is not working in Mac OS High Sierra. After installing it, when I
> tried to compile it said something along the lines "your PATH is ...
> you should have 'context' in your path", so I searched in my computer
> and changed TextMate PATH to:
>
> 
> $PATH:/opt/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/texbin:/usr/local/texlive/2018/texmf-dist/scripts/context/stubs/unix

This path is wrong.

First of all, you might run into some troubles if you accidentally
install some TeX binaries via MacPorts (then you might get mixed
binaries from one and the other, leading to troubles), so I would
strongly suggest you to put the MacTeX path *in front of*
/opt/local/bin.

Second, /usr/texbin probably no longer works on High Sierra (it worked
earlier, but no longer does after Apple decided to prohibit creating
paths in some of the top level folders, unless you manually switch the
protection off, reboot, make the change, etc.).

I assume that your binaries are now in
/Library/TeX/texbin
which is ultimately a symlink to
/usr/local/texlive/2018/bin/x86_64-darwin
(which you could also use if needed).

> And this last part is where I think the context binary seems to be
> /usr/local/texlive/2018/texmf-dist/scripts/context/stubs/unix
>
> But now when I run it it says
>
> env: texlua: No such file or directory
>
> What could be happening? What do I do?
>
> Also, the bundle was last updated in 2010, may be there are new
> things? Where could we learn what things to add?

It is. Patrick who wrote the bundle in no longer active in the ConTeXt
community, but I keep using his bundle and it works fine. It would
certainly be nice if someone took the work over and revised it. If you
want to volunteer, that would be awesome :)

You would probably need to start reading documentation about TextMate
bundles. One thing that might be straightforward to add are more known
commands (such a list could be autogenerated).

I never compile from within TextMate, so I don't know if that area
needs some changes (not sure if Patrick last modified the bundle
before or after MKIV was considered "the version you should use").

> https://github.com/pgundlach/context.tmbundle
>
> Any updated documentation that takes you from beginner to intermediate
> would be apreciated too.

For ConTeXt or for the TextMate bundle?

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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] Luatex 1.09.0 announcement (Mojca Miklavec)

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Damien,

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 13:09, Damien Thiriet wrote:
>
> LuaJIT did not work on OpenBSD 6.3 texlive* packages.

While it's not super important to have it, there's something super
suspicious about that. It did work until Luigi switched to the
experimental branch:

http://build.contextgarden.net/builders/luatex.openbsd-amd64-6.2.prg/builds/217
and broke immediately after that:

http://build.contextgarden.net/builders/luatex.openbsd-amd64-6.2.prg/builds/222

In TeX Live it broke for me some time ago. I checked the history, but
already the first build for OpenBSD 6.2 had luajittex build disabled
(in April 2018; according to git history I committed the change on the
29th of April 2018). I would say it must have worked in TeX Live 2017,
but I compiled that one with gcc on OpenBSD 6.0/6.1 rather than with
clang. Not that this is a valid excuse though: as shown above, clang
successfully compiled luajittex on OpenBSD 6.2 and 6.3 from the luatex
repository until very recently.

> I can live without it anyway.
> Does this mean that a ConTeXt live install will be available on OpenBSD 6.4?

I was not aware that OpenBSD 6.4 was out until you mentioned it. I'll
upgrade the machine on our build farm.

But just to make sure: did the minimals work correctly for you on 6.3?

> As usual I would be highly interested, even more since I discovered that
> using official packages (TL-2017 btw), you have to load everything to
> get context, since texlive-texmf-full is a texlive-texmf-context dependency.

I would try to talk to Edd or others packaging TeX Live if there's a
way to reduce the dependencies. We can help advise on what is (not)
needed.

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Re: [NTG-context] Old version of luatex for alpine linux (musl)

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Martin,

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 15:24, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 13:37, Martin Hasoň wrote:
> >
> > I want to use the last beta version of standalone ConTeXt distribution in 
> > alpine linux (musl). The installation was OK, but an error occurred while 
> > compiling the file:
>
> Eeeem, my fault, sorry. I did not update LuaTeX for musl as it comes
> from another source

Can you please try again if it works now?

Thanks to Henri I fetched the binary of LuaTeX 1.09 (but did not yet
set up automation to do that in the future, please give me some more
time :).

Henri, thanks a lot.

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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] Luatex 1.09.0 announcement

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Luigi,

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 23:19, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:15 PM Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> Dear Luigi,
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 20:12, luigi scarso wrote:
>> >
>> > ==
>> > LuaTeX 1.09 2018-10-23
>> > ==
>> >
>> > (1) This is a release that fixed some bugs, and the latest
>> > with lua 5.2.
>>
>> LuaJIT build on OpenBSD seems to be broken (and build.sh doesn't fail
>> when it should, so you are getting an unjustified success report):
>>
> good, so green doesn't mean ok and red means bad.

Green in that case means that someone needs to fix build.sh to return
a non-zero error when the build fails :)
(I hope that I fixed the buildbot configuration when changes happen in
trunk. But I will need a test.)

>> /home/buildbot/slaves/texlive/luatex_openbsd-amd64-6_2_prg/build/build/libs/luajit/.libs/libtexluajit.a(lj_err.o):
>> In function `lj_err_unwind_dwarf':
>> ../../../source/libs/luajit/LuaJIT-src/src/lj_err.c:236: undefined
>
> to be honest, I  remember that only freebsd used to work.

It did work in the past. (You can also check the history.)

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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] Luatex 1.09.0 announcement

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Luigi,

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 20:12, luigi scarso wrote:
>
> ==
> LuaTeX 1.09 2018-10-23
> ==
>
> (1) This is a release that fixed some bugs, and the latest
> with lua 5.2.

LuaJIT build on OpenBSD seems to be broken (and build.sh doesn't fail
when it should, so you are getting an unjustified success report):

/home/buildbot/slaves/texlive/luatex_openbsd-amd64-6_2_prg/build/build/libs/luajit/.libs/libtexluajit.a(lj_err.o):
In function `lj_err_unwind_dwarf':
../../../source/libs/luajit/LuaJIT-src/src/lj_err.c:236: undefined
reference to `_Unwind_GetCFA'
../../../source/libs/luajit/LuaJIT-src/src/lj_err.c:254: undefined
reference to `_Unwind_DeleteException'
../../../source/libs/luajit/LuaJIT-src/src/lj_err.c:262: undefined
reference to `_Unwind_SetGR'
../../../source/libs/luajit/LuaJIT-src/src/lj_err.c:273: undefined
reference to `_Unwind_SetGR'
../../../source/libs/luajit/LuaJIT-src/src/lj_err.c:(.text+0x301):
undefined reference to `_Unwind_SetIP'
/path/to/build/build/libs/luajit/.libs/libtexluajit.a(lj_err.o): In
function `err_raise_ext':
../../../source/libs/luajit/LuaJIT-src/src/lj_err.c:301: undefined
reference to `_Unwind_RaiseException'
clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
gmake: *** [Makefile:7713: luajittex] Error 1

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Re: [NTG-context] Old version of luatex for alpine linux (musl)

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hi,

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 13:37, Martin Hasoň wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I want to use the last beta version of standalone ConTeXt distribution in 
> alpine linux (musl). The installation was OK, but an error occurred while 
> compiling the file:

Eeeem, my fault, sorry. I did not update LuaTeX for musl as it comes
from another source (at the moment we can build it on Travis, but I
never did that so far myself).

I wanted to somehow automate this. Norbert has set up an automatic
mirror on GitHub and also set up a Travis job, but we would need a
mechanism to push the resulting binary somewhere. Or at least I need
to find a way to trigger a build manually from time to time. At the
moment one needs to create a tag which is a bit strange, but ...
(I wanted to take time and set up my own account on Travis etc., just
never came around to do so.)

If Henri has some suggestion about the most efficient way to achieve
this ... (for the moment it would be ok if I only get the latest
binary from trunk/master).

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Re: [NTG-context] Homebrew packaging for macOS

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 01:24, Andrew Dunning wrote:
>
> Dear list,
>
> Has anyone ever looked into packaging ConTeXt for Homebrew on macOS (see 
> )?

I'm not aware of any such effort so far, but we gladly help you if you
are willing to invest effort into creating one yourself.

> Providing it as an installation option would make it far easier to obtain the 
> latest version.

Obtaining the latest version is already relatively easy, but I fully
understand your point :)

> In looking into it myself, I immediately came across the problem of not being 
> exactly sure where to find a versioned download link. See their guidelines at 
> .

Maybe
https://github.com/contextgarden/context-mirror
comes closest to what you are looking for, but note that ConTeXt
provides several releases per day (or maybe a release every few days
at most) which is more resembling individual commits in other projects
than one release per every few months as would be common with other
projects.

The only thing that comes somewhat closer to a release is a version
that gets released with TeX Live once per year, but that's not in line
with your desire to easily get the latest version. We had the latest
version of ConTeXt in TLContrib repository for a while which could
probably be reinstated if desired, but that means using MacTeX (even
if from HB).

If you want to provide a package for HB, you either need to use "HEAD"
or create a cron job that will update the package definition several
times per day :) :) :)

But note that installing ConTeXt alone is not sufficient. You also
need LuaTeX, a bunch of fonts and other files (I'm not sure which
ones; with the old ConTeXt MKII it was a lot more dependencies than
with the new ConTeXt MKIV). The easiest way would be to install TeX
Live as a dependency, but from what I saw I suspect that HB only
packages MacTeX as a binary installation. You could install ConTeXt on
top of that in a way that doesn't conflict. Alternatively you need to
spend (quite some) effort figuring out what exactly is needed.

I'll probably create another git repository with a standalone
installation, but it's not yet ready and you should not count on it.

I suspect that you'll find a slightly hard time getting this package
into core HomeBrew and that you'll need to provide your own
repository, but I might be wrong. I decided against providing a
package for MacPorts precisely because it's not really practical to
update a package definition every few days.

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