[NTG-context] weird \inlinetypebuffer interaction
Dear list, I have the following sample: \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Termes] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \starttext \startbuffer context --purgeall \stopbuffer inline \typeinlinebuffer block: \typebuffer \stoptext As long as there is no defined font family for mono, \typeinlinebuffer doesn’t convert -- into an en-dash (the same way as \typebuffer behaves). But as in the sample above, when a font is defined for mono (at least with \definefontfamily), \typeinlinebuffer converts -- into en-dashes (different from \typebuffer). Sorry, but how could I fix this \typeinlinebuffer? This is important for me, since two hyphens is one of the most common ways to marks options when invoking programs (which I try to explain to others). BTW, \sciteinlinebuffer seems have the same problem (in the scite module). Many thanks for your help, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Why is this description environment not showing the correct title?
Mikael Sundqvist schrieb am 05.05.2024 um 16:45:
Hi
On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 4:40 PM Joel via ntg-context wrote:
\definedescription[latexdesc][headstyle=bold, style=normal, align=flushleft,
alternative=hanging, width=broad, margin=1cm]
\starttext
\latexdesc{1540} some event happened
\latexdesc{1541} some other event happened
\latexdesc{1542} some event happened quite different
\stoptext
I found the above code (the first line) in the ConTeXt Wiki, as a way to create
the equivalent of a desc environment from LaTeX. The items inside {} should be
bold, then there is a gap before the next text.
I am using this to display a simple timeline.
Though the formatting looks perfect, very strangely when I compile it, it changes all of
the dates to say "1540" (or whatever date was used first).
Why is it showing the wrong title on the desc environment?
--Joel
I don't know how you want it to look, exactly, but ending the
paragraph helps with the numbering. There is also a start/stop version
that suggests a bit more structure.
Paragraphs act as delimiter for each description in the old form, the
environment
form is better in this regards because a) you can now use multiple
paragraphs as
part of a single description and you can avoid problem like Joel has because
it is clear where each description ends.
\definedescription
[latexdesc]
[headstyle=bold,
style=normal,
align=flushleft,
alternative=hanging,
width=broad,
margin=1cm]
\starttext
\latexdesc{1540} some event happened
\latexdesc{1541} some other event happened
\latexdesc{1542} some event happened quite different
\startlatexdesc
[title={1540}]
some event happened
\stoplatexdesc
\startlatexdesc
[title={1541}]
some other event happened
\stoplatexdesc
\startlatexdesc
[title={1542}]
some event happened quite different
\stoplatexdesc
\stoptext
An alternative to descriptions for such simple aligned text are item
with the \txt option.
Both blocks are the same but the second use the start/stop option for
each item.
\starttext
\startitemize[width=3em,symstyle=bold]
\txt{1540} some event happened
\txt{1541} some other event happened
\txt{1542} some event happened quite different
\stopitemize
\blank[2*line]
\startitemize[width=3em,symstyle=bold]
\startspecialitem[txt]{1540} some event happened \stopspecialitem
\startspecialitem[txt]{1541} some other event happened \stopspecialitem
\startspecialitem[txt]{1542} some event happened quite different
\stopspecialitem
\stopitemize
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: Why is this description environment not showing the correct title?
Hi
On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 4:40 PM Joel via ntg-context wrote:
>
>
> \definedescription[latexdesc][headstyle=bold, style=normal, align=flushleft,
> alternative=hanging, width=broad, margin=1cm]
>
> \starttext
>
> \latexdesc{1540} some event happened
> \latexdesc{1541} some other event happened
> \latexdesc{1542} some event happened quite different
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> I found the above code (the first line) in the ConTeXt Wiki, as a way to
> create the equivalent of a desc environment from LaTeX. The items inside {}
> should be bold, then there is a gap before the next text.
>
> I am using this to display a simple timeline.
>
> Though the formatting looks perfect, very strangely when I compile it, it
> changes all of the dates to say "1540" (or whatever date was used first).
>
> Why is it showing the wrong title on the desc environment?
>
> --Joel
I don't know how you want it to look, exactly, but ending the
paragraph helps with the numbering. There is also a start/stop version
that suggests a bit more structure.
\definedescription
[latexdesc]
[headstyle=bold,
style=normal,
align=flushleft,
alternative=hanging,
width=broad,
margin=1cm]
\starttext
\latexdesc{1540} some event happened
\latexdesc{1541} some other event happened
\latexdesc{1542} some event happened quite different
\startlatexdesc
[title={1540}]
some event happened
\stoplatexdesc
\startlatexdesc
[title={1541}]
some other event happened
\stoplatexdesc
\startlatexdesc
[title={1542}]
some event happened quite different
\stoplatexdesc
\stoptext
/Mikael
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[NTG-context] Why is this description environment not showing the correct title?
\definedescription[latexdesc][headstyle=bold, style=normal, align=flushleft,
alternative=hanging, width=broad, margin=1cm]
\starttext
\latexdesc{1540} some event happened
\latexdesc{1541} some other event happened
\latexdesc{1542} some event happened quite different
\stoptext
I found the above code (the first line) in the ConTeXt Wiki, as a way to create
the equivalent of a desc environment from LaTeX. The items inside {} should be
bold, then there is a gap before the next text.
I am using this to display a simple timeline.
Though the formatting looks perfect, very strangely when I compile it, it
changes all of the dates to say "1540" (or whatever date was used first).
Why is it showing the wrong title on the desc environment?
--Joel
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[NTG-context] Re: How to stop ConTeXt from thinking period is at the end of a sentence?
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/French_spacing Joel via ntg-context hat am 05.05.2024 00:30 CEST geschrieben: I noticed that some code is being rendered wrong, most especially apparent in a column environment where sometimes the text can get stretched a bit more to fit the column width nicer. If a sentence says "They appeared between c. 1200 BCE and c. 1500 CE." it appears ConTeXt thinks that the period in "c." marks the end of a sentence. As such, when setting the text, sometimes it will give a large space between "c." and "1200 BCE". How do I correctly tell ConTeXt that that period doesn't mark the end of a sentence, so shouldn't be given extra space afterwards? --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] How to stop ConTeXt from thinking period is at the end of a sentence?
I noticed that some code is being rendered wrong, most especially apparent in a column environment where sometimes the text can get stretched a bit more to fit the column width nicer. If a sentence says "They appeared between c. 1200 BCE and c. 1500 CE." it appears ConTeXt thinks that the period in "c." marks the end of a sentence. As such, when setting the text, sometimes it will give a large space between "c." and "1200 BCE". How do I correctly tell ConTeXt that that period doesn't mark the end of a sentence, so shouldn't be given extra space afterwards? --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
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[NTG-context] Re: more register questions!
Hi Massi,
yes, that was a very good idea! I can detect if the element
occurs within a footnote by testing
\xmldoiftext {#1} {ancestor::footnote}
and then apply a processor to these entries. That would be a good
solution for the time being.
Thanks and all best
Thomas
On 5/2/24 17:55, mf wrote:
I did something like that, with a processor that added a "n" after the
occurrence page number.
Since you typeset XML, maybe you can detect that an index (register)
reference happens inside a note from the DOM element you are typesetting.
Then you use a command like this:
\index[NoteProcessor->sortkey]{index term}
where NoteProcessor is defined like this:
\defineprocessor[NoteProcessor][right={\itx n}]
In this case I'm adding a smaller "n" to the right of the page number of
the occurrence.
Adding the \high style is not difficult:
\defineprocessor[NoteProcessor][right=\high{n}]
but replacing a fixed "n" with the footnote number is quite challenging.
The second argument of \defineprocessor has a "command=\...##1" option
that could be exploited, but I don't know exactly what gets passed to
that custom command as ##1; maybe the page number of the occurrence.
In that case, I'd look for a way to store the association between that
occurrence and the footnote number, and retrieve that in the custom
command.
Massi
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[NTG-context] Re: more register questions!
Thomas A. Schmitz schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 17:01:
Hi,
making wonderful progress on my registers and translating from xml.
There is one thing I can't figure out (and I or some other good soul
may have asked in the past...). Is it possible to mark occurrences in
footnotes? Ideally, the entry in the register would look like
p. 100\high{20}
to show that the term occurs in note 20 on p. 100. But if that's
asking too much, I would be content with applying a processor (say,
italic) to these register entries. From the looks of the tuc file,
Context doesn't appear to "know" that a register entry is within a
footnote. But Hans never ceases to amaze me, so maybe there is a way
(short of applying special markup to these notes in the source)?
You can play with the following example, the main point use to use the
\setregisterentry command and pass the footnote counter with the third
(optional) argument.
\def\IndexPageCommand#1%
{#1\doifsomething
{\currentregisterpageuserdata{footnote}}
{\high{\currentregisterpageuserdata{footnote
\setupregister[index][pagecommand=\IndexPageCommand]
\starttext
\dorecurse{200}
{\samplefile{lorem}\expanded{\setregisterentry[index][entries=\recurselevel]}%
\samplefile{lorem}\footnote{xxx\expanded{\setregisterentry[index][entries=\recurselevel][footnote={\rawcountervalue[footnote]}]}}%
\samplefile{lorem}}
\page \placeindex
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: more register questions!
Il 02/05/24 17:01, Thomas A. Schmitz ha scritto:
Hi,
making wonderful progress on my registers and translating from xml.
There is one thing I can't figure out (and I or some other good soul may
have asked in the past...). Is it possible to mark occurrences in
footnotes? Ideally, the entry in the register would look like
p. 100\high{20}
to show that the term occurs in note 20 on p. 100. But if that's asking
too much, I would be content with applying a processor (say, italic) to
these register entries. From the looks of the tuc file, Context doesn't
appear to "know" that a register entry is within a footnote. But Hans
never ceases to amaze me, so maybe there is a way (short of applying
special markup to these notes in the source)?
I did something like that, with a processor that added a "n" after the
occurrence page number.
Since you typeset XML, maybe you can detect that an index (register)
reference happens inside a note from the DOM element you are typesetting.
Then you use a command like this:
\index[NoteProcessor->sortkey]{index term}
where NoteProcessor is defined like this:
\defineprocessor[NoteProcessor][right={\itx n}]
In this case I'm adding a smaller "n" to the right of the page number of
the occurrence.
Adding the \high style is not difficult:
\defineprocessor[NoteProcessor][right=\high{n}]
but replacing a fixed "n" with the footnote number is quite challenging.
The second argument of \defineprocessor has a "command=\...##1" option
that could be exploited, but I don't know exactly what gets passed to
that custom command as ##1; maybe the page number of the occurrence.
In that case, I'd look for a way to store the association between that
occurrence and the footnote number, and retrieve that in the custom command.
Massi
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[NTG-context] more register questions!
Hi,
making wonderful progress on my registers and translating from xml.
There is one thing I can't figure out (and I or some other good soul may
have asked in the past...). Is it possible to mark occurrences in
footnotes? Ideally, the entry in the register would look like
p. 100\high{20}
to show that the term occurs in note 20 on p. 100. But if that's asking
too much, I would be content with applying a processor (say, italic) to
these register entries. From the looks of the tuc file, Context doesn't
appear to "know" that a register entry is within a footnote. But Hans
never ceases to amaze me, so maybe there is a way (short of applying
special markup to these notes in the source)?
All best
Thomas
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[NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
denisma...@mailbox.org schrieb am 30.04.2024 um 14:28:
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Wolfgang Schuster
Gesendet: Samstag, 27. April 2024 07:40
An: Denis Maier
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
Denis Maier schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 19:52:
I see. But there's no command that could be used to simulate an empty line?
If not, me should I perhaps try to replicate the wrapper structure
from the XML source in context? (I'll also look into the format module
of
course.) What do you think?
Below is a different solution to your problem with works without \startlines
because you already mark up each individual line in the poem which make it
possible to add a linebreak in the output.
With \blank options (samepage) you can avoid pagebreaks between stanzas.
\startxmlsetups xml:test
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{*}{-}
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{doc|poem|stanza|line}{xml:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xml:test}
\startxmlsetups xml:doc
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:poem
\blank[line]
\xmlflush{#1}
\blank[back,line]
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:stanza
\xmlflush{#1}\blank[preference,line]
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:line
\xmlflush{#1}\blank[samepage,none]
\stopxmlsetups
\startbuffer[test]
The
lines
are
there!
The
lines
are
there!
The
lines
are
there!
\stopbuffer
\starttext
\samplefile{lorem}
\xmlprocessbuffer{test}{test}{}
\samplefile{lorem}
\stoptext
Thanks for this solution. I've had a quick look, and it seems to do exactly
what I need. My requirements are rather simple at the moment, but that should
be sufficient, but to repeat Hraban's question: What would be the advantage of
using the format module?
The module provides features like
- alignment of the verse lines
- numbering of the lines (which isn't supported by \startlines
unless you add the normal linenumbering mechanism)
- support for lines which don't fit on a single page where the
consecutive lines are indented
but the module is outdated and relies on an old mkii style code base.
A big difference between the \startlines environment and the format
module is that the first treats
each line in the input file as a separate line in the output while the
format module requires begin/end
tags for each line which works better for xml input.
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Wolfgang Schuster
> Gesendet: Samstag, 27. April 2024 07:40
> An: Denis Maier
> Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
>
> Denis Maier schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 19:52:
>
> > I see. But there's no command that could be used to simulate an empty line?
> > If not, me should I perhaps try to replicate the wrapper structure
> > from the XML source in context? (I'll also look into the format module
> > of
> > course.) What do you think?
>
> Below is a different solution to your problem with works without \startlines
> because you already mark up each individual line in the poem which make it
> possible to add a linebreak in the output.
>
> With \blank options (samepage) you can avoid pagebreaks between stanzas.
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:test
> \xmlsetsetup{#1}{*}{-}
> \xmlsetsetup{#1}{doc|poem|stanza|line}{xml:*}
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \xmlregistersetup{xml:test}
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:doc
> \xmlflush{#1}
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:poem
> \blank[line]
> \xmlflush{#1}
> \blank[back,line]
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:stanza
> \xmlflush{#1}\blank[preference,line]
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:line
> \xmlflush{#1}\blank[samepage,none]
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \startbuffer[test]
>
>
>
>
> The
> lines
> are
> there!
>
>
> The
> lines
> are
> there!
>
>
> The
> lines
> are
> there!
>
>
>
> \stopbuffer
>
> \starttext
>
> \samplefile{lorem}
>
> \xmlprocessbuffer{test}{test}{}
>
> \samplefile{lorem}
>
> \stoptext
Thanks for this solution. I've had a quick look, and it seems to do exactly
what I need. My requirements are rather simple at the moment, but that should
be sufficient, but to repeat Hraban's question: What would be the advantage of
using the format module?
Thanks again for your help,
Denis
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[NTG-context] Re: Why Difference Between \placefloat and \definefloat
urba...@ca.rr.com schrieb am 28.04.2024 um 19:54:
I swear I used to understand this stuff. I plead old age. Why do I
get two different results from the float placements here:
\definefloat[mysidebar][mysidebars]
\setupfloat[mysidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]
1. You can't pass assignments and keywords to the same argument.
2. The \setupfloat command accepts only assignments as arguments, this
means "outer" and "none" are ignored.
To set a default location for the float use
\setupfloat[...][default={outer,none}]
\defineframedtext [sidebartext]
[width=.4\textwidth,bodyfont=small,corner=round,background=color,backgroundcolor=lightgray,align=flushleft]
\starttext
This is a bit of text
\placefloat[sidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]{}{
1. You're again passing assignments and keywords with a single argument.
2. The \placefloat commands accepts only keywords and ignores all
assignments, this means your distance settings have no effect.
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: QR Code
Hi Ben,
I’m not sure if this is your issue, but the zint library’s API used to
change with every version, so that ConTeXt supports only the “latest”
few, and probably that’s still 2.10 to 2.12.
I still have 2.12 via MacPorts on MacOS 10.15, and it works.
Can you try an older zint version?
And just for information, MkIV used to call the zint binary, while LMTX
uses the library to create the structures and converts them via MP into
PDF objects (no additional files).
Hraban
Am 29.04.24 um 05:03 schrieb Benjamin Buchmuller:
Catching up on an earlier thread by Ursula and Hraban,
I'm also experienceing problems with \usemodule[zint] while \usemodule[t-zint]
works fine.
Running on macOS (ConTeXt ver: 2024.04.01 08:59 LMTX fmt: 2024.4.28).
The issue seems somewhat unrelated to ConTeXt on first glance (??) if this is
helpful. My code stopped working after I updated the OS (to Sonoma) and my
homebrew cellar (to zint 2.13.0) while keeping a ConTeXt version from 2022
which compiled the barcodes perfectly fine before these updates. This being
said, the newer ConTeXt version doesn't resolve the issue.
Observations:
1) Zint (and Inkscape) is in my PATH and correctly sym-linked as specified in the
wiki (~/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/lib/luametatex/zint/libzint.so
<http://libzint.so/>). However, the library was (still) not fount after mtxrun
--generate
[This seems an odd, but unrelated problem]
2) So, I hardcoded libfile in libs-impzint.lmt to
local libfile = "/usr/local/Cellar/zint/2.13.0/lib/libzint.dylib"
3) Running the wiki example:
\usemodule[m-zint]
\starttext
\barcode[alternative=isbnx, text=9783865419026, width=4cm]
\barcode[alternative=qrcode, text={https://wiki.contextgarden.net},
width=3cm]
\barcode[alternative=maxicode, text={test}, width=3cm]
\stoptext
* With \usemodule[m-zint], I correctly get:
zint --barcode=qrcode --output="zint-qrcode-495165e08dbc5ce650aaaf13caa2229f.eps"
--input="zint-qrcode-495165e08dbc5ce650aaaf13caa2229f.tmp"
zint --barcode=maxicode --output="zint-maxicode-098f6bcd4621d373cade4e832627b4f6.eps"
--input="zint-maxicode-098f6bcd4621d373cade4e832627b4f6.tmp"
[Barcodes show up as expected]
* With \usemodule[zint], no success:
optional> using library
'/usr/local/Cellar/zint/2.13.0/lib/libzint.dylib'
zint> something went wrong: invalid result vector
zint> something went wrong: invalid result
zint> something went wrong: invalid result vector
Maybe this is helpful to pinpoint the issue?
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[NTG-context] Re: QR Code
Catching up on an earlier thread by Ursula and Hraban,
I'm also experienceing problems with \usemodule[zint] while \usemodule[t-zint]
works fine.
Running on macOS (ConTeXt ver: 2024.04.01 08:59 LMTX fmt: 2024.4.28).
The issue seems somewhat unrelated to ConTeXt on first glance (??) if this is
helpful. My code stopped working after I updated the OS (to Sonoma) and my
homebrew cellar (to zint 2.13.0) while keeping a ConTeXt version from 2022
which compiled the barcodes perfectly fine before these updates. This being
said, the newer ConTeXt version doesn't resolve the issue.
Observations:
1) Zint (and Inkscape) is in my PATH and correctly sym-linked as specified in
the wiki (~/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/lib/luametatex/zint/libzint.so
<http://libzint.so/>). However, the library was (still) not fount after mtxrun
--generate
[This seems an odd, but unrelated problem]
2) So, I hardcoded libfile in libs-impzint.lmt to
local libfile = "/usr/local/Cellar/zint/2.13.0/lib/libzint.dylib"
3) Running the wiki example:
\usemodule[m-zint]
\starttext
\barcode[alternative=isbnx, text=9783865419026, width=4cm]
\barcode[alternative=qrcode, text={https://wiki.contextgarden.net},
width=3cm]
\barcode[alternative=maxicode, text={test}, width=3cm]
\stoptext
* With \usemodule[m-zint], I correctly get:
zint --barcode=qrcode
--output="zint-qrcode-495165e08dbc5ce650aaaf13caa2229f.eps"
--input="zint-qrcode-495165e08dbc5ce650aaaf13caa2229f.tmp"
zint --barcode=maxicode
--output="zint-maxicode-098f6bcd4621d373cade4e832627b4f6.eps"
--input="zint-maxicode-098f6bcd4621d373cade4e832627b4f6.tmp"
[Barcodes show up as expected]
* With \usemodule[zint], no success:
optional> using library
'/usr/local/Cellar/zint/2.13.0/lib/libzint.dylib'
zint> something went wrong: invalid result vector
zint> something went wrong: invalid result
zint> something went wrong: invalid result vector
Maybe this is helpful to pinpoint the issue?
Best
Ben
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[NTG-context] Re: Why Difference Between \placefloat and \definefloat
Where’s the float type "sidebar" defined? AFAIK it’s not a default type.
And it might interfere with the actual sidebar stuff from
https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkxl/anch-bar.mkxl,
see also https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupsidebar
Hraban
Am 28.04.24 um 19:54 schrieb urba...@ca.rr.com:
I swear I used to understand this stuff. I plead old age. Why do I
get two different results from the float placements here:
\definefloat[mysidebar][mysidebars]
\setupfloat[mysidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]
\defineframedtext [sidebartext]
[width=.4\textwidth,bodyfont=small,corner=round,background=color,backgroundcolor=lightgray,align=flushleft]
\starttext
This is a bit of text
\placefloat[sidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]{}{
\startsidebartext
This is a short sidebar
\stopsidebartext
}
And something to follow.
A bit of text
\placemysidebar{}{
\startsidebartext
This is a short sidebar
\stopsidebartext
}
And something to follow.
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Why Difference Between \placefloat and \definefloat
I swear I used to understand this stuff. I plead old age. Why do I get
two different results from the float placements here:
definefloat[mysidebar][mysidebars]
setupfloat[mysidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]
defineframedtext [sidebartext]
[width=.4textwidth,bodyfont=small,corner=round,background=color,backgroundcolor=lightgray,align=flushleft]
starttext
This is a bit of text
placefloat[sidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]{}{
startsidebartext
This is a short sidebar
stopsidebartext
}
And something to follow.
A bit of text
placemysidebar{}{
startsidebartext
This is a short sidebar
stopsidebartext
}
And something to follow.
stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: statistical charts module re-published
Hi Tomáš, thank you, I updated the information at https://codeberg.org/fiee/context-statistical-charts and also published the new version to https://modules.contextgarden.net (i.e. installation with "mtxrun --script install-modules --install statistical-charts" will now install the current version). Best, Hraban Am 28.04.24 um 13:58 schrieb Tomáš Hála: Hi Hraban and all, the server akela at our university is not absolutely down but avialable from the university intranet (or via VPN) only, unfortunately. When you wrote the second email (the first one I accidentally missed in the flood of other messages, sorry about that) I was just in the middle of cleaning data and migrating them to other sites. At the same time, Tamara and I fixed some small things and we publish a new version of this module containing our work from the last year. The official site for statistical-charts module is now www.thala.cz/statcharts, available also via www.konvoj.cz/statcharts, and mirrored at user.mendelu.cz/thala/statcharts. Best, Tomáš On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 08:54:46PM +, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Hi, since the Akela server at Mendel University is down since a while, I got no response from Tomáš, and it would be a pity to lose this module, I re-published the statistical charts module at https://codeberg.org/fiee/context-statistical-charts I’ll also put it on modules.contextgarden.net This is version 0.31, tagged by me as 2020-09-11 (date of the presentation). I’m sure there’s a newer version somewhere, at least at Ramkumar’s, and I’d like to update the repo to that. Also the sources for the documentation are missing. Authors, please help me save your work! Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Define a new command that inherits from multiple other command options
Thanks for the detailed answer, my problem was solved very well through the code you provided -- Muyik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: How to make superscript text match footnote mark formatting?
Thank you! --Joel
On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 12:08:13 PM MDT, Wolfgang Schuster
wrote:
Joel via ntg-context schrieb am 27.04.2024 um 19:16:
> \starttext
> test\high{1}test\footnote{some text}
> \stoptext
>
> How can I create a superscript number that has exactly the same
> formatting as a footnote, but which won't create a footnote. I tried
> \high{}, which I believe should be the way to superscript text, but if
> you compile this, you can see the first "1" and second "1" have entirely
> different formatting. How do I make the first one have the same exact
> formtating as the real footnote?
Footnotes apply the \tx style to the number in the running text and to
get the same text size with \high you need \tx before the argument.
Another solution is to create your own \high command where you set the
text size as default value but now you have to pass \txx as value
because by default \high already uses style=\tx. When you now combine
the default \tx from \high and the \tx from the footnote you get the
\txx size (which is used in the custom \high command).
begin example
\definehigh[fakenotesymbol][style=\txx]
\starttext
\startlines
test\footnote{\unknown}
test\high{\tx 1}
test\fakenotesymbol{1}
\stoplines
\stoptext
end example
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: How to make superscript text match footnote mark formatting?
Joel via ntg-context schrieb am 27.04.2024 um 19:16:
\starttext
test\high{1}test\footnote{some text}
\stoptext
How can I create a superscript number that has exactly the same
formatting as a footnote, but which won't create a footnote. I tried
\high{}, which I believe should be the way to superscript text, but if
you compile this, you can see the first "1" and second "1" have entirely
different formatting. How do I make the first one have the same exact
formtating as the real footnote?
Footnotes apply the \tx style to the number in the running text and to
get the same text size with \high you need \tx before the argument.
Another solution is to create your own \high command where you set the
text size as default value but now you have to pass \txx as value
because by default \high already uses style=\tx. When you now combine
the default \tx from \high and the \tx from the footnote you get the
\txx size (which is used in the custom \high command).
begin example
\definehigh[fakenotesymbol][style=\txx]
\starttext
\startlines
test\footnote{\unknown}
test\high{\tx 1}
test\fakenotesymbol{1}
\stoplines
\stoptext
end example
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: Define a new command that inherits from multiple other command options
ai2472206...@yeah.net schrieb am 25.04.2024 um 10:24:
hi!
I'm new to ConTeXt. I want to define a command with sidenote function. This
[setupsidenote] command inherits the options of [setupmargindata],
[setupcounter] and [setupframed]. just like [setupenumeration] inherits the
option of [setupcounter].
I've defined the following sidenote command by searching, and I know how to
define a new option for it. But what I don't know is how to get it to inherit
the options of other commands and perform these features correctly.
Any clue is warmly welcome.
Hi ???,
not all commands provide a way to inherit their options but the "framed"
and "counter" mechanism supports it.
To use the framed mechanism with your own command replace
\installcommandhandler with \installframedcommandhandler. This creates a
command named \inherited...framed which can be customized with the
setups of the new namespace.
begin example
\unprotect
\installnamespace {sidenote}
\installframedcommandhandler \sidenote {sidenote} \sidenote
\protect
\starttext
\inheritedsidenoteframed{Text in a frame!}
\setupsidenote[framecolor=red,width=8cm,height=2cm]
\inheritedsidenoteframed{Text in a frame!}
\stoptext
end example
To use the counter mechanism with your commands you have to first use
\installcounterassociation to create the two new commands
\register...counter (this ensures the default counter values are used
when you don't set anything) and \synchronize...counters (which updates
the counter values when you use the setup of your own command).
Unlike the framed mechanism this no longer works with the root instance
of your own commands because we create a new counter only when you
create a instance (with \define...) of the new command.
begin example
\unprotect
\installnamespace{sidenote}
\installcommandhandler \sidenote {sidenote} \sidenote
\installcounterassociation{sidenote}
\appendtoks
\registersidenotecounter\currentsidenote
\definecounter[\currentsidenote]%
\to \everydefinesidenote
\appendtoks
\synchronizesidenotecounters
\to \everysetupsidenote
\protect
\starttext
% create a new sidenote instance with a associated counter
\definesidenote[example]
\start % use grouping to keep the sidenote instance local
\def\currentsidenote{example}% set the sidenote instance to example
\incrementcounter[example]% increment the example/sidenote counter
\convertedcounter[example]% print the example/sidenote counter
\stop
% change the number format of the example/sidenote counter
\setupsidenote[example][numberconversion=romannumerals]
\start
\def\currentsidenote{example}
\incrementcounter[example]
\convertedcounter[example]
\stop
\stoptext
end example
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
Denis Maier schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 19:52:
I see. But there's no command that could be used to simulate an empty line?
If not, me should I perhaps try to replicate the wrapper structure from
the XML source in context? (I'll also look into the format module of
course.) What do you think?
Below is a different solution to your problem with works without
\startlines because you already mark up each individual line in the poem
which make it possible to add a linebreak in the output.
With \blank options (samepage) you can avoid pagebreaks between stanzas.
\startxmlsetups xml:test
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{*}{-}
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{doc|poem|stanza|line}{xml:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xml:test}
\startxmlsetups xml:doc
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:poem
\blank[line]
\xmlflush{#1}
\blank[back,line]
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:stanza
\xmlflush{#1}\blank[preference,line]
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:line
\xmlflush{#1}\blank[samepage,none]
\stopxmlsetups
\startbuffer[test]
The
lines
are
there!
The
lines
are
there!
The
lines
are
there!
\stopbuffer
\starttext
\samplefile{lorem}
\xmlprocessbuffer{test}{test}{}
\samplefile{lorem}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: Define a new command that inherits from multiple other command options
Thanks for your reply. The kanji part requires a specific font and typescript file, which I defined on my own computer but forgot to add to this example. This is something I didn't take into account. It's true, I need to think about what exactly my command needs, not build an all-powerful command. It's my poor consideration. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Define a new command that inherits from multiple other command options
> On 25 Apr 2024, at 09:24, ai2472206...@yeah.net wrote: > > But what I don't know is how to get it to inherit the options of other > commands and perform these features correctly. Your example didn't work for me - none of the Chinese|Japanese[1] characters showed. AFAIK there is no way to "inherit" functionality. You still need to write \setupsidenote to call \setupcounter, \setupframed at the right points to achieve the right effects. What you can do is have \setupsidenote accept all options in one big long list and then pass the ones that apply to setupcounter to each use of \setupcounter, pass on the ones that apply to setupframed to each use of \setupframed and so on. Thsi is releatively easy in Lua where you could define a list of all possible commands and which macro they apply to then loop through it looking to see if that option had been supplied and building a set of parameters for \setupframed, \setupcounter etc. Hope this makes sense. But I feel there's probably a better way - it's a lot of effort to go to in order to have a single "does it all macro" instead of calling two or three macros each time. Regards, [1] Apologies for my ignorance. — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: wrong spacing after command with optional arguments
On 4/26/24 19:50, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 19:04:
>> I tried this approach (I hope it isn’t wrong):
>>
>>\starttext
>>\expanded\tolerant\def\MyCommand#_#,#_#,#_#,#_{%
>
> The \expanded modifier is wrong (I guess you meant \unexpanded) but
> which check for the number of arguments you use doesn't matter in a
> document.
You are right, I meant \unexpanded.
> The LMTX version of the \iffourthargument etc. checks is the
> \ifarguments commands where you use \or to set a case for the number of
> argument passed.
Many thanks for explaining this too.
>> But what are these "#_" (which don’t seem to come from TeX)?
>
> Hans added many additions to command parameters in Luametatex and #_
> means the argument to a commands has to be enclosed in braces while #1
> allows you to pass text without it.
I get it now.
> You can find a list with all new command parameters in lowlevel-macros.pdf.
An interesting reading for the weekend.
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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[NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
Wolfgang Schuster hat am 26.04.2024 19:29 CEST geschrieben: Denis Maier schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 19:18: Wolfgang Schuster hat am 26.04.2024 18:24 CEST geschrieben: Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 18:10: Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> hat am 26.04.2024 17:25 CEST geschrieben: On 4/26/24 15:33, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote: Hi, I’m trying to typeset a poem from XML, but I can’t figure out how to make the inbetween key working here. As the source is XML, I cannot just add an empty line to start a new group of lines inside \startlines…\stoplines. I guess, there must be a command to do that, but \par seems to have no effect here. How can this be done? Hi Denis, I must confess I don’t get which is your actual question. \blank works here and you know that (since you included it in your code). MkIV with \par works in your sample and LMTX with \par doesn’t. I wonder whether this might be a bug in LMTX. Just in case it might help, Thanks for your answer and sorry for not being clearer. I was just wondering why the \par seems to have no effect. (I first guessed that it might be related to XML, to but then realized it happens with context markup as well. Usually, you won't run into this because an empty line works, but with XML that's not am option.) As you've said, it looks like a bug then. The lines environment treats each line of the input as paragraph by adding \par at the end of it and adding another \par makes no difference here. BTW: ConTeXt has a module for poems which can be loaded with \usemodule[format]. Wolfgang Ok. I'll have a look at this module. Just two questions: 1. so did this behavior change? 2. What is inbetween referring to then? If each line is a paragraph, what's this group of paragraphs then? Can you manually switch to the next one? The inbetween setting works because ConTeXt checks at the start of each line whether it's empty (in this case the value is used) or not. When you add a \par you just end the current line/paragraph and it doesn't matter how many \par's you use because TeX just ignores them. Wolfgang I see. But there's no command that could be used to simulate an empty line? If not, me should I perhaps try to replicate the wrapper structure from the XML source in context? (I'll also look into the format module of course.) What do you think? Thank you so much for your help. Best, Denis ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: wrong spacing after command with optional arguments
Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 19:04:
On 4/26/24 18:18, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 17:29:
What is wrong in my definition above?
There is nothing wrong, this is just a side effect of the scanner used
with the \do...groupempty commands. To have more control about this
behavior use the \tolerant modifier for \def to change it.
Many thanks for your reply, Wolfgang.
I tried this approach (I hope it isn’t wrong):
\starttext
\expanded\tolerant\def\MyCommand#_#,#_#,#_#,#_{%
\doiftextelse{#4}%
{#4}
{\doiftextelse{#3}
{#3}
{#2}}}
The \expanded modifier is wrong (I guess you meant \unexpanded) but
which check for the number of arguments you use doesn't matter in a
document.
The LMTX version of the \iffourthargument etc. checks is the
\ifarguments commands where you use \or to set a case for the number of
argument passed.
\protected\tolerant\def\MyCommand#_#,#_#,#_#,#_%
{\ifarguments
% no arguments are passed
\or
#1% one argument is passed
\or
#2% two arguments are passed
\or
#3% three arguments are passed
\or
#4% four arguments are passed
\fi}
\MyCommand{}{second}{third}{fourth},\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third}{fourth} e,\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third},\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third} e,\\
\MyCommand{}{second},\\
\MyCommand{}{second} e,\\
\stoptext
BTW, this is the first time I see #_ instead of #1.
There is no way to search for "#_" in the wiki.
Grepping the source, "#_" seems to be used for optional arguments
(mainly in syst-aux.mkxl).
But what are these "#_" (which don’t seem to come from TeX)?
Hans added many additions to command parameters in Luametatex and #_
means the argument to a commands has to be enclosed in braces while #1
allows you to pass text without it.
In the following example \CommandA take in the first case "a" as
argument while CommandB ignores it and would only accept "{a}" with
braces around it.
begin example
\def\CommandA#1{(#1)}
\tolerant\def\CommandB#_{(#1)}
\starttext
\CommandA abc\par
\CommandB abc\blank
\CommandA {ab}c\par
\CommandB {ab}c\blank
\stoptext
end example
You can find a list with all new command parameters in lowlevel-macros.pdf.
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
Denis Maier schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 19:18: Wolfgang Schuster hat am 26.04.2024 18:24 CEST geschrieben: Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 18:10: Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> hat am 26.04.2024 17:25 CEST geschrieben: On 4/26/24 15:33, denis.ma...@unibe.ch <mailto:denis.ma...@unibe.ch> wrote: Hi, I’m trying to typeset a poem from XML, but I can’t figure out how to make the inbetween key working here. As the source is XML, I cannot just add an empty line to start a new group of lines inside \startlines…\stoplines. I guess, there must be a command to do that, but \par seems to have no effect here. How can this be done? Hi Denis, I must confess I don’t get which is your actual question. \blank works here and you know that (since you included it in your code). MkIV with \par works in your sample and LMTX with \par doesn’t. I wonder whether this might be a bug in LMTX. Just in case it might help, Thanks for your answer and sorry for not being clearer. I was just wondering why the \par seems to have no effect. (I first guessed that it might be related to XML, to but then realized it happens with context markup as well. Usually, you won't run into this because an empty line works, but with XML that's not am option.) As you've said, it looks like a bug then. The lines environment treats each line of the input as paragraph by adding \par at the end of it and adding another \par makes no difference here. BTW: ConTeXt has a module for poems which can be loaded with \usemodule[format]. Wolfgang Ok. I'll have a look at this module. Just two questions: 1. so did this behavior change? 2. What is inbetween referring to then? If each line is a paragraph, what's this group of paragraphs then? Can you manually switch to the next one? The inbetween setting works because ConTeXt checks at the start of each line whether it's empty (in this case the value is used) or not. When you add a \par you just end the current line/paragraph and it doesn't matter how many \par's you use because TeX just ignores them. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
Wolfgang Schuster hat am 26.04.2024 18:24 CEST geschrieben: Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 18:10: Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> hat am 26.04.2024 17:25 CEST geschrieben: On 4/26/24 15:33, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote: Hi, I’m trying to typeset a poem from XML, but I can’t figure out how to make the inbetween key working here. As the source is XML, I cannot just add an empty line to start a new group of lines inside \startlines…\stoplines. I guess, there must be a command to do that, but \par seems to have no effect here. How can this be done? Hi Denis, I must confess I don’t get which is your actual question. \blank works here and you know that (since you included it in your code). MkIV with \par works in your sample and LMTX with \par doesn’t. I wonder whether this might be a bug in LMTX. Just in case it might help, Thanks for your answer and sorry for not being clearer. I was just wondering why the \par seems to have no effect. (I first guessed that it might be related to XML, to but then realized it happens with context markup as well. Usually, you won't run into this because an empty line works, but with XML that's not am option.) As you've said, it looks like a bug then. The lines environment treats each line of the input as paragraph by adding \par at the end of it and adding another \par makes no difference here. BTW: ConTeXt has a module for poems which can be loaded with \usemodule[format]. Wolfgang Ok. I'll have a look at this module. Just two questions: 1. so did this behavior change? 2. What is inbetween referring to then? If each line is a paragraph, what's this group of paragraphs then? Can you manually switch to the next one? Best, Denis ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: wrong spacing after command with optional arguments
On 4/26/24 18:18, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 17:29:
>> What is wrong in my definition above?
>
> There is nothing wrong, this is just a side effect of the scanner used
> with the \do...groupempty commands. To have more control about this
> behavior use the \tolerant modifier for \def to change it.
Many thanks for your reply, Wolfgang.
I tried this approach (I hope it isn’t wrong):
\starttext
\expanded\tolerant\def\MyCommand#_#,#_#,#_#,#_{%
\doiftextelse{#4}%
{#4}
{\doiftextelse{#3}
{#3}
{#2}}}
\MyCommand{}{second}{third}{fourth},\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third}{fourth} e,\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third},\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third} e,\\
\MyCommand{}{second},\\
\MyCommand{}{second} e,\\
\stoptext
BTW, this is the first time I see #_ instead of #1.
There is no way to search for "#_" in the wiki.
Grepping the source, "#_" seems to be used for optional arguments
(mainly in syst-aux.mkxl).
But what are these "#_" (which don’t seem to come from TeX)?
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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[NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 18:10: Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> hat am 26.04.2024 17:25 CEST geschrieben: On 4/26/24 15:33, denis.ma...@unibe.ch <mailto:denis.ma...@unibe.ch> wrote: Hi, I’m trying to typeset a poem from XML, but I can’t figure out how to make the inbetween key working here. As the source is XML, I cannot just add an empty line to start a new group of lines inside \startlines…\stoplines. I guess, there must be a command to do that, but \par seems to have no effect here. How can this be done? Hi Denis, I must confess I don’t get which is your actual question. \blank works here and you know that (since you included it in your code). MkIV with \par works in your sample and LMTX with \par doesn’t. I wonder whether this might be a bug in LMTX. Just in case it might help, Thanks for your answer and sorry for not being clearer. I was just wondering why the \par seems to have no effect. (I first guessed that it might be related to XML, to but then realized it happens with context markup as well. Usually, you won't run into this because an empty line works, but with XML that's not am option.) As you've said, it looks like a bug then. The lines environment treats each line of the input as paragraph by adding \par at the end of it and adding another \par makes no difference here. BTW: ConTeXt has a module for poems which can be loaded with \usemodule[format]. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> hat am 26.04.2024 17:25 CEST geschrieben: On 4/26/24 15:33, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote: Hi, I’m trying to typeset a poem from XML, but I can’t figure out how to make the inbetween key working here. As the source is XML, I cannot just add an empty line to start a new group of lines inside \startlines…\stoplines. I guess, there must be a command to do that, but \par seems to have no effect here. How can this be done? Hi Denis, I must confess I don’t get which is your actual question. \blank works here and you know that (since you included it in your code). MkIV with \par works in your sample and LMTX with \par doesn’t. I wonder whether this might be a bug in LMTX. Just in case it might help, Thanks for your answer and sorry for not being clearer. I was just wondering why the \par seems to have no effect. (I first guessed that it might be related to XML, to but then realized it happens with context markup as well. Usually, you won't run into this because an empty line works, but with XML that's not am option.) As you've said, it looks like a bug then. Thanks, Denis Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
On 4/26/24 15:33, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote: > Hi, > > I’m trying to typeset a poem from XML, but I can’t figure out how to > make the inbetween key working here. > > As the source is XML, I cannot just add an empty line to start a new > group of lines inside \startlines…\stoplines. I guess, there must be a > command to do that, but \par seems to have no effect here. > > How can this be done? Hi Denis, I must confess I don’t get which is your actual question. \blank works here and you know that (since you included it in your code). MkIV with \par works in your sample and LMTX with \par doesn’t. I wonder whether this might be a bug in LMTX. Just in case it might help, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \par and \startlines
Hi,
I'm trying to typeset a poem from XML, but I can't figure out how to make the
inbetween key working here.
As the source is XML, I cannot just add an empty line to start a new group of
lines inside \startlines...\stoplines. I guess, there must be a command to do
that, but \par seems to have no effect here.
How can this be done?
Best,
Denis
%%%
\setuplines[before={\blank},after={\blank},inbetween={ARE WE INBETWEEN?\blank}]
% XML Nodes auswählen
\startxmlsetups xml:test
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{*}{-}
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{doc|poem|stanza|line}{xml:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xml:test}
\startxmlsetups xml:doc
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:poem
\startlines
\xmlflush{#1}
\stoplines
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:stanza
\xmlflushlinewise{#1}\par %this has no effect
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:line
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startbuffer[test]
The
lines
are
there!
The
lines
are
there!
\stopbuffer
\starttext
This works:
\startlines
The
lines
are
there!
The
lines
are
there!
\stoplines
Apparently, \type{\par} has no effect here:
\startlines
The
lines
are
there!\par% \par has no effect here
The
lines
are
there!
\stoplines
For background, this is what I'm actually trying to do:
\xmlprocessbuffer{test}{test}{}
\stoptext
%%
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[NTG-context] Re: The graph is not visible.
Hi, Thanks for your help. I did several tests playing only with the code of component 5 which interferes with that of component 14. @Aditya begingroup; . endgroup; does not work. @Hans save defaultfont, defaultscale; maybe also: save circle, p, q, b ; I get an empty rectangle in place of the graph in composant 5. @Taco The solution that works is to add component 14 to the code numeric a, b; Fabrice Le ven. 26 avr. 2024 à 10:45, Aditya Mahajan a écrit : > On Fri, 26 Apr 2024, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > > > > > > > On 25 Apr 2024, at 23:12, Fabrice Couvreur < > fabrice1.couvr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > Here is the code that interferes with the graph from the last chapter > but why ? > > > > Because of this “path b”: > > > > > path circle, p, q, b; > > > > which interferes with the assignment line from the other graphic code: > > > > > b := xpart(reverse C_f intersectionpoint reverse C_g); > > > > because there “b” is a now a path, not a numeric. > > > > Adding > > > >numeric a,b; > > > > fixes the problem in chapter 14. > > Woundn't newnumeric be better? > > There are very few instances where I want variables defined in one block > to be reused in another block. So, I almost always use > > \startMPcode > begingroup; > > endgroup; > \stopMPcode > > to avoid such issues. > > > Aditya___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: start/stopregister
On 4/26/24 10:22 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: That's because mkii is AI enhanced. Can you try this: Ah, I see where I was wrong, thank you! I'm mapping from xml, so I became confused with the optional parameters that I write as attributes, with a number of ifs... But now it should be clear! All best Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: The graph is not visible.
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > > > On 25 Apr 2024, at 23:12, Fabrice Couvreur > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Here is the code that interferes with the graph from the last chapter but > > why ? > > Because of this “path b”: > > > path circle, p, q, b; > > which interferes with the assignment line from the other graphic code: > > > b := xpart(reverse C_f intersectionpoint reverse C_g); > > because there “b” is a now a path, not a numeric. > > Adding > >numeric a,b; > > fixes the problem in chapter 14. Woundn't newnumeric be better? There are very few instances where I want variables defined in one block to be reused in another block. So, I almost always use \startMPcode begingroup; endgroup; \stopMPcode to avoid such issues. Aditya___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: The graph is not visible.
> On 25 Apr 2024, at 23:12, Fabrice Couvreur > wrote: > > Hi, > Here is the code that interferes with the graph from the last chapter but why > ? Because of this “path b”: > path circle, p, q, b; which interferes with the assignment line from the other graphic code: > b := xpart(reverse C_f intersectionpoint reverse C_g); because there “b” is a now a path, not a numeric. Adding numeric a,b; fixes the problem in chapter 14. But why it does not affect chapters 6-13, that I do not understand. — Taco Hoekwater E: t...@bittext.nl genderfluid (all pronouns) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: The graph is not visible.
Hi,
Here is the code that interferes with the graph from the last chapter but
why ?
\startMPcode
pickup pencircle xscaled 1;
defaultfont := "texgyrepagella-regular*default" ;
defaultscale := 0.8 ;
path circle, p, q, b;
circle = fullcircle xscaled 5cm yscaled 3.5cm;
p = (point 2 of circle .. (-0.15cm,1.5cm)
..(0,0)..(0.15cm,-1.5cm).. point 6 of circle);
q = (subpath(0,2) of circle -- p -- subpath(6,8) of circle
--cycle);
b = (reverse p -- subpath(2,6) of circle -- cycle);
definecolor [ name = "mp:red", r = 1 ];
definecolor [ name = "mp:blue", r = 0.54, g = 0.17, b = 0.89 ];
fill q withcolor "mp:red" withtransparency(1,0.4) ;
fill b withcolor "mp:blue" withtransparency(1,0.4) ;
draw circle;
draw p;
label("$\overline{\text{A}}$",( 1.5cm,0));
label("$\text{A}$",(-1.5cm,0));
label.top("E",(0,1.85cm));
\stopMPcode
Le jeu. 25 avr. 2024 à 16:55, Fabrice Couvreur
a écrit :
> Hi Hans and Taco,
> @Hans, I compiled by commenting and uncommenting one component at a time;
> it is component 5 which interferes with the metapost code of component 14
> All I have to do now is find out what the cause is.
> Fabrice
>
> Le jeu. 25 avr. 2024 à 16:40, Taco Hoekwater a écrit :
>
>>
>>
>> > On 25 Apr 2024, at 16:08, Fabrice Couvreur
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Taco,
>> > I knew I wouldn't be able to explain what was happening.
>> > The code works perfectly and the figure is clearly visible in the
>> component chapter-14 :
>>
>> It is probably not related to the figure itself. Something may be
>> different in this component compared to the other ones. I cannot really
>> say, of course. Still, using external image instead of inline metapost may
>> be fix it. Not elegant, but if it works it works!
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Taco
>>
>>
>> >
>> > \startcomponent[chapter-14]
>> > \startMPpage
>> > ...
>> > \stopMPpage
>> > \stopcomponent
>> >
>> > But if I compile my project, it disappears !!
>> >
>> > \startproduct[terminale-manual]
>> > \startbodymatter
>> > \component[chapter-1]
>> > \component[chapter-2]
>> > \component[chapter-3]
>> > \component[chapter-4]
>> > \component[chapter-5]
>> > \component[chapter-6]
>> > \component[chapter-7]
>> > \component[chapter-8]
>> > \component[chapter-9]
>> > \component[chapter-10]
>> > \component[chapter-11]
>> > \component[chapter-12]
>> > \component[chapter-13]
>> > \component[chapter-14]
>> > \stopbodymatter
>> > \stopproduct
>>
>> —
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>> genderfluid (all pronouns)
>>
>>
>>
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[NTG-context] Re: start/stopregister
On 4/25/2024 4:51 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
On 25 Apr 2024, at 16:45, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On 4/25/24 16:13, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
I’m using it like
\startregister[index][bibliografie]{Bibliografie}
…
\stopregister[index][bibliografie]
i.e. very similar to your example, and can confirm it doesn’t result in a page
range in the index. Also gives no error.
Since I've become an expert on tuc files since yesterday (ha!): if I compare the tuc from
a mkiv and a mkxl run, I see that mkiv produces an entry ["lastrealpage"]=9 in
the references table, mkxl doesn't. This appears to be the relevant bit, and it is
connected with the replacement of realpageno by c_realpageno in line 638 of strc-reg.lmt
references.lastrealpage = texgetcount(c_realpageno)
Let's seen if we can make Thomas more of an expert as he's zooming in on
the issue:
extendregister {
metadata = { name = name },
references = { abel = label },
}
Let me know if you't see it.
Possibly related: I noticed last week that mkxl does not update the legacy
counter \pageno any more for every page.
i'll check it
Hans
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[NTG-context] Re: start/stopregister
> On 25 Apr 2024, at 16:45, Thomas A. Schmitz
> wrote:
>
> On 4/25/24 16:13, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> I’m using it like
>> \startregister[index][bibliografie]{Bibliografie}
>> …
>> \stopregister[index][bibliografie]
>> i.e. very similar to your example, and can confirm it doesn’t result in a
>> page range in the index. Also gives no error.
>
> Since I've become an expert on tuc files since yesterday (ha!): if I compare
> the tuc from a mkiv and a mkxl run, I see that mkiv produces an entry
> ["lastrealpage"]=9 in the references table, mkxl doesn't. This appears to be
> the relevant bit, and it is connected with the replacement of realpageno by
> c_realpageno in line 638 of strc-reg.lmt
>
> references.lastrealpage = texgetcount(c_realpageno)
Possibly related: I noticed last week that mkxl does not update the legacy
counter \pageno any more for every page.
Best wishes,
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[NTG-context] Re: start/stopregister
On 4/25/24 16:13, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
I’m using it like
\startregister[index][bibliografie]{Bibliografie}
…
\stopregister[index][bibliografie]
i.e. very similar to your example, and can confirm it doesn’t result in
a page range in the index. Also gives no error.
Since I've become an expert on tuc files since yesterday (ha!): if I
compare the tuc from a mkiv and a mkxl run, I see that mkiv produces an
entry ["lastrealpage"]=9 in the references table, mkxl doesn't. This
appears to be the relevant bit, and it is connected with the replacement
of realpageno by c_realpageno in line 638 of strc-reg.lmt
references.lastrealpage = texgetcount(c_realpageno)
But that's as far as I could get...
Thomas
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[NTG-context] Re: The graph is not visible.
Hi Taco, I knew I wouldn't be able to explain what was happening. The code works perfectly and the figure is clearly visible in the component chapter-14 : \startcomponent[chapter-14] \startMPpage ... \stopMPpage \stopcomponent But if I compile my project, it disappears !! \startproduct[terminale-manual] \startbodymatter \component[chapter-1] \component[chapter-2] \component[chapter-3] \component[chapter-4] \component[chapter-5] \component[chapter-6] \component[chapter-7] \component[chapter-8] \component[chapter-9] \component[chapter-10] \component[chapter-11] \component[chapter-12] \component[chapter-13] \component[chapter-14] \stopbodymatter \stopproduct Le jeu. 25 avr. 2024 à 13:36, Taco Hoekwater a écrit : > H Fabrice, > > You did not provide a good minimum test because the graph by itself > renders fine: > > > > Best wishes, > Taco > (if all else fails, you can replace \startMPcode with \startMPpage and > generate a standalone graph that way) > > > On 25 Apr 2024, at 12:27, Fabrice Couvreur > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I don't know if I can explain the problem I'm having. I made a project > with 14 chapters. In each of them, there are graphics embedding metapost > code. I proceed as follows : I compile each chapter alone with lmtx then I > compile the project containing the 14 chapters. I didn't encounter any > problems except with a graphic from the last chapter. It is indeed in > chapter 14 but not in the project ! I give the code for this graph. > > Thanks. > > Fabrice > > > > \startMPcode > > > >interim linejoin := mitered; > >interim ahangle := 30; > >numeric u, pi; > > > >pi = 3.141592653589793; > >u = 1.5cm; > > > >vardef graph_of_function (suffix f) (expr xmin, xmax, > xsep) = > > for x = xmin step xsep until xmax: (x, f(x)) .. endfor > (xmax, f(xmax)) > >enddef ; > > > >vardef vline (suffix f, g) (expr x) = (x, min(f(x), > g(x))) -- (x, max(f(x),g(x))) enddef; > > > >vardef area_between_functions (suffix f, g)(expr a, b, > xsep) = > > buildcycle(graph_of_function(f, a, b, xsep), vline(f, > g, b), > > reverse graph_of_function(g, a, b, xsep), reverse > vline(f, g, a)) > >enddef; > > > >vardef xaxis (expr xmin, xmax) = (xmin, 0) -- (xmax, 0) > enddef ; > >vardef yaxis (expr ymin, ymax) = (0, ymin) -- (0, ymax) > enddef ; > > > > > >xmin:=-pi/2; xmax := 3*pi/2; > >ymin := -1.5; ymax := 5; > > > > > >vardef f(expr x)= exp(-x)*(-cos(x)+sin(x)+1) enddef; > >vardef g(expr x)=-exp(-x)*cos(x) enddef; > >path C_f, C_g; > >C_f = graph_of_function(f,xmin, xmax, .1); > >C_g = graph_of_function(g, xmin, xmax, .1); > > > >a := xpart(C_f intersectionpoint C_g); > >b := xpart(reverse C_f intersectionpoint reverse C_g); > > > >fill (area_between_functions(f, g, a, b, 0.1)) scaled u > withcolor 0.4[white, blue]; > >draw C_f scaled u withcolor blue; > >draw C_g scaled u withcolor blue; > > > > > >\stopMPcode > > > ___ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry > to the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net > (mirror) > > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > > > ___ > > — > Taco Hoekwater E: t...@bittext.nl > genderfluid (all pronouns) > > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net &
[NTG-context] Re: The graph is not visible.
H Fabrice, You did not provide a good minimum test because the graph by itself renders fine: fabr.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document Best wishes, Taco (if all else fails, you can replace \startMPcode with \startMPpage and generate a standalone graph that way) > On 25 Apr 2024, at 12:27, Fabrice Couvreur > wrote: > > Hi, > I don't know if I can explain the problem I'm having. I made a project with > 14 chapters. In each of them, there are graphics embedding metapost code. I > proceed as follows : I compile each chapter alone with lmtx then I compile > the project containing the 14 chapters. I didn't encounter any problems > except with a graphic from the last chapter. It is indeed in chapter 14 but > not in the project ! I give the code for this graph. > Thanks. > Fabrice > > \startMPcode > >interim linejoin := mitered; >interim ahangle := 30; >numeric u, pi; > >pi = 3.141592653589793; >u = 1.5cm; > >vardef graph_of_function (suffix f) (expr xmin, xmax, xsep) = > for x = xmin step xsep until xmax: (x, f(x)) .. endfor > (xmax, f(xmax)) >enddef ; > >vardef vline (suffix f, g) (expr x) = (x, min(f(x), g(x))) -- > (x, max(f(x),g(x))) enddef; > >vardef area_between_functions (suffix f, g)(expr a, b, xsep) = > buildcycle(graph_of_function(f, a, b, xsep), vline(f, g, > b), > reverse graph_of_function(g, a, b, xsep), reverse vline(f, > g, a)) >enddef; > >vardef xaxis (expr xmin, xmax) = (xmin, 0) -- (xmax, 0) enddef > ; >vardef yaxis (expr ymin, ymax) = (0, ymin) -- (0, ymax) enddef > ; > > >xmin:=-pi/2; xmax := 3*pi/2; >ymin := -1.5; ymax := 5; > > >vardef f(expr x)= exp(-x)*(-cos(x)+sin(x)+1) enddef; >vardef g(expr x)=-exp(-x)*cos(x) enddef; >path C_f, C_g; >C_f = graph_of_function(f,xmin, xmax, .1); >C_g = graph_of_function(g, xmin, xmax, .1); > >a := xpart(C_f intersectionpoint C_g); >b := xpart(reverse C_f intersectionpoint reverse C_g); > >fill (area_between_functions(f, g, a, b, 0.1)) scaled u > withcolor 0.4[white, blue]; >draw C_f scaled u withcolor blue; >draw C_g scaled u withcolor blue; > > >\stopMPcode > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > ___ — Taco Hoekwater E: t...@bittext.nl genderfluid (all pronouns) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] The graph is not visible.
Hi, I don't know if I can explain the problem I'm having. I made a project with 14 chapters. In each of them, there are graphics embedding metapost code. I proceed as follows : I compile each chapter alone with lmtx then I compile the project containing the 14 chapters. I didn't encounter any problems except with a graphic from the last chapter. It is indeed in chapter 14 but not in the project ! I give the code for this graph. Thanks. Fabrice \startMPcode interim linejoin := mitered; interim ahangle := 30; numeric u, pi; pi = 3.141592653589793; u = 1.5cm; vardef graph_of_function (suffix f) (expr xmin, xmax, xsep) = for x = xmin step xsep until xmax: (x, f(x)) .. endfor (xmax, f(xmax)) enddef ; vardef vline (suffix f, g) (expr x) = (x, min(f(x), g(x))) -- (x, max(f(x),g(x))) enddef; vardef area_between_functions (suffix f, g)(expr a, b, xsep) = buildcycle(graph_of_function(f, a, b, xsep), vline(f, g, b), reverse graph_of_function(g, a, b, xsep), reverse vline(f, g, a)) enddef; vardef xaxis (expr xmin, xmax) = (xmin, 0) -- (xmax, 0) enddef ; vardef yaxis (expr ymin, ymax) = (0, ymin) -- (0, ymax) enddef ; xmin:=-pi/2; xmax := 3*pi/2; ymin := -1.5; ymax := 5; vardef f(expr x)= exp(-x)*(-cos(x)+sin(x)+1) enddef; vardef g(expr x)=-exp(-x)*cos(x) enddef; path C_f, C_g; C_f = graph_of_function(f,xmin, xmax, .1); C_g = graph_of_function(g, xmin, xmax, .1); a := xpart(C_f intersectionpoint C_g); b := xpart(reverse C_f intersectionpoint reverse C_g); fill (area_between_functions(f, g, a, b, 0.1)) scaled u withcolor 0.4[white, blue]; draw C_f scaled u withcolor blue; draw C_g scaled u withcolor blue; \stopMPcode ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Define a new command that inherits from multiple other command options
hi!
I'm new to ConTeXt. I want to define a command with sidenote function. This
[setupsidenote] command inherits the options of [setupmargindata],
[setupcounter] and [setupframed]. just like [setupenumeration] inherits the
option of [setupcounter].
I've defined the following sidenote command by searching, and I know how to
define a new option for it. But what I don't know is how to get it to inherit
the options of other commands and perform these features correctly.
Any clue is warmly welcome.
```
% macros=mkvi
\unprotect
\installnamespace {sidenote}
\installcommandhandler \sidenote {sidenote} \sidenote
\setupsidenote[
align=,
conversion=n,
way=bytext,
style=,
]
\definecounter[SidenoteMarkNumber] [prefix=no]
\definemargindata [SidenoteContent][outer]
[margin=margin,width=\outermarginwidth]
\setupmargindata [SidenoteContent][stack=yes,style=\it]
\def\sidenotemark{\rawcountervalue[SidenoteMarkNumber]}
\def\convertsidenotemark#1{\high{\convertnumber{#1}{\sidenotemark}}}
\def\sidenote{\dosingleempty\dosidenote}
\def\dosidenote[#1]#2{%
\getparameters[SMsidenote]
[align=\sidenoteparameter{align},
conversion=\sidenoteparameter{conversion},
way=\sidenoteparameter{way},
#1]%
\setupcounter[SidenoteMarkNumber] [#1]
\incrementcounter[SidenoteMarkNumber]
\convertsidenotemark{\SMsidenoteconversion}% mark in text
\SidenoteContent[#1]{\setscript[hanzi]\setup[\SMsidenotealign]%
\convertsidenotemark{\SMsidenoteconversion}% mark with
note
#2
}}
\protect
\starttext
天地玄黄，宇宙洪荒。日月盈昃，辰宿列张。寒来暑往，秋收冬\sidenote[align=flushleft] {天地玄黄，宇宙洪荒。}
\stoptext
```
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[NTG-context] Re: documentation: parameters of \setuplist
Am 23.04.24 um 23:14 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 23.04.2024 um 21:43: Am 22.04.24 um 18:09 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: I tried to complete https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist, but I don’t understand all parameters. Can anyone explain these please: * state (start stop): what does this en-/disable? collecting entries? * label (yes no none Name): language dependent labels? as a prefix or what? You can use the key to set language dependent texts for the section counters in the list entry, with "yes" the values from the document are used but you can also set whatever label you want. Thank you! So it is related to \setuplabeltext as I suspected, while I didn’t understand why we need label _and_ prefix, until I recognized there’s only pageprefix… (I had prefix in my list of parameters, maybe some MkII leftover). \setuplabeltext [en] [chapter=Chapter , appendix=Appendix , hraban=Hraban ] %\setuplist[chapter][label=hraban,width=3cm] \setuplist[chapter][label=yes,width=3cm] Yes, now I understand. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: utiliydata
On 4/24/2024 5:41 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, I’m slightly embarrassed because this should be easy, but I can’t figure out how to do this: in the tuc/tua file, I have the complete references of my document. How can I access it from within my Lua code? For instance, something like utilitydata.structures.references.collected.”MyReference”.references.realpage How can this be accessed? grep for "job." (i bet you can figure it out and compensate the embaressment that way) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] utiliydata
Hi all, I’m slightly embarrassed because this should be easy, but I can’t figure out how to do this: in the tuc/tua file, I have the complete references of my document. How can I access it from within my Lua code? For instance, something like utilitydata.structures.references.collected.”MyReference”.references.realpage How can this be accessed? Thanks a lot and best wishes Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: documentation: parameters of \setuplist
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 23.04.2024 um 21:43:
Am 22.04.24 um 18:09 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
I tried to complete https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist,
but I don’t understand all parameters.
Can anyone explain these please:
* state (start stop): what does this en-/disable? collecting entries?
* label (yes no none Name): language dependent labels? as a prefix or
what?
You can use the key to set language dependent texts for the section
counters in the list entry, with "yes" the values from the document are
used but you can also set whatever label you want.
\setuplabeltext
[en]
[chapter=Chapter ,
appendix=Appendix ,
hraban=Hraban ]
%\setuplist[chapter][label=hraban,width=3cm]
\setuplist[chapter][label=yes,width=3cm]
\starttext
\startfrontmatter
\completecontent
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
\chapter{First chapter}
\chapter{Second chapter}
\stopbodymatter
\startappendices
\chapter{First appendix}
\stopappendices
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: Why don't footnotes appear in floats or figures?
I've managed to get a minimum working example. If you check, you'll see the
5th footnote inside a placefigure doesn't render anywhere:
\starttext
\input knuth
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
A}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\input knuth
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
B}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\input knuth
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
C}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\input knuth
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
D}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\input knuth
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
E}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\input knuth
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
F}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoptext
Is this the correct way to be using the \startpostponing code (see example
below)?
\starttext
\input knuth
\startpostponing
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
A}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoppostponing
\stoppostponing
\input knuth
\startpostponing
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
B}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoppostponing
\input knuth
\startpostponing
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
C}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoppostponing
\input knuth
\startpostponing
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
D}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoppostponing
\input knuth
\startpostponing
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
E}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoppostponing
\input knuth
\startpostponing
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
F}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoppostponing
\stoptext
On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 02:31:30 AM MDT, Hans Hagen via ntg-context
wrote:
On 4/22/2024 2:45 AM, Joel via ntg-context wrote:
> I'm three days out from sending my work to an editor, and found some
> serious problem: many footnotes just aren't rendering.
>
> I have a history text that uses ConTeXt-SBL for the citations, as such,
> it has lots of footnotes. Sometimes the footnotes are just in the main
> text, but sometimes also in figure captions, inside floats, inside
> tables that are inside floats, inside tabulations inside floats, etc.
>
> What I find alarming is it is frequently not rendering all of the
> footnote messages at the bottom of the page. The actual footnote number
> within the body is rendered, but no number is listed in at the bottom of
> the page. So I might see a list of footnotes, for instance, on page 1, I
> only get footnotes 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6, but 4 was mysteriously skipped.
>
>
> ---
> 1 message
> 2 message
> 3 message
> 5 message
> 6 message
>
> After a lot of trial-and-error and checking logs and checking my BibTeX
> files for errors, running everything through BibTex Tidy, etc., and
> failures to make a minimum working example, I found a single pattern:
>
> If the footnote marker appears on the SAME page as the footnote text, it
> has no problem rendering the footnote. But, if ConTeXt decides to move a
> float a page or two later on--as it frequently seems to do---such that
> the footnote marker and footnote text at bottom of page should be on
> DIFFERENT pages, the footnote message at the bottom of the page won't
> render.
>
> I've seen some 2+ year old mailing list posts suggesting ConTeXt might
> have issues with footnotes; they appear to be similar to my issue--is
> that still a problem? Is there a fix or workaround? Old fixes I could
> finding in the mailing list don't seem to work with current versions of
> ConTeXt anymore.
you need to consider the complications of such notes ...
- tex needs to take the notes into account when determining a page break
- it does so by the insert mechanism
- when floats can't be placed they also become inserts (top and bottom)
- when there are inserts in inserts th eproblem becomes more complex (so
notes inside floats)
- in traditional tex deeply burried inserts disappearm less so in lmtx
There are things that are hard to get right. This works:
\startpostponing
\startplacefigure[location=here,title={test \footnote{oeps 1}}]
\blackrule[width=1tw]
here
\footnote{hello 1} and
\footnote{hello 2} and
\footnote{hello 3} done
\stopplacefigure
\stoppostponing
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{tufte}\par}
Because here the inserts (notes) will migrate but even then one can get
them out of order (unless we renumber, which then is sensitiev for
oscillation).
I occasionally wonder if top floats could be done more directly but
bottom notes still would have an out-of-sync problem
-
Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
Ridd
[NTG-context] Re: Why don't footnotes appear in floats or figures?
On 4/22/2024 2:45 AM, Joel via ntg-context wrote:
I'm three days out from sending my work to an editor, and found some
serious problem: many footnotes just aren't rendering.
I have a history text that uses ConTeXt-SBL for the citations, as such,
it has lots of footnotes. Sometimes the footnotes are just in the main
text, but sometimes also in figure captions, inside floats, inside
tables that are inside floats, inside tabulations inside floats, etc.
What I find alarming is it is frequently not rendering all of the
footnote messages at the bottom of the page. The actual footnote number
within the body is rendered, but no number is listed in at the bottom of
the page. So I might see a list of footnotes, for instance, on page 1, I
only get footnotes 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6, but 4 was mysteriously skipped.
---
1 message
2 message
3 message
5 message
6 message
After a lot of trial-and-error and checking logs and checking my BibTeX
files for errors, running everything through BibTex Tidy, etc., and
failures to make a minimum working example, I found a single pattern:
If the footnote marker appears on the SAME page as the footnote text, it
has no problem rendering the footnote. But, if ConTeXt decides to move a
float a page or two later on--as it frequently seems to do---such that
the footnote marker and footnote text at bottom of page should be on
DIFFERENT pages, the footnote message at the bottom of the page won't
render.
I've seen some 2+ year old mailing list posts suggesting ConTeXt might
have issues with footnotes; they appear to be similar to my issue--is
that still a problem? Is there a fix or workaround? Old fixes I could
finding in the mailing list don't seem to work with current versions of
ConTeXt anymore.
you need to consider the complications of such notes ...
- tex needs to take the notes into account when determining a page break
- it does so by the insert mechanism
- when floats can't be placed they also become inserts (top and bottom)
- when there are inserts in inserts th eproblem becomes more complex (so
notes inside floats)
- in traditional tex deeply burried inserts disappearm less so in lmtx
There are things that are hard to get right. This works:
\startpostponing
\startplacefigure[location=here,title={test \footnote{oeps 1}}]
\blackrule[width=1tw]
here
\footnote{hello 1} and
\footnote{hello 2} and
\footnote{hello 3} done
\stopplacefigure
\stoppostponing
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{tufte}\par}
Because here the inserts (notes) will migrate but even then one can get
them out of order (unless we renumber, which then is sensitiev for
oscillation).
I occasionally wonder if top floats could be done more directly but
bottom notes still would have an out-of-sync problem
-
Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl
-
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[NTG-context] Re: Why don't footnotes appear in floats or figures?
On 4/22/24 02:45, Joel via ntg-context wrote: > I'm three days out from sending my work to an editor, and found some > serious problem: many footnotes just aren't rendering. Joel, please provide a minimal sample, otherwise it is really hard to help. > I've seen some 2+ year old mailing list posts suggesting ConTeXt might > have issues with footnotes; they appear to be similar to my issue--is > that still a problem? Is there a fix or workaround? Old fixes I could > finding in the mailing list don't seem to work with current versions of > ConTeXt anymore. \postponenotes and \flushnotes might be an option. \setlocalfootnotes and \placelocalfootnotes might be another option. Just in case it might help, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Why don't footnotes appear in floats or figures?
I'm three days out from sending my work to an editor, and found some serious problem: many footnotes just aren't rendering. I have a history text that uses ConTeXt-SBL for the citations, as such, it has lots of footnotes. Sometimes the footnotes are just in the main text, but sometimes also in figure captions, inside floats, inside tables that are inside floats, inside tabulations inside floats, etc. What I find alarming is it is frequently not rendering all of the footnote messages at the bottom of the page. The actual footnote number within the body is rendered, but no number is listed in at the bottom of the page. So I might see a list of footnotes, for instance, on page 1, I only get footnotes 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6, but 4 was mysteriously skipped. ---1 message2 message3 message5 message6 message After a lot of trial-and-error and checking logs and checking my BibTeX files for errors, running everything through BibTex Tidy, etc., and failures to make a minimum working example, I found a single pattern: If the footnote marker appears on the SAME page as the footnote text, it has no problem rendering the footnote. But, if ConTeXt decides to move a float a page or two later on--as it frequently seems to do---such that the footnote marker and footnote text at bottom of page should be on DIFFERENT pages, the footnote message at the bottom of the page won't render. I've seen some 2+ year old mailing list posts suggesting ConTeXt might have issues with footnotes; they appear to be similar to my issue--is that still a problem? Is there a fix or workaround? Old fixes I could finding in the mailing list don't seem to work with current versions of ConTeXt anymore. --Joel___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: [off topic] non-English programming languages: Arab and Cuneiform
Oh, I do, fascinating stuff! Regarding languages, I also came by a very interesting writing system, called Ditema tsa Dinoko, designed to write different african languages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ditema_tsa_Dinoko Not really a programming language, but I could see one developing from this, and it would be gorgeous. El sáb, 20 abr 2024 a las 16:52, Henning Hraban Ramm () escribió: > Came across this, I guess some of you might find it interesting: > > https://nas.sr/%D9%82%D9%84%D8%A8/ > > https://github.com/MrLogarithm/emeszida > > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > > ___ > -- Andrés Conrado Montoya Andi Kú andresconr...@gmail.com http://sesentaycuatro.com http://messier87.com http://chiquitico.org Los fines no justifican los medios, porque la medida verdadera de nuestro carácter está dada por los medios que estamos dispuestos a utilizar, no por los fines que proclamamos. “You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch.’” — Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: How to isolate serious errors from warnings?
> On 18 Apr 2024, at 01:09, Joel via ntg-context wrote: ... > Or maybe to use > to send the errors to another file for careful study? > (using Linux if that matters) You can run the job from the command line and redirect to a file: $ context file.tex > output.log 2>&1 but that is essentially the same as the .log file that is produced by default when you run from the command line. As your book is large you could try adding \writestatus commands at suitable points so that when your messages appear in the log you know that processing reached that far in the book. Also you could use \writestatus to output messages before and after known problem areas so you can look to see if there is any telltale output in the log and then search for that elsewhere. HTH — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: How to isolate serious errors from warnings?
On 4/18/2024 8:26 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 18.04.24 um 02:09 schrieb Joel via ntg-context: I'm about to have a lengthy (2,000+ page) document published. Normally if it compiles and looks okay, I regard that as meaning no errors appeared, but I've noticed that sometimes ConTeXt will still compile, even if something isn't displayed on screen as it should: (1) I tried placing a table inside a startitemize environment, as instead of it not compiling, it left a message in the document warning that wasn't supported. (2) In another case, I had an image that ConTeXt couldn't find, as I mispelled the filenmame, and it fully compiled and made a PDF, without me noticing. (3) Or maybe in some case, a font couldn't be found for a specific character, so a single character in the file isn't displaying. Those are just some examples; I intended for something to be printed on the PDF, but it isn't showing there. Since a document of this size will have a lot of messages, is there a way to adjust the settings, from "show everything" to "show some" to "show only serious errors"? Or maybe to use > to send the errors to another file for careful study? (using Linux if that matters) You can enable trackers like \enabletrackers[figures.*] But that just gives more log messages for debugging. You get the list of all trackers with: context --global m-trackers.mkiv For your use case, directives are more helpful, like \enabledirectives[logs.errors=*] (i.e. break at every error) AFAIK that just handles missing characters, references and modules ATM, but this information might be outdated. You get all directives with context --global m-directives.mkiv often the log files has some summaries at the end - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: How to isolate serious errors from warnings?
Am 18.04.24 um 02:09 schrieb Joel via ntg-context: I'm about to have a lengthy (2,000+ page) document published. Normally if it compiles and looks okay, I regard that as meaning no errors appeared, but I've noticed that sometimes ConTeXt will still compile, even if something isn't displayed on screen as it should: (1) I tried placing a table inside a startitemize environment, as instead of it not compiling, it left a message in the document warning that wasn't supported. (2) In another case, I had an image that ConTeXt couldn't find, as I mispelled the filenmame, and it fully compiled and made a PDF, without me noticing. (3) Or maybe in some case, a font couldn't be found for a specific character, so a single character in the file isn't displaying. Those are just some examples; I intended for something to be printed on the PDF, but it isn't showing there. Since a document of this size will have a lot of messages, is there a way to adjust the settings, from "show everything" to "show some" to "show only serious errors"? Or maybe to use > to send the errors to another file for careful study? (using Linux if that matters) You can enable trackers like \enabletrackers[figures.*] But that just gives more log messages for debugging. You get the list of all trackers with: context --global m-trackers.mkiv For your use case, directives are more helpful, like \enabledirectives[logs.errors=*] (i.e. break at every error) AFAIK that just handles missing characters, references and modules ATM, but this information might be outdated. You get all directives with context --global m-directives.mkiv Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] How to isolate serious errors from warnings?
I'm about to have a lengthy (2,000+ page) document published. Normally if it compiles and looks okay, I regard that as meaning no errors appeared, but I've noticed that sometimes ConTeXt will still compile, even if something isn't displayed on screen as it should: (1) I tried placing a table inside a startitemize environment, as instead of it not compiling, it left a message in the document warning that wasn't supported. (2) In another case, I had an image that ConTeXt couldn't find, as I mispelled the filenmame, and it fully compiled and made a PDF, without me noticing. (3) Or maybe in some case, a font couldn't be found for a specific character, so a single character in the file isn't displaying. Those are just some examples; I intended for something to be printed on the PDF, but it isn't showing there. Since a document of this size will have a lot of messages, is there a way to adjust the settings, from "show everything" to "show some" to "show only serious errors"? Or maybe to use > to send the errors to another file for careful study? (using Linux if that matters) --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
Le 17/04/2024 à 13:57, Bruce Horrocks a écrit : On 14 Apr 2024, at 12:21, garu...@azules.eu wrote: Hi all, I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : I'd be more confident if you had started by saying "I've been using the Diátaxis for the last ten years and have used it on multiple projects". ;-) - https://www.diataxis.fr/ - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 2017 As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation by clarifying the purpose of each element. So I started a potential new "welcome page" : https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 The main lines would be : - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal with "how-to" cases, e.g. : - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to reallocate existing contents. Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. I'm going to be devil's advocate and say that the Context documentation is *already* in the Diátaxis framework - just not in one place on the Wiki. - There are at least two books, and a third being written but not yet released: these fit into the Tutorials and Explanation quadrants. - There are "My Way" guides linked from the Wiki and the PragmaADE website that fit into the "How-To Guides" quadrant. - thank you for these reminders - And the wiki itself is the "Reference" quadrant. Clearly these can always be better but they are there already. My recommendation would be to use the wiki as the reference quadrant and, apart from the first few "main pages" for people who land there from a web search, it should focus on being the reference manual. Beginners should be directed to the books. - Thanks again, the comments are helping to identify a robust method of distributing content across the quadrants. - exactly, it's not a question of proposing new documents, but of proposing another complementary way of accessing and browsing existing ones. - Actually, the wiki is (or can be) a hub for the 4 needs: - "Reference" like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead - "How-To Guides" like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles - "Tutorials": - hosted https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Detailed_Example - linked https://github.com/mpsmath/stepbystep - "Explanation" : mostly linked manuals and books https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead and https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles are examples of how difficult it can be to understand where to find a particular information. It might be worth keeping only the key examples on reference pages like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/*** and moving the "how-to" examples to a separate page (or pages). Regards, — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
> On 14 Apr 2024, at 12:21, garu...@azules.eu wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : I'd be more confident if you had started by saying "I've been using the Diátaxis for the last ten years and have used it on multiple projects". ;-) > - https://www.diataxis.fr/ > - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon > 2017 > > As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation > by clarifying the purpose of each element. > > So I started a potential new "welcome page" : > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 > > The main lines would be : > - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples > - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... > - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals > - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to > mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source > - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands > - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F > > To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should > be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", > for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal > with "how-to" cases, e.g. : > - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead > - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles > > If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to > reallocate existing contents. > > Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. I'm going to be devil's advocate and say that the Context documentation is *already* in the Diátaxis framework - just not in one place on the Wiki. - There are at least two books, and a third being written but not yet released: these fit into the Tutorials and Explanation quadrants. - There are "My Way" guides linked from the Wiki and the PragmaADE website that fit into the "How-To Guides" quadrant. - And the wiki itself is the "Reference" quadrant. Clearly these can always be better but they are there already. My recommendation would be to use the wiki as the reference quadrant and, apart from the first few "main pages" for people who land there from a web search, it should focus on being the reference manual. Beginners should be directed to the books. Regards, — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Most recent context doesn't like synctex?
I made it work with Pulsar and the pdfjs-viewer plugin: The sourcecode of the plugin is broken but easily fixable: https://github.com/allefeld/atom-pdfjs-viewer/issues/15 Then pdf->tex works with synctex from TeX live, "--synctex=repeat" and a right click in the viewer. Sigh, should I learn TypeScript to adopt the viewer plugin and enable my language-context-lmtx* plugin to run ConTeXt and SyncTeX? (I’ve already too many projects and not enough brain capacity.) Hraban *) https://codeberg.org/fiee/language-context-lmtx ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Most recent context doesn't like synctex?
Hi Mikael (and other synctex users), On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 22:28 (+0200), Mikael Sundqvist wrote: > Hi, > On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 7:54 PM Jim wrote: >> Thanks for the quick reply. >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 09:18 (+0200), Hans Hagen wrote: >>> On 4/13/2024 12:39 AM, Jim wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I have both TeXlive 2024 and the stand-alone ConTeXt distribution on my >>>> system. >>>> Recently, the stand-alone ConTeXt distribution seems to not create a >>>> synctex file any more. Specifically, >>>> /usr/local/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/context --once --texutil >>>> --synctex=1 --nonstop file.tex >>>> does not create a .synctex file (and deletes it, if it is there), whereas >>>> the TeXlive version >>>> /usr/local/texlive/2024/bin/x86_64-linux/context --once --texutil >>>> --synctex=1 --nonstop nwg_newsletter_2024_04.tex >>>> does create the .synctex file. >>>> The ConTeXt distribution version *does* create the file if --nonstop is >>>> *not* used. Knowing that, I can work around this for now, although >>>> emacs+auctex probably won't be happy without --nonstop. >>>> I updated the stand-alone ConTeXt a few minutes ago, so I'm up to date on >>>> that. >>>> Is this a bug introduced by some recent change? >>> it's more a feature >> I guess one person's bug is another person's feature. :-) >>> - Mikael S and i spend some time with editor/viewer combinations on linux in >>> order to find ways around the different synctex libs that they use >>> - as a result we could make most work ok >> Are these recent changes? And should emacs+auctex+PDFview work now? > What will work will depend on the viewers. We noticed a few weeks ago > that synctex (pdf -> editor) was not working in a few viewers (okular) > while it was working in others. After some debugging, our conclusion > was that different versions of the library/application were used, or > different approaches. We found a way to generate the stuff in the pdf > to make it work for the failing viewers we had. Hans did then not > replace this with the old approach, since then the previously working > viewers might break. He therefore added repeat as a key, so > \setupsynctex[state=repeat] will use the new approach. Thanks for that clarification. >>> - we assume that synctex is set up in the document with >>> \setupsynctex[state=start] >>> \setupsynctex[state=repeat] % less efficient but gets around issue >> I haven't been using either of those, since auctex does The Right Thing for >> me. Or, at least, it used to. >>> - when context is run 'headless' (on a server) it's often done in >>> batchmode because one knows that the style works and in that case synctex >>> makes no sense so we disable it; this avoids the need to patch the style >> I (think I) see what you are saying, but if one explicitly uses --synctex >> on the command line, should that not over-ride the over-ride? Or, put >> another way, would the following not make sense: >> if --synctex is used on the command line >> create synctex file >> else if --nonstop is used on the command line >> do not create the synctex file >> else if \setupsynctex[...] is used in the source file >> create the synctex file >> else >> do not create the synctex file >>> - the manual has been updates > workflows-synctex.tex now suggests: > "When your viewer doesn't return to the editor, you can try > \starttyping > \setupsynctex[state=repeat] > \stoptyping > or > \starttyping > context --synctex=repeat somefile.tex > \stoptyping > This will give a bit larger file that tries to fool the areas resolver in the > library that the viewer uses." Looking at two synctex files, it would seem that the state=repeat version creates a synctex file that has syntax matching the "original" synctex format. And you are right, the file is bigger. In any case, now that I know what is going on, I have convinced auctex to play nicely with the new way of doing things, and so all is now good. Question for anyone who made it down this far: Is there a mailing list or other way that a ConTeXt user can find out about non-backward-compatible changes like this? I wasted a fair amount of time tracking this problem down (*), and if there is some other mailing list I should be subscribed to, I'd love to know about it. (*) Unfortunately, this change to ConTeXt happened around the same time I upgraded emacs from 27.2 to 29.3, and when things didn't work I upgraded auctex from 13.
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
It would be great if the main page actually said what Context does. > On 15/04/2024, at 2:18 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > > Hi Garulfo, > > I’m not against the “new order”, but I’d keep the colorful subject tiles. > Different accesses are good IMO (as long as it doesn’t get to convoluted). > > I’d say updating, sorting, restructuring pages is more important than a new > start page. > > Yes, please sort out reference vs. tutorials! > > Often examples make sense in the reference pages, so the distinction is a bit > fuzzy, but there are enough where a subject/tutorial page would make more > sense than examples spread over several single command pages. > > We could also define if the “main” reference page (with examples) is > \definestuff, \setupstuff, or \stuff – IMO \setupstuff makes the most sense, > since usually the others inherit from it. > > Often enough, parameters aren’t explained in the reference pages; sometimes > you can find examples using them, but there are too many holes. I tried to > fix that where I could, but too often I don’t understand enough of the > sources to make sense of some setting. > > For wiki contributors, it might make sense to combine the markup pages – in > many pages e.g. is used where would make more > sense; often \starttext … \stoptext is not necessary and just blows up > examples; markup is generally somewhat chaotic (e.g. , , or ``?). > > Hraban > >> Am 14.04.24 um 13:21 schrieb garu...@azules.eu: >> I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : >> - https://www.diataxis.fr/ >> - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon >> 2017 >> As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the >> documentation by clarifying the purpose of each element. >> So I started a potential new "welcome page" : >> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 >> The main lines would be : >> - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples >> - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not >> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... >> - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals >> - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to >> mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source >> - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands >> - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F >> To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages >> should be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", >> for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to >> deal with "how-to" cases, e.g. : >> - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead >> - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles >> If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to >> reallocate existing contents. >> Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. >> Garulfo >> ___ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl >> webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) >> archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context >> wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net >> ___ > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
Hi Garulfo, I’m not against the “new order”, but I’d keep the colorful subject tiles. Different accesses are good IMO (as long as it doesn’t get to convoluted). I’d say updating, sorting, restructuring pages is more important than a new start page. Yes, please sort out reference vs. tutorials! Often examples make sense in the reference pages, so the distinction is a bit fuzzy, but there are enough where a subject/tutorial page would make more sense than examples spread over several single command pages. We could also define if the “main” reference page (with examples) is \definestuff, \setupstuff, or \stuff – IMO \setupstuff makes the most sense, since usually the others inherit from it. Often enough, parameters aren’t explained in the reference pages; sometimes you can find examples using them, but there are too many holes. I tried to fix that where I could, but too often I don’t understand enough of the sources to make sense of some setting. For wiki contributors, it might make sense to combine the markup pages – in many pages e.g. is used where would make more sense; often \starttext … \stoptext is not necessary and just blows up examples; markup is generally somewhat chaotic (e.g. , , or ``?). Hraban Am 14.04.24 um 13:21 schrieb garu...@azules.eu: I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : - https://www.diataxis.fr/ - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 2017 As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation by clarifying the purpose of each element. So I started a potential new "welcome page" : https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 The main lines would be : - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal with "how-to" cases, e.g. : - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to reallocate existing contents. Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. Garulfo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - question about Command/ pages which start with a space character
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 14.04.2024 um 14:53: Am 14.04.24 um 14:46 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: garu...@azules.eu schrieb am 14.04.2024 um 12:41: Hi all, Is it on purpose that 128 pages "https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/ " start with a space character ? I didn't find an explanation in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command For example, these two pages exist : - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_startbuffer If it is on purpose: - What is the purpose, and which page should contain which documentation? The command pages which start with an underscore are probably leftovers when Taco changed a page from manual command descriptions to auto generated tables. In the process to change the page he makes a copy of the current page with an underscore at the beginning which is deleted after the change but it's possible he forgot to delete a few of them. When you notice no difference between both versions of a command page you can delete all of the forgotten pages. No! These are the general pages in opposite to instance pages, e.g. "startsection" and "startchapter" are instances of "_startsection"? https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_placefloat is the general page for the instances placefigure, placetable etc. My bad, thank you for the correction! Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - question about Command/ pages which start with a space character
Am 14.04.24 um 14:46 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: garu...@azules.eu schrieb am 14.04.2024 um 12:41: Hi all, Is it on purpose that 128 pages "https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/ " start with a space character ? I didn't find an explanation in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command For example, these two pages exist : - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_startbuffer If it is on purpose: - What is the purpose, and which page should contain which documentation? The command pages which start with an underscore are probably leftovers when Taco changed a page from manual command descriptions to auto generated tables. In the process to change the page he makes a copy of the current page with an underscore at the beginning which is deleted after the change but it's possible he forgot to delete a few of them. When you notice no difference between both versions of a command page you can delete all of the forgotten pages. No! These are the general pages in opposite to instance pages, e.g. "startsection" and "startchapter" are instances of "_startsection"? https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_placefloat is the general page for the instances placefigure, placetable etc. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - question about Command/ pages which start with a space character
garu...@azules.eu schrieb am 14.04.2024 um 12:41: Hi all, Is it on purpose that 128 pages "https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/ " start with a space character ? I didn't find an explanation in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command For example, these two pages exist : - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_startbuffer If it is on purpose: - What is the purpose, and which page should contain which documentation? The command pages which start with an underscore are probably leftovers when Taco changed a page from manual command descriptions to auto generated tables. In the process to change the page he makes a copy of the current page with an underscore at the beginning which is deleted after the change but it's possible he forgot to delete a few of them. When you notice no difference between both versions of a command page you can delete all of the forgotten pages. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
Hi all, I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : - https://www.diataxis.fr/ - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 2017 As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation by clarifying the purpose of each element. So I started a potential new "welcome page" : https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 The main lines would be : - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal with "how-to" cases, e.g. : - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to reallocate existing contents. Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. Garulfo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Back in the 90s
On 4/13/2024 2:12 PM, Riviera Taylor wrote: Hello, I was reading about the history of ConTeXt in the Not So Short Introduction To ConTeXt and I have a historical question. I noticed that the PDF specification was published in 1993 yet ConTeXt was invented in 1991. The book suggests that PDF output was handled by the PdfTeX engine in MKII in 2005. What sort of output did the software produce before PdfTeX was introduced? Was this the same as the output produced by the software before the publication of the PDF specification? 2005 is when we started with luatex which is a follow up on pdftex, and pdftex is more a mid 90's thing; we immediately adopted pdftex (which made some believe that context depended on pdftex which is not true) anyway, we started with dvi which needs a postprocessor to go to some printer format like specific hp or more general postscript but also can drive viewers we went from epson dot matrix printer -> early 300 dpi laser -> 600 dpi laser printer -> high speed oce 512 dpi printer (metric) -> high speed oce 600 dpi printer (+ crappy canon color laser printer) -> fast page-wide hp color inkjet office printer in mkii all is controlled by backend drivers, that use so called specials to support color, hyperlinks, images so a workflow can have - dvipsone : high quality postscript - dviwindo : viewer with typeone support and hyperlinks - acrobat : postscript to pdf and as all these external backends have their demands we could handle all these things in an abstract way (that way one could also drive printer properties like duplex or paper bins etc from a tex job) that meant that when pdf came around we could almost immediately support most of the interactive features in a dvi -> ps -> acrobat workflow when pdftex came around the intermediate step of postscript could be avoided which btw was also possible with dvipdfm(x) so we also supported that so to summarize, it went from tex -> dvi -> printer format tex -> dvi -> postscript -> more generic printer format tex -> dvi -> pdf -> print from acrobat tex -> pdf -> print from pdf viewer in the meantime we are pdf (as from that one can produce other formats) Hans (btw, the fact that we could easily support pdf was also a reason why at that time some adobe folk in nl used documents produced by context to show somewhat extrems usage of interactive features, thanks to the fact that tex can adapt to such new situations, also via the dvi route in this case with pdfmarks; at that time pdf usage - and features - was a bit more dualistic: ps replacement format versus storage and preview format, but that's a different story; but it still shows in how the standard evolved) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua
On 4/11/24 18:56, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > [...] > it searches for mtxrun.lua and context.lua in the same path so you need: > > luametatex.exe > mtxrun.exe (can be link to luametatex.exe) > context.exe (can be link to luametatex.exe) > context.lua > mtxrun.lua > > all in the same (bib) path > > ... always has been so ... But now it seems that luatex has disappeared from our bin directories. Was this intended (because of the issues with the build farm)? Many thanks for your help, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua
On 4/11/2024 5:25 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: On 4/10/24 22:28, Denis Maier wrote: [...] context --luatex --generate Thanks, Pablo. I've tried it, but it doesn't seem to work... I get the same result on Win64 when I move the luatex binary from the tex/texmf-win64/bin/ directory. This may sound stupid, but could you check whether the bin directory contain the required binary? Sorry, "luatex --version" and even "whereis luatex" should give the same result (but on Windows, it seems to be https://ss64.com/nt/where.html). I hope it may help, it searches for mtxrun.lua and contextl.lua in the same path so you need: luametatex.exe mtxrun.exe (can be link to luametatex.exe) context.exe (can be link to luametatex.exe) context.lua mtxrun.lua all in the same (bib) path ... always has been so ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua
On 4/11/24 17:39, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: > [...] > Ok. It wasn't there. I have now copied it from my Miktex installation, but > it still does not work. (Looks like some path issue. The luatex binary from > the miktex installation seems to take priority over the one now in the > ConTeXt installation. Looks like I'm getting somewhere...) I wonder whether the path order might give priority. But in any case, I wonder whether it is intended that current latest (from the ConTeXt distribution) is intended neither to have the latest LuaTeX nor to have any LuaTeX binary at all. Hans (or Luigi), are we (just humble users) missing something here? Many thanks for your help, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. April 2024 17:26 > An: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users' > Cc: Pablo Rodriguez > Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx- > context.lua > > On 4/10/24 22:28, Denis Maier wrote: > >> [...] > >> context --luatex --generate > > > > Thanks, Pablo. > > I've tried it, but it doesn't seem to work... > > I get the same result on Win64 when I move the luatex binary from the > tex/texmf-win64/bin/ directory. > > This may sound stupid, but could you check whether the bin directory contain > the required binary? > > Sorry, "luatex --version" and even "whereis luatex" should give the same result > (but on Windows, it seems to be https://ss64.com/nt/where.html). > > I hope it may help, > > Pablo Ok. It wasn't there. I have now copied it from my Miktex installation, but it still does not work. (Looks like some path issue. The luatex binary from the miktex installation seems to take priority over the one now in the ConTeXt installation. Looks like I'm getting somewhere...) Thanks for your help, Denis ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua
On 4/10/24 22:28, Denis Maier wrote: >> [...] >> context --luatex --generate > > Thanks, Pablo. > I've tried it, but it doesn't seem to work... I get the same result on Win64 when I move the luatex binary from the tex/texmf-win64/bin/ directory. This may sound stupid, but could you check whether the bin directory contain the required binary? Sorry, "luatex --version" and even "whereis luatex" should give the same result (but on Windows, it seems to be https://ss64.com/nt/where.html). I hope it may help, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua
On 4/10/24 13:59, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: > Hi, > I wanted to test my earlier example (float placement) also with MKIV, but > context ---luatex … > give me this error message : > unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua > How can I make it work? Hi Denis, as far as I know, this is required first: context --luatex --generate BTW, although LuaTeX 1.18 has been released, my Linux64 ConTeXt contains version 1.17.x. In fact, the LuaTeX binary was removed in an update some weeks (or months) ago. I had to copy it from a backup from a previous version. I hope it helps, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fwd: [lug-leaders] BachoTeX 2024: Last minute
Hi all, Please see the forwarded message from GUST below. Best wishes, Taco > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Jerzy Ludwichowski > Subject: [lug-leaders] BachoTeX 2024: Last minute > Date: 9 April 2024 at 14:09:09 CEST > To: tex...@tug.org, LUG boards > Reply-To: lug-boa...@ifi.uio.no > > Dear TeXies, > > we've extended the deadline for "early-bird" BachoTeX 2024 registrations > until 11th of April. > All the current details of the conference are available from the revamped(!) > page: > > https://bachotex.gust.org.pl > > Don't hesitate, come and share the joys of TeXing together: "Ideas are born > between heads" > > --Jerzy Ludwichowski > (for the Organizing Committee) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: international type design
It is an interesting team. 2024年4月5日 02:52, "Henning Hraban Ramm" 写到: > Have a look at these beautiful font designs: > > https://esadtype.esad-amiens.fr/ > > Unfortunately the fonts are not available (yet). > > Take your time to browse the papers about intention, design process etc. > > I just browsed the dissertation about the (Vietnamese) "Dilinh" font and > > found the considerations interesting. > > "Gul" has matching Devanagari & Latin, "Tarisel" has variations from > > readable text to abstracted lombardic unciale, and "Wierd" has matching > > deconstructivist outlines for Arabic & Latin… > > Hraban > > ___ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Very bizarre bug
On 4/7/2024 10:14 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On 4/7/24 19:44, Hans Hagen wrote:
ok, so this "on" ... where does it come from .. you can try to run
with \tracingall and then quit the run after the first and search the
log for !on to get a clue
Hans
Found it - and I'm embarrassed to say it was in my own environment file,
not in the lmtx distribution. I have a Lua function that prints
information about the computer model and the operating system into a
layer. Unfortunately, there was an "elseif" in there somewhere which
should catch exceptions (such as a raspberry pi), but instead of
concatenating the relevant return values to display in the layer, I had
a ' context (" on ")' in there (probably for debugging) which I forgot
about.
Sorry for the noise - I was getting too sophisticated for my own good...
No problem, is it a rpi 5? If so, how does that one perform?
Hans
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[NTG-context] Re: Very bizarre bug
On 4/7/24 19:44, Hans Hagen wrote:
ok, so this "on" ... where does it come from .. you can try to run with
\tracingall and then quit the run after the first and search the log for
!on to get a clue
Hans
Found it - and I'm embarrassed to say it was in my own environment file,
not in the lmtx distribution. I have a Lua function that prints
information about the computer model and the operating system into a
layer. Unfortunately, there was an "elseif" in there somewhere which
should catch exceptions (such as a raspberry pi), but instead of
concatenating the relevant return values to display in the layer, I had
a ' context (" on ")' in there (probably for debugging) which I forgot
about.
Sorry for the noise - I was getting too sophisticated for my own good...
Thomas
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[NTG-context] Re: Very bizarre bug
On 4/7/2024 7:37 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On 4/7/24 19:21, Hans Hagen wrote: can you make a format with line 25 of context.mkxl uncommented to see if you get a message (not production, just a test) Hans That should give a message "some spurious input in line..." in the output or the log, right? No, did not see such a message. ok, so this "on" ... where does it come from .. you can try to run with \tracingall and then quit the run after the first and search the log for !on to get a clue Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fwd: Re: how to apply gradient color to a piece of text?
Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Re: how to apply gradient color to a piece of text? Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 19:05:13 +0200 From: Hans Hagen To: Keith McKay On 4/7/2024 6:56 PM, Keith McKay wrote: Not for me either. I used it somewhere so I'll need to look back in my files. \startMPpage picture tt ; tt := lmt_outline [ kind = "fillup", text = "\definedfont[name:texgyrepagellabold*default]foo f o o", ] xsized 12cm ; path bb ; bb := boundingbox tt ; path pp ; pp := bb enlarged 2cm ; fill pp withshademethod "linear" withshadedirection down withshadecolors (red, blue) ; draw tt withcolor green ; \stopMPpage no need to loop over tt - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: PDF/UA-2, WTPDF
On 4/7/2024 9:31 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am 07.04.24 um 08:06 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 4/6/2024 5:34 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
1. PDF/UA-2
https://pdfa.org/iso-14289-2-pdfua-2/
looks likes one has to pay for it
Oh, as usual with PDF association…
That’s not how you promote open standards.
(Didn’t check, jost forwarded the message.)
2. Well-Tagged PDF (WTPDF)
https://pdfa.org/wtpdf/
well, tagging ...
Of course.
But you asked for wanted accessibility features:
sure.
We have \pdfbackendactualtext{visible}{alternative}, can we get
alternative text (ActualText) for images?
Not automatically, of course (if someone wants AI descriptions they can
implement a module), just as a keyword in \externalfigure?
we can add a description option that then can eb used in the wrapper
(not that it helps much to make an image accessible)
btw, someone showed me what this acrobat liquid mode does to a document
... the fact that one has to apply 'ai' to a document is a bad omen and
makes one wonder ... but anyway, big tech, big money, etc so ... (after
visiting a typesetting museum today one again realizes that a few
decades from now one will look back in a certain way, not all is progress)
one thing we need to keep in mind is that as soon as 'obsolete' and 'not
to be used' enters descriptions (which kind of contradicts the
flexibility of sofware) one can also wonder how older documents can ever
match a standard; i often get the impression that instead of some
thinking ahead we end up adapting to what can't be done or what went
wrong (and calling something a standard can then be a way to obscure)
anyway, one way or the other we will cope (and it depends on user demand
which in turn depends on organizational demand)
Hans
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[NTG-context] regular online meet-up
You’re invited to our regular online meet-up, this upcoming Wednesday, April 10th, 19:00 CEST (UTC+2) at https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke (same, but shorter: https://u.mtxrun.eu/ctxmtg) ConTeXt users of all levels are welcome! Do you have a subject that you’d like to talk about? Looking forward to seeing you, Hraban (Same blurb as always:) [Howto] * No special software installation required; most modern browsers should work (WebRTC required). * Open the URL above, accept the privacy statement, * enter your name, * click "join" (or "start" if you’re the first), * click "with microphone", allow your browser to access it, check the audio. * Your microphone is muted if you join. Activate microphone and/or camera with the buttons at the bottom. * Minimize the default presentation with the "screen" button, bottom right. * If you’d like to share your screen or upload a file, you can make yourself the presenter: Click on your user name, change the setting, then you’ll see the "screen sharing" button beside the camera button; also there’s now "manage presentations" behind the "plus" button. Beware there is only one presenter at a time, so don’t kill someone else’s presentation. [Technical hints] * Sound is usually better if you use a headset (less noise for everyone). * Connection problems are mostly due to low bandwidth or high latency on your side, e.g. with mobile connections. * Sometimes leaving and re-entering helps. * If audio/video doesn’t work for you, you can still use the text chat. * Screen sharing needs a lot of bandwidth. * BigBlueButton documentation applies: https://bigbluebutton.org/teachers/tutorials/ [Netiquette] * Please use a name that we recognize from here. Some feel uncomfortable with anonymous lurkers. * Mute your microphone while you’re not talking. * It’s nice to show your face at least when you join. * If there are connection problems, stop camera sharing. * The room is set to “everyone’s a moderator“, I trust you... ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] PDF/UA-2, WTPDF
Quoting a post by Philipp Kiff, https://mastodon.social/@pkiff/11221949350928: In amongst the release of PDF/UA-2 (PDF for Universal Accessibility) and the new Well-Tagged PDF (WTPDF) standard last month, some PDF professionals may have missed two other new resources that may help explain and view them: 1. Questions and Answers about Tagged PDF from PDF association 2. Acrobat Custom File Info Panels by Peter Wyatt Last month saw the release of PDF/UA-2 and the new Well-Tagged PDF (WTPDF) standard - neither of which revokes PDF/UA-1. And none of those are the same as PDF 1.7 vs 2.0. To many, the landscape of PDF specs may now seem littered with confusing acronyms and versions! For some help disentangling it all, the PDF association has a Questions and Answers about Tagged PDF: https://pdfa.org/resource/tagged-pdf-q-a/ In related news, Peter Wyatt released Acrobat Custom File Info Panels. This is a free extension for Acrobat that adds new panels to the XMP metadata shown when you view File > Properties in Acrobat Pro. The new panels allow you to view the additional conformance claims and dated revisions of ISO standards that can now be included in PDFs, but that aren't currently visible in the standard Acrobat panels. https://pdfa.org/discovering-pdf-metadata/ One thing I realized in reading through the new standards and looking at various sample files this week is that I should probably spend some time learning LaTeX! Both LaTeX and LibreOffice are already capable of producing PDF/UA-2 files, and with some tweaking, LaTeX can produce what appear to be really good WTPDF files. Kudos to both those development teams! https://github.com/latex3/tagging-project/discussions/72 Finally, in case you missed earlier posts from last month, here are links to the official sources for the two new PDF standards that these other resources relate to: 1. PDF/UA-2 https://pdfa.org/iso-14289-2-pdfua-2/ 2. Well-Tagged PDF (WTPDF) https://pdfa.org/wtpdf/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] statistical charts module re-published
Hi, since the Akela server at Mendel University is down since a while, I got no response from Tomáš, and it would be a pity to lose this module, I re-published the statistical charts module at https://codeberg.org/fiee/context-statistical-charts I’ll also put it on modules.contextgarden.net This is version 0.31, tagged by me as 2020-09-11 (date of the presentation). I’m sure there’s a newer version somewhere, at least at Ramkumar’s, and I’d like to update the repo to that. Also the sources for the documentation are missing. Authors, please help me save your work! Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] international type design
Have a look at these beautiful font designs: https://esadtype.esad-amiens.fr/ Unfortunately the fonts are not available (yet). Take your time to browse the papers about intention, design process etc. I just browsed the dissertation about the (Vietnamese) "Dilinh" font and found the considerations interesting. "Gul" has matching Devanagari & Latin, "Tarisel" has variations from readable text to abstracted lombardic unciale, and "Wierd" has matching deconstructivist outlines for Arabic & Latin… Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: error with \sc
On 4/3/24 07:16, Peter Münster wrote: > On Tue, Apr 02 2024, Andres Conrado Montoya wrote: > >> You shouldn't run context as root in any case. > > I don’t run context as root. But I need to erase the cache in > /opt/context/tex/texmf-cache as root, because the user doesn’t have the > permission to do that. Sorry, Peter, but I have a suspicion from what you wrote. >> mtxrun --script cache --erase && mtxrun --generate > > Thanks. It did not work after doing it as root, but then I saw, that > there is also a cache in the user home-directory, so I’ve done it as the > user too, and now it works. In principle, cache is only written to tex/texmf-cache. But I guess, when that directory cannot be written by the user, cache is written to $HOME/texmf. This may be why you get two cache directories (instead of only tex/texmf-cache). Cheers, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: error with \sc
You shouldn't run context as root in any case. But glad it worked. El mar, 2 abr 2024 a las 15:34, Peter Münster () escribió: > On Tue, Apr 02 2024, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: > > > mtxrun --script cache --erase && mtxrun --generate > > Thanks. It did not work after doing it as root, but then I saw, that > there is also a cache in the user home-directory, so I’ve done it as the > user too, and now it works. > > -- >Peter > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > > ___ > -- Andrés Conrado Montoya Andi Kú andresconr...@gmail.com http://sesentaycuatro.com http://messier87.com http://chiquitico.org Los fines no justifican los medios, porque la medida verdadera de nuestro carácter está dada por los medios que estamos dispuestos a utilizar, no por los fines que proclamamos. “You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch.’” — Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
On 4/2/2024 7:44 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am 01.04.24 um 18:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 18:29:
Am 01.04.24 um 18:21 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19:
A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to
\start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images.
My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the
source of a presentation from him.
Oh, that’s probably where I saw it, too.
Here is a short example which two other solution to get a similar
effect as \starttextdisplay.
\usemodule[visual]
\setupfloat[figure][location=left]
\starttext
\fakewords{10}{20}
\startlinecorrection
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoplinecorrection
\fakewords{10}{20}
\blank[2*line]
\fakewords{10}{20}
\startplacefigure[location={force,none}]
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stopplacefigure
\fakewords{10}{20}
\blank[2*line]
\fakewords{10}{20}
\starttextdisplay
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoptextdisplay
\fakewords{10}{20}
\stoptext
Thank you!
And when would you suggest what?
A float I’d use only if I need caption/numbering or the floating feature.
When I tried line correction, it never helped; probably I used it wrong
(e.g. around section titles).
linecorrection is older, textdisplay newer and both are mainly meant to
position boxed content (like images) in a way so that spacing looks
acceptable ... they are vboxes with spacing around them so not meant for
e.g. section heads or whatever text; it's for images, framed stuff,
maybe bTABLE etc
Hans
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[NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
Am 01.04.24 um 18:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 18:29:
Am 01.04.24 um 18:21 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19:
A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to
\start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images.
My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the
source of a presentation from him.
Oh, that’s probably where I saw it, too.
Here is a short example which two other solution to get a similar effect
as \starttextdisplay.
\usemodule[visual]
\setupfloat[figure][location=left]
\starttext
\fakewords{10}{20}
\startlinecorrection
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoplinecorrection
\fakewords{10}{20}
\blank[2*line]
\fakewords{10}{20}
\startplacefigure[location={force,none}]
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stopplacefigure
\fakewords{10}{20}
\blank[2*line]
\fakewords{10}{20}
\starttextdisplay
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoptextdisplay
\fakewords{10}{20}
\stoptext
Thank you!
And when would you suggest what?
A float I’d use only if I need caption/numbering or the floating feature.
When I tried line correction, it never helped; probably I used it wrong
(e.g. around section titles).
I wanted to document it, but can’t find it in the sources:
The definition is in spac-ver.mkxl.
Thank you!
So, "context --find" does not what I thought it would.
AFAIR the find option searches only the manual sources.
Looks like it. So I should use grep (mtxrun --script grep).
Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 18:29:
Am 01.04.24 um 18:21 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19:
A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to
\start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images.
My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the
source of a presentation from him.
Oh, that’s probably where I saw it, too.
Here is a short example which two other solution to get a similar effect
as \starttextdisplay.
\usemodule[visual]
\setupfloat[figure][location=left]
\starttext
\fakewords{10}{20}
\startlinecorrection
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoplinecorrection
\fakewords{10}{20}
\blank[2*line]
\fakewords{10}{20}
\startplacefigure[location={force,none}]
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stopplacefigure
\fakewords{10}{20}
\blank[2*line]
\fakewords{10}{20}
\starttextdisplay
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoptextdisplay
\fakewords{10}{20}
\stoptext
I wanted to document it, but can’t find it in the sources:
The definition is in spac-ver.mkxl.
Thank you!
So, "context --find" does not what I thought it would.
AFAIR the find option searches only the manual sources.
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
Am 01.04.24 um 18:21 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19: A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to \start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images. My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the source of a presentation from him. Oh, that’s probably where I saw it, too. I wanted to document it, but can’t find it in the sources: The definition is in spac-ver.mkxl. Thank you! So, "context --find" does not what I thought it would. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19: A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to \start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images. My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the source of a presentation from him. I wanted to document it, but can’t find it in the sources: The definition is in spac-ver.mkxl. $ context --find=textdisplay [...] These two documents use it and compile flawlessly. begin \definetextdisplay 1 2 3 \definetextdisplay [...] [...] [..,..=..,..] OPT OPT 1 NAME 2 NAME 3 inherits: \setuptextdisplay end \definetextdisplay begin \setuptextdisplay 1 2 \setuptextdisplay [...,...] [..,..=..,..] OPT 1 NAME 2 before = COMMAND after = COMMAND factor = NUMBER end \setuptextdisplay begin \starttextdisplay * \starttextdisplay [..,..=..,..] ... \stoptextdisplay OPT * inherits: \setuptextdisplay end \starttextdisplay Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] context editor support / syntax highlighting for Pulsar
Hi Hans (et al.),
find attached a slightly extended version of the "interface" script that
can also generate the list of commands in cson format for Pulsar/Atom.
It just creates a basic list of commands for syntax highlighting; for a
complete plugin, "grammars" and "settings" are missing, see
https://codeberg.org/fiee/language-context
(Yes, this approach is oldfashioned and a plugin could do a lot more,
but I don’t speak TypeScript.)
The generated cson file is for "snippets", like in:
https://codeberg.org/fiee/language-context/src/branch/master/snippets/language-context.cson
There, I added information from the interface files and also from the
wiki, if existing. I don’t know how to do that in the lua script.
---
function flushers.pulsar(collected)
for interface, whatever in next, collected do
local commands = whatever.commands
local environments = whatever.environments
local result, r = { }, 0
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = "'.text.tex.context':\n"
for i=1,#commands do
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = format("\t'\\%s':\n",commands[i])
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = format("\t\tprefix:
'%s'\n",commands[i])
-- can we have some information?
--r = r + 1 ; result[r] = format("\t\tdescription: 'level:
primitive; interface: i-tex.xml'",'')
-- no URL if command starts with "stop"
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = format("\t\tdescriptionMoreURL:
'https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/%s'\n",commands[i])
end
io.savedata(format("language-context-%s.cson",interface),
concat(result),"\n")
end
end
---
Also, the "en" interface is empty, everything is in "common", so the
iteration over interfaces makes no sense here.
Actually, Atom/Pulsar could work with a tree sitter parser
(https://github.com/pmazaitis/tree-sitter-context), but I don’t know how
to use it.
[TextMate]
For TextMate and other editors that use TM bundles, it might make sense
to update https://github.com/pgundlach/context.tmbundle
At least the list of commands could be automatically converted from the
interface files, but it’s more involved than what mtx-interface does.
[Visual Studio Code / VSCodium]
BTW, is the ConTeXt language server for VS Code public anywhere?
(Ramkumar KB promised…) Or is "mtxrun --script=vscode --lsfile" the same?
Hrabanif not modules then modules = { } end modules ['mtx-cache'] = {
version = 1.001,
comment = "companion to mtxrun.lua",
author= "Hans Hagen, PRAGMA-ADE, Hasselt NL",
copyright = "PRAGMA ADE / ConTeXt Development Team",
license = "see context related readme files"
}
local concat, sort, insert = table.concat, table.sort, table.insert
local gsub, format, gmatch, find, upper = string.gsub, string.format,
string.gmatch, string.find, string.upper
local utfchar, utfgsub = utf.char, utf.gsub
local sortedkeys, sortedhash, serialize = table.sortedkeys, table.sortedhash,
table.serialize
local helpinfo = [[
mtx-interface
ConTeXt Interface Related Goodies
0.14
generate context mkii interface
files
equals
generate scite interface
generate bbedit interface files
generate jedit interface files
generate pulsar/atom interface
files
generate textpad interface files
generate vim interface files
create text files for commands and
environments
report commands to the console
generate check file
report the meaning of commands
show the internal representation of
commands
replace named characters by utf
preprocess mkvi files to tex files
[force,suffix]
use given suffix for output files
force action even when in doubt
a pattern for meaning lookups
]]
local application = logs.application {
name = "mtx-interface",
banner = "ConTeXt Interface Related Goodies 0.13",
helpinfo = helpinfo,
}
local report = application.report
scripts = scripts or { }
scripts.interface = scripts.interface or { }
local flushers = { }
local userinterfaces= { 'en','cs','de','it','nl','ro','fr','pe' }
local messageinterfaces = { 'en','cs','de','it','nl','ro','fr','pe','no' }
local function collect(filename,class,data)
if data then
local result, r = { }, 0
for name, list in sortedhash(data) do
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = format("keywordclass.%s.%s=\\\n",class,name)
for i=1,#list do
if i%5 == 0 then
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = "\\\n"
end
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = format("%s ",list[i])
end
r = r + 1 ; result[r] = "\n\n"
[NTG-context] Re: upload
On 4/1/2024 11:34 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:
Hi Hans and Mikael,
Thanks for the new module math-goodriddance !
Indeed there are many mathematicians who are going to use the
\goodriddancemath command, and no doubt they are going to thank you,
even if they are very shy to come out.
Moreover this command can be used by people who want to transform the
output PDF into an audio file, because for instance the following
\usemodule[math-goodriddance]
\goodriddancemath
\starttext
\startformula
\int_{0}^{\pi} \sin(x)\dd x = 2.
\stopformula
\stoptext
gives
integral from 0 to 휋 , of sin of 푥 d 푥 equals 2
you cna be more ambituous:
\im { C \of (\openinterval{a,b}) \neq C^^2 \of (\interval{a,b}) \neq
C^^2 \of \interval{0,1} \neq C\of(\Omega) \neq 풞 \of (\Omega)}
or
\dm {u\of(b)-u\of(a)=\lim_{n\to+\infty} \parenthesis{f(x__1)\Delta
x__1+f(x__2)\Delta x__2+\ldots+f(x__n)\Delta x__n}}
so we can really get rid of a lot of math
as one can see in the attached output which is very useful for the blind
using an audio software.
yes, although unfortunately unicode never bothered to add some handy
stuff for that (while if did for other comparable things) but we'can get
around that
I now assume that you are willing to come up with the french
translations (that then can be validated by Alan). Do we actually have
serious german context math users, as I wouldn't trust Hraban and Thomas
on doing this?
Hans
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[NTG-context] Re: upload
Hi Hans and Mikael,Thanks for the new module math-goodriddance ! Indeed there are many mathematicians who are going to use the \goodriddancemath command, and no doubt they are going to thank you, even if they are very shy to come out.Moreover this command can be used by people who want to transform the output PDF into an audio file, because for instance the following \usemodule[math-goodriddance]\goodriddancemath\starttext\startformula\int_{0}^{\pi} \sin(x)\dd x = 2.\stopformula\stoptextgives
integral from 0 to 휋 , of sin of 푥 d 푥 equals 2
as one can see in the attached output which is very useful for the blind using an audio software.Best regards: OK
no-math.pdf
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On 1 Apr 2024, at 16:31, Hans Hagen <j.ha...@xs4all.nl> wrote:Hi,There is a new lmtx upload.-- The svg inclusion via metapost has been upgraded and cleanup a bit, using some more recent metapost features. There are some new (not yet all documented metapost) features.-- In the process, support for LCH colors has been added, which is documented in the (eg luametafun manual).-- The math manual is not yet there because we were distracted by improving support for envelopes (penbased outlines) in metafun. This is still work in progress, some is present and discussed in the manual, and we'll come back to that sometime next month. Given the next item, we also might need to change some in the manual (different focus).-- Because we have users who have to conform to the European Accessibility Act we have been wondering how to deal with that and at Mikaels place there are two demands: distinctive colors and tagging and especially math (somehow validators love to check that). Colors never were an issue as they can be controlled, and tagging math neither, especially because nothing was/is done with it anyway, but ... we are happy that we found a reasonable (more modern and future proof) way out.As explained / shown in the attached document we're basically forced to choose a different approach with math (a pity as we worked hard to get the rendering right but the attached file works fine in the viewers that we tested).-- We like to hear from users what other demands wrt accessibility there are. We're not interested in the (commercial) big money aspects (of pdf and tagging) nor in the politics behind it (changes over time). What are the demands, so that we can see how to make it work or just work around it (as it's kind of boring to cook uyp complex features , esp compared to playing with metapost).-- Furthermore .. the usual bits and pieces as discussed on the list and otherwise.-- If you have troubles (crash) you need to wipe the cache due to a change in lua bytecode storage (no easy way to catch it).Hans & Mikael- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl-___If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nlwebpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror)archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/contextwiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net___
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[NTG-context] Re: upload
Hi, On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:36 AM Hans Hagen wrote: > > Hi, > > There is a new lmtx upload. > > -- The svg inclusion via metapost has been upgraded and cleanup a bit, > using some more recent metapost features. There are some new (not yet > all documented metapost) features. > > -- In the process, support for LCH colors has been added, which is > documented in the (eg luametafun manual). > > -- The math manual is not yet there because we were distracted by > improving support for envelopes (penbased outlines) in metafun. This is > still work in progress, some is present and discussed in the manual, and > we'll come back to that sometime next month. Given the next item, we > also might need to change some in the manual (different focus). > > -- Because we have users who have to conform to the European > Accessibility Act we have been wondering how to deal with that and at > Mikaels place there are two demands: distinctive colors and tagging and > especially math (somehow validators love to check that). Colors never > were an issue as they can be controlled, and tagging math neither, > especially because nothing was/is done with it anyway, but ... we are > happy that we found a reasonable (more modern and future proof) way out. > > As explained / shown in the attached document we're basically forced to > choose a different approach with math (a pity as we worked hard to get > the rendering right but the attached file works fine in the viewers that > we tested). > > -- We like to hear from users what other demands wrt accessibility there > are. We're not interested in the (commercial) big money aspects (of pdf > and tagging) nor in the politics behind it (changes over time). What are > the demands, so that we can see how to make it work or just work around > it (as it's kind of boring to cook uyp complex features , esp compared > to playing with metapost). > > -- Furthermore .. the usual bits and pieces as discussed on the list and > otherwise. > > -- If you have troubles (crash) you need to wipe the cache due to a > change in lua bytecode storage (no easy way to catch it). > > Hans & Mikael In addition to what Hans wrote, I need to write and apologize. About two years ago I was working on a big math project and needed SyncTeX (code <-> okular) to work with it to get a smooth workflow. After fighting it for several weeks, mailing Hans back and forth, without any real support from Hans since "he was not using SyncTeX", I sent a false patch to him that I claimed worked. It must have gotten in without even being tested(!). Since then SyncTeX support for ConTeXt has been broken. Strengthened about how easy it was to add code to this project, and still frustrated about the project (that is still not finished), I started "collaborating" with Hans, mainly on math. During these years, I have been baffled about how easy it has been to add malicious code, he just swallows everything. I only needed to find out what Hans really uses himself (a few tables, he likes colors, and he has a weak point when it comes to "nice" metapost images), and then to add patches for other stuff. For math, in particular, he seems to have no understanding (sorry Hans). I am worried about the Dutch school system. Nevertheless, I have, during this time, more and more enjoyed our discussions, and so I started to feel bad about my "patches", and sorry for Hans. Thus, I have lately reverted, part by part, the bad code. Only a few of them are left (but don't tell Hans!). I also got a feeling that Wolfgang, checking all the code, since long did see this through. Thus, in the latest upload, for example, you might get SyncTeX working again, but you might need to add \setupsynctex[state=repeat]. No guarantees. Again, my sincere apologies to all ConTeXters out there who have not gotten the result they expect and deserve. I assume that Hans will kick me out when the last patch is sent, so I will delay it as much as possible... /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
