Re: [NTG-context] orphans and widows in poems
On 6/17/2013 1:39 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Verse page. You don’t need any tricks to prevent page breaks in a lines environment because \setuplines[option=packed] already does it. Wolfgang You still need to make each stanza an individual lines environment, don't you? -- Bill Meahan Westland Michigan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] orphans and widows in poems
On 16/06/13 21:03, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 16.06.2013 um 09:46 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de: [...] Is there no way to avoid orphans and widows in the lines environment? 1. Don’t use * in your setups names because names starting with an asterisk are system modes. 2. To load the defaults settings you have to use \setups[*reset] which needs the asterisks because it’s a system mode. 3.The settings doesn’t help because in the lines environment each line is a separate paragraph which makes \widowpenalty useless here. Thanks for your reply, Wolfgang. So, according to 3, there is no way to prevent widow or orphan lines in a line environment, isn't it? Many thanks for your help again, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] orphans and widows in poems
On 17/06/13 07:39, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 17.06.2013 um 02:36 schrieb Bill Meahan subscribed_li...@meahan.net: On 6/16/2013 3:46 AM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: [...] Is there no way to avoid orphans and widows in the lines environment? It's a bit ugly, but if the poem consists of individual stanzas, you can put each stanza in an non-bordered frame. [...] A frame will never be split across pages. BTW this trickis on the wiki on the Verse page. You don’t need any tricks to prevent page breaks in a lines environment because \setuplines[option=packed] already does it. Many thanks for your replies, Bill, Aditya and Wolfgang. I don't want to prevent page breaks in lines environment, I only want to prevent orphan and widow lines in this environment too (which seems to be impossible, if I didn't get it wrong). Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] orphans and widows in poems
On 16/06/13 21:03, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 16.06.2013 um 09:46 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de: [...] Is there no way to avoid orphans and widows in the lines environment? [...] 3. The settings doesn’t help because in the lines environment each line is a separate paragraph which makes \widowpenalty useless here. Wolfgang, it just came to my mind that a workaround to avoid orphans and widows would be not to use the lines environment and add new lines, such as in: First verse\\ second verse\\ third verse\\ fourth verse. It seems to work in my example. Does it have another unwanted consequences? Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] orphans and widows in poems
Am 17.06.2013 um 15:50 schrieb Bill Meahan subscribed_li...@meahan.net:
On 6/17/2013 1:39 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Verse page.
You don’t need any tricks to prevent page breaks in a lines environment
because
\setuplines[option=packed] already does it.
Wolfgang
You still need to make each stanza an individual lines environment, don't you?
You can change the definition of the inbetween key (default: \blank)
which is used when you add a blank line in the environment. With the
preference keyword for \blank you can allow a page break.
\setuplayout[lines=8]
\starttext \showframe
\startlines[option=packed,inbetween={\blank[preference,line]}]
Line 1
Line 2
Line 3
Line 4
Line 5
Line 6
Line 7
Line 8
\stoplines
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] orphans and widows in poems
Am 17.06.2013 um 19:18 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de:
On 16/06/13 21:03, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 16.06.2013 um 09:46 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de:
[...]
Is there no way to avoid orphans and widows in the lines
environment?
1. Don’t use * in your setups names because names starting with an
asterisk are system modes.
2. To load the defaults settings you have to use \setups[*reset]
which needs the asterisks because it’s a system mode.
3.The settings doesn’t help because in the lines environment each
line is a separate paragraph which makes \widowpenalty useless here.
Thanks for your reply, Wolfgang.
So, according to 3, there is no way to prevent widow or orphan lines in
a line environment, isn't it?
Not with the current implementation of the environment because it doesn’t
know how many lines are there. With a Lua based solution it would be simple
to add a mechanism to prevent a page break at a certain region because
the needed information are available.
\startluacode
userdata = userdata or { }
userdata.linescontent = userdata.linescontent or { }
local linescontent = userdata.linescontent
function linescontent.process()
local lines = string.splitlines(buffers.getcontent(linescontent))
context.begingroup()
for i=1,#lines do
local l = lines[i]
context(%s,l)
context.par()
end
context.endgroup()
end
\stopluacode
\def\startlinescontent
{\grabbufferdata[linescontent][startlinescontent][stoplinescontent]}
\def\stoplinescontent
{\ctxlua{userdata.linescontent.process()}}
\starttext
\startlinescontent
One
Two
Three
Four
Five
Six
\stoplinescontent
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] orphans and widows in poems
On 6/17/2013 11:05 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 17.06.2013 um 19:18 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de:
On 16/06/13 21:03, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 16.06.2013 um 09:46 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de:
[...]
Is there no way to avoid orphans and widows in the lines
environment?
1. Don’t use * in your setups names because names starting with an
asterisk are system modes.
2. To load the defaults settings you have to use \setups[*reset]
which needs the asterisks because it’s a system mode.
3.The settings doesn’t help because in the lines environment each
line is a separate paragraph which makes \widowpenalty useless here.
Thanks for your reply, Wolfgang.
So, according to 3, there is no way to prevent widow or orphan lines in
a line environment, isn't it?
Not with the current implementation of the environment because it doesn’t
know how many lines are there. With a Lua based solution it would be simple
to add a mechanism to prevent a page break at a certain region because
the needed information are available.
yes, some of that is on the agenda (not to hard but as usual it take a
bit of thinking / experimenting to get an interface)
basically it's a variant of \setpenalties (the plural \widowpenalties etc)
\startluacode
userdata = userdata or { }
userdata.linescontent = userdata.linescontent or { }
local linescontent = userdata.linescontent
function linescontent.process()
local lines = string.splitlines(buffers.getcontent(linescontent))
context.begingroup()
for i=1,#lines do
local l = lines[i]
context(%s,l)
context.par()
end
context.endgroup()
end
\stopluacode
\def\startlinescontent
{\grabbufferdata[linescontent][startlinescontent][stoplinescontent]}
\def\stoplinescontent
{\ctxlua{userdata.linescontent.process()}}
\starttext
\startlinescontent
One
Two
Three
Four
Five
Six
\stoplinescontent
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] orphans and widows in poems
Dear list, I have a document that contains a long poem and although it contains the following code: \setuplayout[setups=*lessstrict] \startsetups[*lessstrict] \setup[reset] \widowpenalty=1 \clubpenalty=1 \brokenpenalty=1 \stopsetups I'm afraid that I get widow lines in the lines environment. Is there no way to avoid orphans and widows in the lines environment? Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] orphans and widows in poems
Am 16.06.2013 um 09:46 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de: Dear list, I have a document that contains a long poem and although it contains the following code: \setuplayout[setups=*lessstrict] \startsetups[*lessstrict] \setup[reset] \widowpenalty=1 \clubpenalty=1 \brokenpenalty=1 \stopsetups I'm afraid that I get widow lines in the lines environment. Is there no way to avoid orphans and widows in the lines environment? 1. Don’t use * in your setups names because names starting with an asterisk are system modes. 2. To load the defaults settings you have to use \setups[*reset] which needs the asterisks because it’s a system mode. 3. The settings doesn’t help because in the lines environment each line is a separate paragraph which makes \widowpenalty useless here. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] orphans and widows in poems
On 6/16/2013 3:46 AM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
I'm afraid that I get widow lines in the lines environment.
Is there no way to avoid orphans and widows in the lines environment?
It's a bit ugly, but if the poem consists of individual stanzas, you can
put each stanza in an non-bordered frame.
e.g.:
% Set up the lines environment to put the contained lines in a frame so
they are kept together
\setuplines[indenting={yes,small,even}, -- whatever options you want
before={\startframedtext[frame=off]},
after=\stopframedtext]
% Then wrap your stanzas in individual line environments
\startlines
A maiden fair was seated there,
Her hair of fine-spun gold.
Azure eyes so clear and bright,
So wondrous to behold.
\stoplines
A frame will never be split across pages.
BTW this trickis on the wiki on the Verse page.
--
Bill Meahan
Westland Michigan
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Re: [NTG-context] orphans and widows in poems
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013, Bill Meahan wrote:
On 6/16/2013 3:46 AM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
I'm afraid that I get widow lines in the lines environment.
Is there no way to avoid orphans and widows in the lines environment?
It's a bit ugly, but if the poem consists of individual stanzas, you can put
each stanza in an non-bordered frame.
e.g.:
% Set up the lines environment to put the contained lines in a frame so they
are kept together
\setuplines[indenting={yes,small,even}, -- whatever options you want
before={\startframedtext[frame=off]},
after=\stopframedtext]
% Then wrap your stanzas in individual line environments
\startlines
A maiden fair was seated there,
Her hair of fine-spun gold.
Azure eyes so clear and bright,
So wondrous to behold.
\stoplines
A frame will never be split across pages.
BTW this trickis on the wiki on the Verse page.
If the poem consists of stanzas with fixed number of lines, say 4, then
you could also try:
\setuplines[inbetween={\testpage[4]\blank}]
This will ensure that a stanza does not break across pages.
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Re: [NTG-context] orphans and widows in poems
Am 17.06.2013 um 02:36 schrieb Bill Meahan subscribed_li...@meahan.net:
On 6/16/2013 3:46 AM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
I'm afraid that I get widow lines in the lines environment.
Is there no way to avoid orphans and widows in the lines environment?
It's a bit ugly, but if the poem consists of individual stanzas, you can put
each stanza in an non-bordered frame.
e.g.:
% Set up the lines environment to put the contained lines in a frame so they
are kept together
\setuplines[indenting={yes,small,even}, -- whatever options you want
before={\startframedtext[frame=off]},
after=\stopframedtext]
% Then wrap your stanzas in individual line environments
\startlines
A maiden fair was seated there,
Her hair of fine-spun gold.
Azure eyes so clear and bright,
So wondrous to behold.
\stoplines
A frame will never be split across pages.
BTW this trickis on the wiki on the Verse page.
You don’t need any tricks to prevent page breaks in a lines environment because
\setuplines[option=packed] already does it.
Wolfgang
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