[NTG-context] issue with remote \attachment

2020-06-15 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
Hi Hans,

one of my documents uses \attachment to embed PDF documents (well, it
contains many).

I have been doing this for more than a year, but right now it is way
slower: over 250s vs. 7s compilation time (with and without the attachment).

It takes me 6s to download the document directly with curl using the
same address.

I’m afraid this might be also related to the server where the file is
downloaded from.

The document seems to be downloaded in each run.

I wonder whether this could be improved with these proposals:

1. Only download the document on the first run of each compilation.

2. Before that, check last modified information (from "curl -I") and
avoid downloading if the already downloaded file is newer that the
remote version.

3. It would be better if downloaded files could have the remote time
("curl -R"), instead download time. CreationDate and ModDate might
differ from upload time.

A sample for that would be
https://etsc.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014_06_smart_factsheet_alco_gate_sweden.pdf.

These are dates from the PDF document:

  CreationDate:   Mon Jul  7 14:57:05 2014 CEST
  ModDate:Mon Jul  7 14:57:07 2014 CEST

And this is what "curl -I" displays about uploading time:

  Last-Modified: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:51:29 GMT

Would it be possible to implement these proposals to improve remote file
embedding?

Many thanks for your help,

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Re: [NTG-context] issues with \attachment when specifying name

2020-02-08 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 2/8/20 1:46 PM, Peter Rolf wrote:
>
> Hi Pablo,
>
> my first thought was: how can you rename something that isn't showing up
> (as text) in the PDF anywhere?
> On a second thought this makes sense, if you want to hide the original
> file name in the PDF code. Shouldn't be to hard to make this work even
> for hidden attachments.

Hi Peter,

I need to do that to rename from something very similar to these ones:

   x:\crap-from-scanner\20200208180001.pdf
   x:\crap-from-scanner\gen-sign-mdf003.pdf

to something more meaningful, such as:

  01-flyer.pdf
  02-booklet.pdf

Or even:

  01-flyer_[SHA512SUM here].pdf
  02-booklet_[SHA512SUM here].pdf

The name key allows to reuse names from somewhere else, and also to
order the files using counters. Both automatically and without having to
mess with the files themselves (https://blog.ousia.tk/0005/ contains an
example).

In that cases, renaming actual files could be both undesirable and a lot
of work.

It is mainly a question of consistency. Also across applications.
Consider the following sample:

\setupinteraction[state=start]
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=1em]
    attachment\attachment[file=xml-mkiv.pdf,
type={application/pdf},
%~ method=hidden,
name=01-manual,
flags=]
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext

In Evince, the annotation has the title xml-mkiv (without the
extension), but it opens a 01-manual.pdf document.

Acroread displays the filename fine, but it displays the title
annotation as xml-mkiv.

In both cases, removing the extension to refer to a filename may
introduce further issues (mupdf-gl displays xml-mkiv as author).

With "method=hidden", SumatraPDF displays the filename as xml-mkiv.pdf.

And other PDF viewers might behave differently.

We may complain that PDF viewers are crappy, but ConTeXt is providing
filename info in three different ways (and viewers are taking legitimate
information).

After all, if the name key is there, it should behave properly. It
should ignore values from the file option when the name option is
specified, and it shouldn’t remove the extension when the attachment has
been renamed (this leads to potential user confusion).

> But it can also be argued that this feature gives the user a false sense
> of security. Any attachment with metadata may contain additional
> information that makes the prior name change useless.
> And in the end the author of the document is responsible for it. In my
> opinion renaming a file before embedding it, is acceptable in this
> security context. But maybe I'm wrong here...

I’m not a fan of exposing directories when I have to attach files to
automatically-generated PDF documents.

But the main issue here is functionality for both the one who generates
the document and the one that receives it.

Many thanks for your help,

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Re: [NTG-context] issues with \attachment when specifying name

2020-02-08 Thread Peter Rolf
Am 08.02.2020 um 09:31 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez:
> Hi Peter,
>
> here you have a minimal sample with file name changed inside the
> attachment command:
>
>\setupinteraction[state=start]
> \starttext
> an attachment\attachment[file=secret-name.pdf,
> type={application/pdf},
> %~ method=hidden,
> name=other-name]
> \stoptext
>
> If method is hidden (no annotation), /EmbeddedFiles doesn’t honor the
> "name" option.
>
> If method is normal (generating an annotation), /T in /FileAttachment
> doesn’t "honor the "name" option.
>
> Would it be possible that both cases contain the value from the name
> "option" instead of file?
>
> Many thanks for checking this,
>
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Hi Pablo,

my first thought was: how can you rename something that isn't showing up
(as text) in the PDF anywhere?
On a second thought this makes sense, if you want to hide the original
file name in the PDF code. Shouldn't be to hard to make this work even
for hidden attachments.

But it can also be argued that this feature gives the user a false sense
of security. Any attachment with metadata may contain additional
information that makes the prior name change useless.
And in the end the author of the document is responsible for it. In my
opinion renaming a file before embedding it, is acceptable in this
security context. But maybe I'm wrong here...


Peter
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[NTG-context] issues with \attachment when specifying name

2020-02-08 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
Hi Peter,

here you have a minimal sample with file name changed inside the
attachment command:

   \setupinteraction[state=start]
\starttext
an attachment\attachment[file=secret-name.pdf,
type={application/pdf},
%~ method=hidden,
name=other-name]
\stoptext

If method is hidden (no annotation), /EmbeddedFiles doesn’t honor the
"name" option.

If method is normal (generating an annotation), /T in /FileAttachment
doesn’t "honor the "name" option.

Would it be possible that both cases contain the value from the name
"option" instead of file?

Many thanks for checking this,

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF/A-3a attachment support query

2019-12-07 Thread Peter Rolf
Am 06.12.2019 um 16:56 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> On 12/6/2019 4:21 PM, Peter Rolf wrote:
>> Hi Rik,
>>
>> I guess it's not supported yet.
>>
>> In "lpdf-fmt.lua" it says:
>> [..]
>>     ["pdf/a-3a"] = { -- untested; NEW: any type of attachment is
>> allowed
>> [..]
>>
>> I remember adding the "a-2a" and "a-3a" versions back when Hans and I
>> added experimental support for "PDF/UA-1" (which is based on "PDF/A-3a",
>> but much more limited). This all lies back a few years, can't remember
>> the details.
>>
>> So we have only basic support for "PDF/A-3a", the more advanced features
>> of that format are not supported yet. The main problem here is the
>> lacking PDF/A documentation (ISO pay wall). I guess there is currently
>> no real reason to use that format at all (?).
> indeed (and to be honest, i never need these options myself)
>
> anyway, i happily wait till you come up with an entry for it
>
> (i have no clue what 'advanced' features mean here, something we need to
> implement or just something that needs a flag)
>

@Hans:
I'll look into it. Give me some days to read the documentation (not that
much anyway) and to play around with it.
All the "new" features are already implemented as building blocks for
the PDF/X variants, so I guess it's mostly just adding some new table
entries ('b|u' variants). Attachments seem to need several extra PDF
entries. Will report back to you and Luigi.


@Luigi: mh, that really looks like a lot of fun
https://docs.verapdf.org/validation/pdfa-parts-2-and-3/

@Pablo, Rik:
We can put you in cc if you volunteer for testing. Just say aye :D



Peter
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF/A-3a attachment support query

2019-12-07 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 12/6/19 6:08 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> [...]
> I already reported this and I think that the most sensible value is to
> relate them to the document.

Rik,

I have just discovered that the line 97 in lpdf-tag.lua contains:

  local embeddedfilelist= pdfarray() -- /AF

But that "embeddedfilelist" is only used in commented lines (168 and 277).

I’m afraid that the /AF array needs to be an entry in the /Catalog
dictionary. Right now, it would be implemented included in the /MarkInfo
dictionary.

Hans, I wonder whether this could be implemented.

Many thanks for yoryr help,

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF/A-3a attachment support query

2019-12-06 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 12/6/19 3:11 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> The following document fails PDF/A-3a validation. It passes without the
> attachment.
> [...]

Hi Rik,

ConTeXt needs better handling of attachments to be PDF/A-3 compatible.

BTW, attachments don’t need to be PDF/A-3 documents, even if they are
PDF documents (afaIk).

Attachments in PDF/A-3 need to be related (as an array) to the document
with the /AF key.

I already reported this and I think that the most sensible value is to
relate them to the document.

That would mean to include the /AF key in the /Catalog dictionary.

I think this would be the easiest way to implement and to use it.

Just in case it helps,

Pablo


PS: there is another issue with annotations (reported with other issues
already solved at
https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/dev-context/2019/003558.html).
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF/A-3a attachment support query

2019-12-06 Thread Hans Hagen

On 12/6/2019 4:21 PM, Peter Rolf wrote:

Hi Rik,

I guess it's not supported yet.

In "lpdf-fmt.lua" it says:
[..]
["pdf/a-3a"] = { -- untested; NEW: any type of attachment is allowed
[..]

I remember adding the "a-2a" and "a-3a" versions back when Hans and I
added experimental support for "PDF/UA-1" (which is based on "PDF/A-3a",
but much more limited). This all lies back a few years, can't remember
the details.

So we have only basic support for "PDF/A-3a", the more advanced features
of that format are not supported yet. The main problem here is the
lacking PDF/A documentation (ISO pay wall). I guess there is currently
no real reason to use that format at all (?).

indeed (and to be honest, i never need these options myself)

anyway, i happily wait till you come up with an entry for it

(i have no clue what 'advanced' features mean here, something we need to 
implement or just something that needs a flag)


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Re: [NTG-context] PDF/A-3a attachment support query

2019-12-06 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 4:26 PM Peter Rolf  wrote:

>
> So we have only basic support for "PDF/A-3a", the more advanced features
> of that format are not supported yet. The main problem here is the
> lacking PDF/A documentation (ISO pay wall).
>

A complete installation of verapdf  has  a very detailed "documentation"
(sort of, it's embedded in the code) based on the ISO standard.

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF/A-3a attachment support query

2019-12-06 Thread Peter Rolf
Hi Rik,

I guess it's not supported yet.

In "lpdf-fmt.lua" it says:
[..]
   ["pdf/a-3a"] = { -- untested; NEW: any type of attachment is allowed
[..]

I remember adding the "a-2a" and "a-3a" versions back when Hans and I
added experimental support for "PDF/UA-1" (which is based on "PDF/A-3a",
but much more limited). This all lies back a few years, can't remember
the details.

So we have only basic support for "PDF/A-3a", the more advanced features
of that format are not supported yet. The main problem here is the
lacking PDF/A documentation (ISO pay wall). I guess there is currently
no real reason to use that format at all (?).


Best wishes,

Peter



Am 06.12.2019 um 03:11 schrieb Rik Kabel:
> Hello list,
>
> The following document fails PDF/A-3a validation. It passes without the
> attachment.
>
> \setuplanguage   [en]
> \setuptagging    [state=start]
> \setupinteraction    [state=start]
> \setupbackend    [format={pdf/a-3a},profile={default_gray.icc},
>   intent={ISO coated v2 300\letterpercent\space
> (ECI)}]
> \setupstructure  [state=start,method=auto]
> \setupcolors [pagecolormodel=auto,start=yes,rgb=no,cmyk=no]
> \setupbodyfont   [Palatino,10pt]
> \starttext
>
>   Attaching a plain text file.
>
> % \attachment    [file=test.tex,
> %         type={text/plain;charset=UTF-8}]
> % The \ConTeXt\ source code for this document is attached here.
>   \attachment    [file=testa.pdf,
>   type={application/pdf}]
>   A successfully validated pdf/a-3a file is attached here.
>
> \stoptext
>
> pdf-online <https://www.pdf-online.com/osa/validate.aspx>reports:
>
> Validating file "test.pdf" for conformance level pdfa-3a
> The key F is required but missing.
> The appearance dictionary doesn't contain an entry.
> File specification 'testa.pdf' not associated with an object.
> The document does not conform to the requested standard.
> The document doesn't conform to the PDF reference (missing required
> entries, wrong value types, etc.).
> The document contains hidden, invisible, non-viewable or
> non-printable annotations.
> The document contains annotations or form fields with ambigous or
> without appropriate appearances.
> The document does not conform to the PDF/A-3a standard.
> Done.
>
> My understanding is that 3-a should support both pdf and non-pdf
> attachments. This fails in a similar manner with both pdf/a-3a-validated
> files and with plain text files. I also tested with verapdf, and it also
> rejected the document with an attachment.
>
> Is this my error, or is it not yet supported?
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[NTG-context] PDF/A-3a attachment support query

2019-12-05 Thread Rik Kabel

Hello list,

The following document fails PDF/A-3a validation. It passes without the 
attachment.


   \setuplanguage   [en]
   \setuptagging    [state=start]
   \setupinteraction    [state=start]
   \setupbackend    [format={pdf/a-3a},profile={default_gray.icc},
  intent={ISO coated v2 300\letterpercent\space
   (ECI)}]
   \setupstructure  [state=start,method=auto]
   \setupcolors [pagecolormodel=auto,start=yes,rgb=no,cmyk=no]
   \setupbodyfont   [Palatino,10pt]
   \starttext

  Attaching a plain text file.

   % \attachment    [file=test.tex,
   % type={text/plain;charset=UTF-8}]
   % The \ConTeXt\ source code for this document is attached here.
  \attachment    [file=testa.pdf,
  type={application/pdf}]
  A successfully validated pdf/a-3a file is attached here.

   \stoptext

pdf-online <https://www.pdf-online.com/osa/validate.aspx>reports:

   Validating file "test.pdf" for conformance level pdfa-3a
   The key F is required but missing.
   The appearance dictionary doesn't contain an entry.
   File specification 'testa.pdf' not associated with an object.
   The document does not conform to the requested standard.
   The document doesn't conform to the PDF reference (missing required
   entries, wrong value types, etc.).
   The document contains hidden, invisible, non-viewable or
   non-printable annotations.
   The document contains annotations or form fields with ambigous or
   without appropriate appearances.
   The document does not conform to the PDF/A-3a standard.
   Done.

My understanding is that 3-a should support both pdf and non-pdf 
attachments. This fails in a similar manner with both pdf/a-3a-validated 
files and with plain text files. I also tested with verapdf, and it also 
rejected the document with an attachment.


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[NTG-context] attachment from URL

2019-03-05 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
Dear list,

I have the following sample:

\setupinteraction[state=start]
\setupinteractionscreen[option=attachment]
\starttext
\attachment

[https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/ES/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:12016E/TXT]
[name=TFUE.pdf]
\stoptext

Is there a way that curl may download it to the specified name?

Many thanks for your help,

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[NTG-context] Attachment marks to be aligned horizontally

2015-01-19 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .

Hello,

marks of attachments in the attached MWE are aligned in the following way:

- after A and C - horizontally,
- after B - vertically.

The only difference is that \blank precedes in the B case.

So - how to force horizontal alignment for attachment marks in the B case,
supposing that \blank before is necessary for any reason?

The code follows:


\setupinteraction[state=start]

%

\starttext
  A
  \attachment[t-Att2.mkiv]
  \attachment[t-Att2.mkiv]

  \startitemize[][]
\item B
  \blank
  \attachment[t-Att2.mkiv]
  \attachment[t-Att2.mkiv]

\item C
  \attachment[t-Att2.mkiv]
  \attachment[t-Att2.mkiv]
  \stopitemize
\stoptext


TIA.

Best regards,

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t-Att2.mkiv
Description: Binary data


t-Att2.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [NTG-context] \attachment

2013-12-02 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11/29/2013 12:51 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

It seems that there is a mixup in the backend code for including an
attachment.

For example, when I use:

\setupinteraction[state=start]

\starttext
The current file is \attachment[tag][file=\jobname.tex, name=test.tex,
title={Whatever}]
\stoptext

I was expecting that the current file will be attached as test.tex and
title Whatever. However, the title of the attached file is tag.

See the attached screenshot from Adobe Reader.

It seems that in the back end, tag is written to the PDF file where
title should have been written.


we can do this (line 308 of lpdf-wid)

if author ==  and title ~=  then
author = title
title  = filename or 
end

but you can also add an author field to the specification as what shows 
up in the pdf is partly the side effect of fallbacks for missing fields


(and ... it's one of these pdf features that is unreliable anyway as 
it's viewer dependent .. read: specs before implementations and then 
acrobat behavior defining what will happen; the whole 'associate 
rendering with some annotation mechanism is fragile as depending on the 
version of acrobat it works this or that way, probably because no 
application uses plugged-in rendering, it's the same with form fields 
... a depressing mess)


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[NTG-context] \attachment

2013-11-28 Thread Aditya Mahajan
It seems that there is a mixup in the backend code for including an 
attachment.


For example, when I use:

\setupinteraction[state=start]

\starttext
The current file is \attachment[tag][file=\jobname.tex, name=test.tex, 
title={Whatever}]

\stoptext

I was expecting that the current file will be attached as test.tex and 
title Whatever. However, the title of the attached file is tag.


See the attached screenshot from Adobe Reader.

It seems that in the back end, tag is written to the PDF file where title 
should have been written.


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Re: [NTG-context] UTF conversion via Lua (now with attachment)

2012-02-10 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .

... Well, my information was not correct.

There are characters  127 in the file, like ř, š...

Each char = 1 byte, and as I'm using Windows with CP 1250, the characters are 
displayed correctly.

But I have problem loading them into ConTeXt.

I need to convert the bytes  127 to UTF sequence, which would be acceptable by 
ConTeXt.

@Thomas:

The table looks nice but there are no entries for CP 1250 to UTF conversion.

I prepared some tables: character conversion and removal of diacritics (see the 
attachment);
maybe it would be handful to include them into ConTeXt somehow.

Best regards,

Lukas


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ges...@stud.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:


On 2012-02-10 11:22, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. wrote:

Hello,

I have many files with ASCII encoding; this encoding must be kept as these 
files are processed also by another program.

When I work with them in ConTeXt, I need to convert them to UTF.


Not needed, as every ASCII string is a valid UTF8  string:
   “The UTF encoding has several good properties. By far the most
important is that a byte in the ASCII range 0-127 represents
itself in UTF. Thus UTF is backward compatible with ASCII.”
http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/utf
You can use them in Luatex without further conversion.

Regards
Philipp




Does Lua (in ConTeXt scope) offer a transformation function or a table of chars 
[ASCII-code] - [UTF-code] or anything to provide the conversion?

Something like:

\startluacode
  local str = loadFile(a.txt) -- ASCII coded

  str = context.ACSII2UTF(str) -- Or something like this
\stopluacode

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Lukas


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Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice - the fix was minimal

2011-04-29 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Hans,

when you fixed the bug with attachment being listed twice
in the attachment list, you also enhanced attachment support

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:

as far as i can see there were a couple of issues: 
attachments without associated annotation, and labeling and both are covered, 
but using the same command and extra keys/values ...


as far as I understand, attachments without associated annotation are
called hidden in ConTeXt, as in

\attachment[test][file=att.tex,title=Oeps,author=Hans,subtitle=TeX 
File,method=hidden]

But that does not work and, as far as I can see from the current beta code, 
is not supposed to. For example, in lpdf-wid.lua we have


local function flushembeddedfiles()
if next(filestreams) then
local e = pdfarray()
for tag, reference in next, filestreams do
if not reference then
report_attachment(unreferenced file: tag '%s',tag)
elseif referenced[name] == hidden then
e[#e+1] = pdfstring(tag)
e[#e+1] = reference -- already a reference
else
-- messy spec ... when annot not in named else twice in menu 
list acrobat
end
end

lpdf.addtonames(EmbeddedFiles,pdfreference(pdfflushobject(pdfdictionary{ 
Names = e })))
end
end

Note the referenced[name] part, while there is no name variable.

It seems the working code did not find its way into released version
and some draft got shipped.

  Sincerely, Michail

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Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice - the fix was minimal

2011-02-28 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Hans,

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:


to be precise, the attachment is attached once
but is listed twice by Adobe Reader.


i'll patch lpdf-wid


on one hand your patch fixes the bug that is in the Subj. of the 
thread, but it does just that and nothing more. It is a pity

to see the opportunity to enhance attachments support wasted.
It'd likely be a long time before you revisit the issue :(

   Sincerely, Michail

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Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice - the fix was minimal

2011-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen

On 28-2-2011 8:52, Michail Vidiassov wrote:

Dear Hans,

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:


to be precise, the attachment is attached once
but is listed twice by Adobe Reader.


i'll patch lpdf-wid


on one hand your patch fixes the bug that is in the Subj. of the thread,
but it does just that and nothing more. It is a pity
to see the opportunity to enhance attachments support wasted.
It'd likely be a long time before you revisit the issue :(


this is a bit of a weird comment given that i haven't uploaded anything 
that you can comment on; as far as i can see there were a couple of 
issues: attachments without associated annotation, and labeling and both 
are covered, but using the same command and extra keys/values ...


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Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice - the fix was minimal (?)

2011-02-28 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Hans,

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:


to be precise, the attachment is attached once
but is listed twice by Adobe Reader.

i'll patch lpdf-wid

on one hand your patch fixes the bug that is in the Subj. of the thread,


this is a bit of a weird comment given that i haven't uploaded anything that 
you can comment on; as far as i can see there were a couple of issues: 
attachments without associated annotation, and labeling and both are covered, 
but using the same command and extra keys/values ...


sorry for being so dumb,
but on one hand you haven't uploaded anything,
on the other there were a couple of issues that are covered by now,
and on the third one first-setup.sh brought me this morning lpdf-wid.lua
that now has 
---

local ignorereferenced = true -- fuzzy pdf spec .. twice in attachment list, 
can become an option
---
etc. - that change caused my comment.

On the positive side - ConTeXt internals are your internal affairs,
you are more sovereign than some kings and revolution leaders ;)
Just tell us what that user-level extra keys/values are and we'll sing, 
dance and rejoice, being innocent of knowing what only the ConTeXt creator is to know.


  Sincerely, Michail
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Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice - the fix was minimal (?)

2011-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen

On 28-2-2011 10:24, Michail Vidiassov wrote:


Just tell us what that user-level extra keys/values are and we'll
sing, dance and rejoice, being innocent of knowing what only the ConTeXt
creator is to know.


i posted those keys in a previous mail ... but there is no beta upload 
yet (will be later this week)


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Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice - more research

2011-02-26 Thread Hans Hagen

On 23-2-2011 12:35, Michail Vidiassov wrote:


as far as I understand ConTeXt now can not link file attachment to
arbitrary picture, just to some predefined icons. Am I right?


you can use symbols (as with fields and other widgets)


Is it going to change? Soon? There are comments in the code about
lack of measurement support for XForm - is that the issue and what
that issue is?


unrelated, more a dev note


I have already met that complaints in 3D Annotations support code.
BTW, I am interested in FileAttachment Annotations as a way to
work with 3D models. With LaTeX the main PDF file may contain a 2D picture,
that can be displayed in any PDF viewer, but if you click on it in Adobe
viewer attached PDF file opens with 3D model in it. That attached file
may be produced by some third-party tool, since often such tools output
not just 3D model fit for including in PDF, but a one-page PDF with the
3D model, complex JavaScript to control it (for example to animate it)
and some intarctive text related to the model.


I'm not sure what you mean here. There is some u3d and shockwave 
support. (I added u3d because someone asked it but the requester never 
tested it). Anyhow, these features are only extended when we (luigi and 
me) get proper public test files


Concerning attachments, the next beta will have a new definition model 
with inheritance but the \use.. method is still there as well.


The hidden method will not place an annotation. Definition is not really 
needed, so a direct \attachment works ok, but a bit of abstraction 
(separation between definition and use) does not hurt


% old but stil valid method (consistent with other \use):
%
% \useattachment[test.tex]
% \useattachment[whatever][test.tex]
% \useattachment[whatever][newname][test.tex]
% \useattachment[whatever][title][newname][test.tex]
%
% new method:
%
% \attachment[test.tex]
% \attachment[whatever1][file=test.tex]
% \attachment[whatever2][file=test.tex,method=hidden]
% \attachment[whatever3][name=newname,file=test.tex]
% \attachment[whatever4][title=mytitle,name=newname,file=test.tex]
%
% indirect
%
% \defineattachment[whatever5][file=test.tex] 
\attachment[whatever5][method=hidden]
% \defineattachment[whatever5][file=test.tex,method=hidden] 
\attachment[whatever5]

%
% direct (no definitions)
%
% \attachment[test][file=oeps.tex,title=Oeps,author=Hans,subtitle=TeX 
File,method=hidden]
% 
\attachment[label=test,file=oeps.tex,title=Oeps,author=Hans,subtitle=TeX 
File,method=hidden]

%
% autolabel:
%
% \attachment[file=oeps.tex,title=Oeps,author=Hans,subtitle=TeX 
File,method=hidden]

%
% % \setupattachments[\c!symbol={symbol-normal,symbol-down}]

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Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice - more research

2011-02-23 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Hans,

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:

i'll patch lpdf-wid but somehow I get the impression that it's more a viewer 
issue (the list shown seems to be a merge of filename as well as symbolic 
names while a clever list builder should look at the referred objects) ... 
but maybe no one else usesvdifferent symbolic names (we had similar issues 
with fields in the past and even now advanced field support is somewhat 
bugged one or the other way, depending on the viewer version, esp chained 
ones)


to say the truth I do not understand what are you talking about :(
The issues I have in mind - separating global attachments and attachments 
linked to icons on pages, additional descriptions for attached files -

are addressed in the attached patches.
I am not sure about using attachment lebel as T key, that is indended for 
following:
The text label that shall be displayed in the title bar of the annotation’s 
pop-up window when open and active. This entry shall identify the user who 
added the annotation.

and shows as the upper line when mouse pointer is above attachment icon.
Did not try to have file size and time information added to file stream -
but it'd be nice to have.

Sincerely, Michail
PS. Patches show what I want done, not how it is to be done.
Just hope that my lua may be more clear than my English.--- back-ini.lua.org2011-02-16 01:53:17.0 +0300
+++ back-ini.lua2011-02-23 09:17:50.0 +0300
@@ -67,6 +67,7 @@
 registercomment= nothing,
 
 embedfile  = nothing,
+globattachfile = nothing,
 attachfile = nothing,
 attachmentid   = nothing,
 
--- scrn-int.mkiv.org   2011-01-31 13:26:23.0 +0300
+++ scrn-int.mkiv   2011-02-23 12:34:22.0 +0300
@@ -405,6 +405,25 @@
 % % \setupattachments[\c!symbol={symbol-normal,symbol-down}]
 %
 % \starttext \attachment[whatever] \stoptext
+%
+% \globattachment[test.tex]
+% \globattachment[description][test.tex]
+% \globattachment[description][newname.tex][test.tex]
+
+\def\globattachment
+  {\dotripleempty\doglobattachment}
+
+\def\doglobattachment[#1][#2][#3]% description newfilename filename
+  {\ifthirdargument
+ \dodoglobattachment{#1}{#2}{#3}%
+   \else\ifsecondargument
+ \dodoglobattachment{#1}{}{#2}%
+   \else
+ \dodoglobattachment{}{}{#1}%
+   \fi\fi}
+
+\def\dodoglobattachment#1#2#3% description newfilename filename
+  
{\ctxlua{backends.codeinjections.globattachfile{description=#1,newname=#2,filename=#3}}}
 
 \def\useattachment
   {\doquadrupleempty\douseattachment}
--- lpdf-wid.lua.org2011-02-08 22:41:44.0 +0300
+++ lpdf-wid.lua2011-02-23 12:27:53.0 +0300
@@ -160,14 +160,14 @@
 
 --
 
-local nofattachments, attachments, filestreams = 0, { }, { }
+local nofattachments, attachments, filestreams, globfilestreams = 0, { }, { }, 
{ }
 
 -- todo: hash and embed once
 
 local function flushembeddedfiles()
-if next(filestreams) then
+if next(globfilestreams) then
 local e = pdfarray()
-for name, reference in next, filestreams do
+for name, reference in next, globfilestreams do
 if reference then
 e[#e+1] = pdfstring(name)
 e[#e+1] = reference -- already a reference
@@ -181,7 +181,7 @@
 
 lpdf.registerdocumentfinalizer(flushembeddedfiles,embeddedfiles)
 
-function codeinjections.embedfile(filename)
+function codeinjections.embedfile(filename,newname,description)
 local r = filestreams[filename]
 if r == false then
 return nil
@@ -201,12 +201,28 @@
 UF   = pdfstring(newname or basename),
 EF   = pdfdictionary { F = pdfreference(f) },
 }
+if description then
+d[Desc] = pdfstring(description)
+end
 local r = pdfreference(pdfflushobject(d))
 filestreams[filename] = r
 return r
 end
 end
 
+function codeinjections.globattachfile(specification)
+local filename = specification.filename
+if not filename or filename ==  then
+-- todo: message
+return
+end
+local description = specification.description or 
+local newname = specification.newname or 
+if description ==  then description = nil end
+if newname ==  then newname = nil end
+globfilestreams[filename] = 
codeinjections.embedfile(filename,newname,description)
+end
+
 function codeinjections.attachfile(specification)
 local attachment = interactions.attachments.attachment(specification.label)
 if not attachment then
@@ -239,6 +255,7 @@
 AP   = appearance,
 OC   = analyzelayer(specification.layer),
 C= 
pdfcolorspec(specification.colormodel,specification.colorvalue),
+T= pdfstring(label),
 }
 -- as soon as we can ask for the dimensions of an xform we can
 -- use them here

Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice - more research

2011-02-23 Thread Hans Hagen

On 23-2-2011 11:21, Michail Vidiassov wrote:


to say the truth I do not understand what are you talking about :(


Attachments have some history in pdf and each version was slightly 
different. The same is true for widgets. Some of that has to do with 
security issues, some with the fact that acrobat editing interfaces 
always lag behind new features, etc. I gave up on advanced stuff when I 
noticed that custom visualizations had changed again. I'll have look at 
it but not this week (away for a few days). I also need to it with Luigi 
as he often has torture tests laying around. We also need to keep the 
a/x standards in mind.


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Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice - more research

2011-02-23 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Hans,

On Wed, 23 Feb 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:


Attachments have some history in pdf and each version was slightly different.


as far as I understand ConTeXt now can not link file attachment to 
arbitrary picture, just to some predefined icons. Am I right?

Is it going  to change? Soon? There are comments in the code about
lack of measurement support for XForm - is that the issue and what
that issue is?
I have already met that complaints in 3D Annotations support code.
BTW, I am interested in FileAttachment  Annotations as a way to
work with 3D models. With LaTeX the main PDF file may contain a 2D picture,
that can be displayed in any PDF viewer, but if you click on it in Adobe 
viewer attached PDF file opens with 3D model in it. That attached file may 
be produced by some third-party tool, since often such tools output not 
just 3D model fit for including in PDF, but a one-page PDF with the 3D 
model, complex JavaScript to control it (for example to animate it) and 
some intarctive text related to the model.


 Sincerely, Michail

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Re: [NTG-context] \useattachment: Embedding files in PDFs - was attachment attaches twice - more research

2011-02-21 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Hans,

I'd like to remind you about an old problem report
--
From: Tobias Burnus
Date: 2008-01-04 16:01 +300

I can use \useattachment to embed/attach files in a PDF file. I can use:

\useattachment[whatever][title][newname][test.tex]
\attachment[whatever]

This creates an attachment with the description title and the name
test.tex. However, how can I set the author/subject? (Shown in tool
tip of the annotation symbol; it is shown above the description;
actually subject is enough for me.)

Additionally, I miss the file size and possibly the modification date
for the attachments; they are often handy to have.

Is is possible to associate an embedded file stream with the document
itself without creating an annotation symbol as with \attachment in
ConTeXt? (The PDF spec allows this; cf. e.g. 3.10.3 in the PDF spec and
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/EmbedFiles.pdf for an example PDF file.)

---

what he names author/subject is the T entry in annotation dictionary 
(the same where /Subtype /FileAttachment goes), that is described as
The text label that shall be displayed in the title bar of the 
annotation’s pop-up window when open and active. This entry shall identify the user who 
added the annotation.
It appears as the upper of the two lines that are shown when the mouse 
pointer is over file attachment annotation icon (the lower one is the 
description mentioned above).


And for file size and modification date to show up file stream has to 
look like

8 0 obj /Params  /ModDate (20050217) /Size 2048 /Length 1218stream
not just
15 0 obj /Length 144stream
as it is now.

   Sincerely, Michail

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Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice

2011-02-20 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear All,

to be precise, the attachment is attached once
(can be seen if one inspects the sample PDF files in uncompressed form with 
any text or binary editor - if you do not have Adobe Acrobat), but is 
listed twice by Adobe Reader.


  Sincerely, Michail




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Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice

2011-02-20 Thread Reviczky, Adam
 to be precise, the attachment is attached once
 (can be seen if one inspects the sample PDF files in uncompressed form with 
 any text or binary editor - if you do not have Adobe Acrobat), but is 
 listed twice by Adobe Reader.
Thanks, but the question is still why the beta produces this while it is fine 
with the current.

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Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice - more research

2011-02-20 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Developers,

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011, Michail Vidiassov wrote:


to be precise, the attachment is attached once
but is listed twice by Adobe Reader.


PDF spec states
--
An embedded file stream shall be included in a PDF document in one of the 
following ways:
•	Any file specification dictionary in the document may have an EF 
entry that specifies an embedded file stream. The stream data shall still 
be associated with a location in the file system. In particular, this 
method shall be used for file attachment annotations (see 12.5.6.15, File 
Attachment Annotations), which associate the embedded file with a location 
on a page in the document.
•	Embedded file streams may be associated with the document as a 
whole through the EmbeddedFiles entry (PDF 1.4) in the PDF document’s name 
dictionary (see 7.7.4, Name Dictionary). The associated name tree shall 
map name strings to file specifications that refer to embedded file streams 
through their EF entries.

--

while code in lpdf-wid.lua sends everything to EmbeddedFiles - including 
files associated with a location on a page in the document as in the 
examples in the originator's post.


For example http://www.microtype.com/showcase/EmbedFiles.pdf
has it done correctly, EmbeddedFiles refers only to that embedded files 
that are not linked to particular icons on pages.


 Sincerely, Michail

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Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice - more research

2011-02-20 Thread Hans Hagen

On 20-2-2011 11:21, Michail Vidiassov wrote:

Dear Developers,

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011, Michail Vidiassov wrote:


to be precise, the attachment is attached once
but is listed twice by Adobe Reader.


PDF spec states
--
An embedded file stream shall be included in a PDF document in one of
the following ways:
• Any file specification dictionary in the document may have an EF entry
that specifies an embedded file stream. The stream data shall still be
associated with a location in the file system. In particular, this
method shall be used for file attachment annotations (see 12.5.6.15,
File Attachment Annotations), which associate the embedded file with a
location on a page in the document.
• Embedded file streams may be associated with the document as a whole
through the EmbeddedFiles entry (PDF 1.4) in the PDF document’s name
dictionary (see 7.7.4, Name Dictionary). The associated name tree
shall map name strings to file specifications that refer to embedded
file streams through their EF entries.
--

while code in lpdf-wid.lua sends everything to EmbeddedFiles - including
files associated with a location on a page in the document as in the
examples in the originator's post.


i'll patch lpdf-wid but somehow I get the impression that it's more a 
viewer issue (the list shown seems to be a merge of filename as well as 
symbolic names while a clever list builder should look at the referred 
objects) ... but maybe no one else usesvdifferent symbolic names (we had 
similar issues with fields in the past and even now advanced field 
support is somewhat bugged one or the other way, depending on the viewer 
version, esp chained ones)


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Re: [NTG-context] attachment attaches twice - please, do not fix by trimming

2011-02-20 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Hans,

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:


to be precise, the attachment is attached once
but is listed twice by Adobe Reader.


code in lpdf-wid.lua sends everything to EmbeddedFiles - including
files associated with a location on a page in the document 


i'll patch lpdf-wid


it'd be nice to not only fix icon-linked attachments (current 
functionality), but to also allow to create document-level attachments

not linked to icons - not that I see any particular use for that just now,
but since functionality is already there (but misused) it'd be a pity to 
just drop it.


  Sincerely, Michail


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[NTG-context] attachment attaches twice

2011-02-19 Thread Reviczky, Adam
Hi

I'm trying to use PDF attachments again, but run into some issues.
Here's my small example (att.tex):
%%% start %%%
\setupinteraction[state=start]

\starttext
\useattachment[myfile][title][name][att.tex]
\attachment[myfile]
\stoptext
%%% end %%%

1) Using context-current makes 1 attachment, whereas context beta makes 2 
attachments (page + attachments tab?).
I've attached the two generated PDFs. I guess the attachments tab attachment 
is not intended.

2) The third parameter should give a custom name for the attachment, and I 
recall this from old times (maybe mkii) to behave like that, though I can't 
reproduce this now. Is this broken (as it has no effect right now)?

3) I want to have some attachments (source code) from a url, can this be added 
to behave like \externalfigure?
I want to use it like this: 
\useattachment[myfile][title][name][http://git.example.com/master/att.tex];
Right now that just attaches an Unknown (maybe shortcut) but it cannot be 
viewed/opened or saved.

Thanks
Adam


att_20100730.pdf
Description: att_20100730.pdf


att_20110218.pdf
Description: att_20110218.pdf
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[NTG-context] \attachment not working in MkIV

2009-10-29 Thread Matthijs Kooijman
Hi,

I've been trying to get \attachment to work, but I get a Lua error. The
following example, (taken from scrn-int.mkiv and stripped a bit) provides an
error:

  \setupinteraction[state=start]

  \useattachment[whatever][test.tex]
  \starttext \attachment[whatever] \stoptext

The tail of the output is:
  interaction : active
  ! LuaTeX error main ctx instance:1: attempt to index global 'interactions' 
(a nil value)
  stack traceback:
  main ctx instance:1: in main chunk.
  \douseattachment ...newname=#2, filename=#2 }}
\else \ctxlua 
{interaction...
  to be read again 
 \starttext
  l.4 \starttext 
 \attachment[whatever] \stoptext

What's up with this?

Gr.

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Re: [NTG-context] \attachment not working in MkIV

2009-10-29 Thread Hans Hagen

Matthijs Kooijman wrote:

Hi,

I've been trying to get \attachment to work, but I get a Lua error. The
following example, (taken from scrn-int.mkiv and stripped a bit) provides an
error:

  \setupinteraction[state=start]

  \useattachment[whatever][test.tex]
  \starttext \attachment[whatever] \stoptext


add

\registerctxluafile{scrn-int}{1.001}

to scrn-int.mkiv as it seems that it's not loaded

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Re: [NTG-context] \attachment not working in MkIV

2009-10-29 Thread Matthijs Kooijman
 add
 
 \registerctxluafile{scrn-int}{1.001}
 
 to scrn-int.mkiv as it seems that it's not loaded
Yup, that removed the error. I even get something icon in the file, but
acrobat reader somehow silently fails to open the file... Oh well, let's do
without it.

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Re: [NTG-context] How to set a layout shown in the attachment png file?

2009-04-16 Thread Alex Lubberts
 I attached a PNG file to show the layout that I want. I want the text part
 narrowed and
 right aligned. I tried the following settings:

 \setuplayout
[backspace=20mm,
 topspace=20mm,
 height=257mm,
 width=170mm,
 %textwidth=115mm,
 header=10mm,
 footer=0mm,
 rightmargin=0mm,
 leftmargin=25mm,
 leftmargindistance=-25mm,]

 The problem is that text is too wide. I commented the 'textwidth' for it
 will make the
 narrowed text centering. What else do I need to set?

From the picture the exact measures are not clear, but perhaps you should
try:
  ...
  width=115mm,
  ...
  leftmargindistance=25mm]
'width' is used to set the textwidth. And 'leftmargindistance'is used to
indicate the distance between the lefmargin column and the body text, so I
think it should be a positive amount. This setting will result in an empty
backspace of 20mm + margin of 25mm + 25mm whitespace + 115mm bodytext +
cutspace of 25mm cutspace (assuming you're using A4 papersize).

Regards,
Alex


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Re: [NTG-context] How to set a layout shown in the attachment png file?

2009-04-16 Thread Wei-Wei Guo

Hi Ales,

Alex Lubberts 写道:

I attached a PNG file to show the layout that I want. I want the text part
narrowed and
right aligned. I tried the following settings:

\setuplayout
   [backspace=20mm,
topspace=20mm,
height=257mm,
width=170mm,
%textwidth=115mm,
header=10mm,
footer=0mm,
rightmargin=0mm,
leftmargin=25mm,
leftmargindistance=-25mm,]

The problem is that text is too wide. I commented the 'textwidth' for it
will make the
narrowed text centering. What else do I need to set?


From the picture the exact measures are not clear, but perhaps you should


The picture only shows relative position of header, text, and margin.



try:
  ...
  width=115mm,
  ...
  leftmargindistance=25mm]
'width' is used to set the textwidth. And 'leftmargindistance'is used to
indicate the distance between the lefmargin column and the body text, so I
think it should be a positive amount. This setting will result in an empty
backspace of 20mm + margin of 25mm + 25mm whitespace + 115mm bodytext +
cutspace of 25mm cutspace (assuming you're using A4 papersize).


I tried. It doesn't work. As my understanding, margin and margindistance do not
affect layout. They only decide where margins are.


Best wishes,
Wei-Wei

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[NTG-context] How to set a layout shown in the attachment png file?

2009-04-15 Thread Wei-Wei Guo

Dear all,

I attached a PNG file to show the layout that I want. I want the text part 
narrowed and
right aligned. I tried the following settings:

\setuplayout
  [backspace=20mm,
   topspace=20mm,
   height=257mm,
   width=170mm,
   %textwidth=115mm,
   header=10mm,
   footer=0mm,
   rightmargin=0mm,
   leftmargin=25mm,
   leftmargindistance=-25mm,]

The problem is that text is too wide. I commented the 'textwidth' for it will 
make the
narrowed text centering. What else do I need to set?


Best wishes,
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[NTG-context] script on attachment

2009-04-15 Thread Bill Long
I use 

 \useattachment[auto][example_show][sample.data][./sample.data]
 \attachment[auto]

to attach my sample data to pdf, but as this data need open by
specific script.

Are there any way to open the attached sample.data with my script when
viewer click on it. or else I have to let them download the script and
change the preference application to open it. 


BR

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[NTG-context] how to use attachment file as a script argument

2009-04-14 Thread Bill Long
based on the example of use mplayer play the movie, I write down
sthing like

\defineprogram[sample.data][sample.data.sh]
\goto{\externalfigure[sample.data][width=0.48\textwidth]}[program(sample.data{})]

and the content of  sample.data.sh  is

#!/bin/bash
 FILE=$(basename $0); gnome-terminal -e cat ${FILE/.sh/}

it does work, but I wanna know if there are better way to
make this. as this way has some obvious problem:
  
 1. if I send this pdf file to other guy, the script won't  execute, as it
 can't find out the sample.data file. same thing will happen if I move
 my sample.data to other directory.

 2. it's take too much effort if I have lots of file to analysis, I
 have to write lots of file like sample.data1.sh,
 sample.data2.sh... with same content, soft link maybe a solution, but
 I hope there are more easy solution.

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Re: [NTG-context] xetex and attachment: troubles

2009-04-10 Thread Hans Hagen

Jesse Alama wrote:

Any progress on this?  As of 2009-04-09, attachments with xetex still
behave as Andrea described on 2008-03-31.  (I'm using the xetex in the
minimals.)


i didn't look into it; it's mostly a dpx backend issue btw, not that 
much related to xetex


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Re: [NTG-context] xetex and attachment: troubles

2009-04-09 Thread Jesse Alama
Any progress on this?  As of 2009-04-09, attachments with xetex still
behave as Andrea described on 2008-03-31.  (I'm using the xetex in the
minimals.)

Jesse

Andrea Valle va...@di.unito.it writes:

 Thanks Mojca, Hans,

 ok, I've understood.

 :)

 -a-



 On 3 Apr 2008, at 12:17, Hans Hagen wrote:

 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:

 Thanks Mojca,

 The problem is not the --xtx switch, but the lack of support for
 the
 underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.


 Sorry, please remember I'm very far from there...
 I was just meaning: the problem is in xetex engine?



 I googled a bit and found the following slides:
       http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
 see page 18 in particular.


 thanks, means really nothing to me :-)


 It was meant for someone else trying to help :-)


 she meant me; however, i have no test file and probably a non working 
 xetex on my machine (need to update)

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Re: [NTG-context] Attachment sizes

2008-12-18 Thread Yue Wang
Hi,

 When you do have a large file, please email it directly
 to the target persion (offlist), or, if it is meant for
 everybody, put it on a web or ftp site (if you have one)
 or upload it to the wiki:

  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:Upload


Well, thanks for the explanation. I will bear this in mind when I send
email with attachment to ntg-context next time. btw, maybe we should
consider setting up a website like http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/ (maybe
paste.contextgarden.net) so that all the files won't be lost? It is
very useful to browse mailing list of previous years, but most of the
links in the mail archives became broken links now.

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[NTG-context] Attachment sizes

2008-12-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi all,

A quick note from your mailing list moderator.

The maximum message size for this list is 64KB. Because
pdf documents tend to be base64 encoded during email
transport, this means that you cannot attach PDFs
larger than approximately 40KB in file size.

Please, will you keep that in mind while sending mails
to ntg-context? Having to go through the moderation list
and manually forwarding messages people is tedious and
error prone.

We will not change the size limit because there are quite
a few people here on slow links. Besides, it will never
be large enough anyway.

When you do have a large file, please email it directly
to the target persion (offlist), or, if it is meant for
everybody, put it on a web or ftp site (if you have one)
or upload it to the wiki:

  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:Upload


Thanks in advance,

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Re: [NTG-context] xetex and attachment: troubles

2008-04-03 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Mojca,




The problem is not the --xtx switch, but the lack of support for the
underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.



Sorry, please remember I'm very far from there...
I was just meaning: the problem is in xetex engine?



I googled a bit and found the following slides:
  http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
see page 18 in particular.


thanks, means really nothing to me :-)



In spec-fdf there is:

\definespecial \doattachfile {\doPDFattachfile}

\def\doPDFattachfile#1#2#3#4#5#6#7#8%
  {\bgroup % title width height color symbol file
   \edefconvertedargument\PDFfile{#8}%
   % beware: the symbol may (indirectly) use the file
   % reference when typesetting the object number;
   \presetPDFsymbolappearance{#5}{#6}{#2}{#3}{#4}% sets width/height
   \startPDFsymbolappearance
 \doPDFembedfile\PDFfile{#7}{#8}%
 \doPDFgetembeddedfilereference\PDFfile\PDFobjectreference
 \setFDFlayer\@@DriverAttachmentLayer
 \doPDFannotation{\width}{\totalheight}
   {/Subtype /FileAttachment
/FS \PDFobjectreference\space
/Contents (#1)
\PDFsymbol
\FDFlayer
\PDFattributes}%
   \stopPDFsymbolappearance
   \egroup}





Something similar needs to be added to spec-dpx.tex.


Can't follow you here. What is spec-dpx?


Best

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Re: [NTG-context] xetex and attachment: troubles

2008-04-03 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Mojca, Hans,

ok, I've understood.

:)

-a-



On 3 Apr 2008, at 12:17, Hans Hagen wrote:


Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:

Thanks Mojca,

The problem is not the --xtx switch, but the lack of support  
for the

underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.


Sorry, please remember I'm very far from there...
I was just meaning: the problem is in xetex engine?



I googled a bit and found the following slides:
  http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
see page 18 in particular.


thanks, means really nothing to me :-)


It was meant for someone else trying to help :-)


she meant me; however, i have no test file and probably a non working
xetex on my machine (need to update)

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Re: [NTG-context] xetex and attachment: troubles

2008-04-03 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:
 Thanks Mojca,

 The problem is not the --xtx switch, but the lack of support for the
 underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.


 Sorry, please remember I'm very far from there...
 I was just meaning: the problem is in xetex engine?



 I googled a bit and found the following slides:
   http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
 see page 18 in particular.

  thanks, means really nothing to me :-)

It was meant for someone else trying to help :-)

  Something similar needs to be added to spec-dpx.tex.

 Can't follow you here. What is spec-dpx?

[TEXMF]/tex/context/base/spec-dpx.tex is a file that someone should
fix in order to make attachments work with XeTeX.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] xetex and attachment: troubles

2008-04-03 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:
 Thanks Mojca,

 The problem is not the --xtx switch, but the lack of support for the
 underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.


 Sorry, please remember I'm very far from there...
 I was just meaning: the problem is in xetex engine?



 I googled a bit and found the following slides:
   http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
 see page 18 in particular.

 thanks, means really nothing to me :-)
 
 It was meant for someone else trying to help :-)

she meant me; however, i have no test file and probably a non working 
xetex on my machine (need to update)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] xetex and attachment: troubles

2008-04-02 Thread Andrea Valle
Sorry, but I would need a solution, or at least to know if there's  
nothing to do.


Any hints?

Best

Thanks

-a-


On 31 Mar 2008, at 17:28, Andrea Valle wrote:


Dear all,
I'm using xetex with fun (as suggested and discussed on the mailing  
list).


I'm revising a previously created document which used attachment  
command.

(the one documented here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ 
Verbatim_text#A_different_approach_to_formatting_and_code_colorization

)

The actual version is here:
http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/sw/sc/prd_tSCIRMA_scr.pdf

Now, with ConTeXt no problem.
If I use XeConTeXt (-- texexec --xtx) the file is not attached  
(there's the marker, a link is diplayed, but Acrobat says that  
there's no attachment).

As far as I can say, the problem seems to depend on --xtx switch,

Any hints?

Thanks

Best

-a-


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Re: [NTG-context] xetex and attachment: troubles

2008-04-02 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:
 Dear all,
 I'm using xetex with fun (as suggested and discussed on the mailing list).

 I'm revising a previously created document which used attachment command.
 (the one documented here:
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Verbatim_text#A_different_approach_to_formatting_and_code_colorization
 )

 The actual version is here:
 http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/sw/sc/prd_tSCIRMA_scr.pdf

 Now, with ConTeXt no problem.
 If I use XeConTeXt (-- texexec --xtx) the file is not attached (there's the
 marker, a link is diplayed, but Acrobat says that there's no attachment).
 As far as I can say, the problem seems to depend on --xtx switch,

The problem is not the --xtx switch, but the lack of support for the
underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.

I googled a bit and found the following slides:
  http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
see page 18 in particular.

In spec-fdf there is:

\definespecial \doattachfile {\doPDFattachfile}

\def\doPDFattachfile#1#2#3#4#5#6#7#8%
  {\bgroup % title width height color symbol file
   \edefconvertedargument\PDFfile{#8}%
   % beware: the symbol may (indirectly) use the file
   % reference when typesetting the object number;
   \presetPDFsymbolappearance{#5}{#6}{#2}{#3}{#4}% sets width/height
   \startPDFsymbolappearance
 \doPDFembedfile\PDFfile{#7}{#8}%
 \doPDFgetembeddedfilereference\PDFfile\PDFobjectreference
 \setFDFlayer\@@DriverAttachmentLayer
 \doPDFannotation{\width}{\totalheight}
   {/Subtype /FileAttachment
/FS \PDFobjectreference\space
/Contents (#1)
\PDFsymbol
\FDFlayer
\PDFattributes}%
   \stopPDFsymbolappearance
   \egroup}

Something similar needs to be added to spec-dpx.tex. (If Hans doesn't
reply, then someone else will have to.)

Mojca
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[NTG-context] xetex and attachment: troubles

2008-03-31 Thread Andrea Valle

Dear all,
I'm using xetex with fun (as suggested and discussed on the mailing  
list).


I'm revising a previously created document which used attachment  
command.

(the one documented here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ 
Verbatim_text#A_different_approach_to_formatting_and_code_colorization

)

The actual version is here:
http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/sw/sc/prd_tSCIRMA_scr.pdf

Now, with ConTeXt no problem.
If I use XeConTeXt (-- texexec --xtx) the file is not attached  
(there's the marker, a link is diplayed, but Acrobat says that  
there's no attachment).

As far as I can say, the problem seems to depend on --xtx switch,

Any hints?

Thanks

Best

-a-


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(Ken Perlin on noise)





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[NTG-context] Attachment sizes

2006-04-08 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi all,

I have just approved two files with rather large attachments by
mistake. My apologies to everyone who is on a slow link.

To the original posters: in the future, please make large
examples available on the internet somewhere. Some of the people
on this list are on rather slow connections.

Cheers,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Attachment sizes

2006-04-08 Thread R S Ananda Murthy
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have just approved two files with rather large attachments by
 mistake. My apologies to everyone who is on a slow link.

 To the original posters: in the future, please make large
 examples available on the internet somewhere. Some of the people
 on this list are on rather slow connections.

 Cheers,
 Taco
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Please excuse me for the big attachment. I will not repeat this in future.
With due apologies,

Anand
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