Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-31 Thread Santy, Michael
Hagen, Hans wrote: it's always a problem to determine what's left on a page \def\blah{The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy stupid dog.} \dorecurse{62}{\blah} \synchronizeoutput this will force the otr but is not always fails safe (i.e. vertical spacing may be messed) ... one of

Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-31 Thread Peter Rolf
Santy, Michael schrieb: The same as in my first reply. Look at the first page with the text only. There isn't a space behind the sentence(s) and TeX can't break the paragraph (text expands it's lower border). This also breaks the splitting of the table, as it is (partly) on the same page.

Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-31 Thread Peter Rolf
...just some further tests. i was wrong, as there is no table breaking without the \placetable[split] option. seems my command reference is outdated :( if you don't use \placetable at all, things work again. so there must be some vspace mess with the splitting option of placetable and the one of

Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-31 Thread Santy, Michael
Peter, There definitely seems to be something wrong with the splitting behavior, but I'm able to illustrate the same problem regardless of whether its wrapped in a \placetable (see example below). From my experiments, wrapping a table in placetable didn't seem to fix the broken tables or

Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-31 Thread Peter Rolf
Santy, Michael schrieb: Peter, There definitely seems to be something wrong with the splitting behavior, but I'm able to illustrate the same problem regardless of whether its wrapped in a \placetable (see example below). From my experiments, wrapping a table in placetable didn't seem to

Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-31 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: just some further tests. i was wrong, as there is no table breaking without the \placetable[split] option. seems my command reference is outdated :( if you don't use \placetable at all, things work again. so there must be some vspace mess with the splitting option of

Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-31 Thread Hans Hagen
Santy, Michael wrote: have you tried this with your 'real world' documents? Peter, Although adding the \blank didn't fix the table splitting on this contrived document, it actually seems to fix the problem on the few real world documents that have shown this behavior. Although some of

Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-31 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb: Santy, Michael wrote: have you tried this with your 'real world' documents? Peter, Although adding the \blank didn't fix the table splitting on this contrived document, it actually seems to fix the problem on the few real world documents that have shown this behavior.

Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-31 Thread Santy, Michael
have you tried this with your 'real world' documents? Peter, Although adding the \blank didn't fix the table splitting on this contrived document, it actually seems to fix the problem on the few real world documents that have shown this behavior. Although some of the breaks are still not

Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-30 Thread Santy, Michael
Thanks Peter for the pointer to the multipage table in the wiki. I don't know how I overlooked that example. However, I was still able to duplicate the problem with this sample table by including a page full of text before the table (see below). If the dorecurse is set to 62 or 63, the

Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-30 Thread Peter Rolf
Santy, Michael schrieb: Thanks Peter for the pointer to the multipage table in the wiki. I don't know how I overlooked that example. However, I was still able to duplicate the problem with this sample table by including a page full of text before the table (see below). If the dorecurse

Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-30 Thread Hans Hagen
Santy, Michael wrote: Thanks Peter for the pointer to the multipage table in the wiki. I don't know how I overlooked that example. However, I was still able to duplicate the problem with this sample table by including a page full of text before the table (see below). If the dorecurse

[NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-30 Thread Santy, Michael
The same as in my first reply. Look at the first page with the text only. There isn't a space behind the sentence(s) and TeX can't break the paragraph (text expands it's lower border). This also breaks the splitting of the table, as it is (partly) on the same page. Peter, all of the

[NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-29 Thread Santy, Michael
In our XML-ConTeXt-PDF workflow, we've encountered a few intermittent problems when using split natural tables. I'm not able to post the original documents in which the problems are manifesting, but below is a document that reproduces one of the problems. The first page of the document is

Re: [NTG-context] natural table splitting problems

2007-10-29 Thread Peter Rolf
Santy, Michael schrieb: In our XML-ConTeXt-PDF workflow, we've encountered a few intermittent problems when using split natural tables. I'm not able to post the original documents in which the problems are manifesting, but below is a document that reproduces one of the problems. The first