Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-18 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:07:55 -0600, Russell Urquhart russurquha...@verizon.net wrote: As a tech writer for 27+ years, who is a recent Context newbie, I applaud your efforts and wish you the best. I just recently have been in the middle of a paradigm change myself, going from Xywrite on

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-16 Thread Russell Urquhart
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 01:16:55PM -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Yes!! That's _exactly_ the challenge! My vision is for ConTeXt to break out of the shell! :-) Best wishes Idris -- Hi Idris, As a tech writer for 27+ years, who is a recent Context newbie, I

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 09:20, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: And from what I see on this list, I'm not sure winblows users are the majority. According to statistics of distribution downloads (just counting unique IPs, so not absolutely accurate), windows users amount to 17-20% downloads. Wiki gets

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Florian Wobbe
According to statistics of distribution downloads (just counting unique IPs, so not absolutely accurate), windows users amount to 17-20% downloads. Wiki gets 46% of windows users. Have you ever googled for something context related? You end up mostly with false positives because context can

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Hans Hagen
On 15-8-2011 9:51, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On 08/15/2011 09:46 AM, Florian Wobbe wrote: Have you ever googled for something context related? You end up mostly with false positives because context can appear just in any context. I wonder if all those windows hits are from people who searched

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Martin Schröder
2011/8/15 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de: Have you ever googled for something context related? You end up mostly with false positives because context can appear just in any context. They even have their own conference: http://context-11.teco.edu :-) Best Martin

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
Dear Knights, A lot of the criticism seems to miss the point :-) Part of the aim of the Book is to bring in new users, most of us here already know what we're doing. And M$-Windows dominates the marketplace for better or for worse. I want to break out of the usual paradigm of presenting

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Pontus Lurcock
On Mon 15 Aug 2011, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On 08/15/2011 09:16 AM, luigi scarso wrote: Under linux Wine sometimes does a great job. *If* the linux user happens to have 150 bucks and thinks it's a good idea to give that to Microsoft. Huh? I've been using Wine for a while (though not for

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Pablo Rodríguez
On 08/15/2011 11:51 AM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Dear Knights, A lot of the criticism seems to miss the point :-) Part of the aim of the Book is to bring in new users, most of us here already know what we're doing. And M$-Windows dominates the marketplace for

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
Hi Pablo, On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 05:30:42 -0600, Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de wrote: I'd use TeXworks as the editor So would I, except that TeXWorks is not as rich in the features I'd like, nor does it handle arabic-script as well as needed. Believe me, I've looked at just about every option

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 06:38:42 -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد isha...@colostate.edu wrote: The functionality I can extract from Npp gives a pedagogical advantage that's important for what I'm trying to achieve. For example, dbl-click a word and get a context-menu that allows you

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Martin Schröder
2011/8/15 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد isha...@colostate.edu: Believe me, I've looked at just about every option out there :-) I believe you. And I think the editor is a typical bikeshed. :-) https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Parkinson%27s_Law_of_Triviality I applaud your

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Are we both talking about http://code.google.com/p/texworks/ ? Because that's free (GPLv2) and runs on Windows, OSX and Linux. I guess Kip meant WinEdt. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
Hi Martin, On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 08:35:24 -0600, Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de wrote: 2011/8/15 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد isha...@colostate.edu: Believe me, I've looked at just about every option out there :-) I believe you. And I think the editor is a typical bikeshed. :-)

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Kip Warner
On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 08:42 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: Are we both talking about http://code.google.com/p/texworks/ ? Because that's free (GPLv2) and runs on Windows, OSX and Linux. Best Martin Hey Martin. I meant WinEdt. Sorry for the ambiguity. -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Kip Warner
On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 09:20 +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote: I, for one, am not willing to start wine to run something as basic as a text editor. My sentiments precisely. -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail preferred http://www.thevertigo.com signature.asc

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Kip Warner
On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 09:20 +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: *If* the linux user happens to have 150 bucks and thinks it's a good idea to give that to Microsoft. No thanks. It's of course way too early to say anything about a project that I haven't seen a single line of, but tying it to an

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Kip Warner
On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 03:51 -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: And M$-Windows dominates the marketplace for better or for worse. Hey Idris. I think what the folks here are saying is that that's not necessarily true - for ConTeXt. -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
Hi Kip, On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:43:40 -0600, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote: And M$-Windows dominates the marketplace for better or for worse. Hey Idris. I think what the folks here are saying is that that's not necessarily true - for ConTeXt. Yes!! That's _exactly_ the challenge! My

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Kip Warner
On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 13:16 -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Yes!! That's _exactly_ the challenge! My vision is for ConTeXt to break out of the shell! Best of luck to you. We all look forward to reading the book when done. =) -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-08 Thread Jan Kraljič
OK, I see there is interest in users for book. What is Hans saying on this idea? I belive printing and selling wont be such a problem. I think about 1000 copies can be sold. Firstly we must prepare the book. If there is interest, i'll push this idea forward. So first step, What is not correct

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-08 Thread Andrea Valle
So first step, What is not correct written in pdf (http:// www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf)? All suggestion welcomed!! And all suggestion what should be, is missing? (I like the idea of a book.) IMHO one should start from scratch, i.e. from defining a new document structure.

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-06 Thread Jan Kraljič
Hello, i think it would be great to have some basic documentation published. My idea is to create Basic ConTeXt guide with start documentation for new user. This is what should be in: 1. Chapter: What is ConTeXt, what it included, which are basic modules, what is needed to start with Context,

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-06 Thread PChot
On Feb 6, 2008 10:37 AM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Kraljič wrote: Hello, i think it would be great to have some basic documentation published. http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/ms-cb-en.pdf (screen ) http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-06 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Jan Kraljič wrote: Hello, i think it would be great to have some basic documentation published. http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/ms-cb-en.pdf (screen ) http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf (paper ) Is not what you had in mind? Best wishes, Taco

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-06 Thread Gour
PChot == PChot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PChot I believe that no one would print this on printer. So I wonder if PChot there would be interest for published book? I'd buy a book for sure, but in the meantime printed the above stuff in local copy-shop and put in spiral binding ;) Sincerely,

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-06 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi all, Indeed the documents mentioned by Taco are great, but some time ago there was a discussion on the list about an update of those manuals (dating from 1999, according to the colofon) and about how we users can contribute to the job by finding the possible bugs, errors, misprints,

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-06 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Otared Kavian wrote: Now in my opinion the idea of having a book is a good one: for instance many How about distributing the ConTeXt manuals from Lulu or someother self publishing website. I think that the eplain manual is distributed this way. Aditya

[NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-04 Thread Matija Šuklje
Hullo, I've been wondering ...does anyone know of any good (printed) book to learn ConTeXt? Cheers, Matija -- gsm: +386 41 849 552 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://matija.suklje.name aim: hookofsilver icq: 110183360 jabber/g-talk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] yahoo:

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-04 Thread Santy, Michael
We would also be really interested in such a book (even if it was a bit pricey). Cheers, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Matija Suklje Sent: Mon 2/4/2008 9:42 AM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book Dne ponedeljek 4

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-04 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
I've been wondering ...does anyone know of any good (printed) book to learn ConTeXt? The ConTeXt book ... it has been a bit of a Holy Grail for quite a while, and it looks like it will be some more time until it is found. The reason why there is no comprehensive book yet is not clear to

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-04 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne ponedeljek 4. februarja 2008 je Yue Wang napisal(a): cont-eni.pdf, the context manual from pragma ade, i think. but it is quite outdated. I think the context development team should update the manual whenever a new feature is stable, but these people are working non-stop seeking for new