[NTG-context] natural table oddities
[This mail sat in my drafts folder for days; wanted to research more first, well…] Am 28.03.23 um 02:19 schrieb Bruce Horrocks: If you're asking for comments with a view to making changes then... I can’t make the changes myself, only suggest them to Hans. On 27 Mar 2023, at 15:03, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: * If I format a column, e.g. \setupTABLE[c][-1][color=red], body and foot are formatted, but not the same column in header. I couldn’t find how to format columns in header. If you disregard the Wiki page instructions to use \bTH...\eTH then you can format the header using: \bTD ... \eTD but I'm not sure what the consequences might be, if any. You lose the default bold heading so maybe that's all /bTH.../eTH is adding? Yes, I also found that out – either I sent an incomplete email, or I forgot to add my later “research”. 樂 TH (table header, not Taco or Tomáš ) adds a separation between header and body cells, but setting up "header" affects both TD and TH within TABLEhead. It would be nice to have a way of specifying the header explicitly. My suggestion would be to have: - \setupTABLE[r][head][...] affect just the header - \setupTABLE[r][next][...] affect the new page header - \setupTABLE[r][first|last|body][...] affect the first, or last, or only the body rows (i.e. not the header or footer) - \setupTABLE[r][foot][...] affect just the footer [r][last] (and [r][-1]) would represent the last body row (but not the footer row if one has been requested). I agree. ## Formatting * maxwidth doesn’t seem to have an effect, neither on the whole table nor on a column. * textwidth works only for the whole table. * width gets stretched if option=stretch; i.e. I can’t fix the width of single cells or columns. For me, \setupTABLE [c] [1] [width=3cm] fixes the width of column 1 and forces long text to wrap. But the width of a column is not fixed if you set option=stretch, then *all* columns are stretched, not only the undefined. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] natural table oddities
If you're asking for comments with a view to making changes then... > On 27 Mar 2023, at 15:03, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context > wrote: > > I would be happy about some answers/comments. > Hraban > > Am 13.03.23 um 23:26 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: >> Working on the documentation for “natural tables” in my book I stumbled upon >> a few oddities/problems: >> ## Addressing cells: >> * There’s \setupTABLE[header], but not "footer" (or "section"); since we >> have TABLEhead and TABLEfoot, IMO "head" and "foot" would make sense. I'd be happy with that, especially as there is already headstyle and headcolor. >> * Row 1 is the first row of TABLEbody. I couldn’t find how to address the >> first line of TABLEbody. >> * If I format a column, e.g. \setupTABLE[c][-1][color=red], body and foot >> are formatted, but not the same column in header. I couldn’t find how to >> format columns in header. If you disregard the Wiki page instructions to use \bTH...\eTH then you can format the header using: \bTABLEhead \bTR \bTH Column 1 \eTH \bTD[color=blue] Column 2 \eTD \eTR \eTABLEhead but I'm not sure what the consequences might be, if any. You lose the default bold heading so maybe that's all /bTH.../eTH is adding? It would be nice to have a way of specifying the header explicitly. My suggestion would be to have: - \setupTABLE[r][head][...] affect just the header - \setupTABLE[r][next][...] affect the new page header - \setupTABLE[r][first|last|body][...] affect the first, or last, or only the body rows (i.e. not the header or footer) - \setupTABLE[r][foot][...] affect just the footer [r][last] (and [r][-1]) would represent the last body row (but not the footer row if one has been requested). Extending to the formatting of header/footer/next etc columns is not quite so neat as an extra parameter is required, e.g. [c][][head][...] to reference column n in the header. For consistency the syntax [c][][body][...] could be an option. >> * I don’t understand the addressing options "start" and "one". Me neither. :) >> ## Formatting >> * maxwidth doesn’t seem to have an effect, neither on the whole table nor on >> a column. >> * textwidth works only for the whole table. >> * width gets stretched if option=stretch; i.e. I can’t fix the width of >> single cells or columns. For me, \setupTABLE [c] [1] [width=3cm] fixes the width of column 1 and forces long text to wrap. I'm not sure what your \textwidth comment relates to because \setupTABLE [c] [1] [width=.2\textwidth] works as expected for me. >> ## Page breaking >> * What’s the difference between split=repeat and header=repeat ? \setupTABLE [split=repeat] % works as expected for me \setupTABLE [header=repeat] % doesn't work for me >> I’d like to know if there are misunderstandings / if the behavior is >> intentional. — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] natural table oddities
I would be happy about some answers/comments. Hraban Am 13.03.23 um 23:26 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Working on the documentation for “natural tables” in my book I stumbled upon a few oddities/problems: ## Addressing cells: * There’s \setupTABLE[header], but not "footer" (or "section"); since we have TABLEhead and TABLEfoot, IMO "head" and "foot" would make sense. * Row 1 is the first row of TABLEbody. I couldn’t find how to address the first line of TABLEbody. * If I format a column, e.g. \setupTABLE[c][-1][color=red], body and foot are formatted, but not the same column in header. I couldn’t find how to format columns in header. * I don’t understand the addressing options "start" and "one". ## Formatting * maxwidth doesn’t seem to have an effect, neither on the whole table nor on a column. * textwidth works only for the whole table. * width gets stretched if option=stretch; i.e. I can’t fix the width of single cells or columns. ## Page breaking * What’s the difference between split=repeat and header=repeat ? I’d like to know if there are misunderstandings / if the behavior is intentional. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] natural table oddities
Working on the documentation for “natural tables” I stumbled upon a few oddities/problems. I’d like to know if there are misunderstandings on my part or if the behavior is intentional. BTW enattab.pdf is missing in the LMTX distribution. ## Options * before/after/inbetween values don’t appear anywhere. * spaceinbetween should insert between rows, but nothing happens. * splitoffset doesn’t seem to change anything. * What’s samepage for? ## Addressing cells * It’s not possible to address single cells with \setupTABLE, or is it? * There’s \setupTABLE[header], but not "footer" (or "section"); since we have TABLEhead and TABLEfoot, IMO "head" and "foot" would make sense. * Row 1 is the first row of TABLEbody. I couldn’t find how to address the first line of TABLEbody. * Is it possible, and how, to use odd/even only for the body? * If I format a column, e.g. \setupTABLE[c][-1][color=red], body and foot are formatted, but not the same column in header. (I found out, if I use TD instead of TH in the header, it works.) * I don’t understand the addressing options "start" and "one". ## Formatting * maxwidth doesn’t seem to have an effect, neither on the whole table nor on a column. * textwidth works only for the whole table. * width gets stretched if option=stretch; i.e. you can’t fix the width of single cells or columns. ## Page breaking * What’s the difference between [split=repeat] and [split=yes,header=repeat], i.e. which sense makes the header option)? * Is there an option to repeat the footer (as the last line of each page)? (I’d imagine to use it in an invoice or similar calculation for a subtotal – that would imply some more magic…) Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
