[NTG-context] Re: \starttable questions

2024-01-26 Thread Jim
...]; so all options for \framed[...] work for > Natural Tables. Aditya thanks very much for that information. I still appreciate the conciseness of the TaBlE macros (and thus \starttable ... \endtable), but I also appreciate the power of the TABLE

[NTG-context] Re: \starttable questions

2024-01-26 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, Jim wrote: > The nice thing about your setup above is that it is nice and structured. > But if a table calls for some row, column or cell to be treated > differently, I guess I am in for some more reading. You can do: \setupTABLE[2][3] to select the formatting for row 3 and

[NTG-context] Re: \starttable questions

2024-01-25 Thread vm via ntg-context
On 26/01/2024 01:52, Jim wrote: I won't argue with you about readability of tables, but if I am typesetting something for someone and they want it a certain way, I don't want to get into an argument about it with them either. :-) It all depends on the level of ignorance of your client.

[NTG-context] Re: \starttable questions

2024-01-25 Thread Jim
here could help me with these three things: >>> > For a long time I have been using Wichura's TaBle macros (i.e., what one >>> > gets with >>> > \input table >>> > in plain TeX) and would like to use what appears to be ConTeXt'

[NTG-context] Re: \starttable questions

2024-01-25 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, Jim wrote: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 17:30 (+0100), Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > > I haven't looked at starttable in well over a decade, but I did document > > some of it: > > > https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb28-3/tb90mahajan.pdf >

[NTG-context] Re: \starttable questions

2024-01-25 Thread Jim
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 17:30 (+0100), Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, Jim wrote: >> In a recent answer on this list, Mikael helped someone by pointing out the >> \HF[...] command. The \HF command is not listed in the \starttable wiki >> page. >> Q2: I

[NTG-context] Re: \starttable questions

2024-01-25 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
one gets with \input table in plain TeX) and would like to use what appears to be ConTeXt's version of those (i.e., what one gets with \starttable ... \stoptable). However, https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/starttable says The environment \starttable ... \stoptable is and (sic) old

[NTG-context] Re: \starttable questions

2024-01-25 Thread Jim
hat one >> gets with >> \input table >> in plain TeX) and would like to use what appears to be ConTeXt's version of >> those (i.e., what one gets with \starttable ... \stoptable). >> However, https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/starttable says >> The environment \start

[NTG-context] Re: \starttable questions

2024-01-25 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, Jim wrote: > In a recent answer on this list, Mikael helped someone by pointing out the > \HF[...] command. The \HF command is not listed in the \starttable wiki page. > > Q2: Is \HF[] documented anywhere? If so, can someone point me to that/those >

[NTG-context] Re: \starttable questions

2024-01-25 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
(i.e., what one gets with \starttable ... \stoptable). However, https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/starttable says The environment \starttable ... \stoptable is and (sic) old and nearly obsolete way to handle tabular material Q1: are there plans to remove \starttable

[NTG-context] \starttable questions

2024-01-25 Thread Jim
Hi, I was wondering if anyone here could help me with these three things: For a long time I have been using Wichura's TaBle macros (i.e., what one gets with \input table in plain TeX) and would like to use what appears to be ConTeXt's version of those (i.e., what one gets with \starttable

[NTG-context] \starttable ... \stoptable padding

2013-02-07 Thread Troy Henderson
How do I adjust the margin/padding of \starttable ... \stoptable? In particular, can I make cells immediately next to one another without any padding? Troy Henderson ___ If your question is of interest to others

Re: [NTG-context] Error with \placetable ... \starttable

2011-01-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Khaled Hosny wrote: Looks like \stattable ... \stoptable no longer do grouping, the following is broken unless \stattable ... \stoptable is grouped. \starttext \placetable[here,nonumber]{foo} \starttable[|r|r|] \NC foo \NC bar \AR \stoptable \stoptext This is still

[NTG-context] Error with \placetable ... \starttable

2011-01-05 Thread Khaled Hosny
Looks like \stattable ... \stoptable no longer do grouping, the following is broken unless \stattable ... \stoptable is grouped. \starttext \placetable[here,nonumber]{foo} \starttable[|r|r|] \NC foo \NC bar \AR \stoptable \stoptext Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member

Re: [NTG-context] \starttable ... \stoptable part II

2010-12-02 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wednesday 24 November 2010 14:57:36 Hans Hagen wrote: On 24-11-2010 2:54, Herbert Voss wrote: works with mkii, but not with mkiv example is from the documentation: \starttext \starttable[|l|c|c|] \DC\DL[2] \DR \NC\VL Mickey \VL Goofy \VL\SR

Re: [NTG-context] \starttable ... \stoptable III

2010-11-25 Thread Hans Hagen
On 24-11-2010 7:20, Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Wednesday 24 November 2010 19:06:19 Hans Hagen wrote: ok, thanks for testing it ... I'm stripping that old code so bugs can creep in; I'm also considering removing the CL and such \CL[color] % colored line \BL[number_cells] % grey background (BL =

Re: [NTG-context] \starttable ... \stoptable III

2010-11-25 Thread Alan BRASLAU
if tabulate is indeed to replace table and tables, perhaps they should be eliminated. For backward compatibility, perhaps starttable and starttables could be synonymes for starttabulate? Or perhaps I am missing something. Alan

Re: [NTG-context] \starttable ... \stoptable III

2010-11-25 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 25.11.2010 um 11:16 schrieb Alan BRASLAU: So if tabulate is indeed to replace table and tables, perhaps they should be eliminated. For backward compatibility, perhaps starttable and starttables could be synonymes for starttabulate? Or perhaps I am missing something. Tables has different

Re: [NTG-context] \starttable ... \stoptable III

2010-11-25 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thursday 25 November 2010 13:16:38 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 25.11.2010 um 11:16 schrieb Alan BRASLAU: So if tabulate is indeed to replace table and tables, perhaps they should be eliminated. For backward compatibility, perhaps starttable and starttables could be synonymes

[NTG-context] \starttable ... \stoptable

2010-11-24 Thread Herbert Voss
work ? \starttext \starttable[|l|r|]\HL \NC \bf Spalte 1 \NC \bf Spalte 2 \NC \FR \HL% works %\NC \em Spalte 1 \NC \em Spalte 2 \NC \FR \HL % didn't work \NC $alfa$ \NC $beta$ \NC \MR \NC Links\NC Rechts \NC \LR \HL \stoptable \stoptext Herbert

[NTG-context] \starttable ... \stoptable part II

2010-11-24 Thread Herbert Voss
works with mkii, but not with mkiv example is from the documentation: \starttext \starttable[|l|c|c|] \DC\DL[2] \DR \NC\VL Mickey \VL Goofy \VL\SR \HL \VL Donald \VL $\star$ \VL \VL\SR \HL \VL Pluto \VL \VL $\star$ \VL\SR \HL \stoptable

Re: [NTG-context] \starttable ... \stoptable

2010-11-24 Thread Hans Hagen
\em Spalte 2 \NC \FR \HL % didn't work ? \starttext \starttable[|l|r|]\HL \NC \bf Spalte 1 \NC \bf Spalte 2 \NC \FR \HL% works %\NC \em Spalte 1 \NC \em Spalte 2 \NC \FR \HL % didn't work \NC $alfa$ \NC $beta$ \NC \MR \NC Links\NC Rechts \NC \LR \HL

Re: [NTG-context] \starttable ... \stoptable

2010-11-24 Thread Herbert Voss
Am 24.11.2010 18:27, schrieb Hans Hagen: On 24-11-2010 12:20, Herbert Voss wrote: what is wrong with the \em? With \bf or {\em ...} it is fine \starttext \starttable[|l|r|]\HL \NC \bf Spalte 1 \NC \bf Spalte 2 \NC \FR \HL% works %\NC \em Spalte 1 \NC \em Spalte 2 \NC \FR \HL % didn't

[NTG-context] \starttable ... \stoptable III

2010-11-24 Thread Herbert Voss
\VL\SR \HL\NL[30pt] ? \starttext \starttable[|l|c|c|] \NC\VL Mickey \VL Goofy \VL\SR \HL \VL Donald \VL $\star$ \VL \VL\SR \HL\NL[30pt] \VL Pluto \VL \VL $\star$ \VL\SR \HL \stoptable \stoptext Herbert

Re: [NTG-context] \starttable ... \stoptable III

2010-11-24 Thread Hans Hagen
{#1}\simpleTableNL } l.5 ...\VL $\star$ \VL \VL\SR \HL\NL[30pt] ? \starttext \starttable[|l|c|c|] \NC\VL Mickey \VL Goofy \VL\SR \HL \VL Donald \VL $\star$ \VL \VL\SR \HL\NL[30pt] \VL Pluto \VL \VL $\star$ \VL\SR \HL \stoptable \stoptext ok, thanks for testing

Re: [NTG-context] \starttable ... \stoptable III

2010-11-24 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wednesday 24 November 2010 19:06:19 Hans Hagen wrote: ok, thanks for testing it ... I'm stripping that old code so bugs can creep in; I'm also considering removing the CL and such \CL[color] % colored line \BL[number_cells] % grey background (BL = ?) They are useful. What should replace

[NTG-context] starttabulate vs starttable

2007-10-04 Thread frantisek holop
hi there, please consider the following minimal examples: \starttext \starttable[|l|l|l|] \NC MidE \VL early ModE \VL ModE \NC \SR \HL \NC ge:s \VL gi:s \VL geese \NC \FR \NC na:m \VL ne:minimal \VL name \NC \MR \NC mi:s \VL mays \VL mice \NC \LR \stoptable \starttabulate[|l|l|l

Re: [NTG-context] starttabulate vs starttable

2007-10-04 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
the tabulate example is basicly the same without the vertical lines, which it seems like it can't do, i get an ! Undefined control sequence. I really don't know much about tabular material in ConTeXt, but from the very first line of http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tabulate I would assume that

Re: [NTG-context] starttabulate vs starttable

2007-10-04 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, frantisek holop wrote: hi there, please consider the following minimal examples: \starttext \starttable[|l|l|l|] \NC MidE \VL early ModE \VL ModE \NC \SR \HL \NC ge:s \VL gi:s \VL geese \NC \FR \NC na:m \VL ne:minimal \VL name \NC \MR \NC mi:s \VL

Re: [NTG-context] starttabulate vs starttable

2007-10-04 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: the tabulate example is basicly the same without the vertical lines, which it seems like it can't do, i get an ! Undefined control sequence. I really don't know much about tabular material in ConTeXt, but from the very first line of

Re: [NTG-context] starttabulate vs starttable

2007-10-04 Thread Aditya Mahajan
\starttable[s(1em)o0|l|l|l|] % And I thought that regex were hard to read :) \NC MidE \NC early ModE \NC ModE \NC \AR \HL \NC ge:s \NC gi:s \NC geese \NC \AR \NC na:m \NC ne:minimal \NC name \NC \AR \NC mi:s \NC mays \NC mice \NC \AR \stoptable

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \starttable \stoptable and some math

2007-08-30 Thread WN
Compiles fine here, using the old I know it compiles, that is not the problem. But look closely at the output, in the starttable/stoptable the \oiint is ''ignored but in the startformula/stopformula it is shown. So the starttable/stoptable is doing something , what I don't know

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \starttable \stoptable and some math

2007-08-30 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, WN wrote: Compiles fine here, using the old I know it compiles, that is not the problem. But look closely at the output, in the starttable/stoptable the \oiint is ''ignored but in the startformula/stopformula it is shown. So the starttable/stoptable is doing

[NTG-context] problem with starttable and subscript

2005-12-28 Thread Peter Münster
Hello, the problem with the following example is, that the last X touches the line. \starttext \starttable[|p(2em)|] \NC $X^X$ $X_X^-$ \NC\AR \HL \stoptable \stoptext TIA for any help! Greetings, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ ntg-context

Re: [NTG-context] \starttable...\stoptable

2003-09-30 Thread Willi Egger
Bernd wrote: Hi, is there a function like cline{1-2} in LaTeX to produce a frame around a special cell? thanks This environment has colorsupport. I doubt that the line thickness can be influenced for indidual cells. I suggest that you have a look into the bTABLE -- eTABLE environment,