Re: [NTG-context] The ConTeXt Companion

2007-04-14 Thread Patrick Gundlach
[...] Now, if we had The ConTeXt Companion ... ... ConTeXt would probably stabilize, which IMHO is not a good thing. One thing I really love ConTeXt for is the speed new techniques are adopted (pdf features, luatex,...) One day we might have a ConTeXt MKII book for those who are afraid of

[NTG-context] ConTeXt versioning model critique

2007-04-14 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Dear Patrtic, ... ConTeXt would probably stabilize, which IMHO is not a good thing. One thing I really love ConTeXt for is the speed new techniques are adopted (pdf features, luatex,...) One day we might have a ConTeXt MKII book for those who are afraid of swithing to pdftex2. ConTeXt should

[NTG-context] Some progress with XeTeX

2007-04-14 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello, I have some progress with XeTeX already (with the version included in TeXLive distribution). 1a) Including external graphics really requires ImageMagic to be installed. 1b) PDF pictures refuse to be inserted for unknown reason but PNGs are handled fine. 2) To use Windows encoding such

Re: [NTG-context] No way to use XeTeX

2007-04-14 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello Oliver, Thank you very much. You encouraged me to do some more tests and finally I discovered something useful. The cow.pdf from context examples runs smoothly. My .pdf was saved in Adobe Acrobat 8 Pro and this turns out the main cause. Saving with older versions compatibility and

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt versioning model critique

2007-04-14 Thread Ulf Martin
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky schrieb: [...] My experience of using open-source products (I'm best familiar with Moodle) suggest that there should be overlapping cycles in development: 1. Allocate new version number and start implementing new features. Many things are broken at the moment and the

Re: [NTG-context] The ConTeXt Companion

2007-04-14 Thread Ulf Martin
Patrick Gundlach schrieb: Now, if we had The ConTeXt Companion ... ... ConTeXt would probably stabilize, which IMHO is not a good thing. One thing I really love ConTeXt for is the speed new techniques are adopted (pdf features, luatex,...) One day we might have a ConTeXt MKII book for those

Re: [NTG-context] The ConTeXt Companion

2007-04-14 Thread Andrea Valle
With ConTeXt there is, of course, the excursion (equiv. to (1)) and the manual (2), but many important issues (the phantastic XML processing capabilities, bibliography stuff, typography, font management,...) are not quite complete or covered elsewhere (i.e. situation 3). I totally agree.

Re: [NTG-context] The ConTeXt Companion

2007-04-14 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 02:58:11 -0600, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... ConTeXt would probably stabilize, which IMHO is not a good thing. One thing I really love ConTeXt for is the speed new techniques are adopted (pdf features, luatex,...) One day we might have a ConTeXt MKII

[NTG-context] Pagebreak only after stanzas

2007-04-14 Thread Bert Trüger
Hi, i am a fresh convert to Context from Latex and deeply impressed by it's ability to set multiple pages on one page, even doublesided ones. For setting a collection of poems I use \obeylines and \smallskip to arrange them on the page. Pagebreaks should only be possible between stanzas at the

Re: [NTG-context] The ConTeXt Companion

2007-04-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 02:58:11 -0600, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... ConTeXt would probably stabilize, which IMHO is not a good thing. One thing I really love ConTeXt for is the speed new techniques are adopted (pdf features, luatex,...) One day

Re: [NTG-context] The ConTeXt Companion

2007-04-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Ulf Martin wrote: With ConTeXt there is, of course, the excursion (equiv. to (1)) and the manual (2), but many important issues (the phantastic XML processing capabilities, bibliography stuff, typography, font management,...) are not quite complete or covered elsewhere (i.e. situation 3).

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt versioning model critique

2007-04-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Ulf Martin wrote: I wonder how people (esp. at Pragma) currently deal with this. What happens if you have a ConTeXt doc from say 1997 that compiles into the resp. PDF with some ConTeXt version from that time but not today anymore? Which ConTeXt versions does one have to keep in order to be

Re: [NTG-context] The ConTeXt Companion

2007-04-14 Thread luigi scarso
book for those who only want to use the dvi format? hey, it's not that bad ... After all it's DeVice Independent. Maybe today it sounds better if we say 'output format independant' ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt versioning model critique

2007-04-14 Thread luigi scarso
On 4/14/07, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ulf Martin wrote: I wonder how people (esp. at Pragma) currently deal with this. for projects where we use relatively new features (which evolve) we use frozen trees; Confirm One tree of 2002 (still-crazy-after-all-these-years). Another of 2004.

Re: [NTG-context] Pagebreak only after stanzas

2007-04-14 Thread luigi scarso
On 4/14/07, Bert Trüger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i am a fresh convert to Context from Latex and deeply impressed by it's ability to set multiple pages on one page, even doublesided ones. For setting a collection of poems I use \obeylines and \smallskip to arrange them on the page.

Re: [NTG-context] Pagebreak only after stanzas

2007-04-14 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Bert Trüger wrote: Hi, i am a fresh convert to Context from Latex and deeply impressed by it's ability to set multiple pages on one page, even doublesided ones. For setting a collection of poems I use \obeylines and \smallskip to arrange them on the page. Pagebreaks

[NTG-context] Hanging punctuation is impressive

2007-04-14 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello, I've just read a about hanging punctuation in Hans' Typographic Programming manual. It is very impressive; now I understand one more cause why Word documents look so ugly. :) Unfortunatelly, I cannot try those examples by myself, since I run TeXLive2007 that don't have Palatino font

Re: [NTG-context] Hanging punctuation is impressive

2007-04-14 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hello, I've just read a about hanging punctuation in Hans' Typographic Programming manual. It is very impressive; now I understand one more cause why Word documents look so ugly. :) Unfortunatelly, I cannot try those examples by myself,

[NTG-context] texexec+mpost cmr10 vs CMR10 trouble using dvips backend

2007-04-14 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
A font-embedding issue puzzles me. First I make a metapost figure that uses plain tex for the label, so it uses cmr10. Then I include it in a context document to get a .ps file. The problem is that the label shows up in Courier (which ghostscript uses when it cannot find the font, I think).

Re: [NTG-context] texexec+mpost cmr10 vs CMR10 trouble using dvips backend

2007-04-14 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: A font-embedding issue puzzles me. First I make a metapost figure that uses plain tex for the label, so it uses cmr10. Then I include it in a context document to get a .ps file. The problem is that the label shows up in Courier (which ghostscript