Re: [NTG-context] Error: attempt to index a nil value

2021-10-13 Thread Hans Åberg via ntg-context

> On 13 Oct 2021, at 22:34, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> 
> On 10/13/2021 6:54 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
>>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 18:37, Hans Hagen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 10/13/2021 6:01 PM, Hans Åberg via ntg-context wrote:
 I was suggested a long ago to hack the file
  
 /usr/local/texlive/2021/texmf-dist/tex/generic/context/luatex/luatex-math.tex
 and use LuaTeX directly, now using Version 1.13.2 (TeX Live 2021), but I 
 get this error:
 (./luaotfload.sty
 (/usr/local/texlive/2021/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/ltluatex.tex))
 (./luatex-math-modified.tex[\directlua]:1: attempt to index a nil value 
 (global
 'arguments')
 stack traceback:
[\directlua]:1: in main chunk.
 l.132 }
 ? …
 It is from this segment in the modified luatex-math.tex:
 \ifdefined\directlua
\directlua {
if arguments["mtx:lucidabright"] then
tex.print("\string\\lucidabright")
else
tex.print("\string\\latinmodern")
end
}
 \fi
 Is there a workaround? —I may ditch this setup in favour of using 
 'context' directly, so it is not so important if there is no fix.
>>> I have no clue ..
>> Has not stuff been moved from LuaTeX to ConTeXt? —If so, I thought it might 
>> have something with that to do.
> 
> luatex is just a tex engine and context is a macro package where context mkiv 
> is geared for luatex; the context fontloader has a generic core so it can be 
> used in plain and for latex some write a wrapper around that font hndler for 
> latex that evolved over years
> 
> i have no clue why you get "(./luaotfload.sty ..." but it is not context that 
> you run there (and i can't imagine some plain format loading it either)

I think that LaTeX extracted some parts out of ConTeXt for use with LuaTeX only 
for font loading, and that is why I have it, not remembering the details. I 
think I saw that LuaTeX a few years had more font loading stuff, but that was 
moved to ConTeXt, but you show know better, as it would then would have been 
you did it. :-)

>>> it looks like you load a latex style so I suppose that 'arguments' is no 
>>> longer defined there (as it worked for you in the past).
>> It does not contain it; it a copy in the same directory that has never 
>> changed.
> 
> hm, but i have no clue what this "mtx:..." does

It is line 97-105 in
/usr/local/texlive/2021/texmf-dist/tex/generic/context/luatex/luatex-math.tex

I have not done anything to that part, just adding some support for the STIX 
font.

>>> Maybe 'arguments' lives in some namespace?
>>> 
>>> \directlua {for k, v in pairs(_G) do print(k,v) end}
>>> 
>>> This will show you what is in the global namespace, maybe 'arg'?
>> If I put this code in right before the \ifdefined\directlua it prints a lot 
>> of "nil".
> 
> print(k,v) should print two values, key and value

I may have not used it right, just copying it in right above line 97.


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Re: [NTG-context] Error: attempt to index a nil value

2021-10-13 Thread Hans Åberg via ntg-context

> On 13 Oct 2021, at 22:28, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> 
> On 10/13/2021 7:02 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
>>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 18:37, Hans Hagen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 10/13/2021 6:01 PM, Hans Åberg via ntg-context wrote:
 
 … —I may ditch this setup in favour of using 'context' directly, so it is 
 not so important if there is no fix.
>>> I have no clue ..
>> I made this as experiment to make a texinfo file along with a manual 
>> generating a PDF to display math properly, which the Info format cannot do.
> 
> I'm not familiar with texinfo but in the context distribution are some 
> luatex-* files that show how to load the generic context font loader (in 
> plain tex). One can make a format with:
> 
>  mtxrun --script plain --make
> 
> an dprocess a plain file with:
> 
>  mtxrun --script plain foo.tex
> 
> I suppose that texinfo is close to plain so doable too.
> 
>> However, it has been decided that the Info format should be extended with 
>> HTML, probably HTML5 then. So one might generate that directly with ConTeXt. 
>> —This was the reason for the other post.
> ok

I first made a texinfo file, and then translated it into a context file, and it 
turns out that the latter much simpler to create indexes and such: in the 
texinfo format, one has to keep track of them in various parts because of TeX's 
limited ability to do such things. In addition, GNU has policy of enforcing 
original TeX with limited Unicode support, making it suitable for simpler types 
of manuals only. There is no requirement to use this format or produce 'info' 
documentation, but it would be nice to produce an HTML. Personally, I prefer 
the PDF format.

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Re: [NTG-context] Error: attempt to index a nil value

2021-10-13 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 10/13/2021 6:54 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:



On 13 Oct 2021, at 18:37, Hans Hagen  wrote:

On 10/13/2021 6:01 PM, Hans Åberg via ntg-context wrote:

I was suggested a long ago to hack the file
  /usr/local/texlive/2021/texmf-dist/tex/generic/context/luatex/luatex-math.tex
and use LuaTeX directly, now using Version 1.13.2 (TeX Live 2021), but I get 
this error:
(./luaotfload.sty
(/usr/local/texlive/2021/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/ltluatex.tex))
(./luatex-math-modified.tex[\directlua]:1: attempt to index a nil value (global
'arguments')
stack traceback:
[\directlua]:1: in main chunk.
l.132 }
? …
It is from this segment in the modified luatex-math.tex:
\ifdefined\directlua
\directlua {
if arguments["mtx:lucidabright"] then
tex.print("\string\\lucidabright")
else
tex.print("\string\\latinmodern")
end
}
\fi
Is there a workaround? —I may ditch this setup in favour of using 'context' 
directly, so it is not so important if there is no fix.

I have no clue ..


Has not stuff been moved from LuaTeX to ConTeXt? —If so, I thought it might 
have something with that to do.


luatex is just a tex engine and context is a macro package where context 
mkiv is geared for luatex; the context fontloader has a generic core so 
it can be used in plain and for latex some write a wrapper around that 
font hndler for latex that evolved over years


i have no clue why you get "(./luaotfload.sty ..." but it is not context 
that you run there (and i can't imagine some plain format loading it 
either)



it looks like you load a latex style so I suppose that 'arguments' is no longer 
defined there (as it worked for you in the past).


It does not contain it; it a copy in the same directory that has never changed.


hm, but i have no clue what this "mtx:..." does


Maybe 'arguments' lives in some namespace?

\directlua {for k, v in pairs(_G) do print(k,v) end}

This will show you what is in the global namespace, maybe 'arg'?


If I put this code in right before the \ifdefined\directlua it prints a lot of 
"nil".


print(k,v) should print two values, key and value

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Error: attempt to index a nil value

2021-10-13 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 10/13/2021 7:02 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:



On 13 Oct 2021, at 18:37, Hans Hagen  wrote:

On 10/13/2021 6:01 PM, Hans Åberg via ntg-context wrote:


… —I may ditch this setup in favour of using 'context' directly, so it is not 
so important if there is no fix.

I have no clue ..


I made this as experiment to make a texinfo file along with a manual generating 
a PDF to display math properly, which the Info format cannot do.


I'm not familiar with texinfo but in the context distribution are some 
luatex-* files that show how to load the generic context font loader (in 
plain tex). One can make a format with:


  mtxrun --script plain --make

an dprocess a plain file with:

  mtxrun --script plain foo.tex

I suppose that texinfo is close to plain so doable too.


However, it has been decided that the Info format should be extended with HTML, 
probably HTML5 then. So one might generate that directly with ConTeXt. —This 
was the reason for the other post.

ok

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Error: attempt to index a nil value

2021-10-13 Thread Hans Åberg via ntg-context

> On 13 Oct 2021, at 18:37, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> 
> On 10/13/2021 6:01 PM, Hans Åberg via ntg-context wrote:
>> 
>> … —I may ditch this setup in favour of using 'context' directly, so it is 
>> not so important if there is no fix.
> I have no clue .. 

I made this as experiment to make a texinfo file along with a manual generating 
a PDF to display math properly, which the Info format cannot do.

However, it has been decided that the Info format should be extended with HTML, 
probably HTML5 then. So one might generate that directly with ConTeXt. —This 
was the reason for the other post.

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Re: [NTG-context] Error: attempt to index a nil value

2021-10-13 Thread Hans Åberg via ntg-context

> On 13 Oct 2021, at 18:37, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> 
> On 10/13/2021 6:01 PM, Hans Åberg via ntg-context wrote:
>> I was suggested a long ago to hack the file
>>  
>> /usr/local/texlive/2021/texmf-dist/tex/generic/context/luatex/luatex-math.tex
>> and use LuaTeX directly, now using Version 1.13.2 (TeX Live 2021), but I get 
>> this error:
>> (./luaotfload.sty
>> (/usr/local/texlive/2021/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/ltluatex.tex))
>> (./luatex-math-modified.tex[\directlua]:1: attempt to index a nil value 
>> (global
>> 'arguments')
>> stack traceback:
>>  [\directlua]:1: in main chunk.
>> l.132 }
>> ? …
>> It is from this segment in the modified luatex-math.tex:
>> \ifdefined\directlua
>>\directlua {
>>if arguments["mtx:lucidabright"] then
>>tex.print("\string\\lucidabright")
>>else
>>tex.print("\string\\latinmodern")
>>end
>>}
>> \fi
>> Is there a workaround? —I may ditch this setup in favour of using 'context' 
>> directly, so it is not so important if there is no fix.
> I have no clue ..

Has not stuff been moved from LuaTeX to ConTeXt? —If so, I thought it might 
have something with that to do.

> it looks like you load a latex style so I suppose that 'arguments' is no 
> longer defined there (as it worked for you in the past).

It does not contain it; it a copy in the same directory that has never changed.

> Maybe 'arguments' lives in some namespace?
> 
> \directlua {for k, v in pairs(_G) do print(k.v) end}
> 
> This will show you what is in the global namespace, maybe 'arg'?

If I put this code in right before the \ifdefined\directlua it prints a lot of 
"nil".


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Re: [NTG-context] Error: attempt to index a nil value

2021-10-13 Thread Hans Åberg via ntg-context
It results in the error

! Argument of \\ has an extra }.
 
\par 
 
}
l.132 }
 
?

> On 13 Oct 2021, at 18:26, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
>>  tex.print("\string\\latinmodern")
> 
> should be at least double backslashes: tex.print("\\string\\latinmodern") I 
> would think
> 
> met vriendelijke groet
> dr. Hans van der Meer

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Re: [NTG-context] Error: attempt to index a nil value

2021-10-13 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 10/13/2021 6:01 PM, Hans Åberg via ntg-context wrote:

I was suggested a long ago to hack the file
  /usr/local/texlive/2021/texmf-dist/tex/generic/context/luatex/luatex-math.tex
and use LuaTeX directly, now using Version 1.13.2 (TeX Live 2021), but I get 
this error:
(./luaotfload.sty
(/usr/local/texlive/2021/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/ltluatex.tex))
(./luatex-math-modified.tex[\directlua]:1: attempt to index a nil value (global
'arguments')
stack traceback:
[\directlua]:1: in main chunk.
l.132 }

? …


It is from this segment in the modified luatex-math.tex:

\ifdefined\directlua
\directlua {
if arguments["mtx:lucidabright"] then
tex.print("\string\\lucidabright")
else
tex.print("\string\\latinmodern")
end
}
\fi

Is there a workaround? —I may ditch this setup in favour of using 'context' 
directly, so it is not so important if there is no fix.
I have no clue .. it looks like you load a latex style so I suppose that 
'arguments' is no longer defined there (as it worked for you in the 
past). Maybe 'arguments' lives in some namespace?


 \directlua {for k, v in pairs(_G) do print(k.v) end}

This will show you what is in the global namespace, maybe 'arg'?

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Error: attempt to index a nil value

2021-10-13 Thread Hans van der Meer via ntg-context
>  tex.print("\string\\latinmodern")

should be at least double backslashes: tex.print("\\string\\latinmodern") I 
would think

met vriendelijke groet
dr. Hans van der Meer


> On 13 Oct 2021, at 18:01, Hans Åberg via ntg-context  
> wrote:
> 
> I was suggested a long ago to hack the file
> /usr/local/texlive/2021/texmf-dist/tex/generic/context/luatex/luatex-math.tex
> and use LuaTeX directly, now using Version 1.13.2 (TeX Live 2021), but I get 
> this error:
> (./luaotfload.sty
> (/usr/local/texlive/2021/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/ltluatex.tex))
> (./luatex-math-modified.tex[\directlua]:1: attempt to index a nil value 
> (global
> 'arguments')
> stack traceback:
>   [\directlua]:1: in main chunk.
> l.132 }
> 
> ? …
> 
> 
> It is from this segment in the modified luatex-math.tex:
> 
> \ifdefined\directlua
>   \directlua {
>   if arguments["mtx:lucidabright"] then
>   tex.print("\string\\lucidabright")
>   else
>   tex.print("\string\\latinmodern")
>   end
>   }
> \fi
> 
> Is there a workaround? —I may ditch this setup in favour of using 'context' 
> directly, so it is not so important if there is no fix.
> 
> 
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