Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to \cite with UPPERCASED author?
On 02/10/12 11:59, Wagner Macedo wrote: Is it possible to \cite with author in UPPERCASE without touch in my bib file? I couldn't find a tip about this, I already read Bib mod manual. I'm using MkIV. Short answer: yes, that's possible. Longer answer: bib mod manual, section 2.3, \setupcite. You can hook something like \bgroup\WORD and \egroup into the left= and right= keys. (Untested and no real explanation since you didn't provide an example.) Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to \cite with UPPERCASED author?
On 10 February 2012 08:23, Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.dewrote:
Longer answer: bib mod manual, section 2.3, \setupcite. You can hook
something like \bgroup\WORD and \egroup into the left= and right= keys.
It didn't solve, because when I have an author et al, results in AUTHOR
ET AL, that is not the expected.
(Untested and no real explanation since you didn't provide an example.)
Sorry, I really didn't think it was necessary. But with sample code in
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography_mkiv I can explain.
% -- % -- % -- % -- % -- %
\setupbibtex[database={sample},sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa]
\starttext
\cite[author][hh2010a] and
\cite[authoryear][hh2010a] and
\cite[authoryears][hh2010a]
\stoptext
% -- % -- % -- % -- % -- %
I expected that is typeset HAGEN and HAGEN (2010a) and (HAGEN, 2010a)
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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to \cite with UPPERCASED author?
On 02/10/2012 12:58 PM, Wagner Macedo wrote:
Longer answer: bib mod manual, section 2.3, \setupcite. You can hook
something like \bgroup\WORD and \egroup into the left= and right= keys.
It didn't solve, because when I have an author et al, results in
AUTHOR ET AL, that is not the expected.
You're very welcome! Yes, I can see that et al. would be capitalized
as well.
Sorry, I really didn't think it was necessary. But with sample code in
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography_mkiv I can explain.
% -- % -- % -- % -- % -- %
\setupbibtex[database={sample},sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa]
\starttext
\cite[author][hh2010a] and
\cite[authoryear][hh2010a] and
\cite[authoryears][hh2010a]
\stoptext
% -- % -- % -- % -- % -- %
I expected that is typeset HAGEN and HAGEN (2010a) and (HAGEN, 2010a)
I'm not sure I understand. Why did you expect that? This is not APA
style, AFAIK. You're trying to set up your own style, so you need to
customize, but there is no code for customization in your example.
There's also andtext and otherstext. Have you tried if you can use
those?
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to \cite with UPPERCASED author?
Ah, yes. I'm setuping my own style. As I'm not so good with TeX (if this could be in Lua, will be perfect), I'm using apa, that is the closest to my style. So, all right, I'll try to customize my style, that is the only good solution to this. Thanks by attention, Thomas. -- Wagner Macedo On 10 February 2012 09:40, Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.dewrote: You're trying to set up your own style, so you need to customize, but there is no code for customization in your example. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to \cite with UPPERCASED author?
On 02/10/2012 03:10 PM, Wagner Macedo wrote:
Ah, yes. I'm setuping my own style. As I'm not so good with TeX (if this
could be in Lua, will be perfect), I'm using apa, that is the closest to
my style.
So, all right, I'll try to customize my style, that is the only good
solution to this. Thanks by attention, Thomas.
OK, I had a second look. What you want may not be that easy to
accomplish with simple setup commands (at least, I didn't manage to make
it work). So I see two possibilities, one clean and difficult, the other
easier, but somewhat hackish:
1. Edit a local copy of cont-au.bst and insert a function that will make
the author name uppercase. bst is infamous for its incomprehensible
syntax, but it appears to be possible. this would be the proper way.
google is your friend here.
2. ConTeXt produces a .bbl file from which it retrieves the
bibliographical information. The authorname used in the \cite command is
captured in a key=value of the form
a={{Hagen}},
Write a simple lua script which will make the captured name uppercase
and write everything out to a new file. Then, in your preamble, replace
the \setupbibtex[database=...] line with
\usepublications[name.bbl]
So this is something you would do at the very end of the editing
process, when you're sure that all the references are in the bbl file.
It may also be possible to hook a lua function into the process when
ConTeXt typesets the value from the bbl, but that's beyond my knowledge,
Hans is the only one who knows the internals of the mkiv bib mechanism
well enough to say if/how this may work.
HTH
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to \cite with UPPERCASED author?
On 10 February 2012 12:33, Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.dewrote:
1. Edit a local copy of cont-au.bst and insert a function that will make
the author name uppercase. bst is infamous for its incomprehensible syntax,
but it appears to be possible. this would be the proper way. google is your
friend here.
Yes, very incomprehensible. And another thing, I couldn't find any
authoryear word inside bst files. I think it usefulness is only for
publications list.
2. ConTeXt produces a .bbl file from which it retrieves the
bibliographical information. The authorname used in the \cite command is
captured in a key=value of the form
a={{Hagen}},
Write a simple lua script which will make the captured name uppercase and
write everything out to a new file. Then, in your preamble, replace the
\setupbibtex[database=...] line with
\usepublications[name.bbl]
So this is something you would do at the very end of the editing process,
when you're sure that all the references are in the bbl file.
Thank you. It's the best solution to my problem. But I'll do a Python or
Bash script to do this, as I'm more used to those languages, and I'll add
as a target on my Makefile.
It may also be possible to hook a lua function into the process when
ConTeXt typesets the value from the bbl, but that's beyond my knowledge,
Hans is the only one who knows the internals of the mkiv bib mechanism well
enough to say if/how this may work.
I found something into bibl-bib.lua, and I tried to change but didn't
result in anything. So, it's a black box.
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