Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Hans Hagen
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. August 2022 14:31
> An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) ; mailing list for
> ConTeXt users
> Betreff: Re: AW: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between
> stanzas via tabulate
>
> On 8/30/2022 1:40 PM, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the updated version. So, that means the basic restriction
> > is that blanks will need to be inserted between rows, right? We cannot
> > have to two completely independent formatted poems, right? (For
> > reference, see the attached PNG. This was done with paragraphs, and
> > works as longs as this stays on a single page. One is one long stanza,
> > the other one consists of multiple smaller stanzas.)
> You need to be more prececise in defining what you want .. this example is not
> a parallel obe right? Just two columns.
>
Sorry for not being precise enough.
I'm not sure I understand. This example shows two poems side by side. Both are
totally different in structure. One has a heading, and consists of multiple
paragraphs. The other is just one long stanza. Until now, I've used tabulate
for these kind of sidebyside texts. Usually there are not poems, just regular
paragraphs, but with poems I've realized that blanks seem not be supported in
individual table cells.
Denis
\startbuffer[lines1]
\startlines[inbetween={\blank}]
this
is
a
poem
with
one
longer
stanza
\stoplines
\stopbuffer
\startbuffer[lines2]
\startlines[inbetween={\blank}]
this
is
a
poem
with
some
stanzas
here is
another one
and another one
\stoplines
\stopbuffer
\starttext
Just the buffers.
One:
\getbuffer[lines1]
Two:
\getbuffer[lines2]
Via paragraphs
\defineparagraphs[paraverse][n=2 ]
\setupparagraphs[paraverse][1][
width=.45\textwidth, distance=2em,
align={verytolerant,stretch}]
\startparaverse
\getbuffer[lines1]
\nextparaverse
\getbuffer[lines2]
\stopparaverse
Via tabulate
\starttabulate[|p|p|]
\NC \getbuffer[lines1]
\NC \getbuffer[lines2]
\NC\NR
\stoptabulate
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate
On 8/30/2022 1:40 PM, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote: Thanks for the updated version. So, that means the basic restriction is that blanks will need to be inserted between rows, right? We cannot have to two completely independent formatted poems, right? (For reference, see the attached PNG. This was done with paragraphs, and works as longs as this stays on a single page. One is one long stanza, the other one consists of multiple smaller stanzas.) You need to be more prececise in defining what you want .. this example is not a parallel obe right? Just two columns. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: ntg-context > mailto:ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl>> Im Auftrag > von Hans Hagen > via ntg-context > Gesendet: Montag, 29. August 2022 13:58 > An: ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> > Cc: Hans Hagen mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas > via tabulate > > On 8/29/2022 1:31 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: > >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > >> Von: Hans Hagen mailto:j.ha...@freedom.nl>> > >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. August 2022 10:41 > >> An: mailing list for ConTeXt users > >> mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> > >> Cc: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) > >> mailto:denis.ma...@unibe.ch>> > >> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between > >> stanzas via tabulate > >> > >> On 8/27/2022 11:25 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: > >>> Thanks, Wolfgang. That gives me a blank between the verses. However > >>> the > >> blank is rather huge and I don't see how I could make it smaller? Is > >> it possible to do this? > >> morning exercise attached (you can run the file) > >> > >> Hans > > > > Another, more general question on this: why is the function > poetry.sidebyside defined twice? If I understand correctly, depending on the > input one or the other will be used, but I don't see where that happens... > the first can be commented as it is the first simple variant > I see. Thanks for the updated version. So, that means the basic restriction is that blanks will need to be inserted between rows, right? We cannot have to two completely independent formatted poems, right? (For reference, see the attached PNG. This was done with paragraphs, and works as longs as this stays on a single page. One is one long stanza, the other one consists of multiple smaller stanzas.) Denis ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate
On 8/29/2022 1:31 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Hans Hagen
Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. August 2022 10:41
An: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Cc: Maier, Denis Christian (UB)
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas
via tabulate
On 8/27/2022 11:25 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:
Thanks, Wolfgang. That gives me a blank between the verses. However the
blank is rather huge and I don't see how I could make it smaller? Is it possible
to do this?
morning exercise attached (you can run the file)
Hans
Another, more general question on this: why is the function poetry.sidebyside
defined twice? If I understand correctly, depending on the input one or the
other will be used, but I don't see where that happens...
the first can be commented as it is the first simple variant
Hans
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-%D \module
%D [ file=m-poetry,
%Dversion=2022.08.28
%D title=\CONTEXT\ Extra Modules,
%D subtitle=Whatever comes up,
%D author=Hans Hagen,
%D date=\currentdate,
%D copyright={PRAGMA ADE \& \CONTEXT\ Development Team}]
%C
%C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
%C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
%C details.
% For Denis Maier (see mails to list end of August 2022)
\startluacode
local poetry = moduledata.poetry or { }
moduledata.poetry = poetry
-- function poetry.sidebyside(specification)
-- local first = string.splitlines(buffers.getcontent(specification.left))
-- local second =
string.splitlines(buffers.getcontent(specification.right))
-- local template = specification.template or "|||"
-- context.starttabulate { template }
-- for i=1,#first do
-- local f = first [i] or ""
-- local s = second[i] or ""
-- if f == "" and s == "" then
-- context.TB { "medium" }
-- else
-- context.NC() context(f)
-- context.NC() context(s)
-- context.NC() context.NR()
-- end
-- end
-- context.stoptabulate()
-- end
function poetry.sidebyside(specification)
local left= specification.left
local right = specification.right
local first = left and string.splitlines(buffers.getcontent(left )) or {
}
local second = right and string.splitlines(buffers.getcontent(right)) or {
}
if #first > 0 and #second == 0 then
for i=1,#first do
local t = string.split(first[i], "|")
first[i] = string.strip(t[1] or "")
second[i] = string.strip(t[2] or "")
end
end
local template = specification.template or "|||"
context.starttabulate { template }
local fi = 1
local si = 1
local n = #first > #second and #first or #second
local function flush(f,s)
context.NC() context(f)
context.NC() context(s)
context.NC() context.NR()
if f ~= "" then
fi = fi + 1
end
if s ~= "" then
si = si + 1
end
end
while fi <= n and si <= n do
local f = first [fi] or ""
local s = second[si] or ""
if f ~= "" and s ~= "" then
flush(f,s)
else
while true do
if f ~= "" or s ~= "" then
flush(f,s)
else
while f == "" do
fi = fi + 1
f = first [fi] or ""
end
while s == "" do
si = si + 1
s = second[si] or ""
end
break
end
f = first [fi] or ""
s = second[si] or ""
end
-- context.HL()
context.TB { "medium" }
end
end
context.stoptabulate()
end
interfaces.implement {
name = "poetrysidebyside",
protected = true,
public= true,
actions = poetry.sidebyside,
arguments = "hash",
}
\stopluacode
\continueifinputfile{m-poetry.mkxl}
\starttext
\starttext
\startbuffer[lines-1]
Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Hans Hagen > Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. August 2022 10:41 > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users > Cc: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas > via tabulate > > On 8/27/2022 11:25 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: > > Thanks, Wolfgang. That gives me a blank between the verses. However the > blank is rather huge and I don't see how I could make it smaller? Is it > possible > to do this? > morning exercise attached (you can run the file) > > Hans Another, more general question on this: why is the function poetry.sidebyside defined twice? If I understand correctly, depending on the input one or the other will be used, but I don't see where that happens... Best, Denis ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate
Thanks Hans, that's very nice indeed. Looks like I really need to dive into CLD. There seem to be so many possibilies... However, the major pitfall seems to be that this assumes stanzas of equal length (as it relies on \TB to produce the blanks), which does not apply to my situation. (Modfied version attached.) Do you see any way to support this kind of situation? Best, Denis > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Hans Hagen > Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. August 2022 10:41 > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users > Cc: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas > via tabulate > > On 8/27/2022 11:25 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: > > Thanks, Wolfgang. That gives me a blank between the verses. However the > blank is rather huge and I don't see how I could make it smaller? Is it > possible > to do this? > morning exercise attached (you can run the file) > > Hans > > - >Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > - m-poetry.mkxl Description: m-poetry.mkxl ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate
On 8/27/2022 11:25 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:
Thanks, Wolfgang. That gives me a blank between the verses. However the blank
is rather huge and I don't see how I could make it smaller? Is it possible to
do this?
morning exercise attached (you can run the file)
Hans
-
Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl
-%D \module
%D [ file=m-poetry,
%Dversion=2022.08.28
%D title=\CONTEXT\ Extra Modules,
%D subtitle=Whatever comes up,
%D author=Hans Hagen,
%D date=\currentdate,
%D copyright={PRAGMA ADE \& \CONTEXT\ Development Team}]
%C
%C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
%C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
%C details.
% For Denis Maier (see mails to list end of August 2022)
\startluacode
local poetry = moduledata.poetry or { }
moduledata.poetry = poetry
function poetry.sidebyside(specification)
local first = string.splitlines(buffers.getcontent(specification.left))
local second = string.splitlines(buffers.getcontent(specification.right))
local template = specification.template or "|||"
context.starttabulate { template }
for i=1,#first do
local f = first [i] or ""
local s = second[i] or ""
if f == "" and s == "" then
context.TB { "medium" }
else
context.NC() context(f)
context.NC() context(s)
context.NC() context.NR()
end
end
context.stoptabulate()
end
function poetry.sidebyside(specification)
local left= specification.left
local right = specification.right
local first = left and string.splitlines(buffers.getcontent(left )) or {
}
local second = right and string.splitlines(buffers.getcontent(right)) or {
}
if #first > 0 and #second == 0 then
for i=1,#first do
local t = string.split(first[i], "|")
first[i] = string.strip(t[1] or "")
second[i] = string.strip(t[2] or "")
end
end
local template = specification.template or "|||"
context.starttabulate { template }
for i=1,#first do
local f = first [i] or ""
local s = second[i] or ""
if f == "" and s == "" then
context.TB { "medium" }
else
context.NC() context(f)
context.NC() context(s)
context.NC() context.NR()
end
end
context.stoptabulate()
end
interfaces.implement {
name = "poetrysidebyside",
protected = true,
public= true,
actions = poetry.sidebyside,
arguments = "hash",
}
\stopluacode
\continueifinputfile{m-poetry.mkxl}
\starttext
\startbuffer[lines-1]
THIS
IS
A
POEM
WITH
TWO
STANZAS
\stopbuffer
\startbuffer[lines-2]
this
is
a
poem
with
two
stanzas
\stopbuffer
\startbuffer[lines-3]
this | THIS
is | IS
a| A
poem | POEM
|
with | WITH
two | TWO
stanzas | STANZAS
\stopbuffer
\ctxlua {
moduledata.poetry.sidebyside {
left = "lines-1",
right= "lines-2",
template = "|l|i2r|"
}
}
\ctxlua {
moduledata.poetry.sidebyside {
left = "lines-3",
template = "|r|il|"
}
}
\poetrysidebyside
[left=lines-3,
template={|r|il|}]
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate
Thanks, Wolfgang. That gives me a blank between the verses. However the blank
is rather huge and I don't see how I could make it smaller? Is it possible to
do this?
Denis
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Wolfgang
> Schuster via ntg-context
> Gesendet: Samstag, 27. August 2022 09:27
> An: mailing list for ConTeXt users
> Cc: Wolfgang Schuster
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas
> via tabulate
>
> Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 27.08.2022 um 09:17:
> > Thanks. I'll try that. But, iirc, these had some other drawbacks I'll
> > check
> if it works for my use case.
> >
> > Is there a way to have blanks in the tabulate?
>
> \startlines[inbetween={\dontleavehmode\crlf}]
> ...
>
> Wolfgang
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Henning
> Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
> Gesendet: Freitag, 26. August 2022 23:27
> An: Denis Maier via ntg-context
> Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas
> via tabulate
>
> Am 26.08.22 um 22:00 schrieb Denis Maier via ntg-context:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I need to typeset two poems side by side. Usually, I use the tabulate
> > environment for typesetting parallel texts. However, for poems this
> > does not quite work as tabulate does not seem to allow blanks between
> > the stanzas. See MWE below. Am I missing someting? Is there a better
> > way to achieve this?
>
> How about columnsets or paragraphs?
>
> \definecolumnset[Zwei][n=2]
> \startcolumnset[Zwei]
> \startlines
> Starlight, star bright,
> first star I see tonight;
> \stoplines
> \column
> \startlines
> I wish I may, I wish I might
> have the wish I wish tonight.
> \stoplines
> \stopcolumnset
>
>
> \defineparagraphs[Zwei][n=2]
> \setupparagraphs[Zwei][1][
>width=.45\textwidth, distance=2em,
>align={verytolerant,stretch}]
> % width of 2nd column is calculated automatically
>
> \startZwei
> ...
> \nextZwei
> ...
> \stopZwei
>
>
Ok, I've had a chance to look into this. Maybe I'm missing something, but
paragraphs cannot be split across pages. Is that correct? That's a bit of a
problem.
As for columnsets, they seem to change the output routine for the entire page.
Also not ideal in this case.
Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate
Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 27.08.2022 um 09:17:
Thanks. I'll try that. But, iirc, these had some other drawbacks I'll check
if it works for my use case.
Is there a way to have blanks in the tabulate?
\startlines[inbetween={\dontleavehmode\crlf}]
...
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate
Thanks. I'll try that. But, iirc, these had some other drawbacks I'll check
if it works for my use case.
Is there a way to have blanks in the tabulate?
Denis
Von: ntg-context im Auftrag von Henning Hraban
Ramm via ntg-context
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. August 2022 23:26:56
An: Denis Maier via ntg-context
Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas
via tabulate
Am 26.08.22 um 22:00 schrieb Denis Maier via ntg-context:
> Hi,
>
> I need to typeset two poems side by side. Usually, I use the tabulate
> environment for typesetting parallel texts. However, for poems this does
> not quite work as tabulate does not seem to allow blanks between the
> stanzas. See MWE below. Am I missing someting? Is there a better way to
> achieve this?
How about columnsets or paragraphs?
\definecolumnset[Zwei][n=2]
\startcolumnset[Zwei]
\startlines
Starlight, star bright,
first star I see tonight;
\stoplines
\column
\startlines
I wish I may, I wish I might
have the wish I wish tonight.
\stoplines
\stopcolumnset
\defineparagraphs[Zwei][n=2]
\setupparagraphs[Zwei][1][
width=.45\textwidth, distance=2em,
align={verytolerant,stretch}]
% width of 2nd column is calculated automatically
\startZwei
...
\nextZwei
...
\stopZwei
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate
Am 26.08.22 um 22:00 schrieb Denis Maier via ntg-context:
Hi,
I need to typeset two poems side by side. Usually, I use the tabulate
environment for typesetting parallel texts. However, for poems this does
not quite work as tabulate does not seem to allow blanks between the
stanzas. See MWE below. Am I missing someting? Is there a better way to
achieve this?
How about columnsets or paragraphs?
\definecolumnset[Zwei][n=2]
\startcolumnset[Zwei]
\startlines
Starlight, star bright,
first star I see tonight;
\stoplines
\column
\startlines
I wish I may, I wish I might
have the wish I wish tonight.
\stoplines
\stopcolumnset
\defineparagraphs[Zwei][n=2]
\setupparagraphs[Zwei][1][
width=.45\textwidth, distance=2em,
align={verytolerant,stretch}]
% width of 2nd column is calculated automatically
\startZwei
...
\nextZwei
...
\stopZwei
Hraban
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