Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/16/2020 2:03 PM, denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org wrote:


Yeah, it seems so. I'm much more afraid of getting Arabic and Judeo-Arabic 
right...
Well, just try it, and when it fails we figure it out. I don't know what 
the difference is between those two arabics but in the end it's all 
about jugling glyphs and some typographic conventions / differences I 
guess.


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 4/16/20 10:05 AM, denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org wrote:
>> Pablo Rodriguez hat am 16. April 2020 09:53 geschrieben:
>> [...]
>> Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?
>
> Sure, https://boris.unibe.ch/135830/ and https://boris.unibe.ch/135828/

Many thanks for the links, Denis.

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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 4/16/20 10:00 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 09:53:46AM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> [...]
>> Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?
>
>   
> https://conference.pkp.sfu.ca/index.php/pkp2019/pkp2019/paper/viewFile/719/455
>  and 
> https://conference.pkp.sfu.ca/index.php/pkp2019/pkp2019/paper/viewFile/691/471.

Many thanks for the links, Arthur.

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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread denis . maier . lists

> Hans Hagen  hat am 16. April 2020 12:24 geschrieben:
> 
>  
> On 4/16/2020 9:02 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> Am 15.04.2020 um 22:52 schrieb denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>> 1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals
> >>> which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet
> >>
> >> I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* 
> >> (https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should 
> >> appear soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml 
> >> as our production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is 
> >> using ConTeXt.)
> > 
> > Interesting. Is ConTeXt handling Hebrew well?
> hebrew is not that complex to handle so context should handle it okay 
> (assuming a proper font setup)


Yeah, it seems so. I'm much more afraid of getting Arabic and Judeo-Arabic 
right...

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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/16/2020 9:02 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:




Am 15.04.2020 um 22:52 schrieb denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org:

Hi,


1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals
which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet


I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* 
(https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should appear 
soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml as our 
production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is using 
ConTeXt.)


Interesting. Is ConTeXt handling Hebrew well?
hebrew is not that complex to handle so context should handle it okay 
(assuming a proper font setup)


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:08 AM Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

>
>
> > Am 15.04.2020 um 22:52 schrieb denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org:
>
> I’m using a Python script to convert DOCX to ConTeXt.


c# under linux is also a valid option.

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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread denis . maier . lists
> Henning Hraban Ramm  hat am 16. April 2020 09:02 geschrieben:

> > I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* 
> > (https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should 
> > appear soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml 
> > as our production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is 
> > using ConTeXt.)
> 
> Interesting. Is ConTeXt handling Hebrew well?

Well, it's not field tested yet. But yes, the demo files work.

> 
> > 
> >> 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to 
> >> recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?
> > 
> > Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project Conference 
> > in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going from docx via 
> > pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about typesetting xml with 
> > ConTeXt.)
> 
> I’m using a Python script to convert DOCX to ConTeXt. The better the input, 
> the better the output can be. Usually there’s a lot of manual work. (Last 
> week I had an article whose author never grew out of the typewriter, i.e. 
> every line was a paragraph, footnotes were just paragraphs at the end of his 
> pages – of course my script couldn’t handle that well.)

Yeah, as always, the output is only as good as the input. That's partly why I 
use pandoc (twice, actually.) In a first run, I produce a normalized markdown 
file, where such idiosyncrasies are removed. There, I then add additional 
formatting. In the second run I can then produce the XML. We need the XML to 
produce a nice web view using the Lens Viewer. And also, with pandoc it's much 
easier to produce XML than ConTeXt. 

Best,
Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 09:53:46AM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 4/15/20 10:52 PM, denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org wrote:
>> Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project
>> Conference in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going
>> from docx via pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about
>> typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)
> 
> Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?

  
https://conference.pkp.sfu.ca/index.php/pkp2019/pkp2019/paper/viewFile/719/455 
and 
https://conference.pkp.sfu.ca/index.php/pkp2019/pkp2019/paper/viewFile/691/471

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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread denis . maier . lists

> Pablo Rodriguez  hat am 16. April 2020 09:53 geschrieben:
> 
>  
> On 4/15/20 10:52 PM, denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org wrote:
> > [...]
> >> 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt
> >> to recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?
> >
> > Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project
> > Conference in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going
> > from docx via pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about
> > typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)
> 
> Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?

Sure, https://boris.unibe.ch/135830/ and https://boris.unibe.ch/135828/

Best, 
Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 4/15/20 10:52 PM, denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org wrote:
> [...]
>> 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt
>> to recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?
>
> Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project
> Conference in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going
> from docx via pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about
> typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)

Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?

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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm


> Am 15.04.2020 um 22:52 schrieb denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> 1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals
>> which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet
> 
> I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* 
> (https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should 
> appear soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml as 
> our production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is using 
> ConTeXt.)

Interesting. Is ConTeXt handling Hebrew well?

> 
>> 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to 
>> recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?
> 
> Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project Conference in 
> Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going from docx via pandoc 
> markdown to jats xml; the other was about typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)

I’m using a Python script to convert DOCX to ConTeXt. The better the input, the 
better the output can be. Usually there’s a lot of manual work. (Last week I 
had an article whose author never grew out of the typewriter, i.e. every line 
was a paragraph, footnotes were just paragraphs at the end of his pages – of 
course my script couldn’t handle that well.)


>> 3) What would be needed and what could help to make them aware?
>> (difficult to properly formulate, if unclear dont bother)
> 
> Don't know. Perhaps more examples?

Even LaTeX is a niche; there are not enough users of ConTeXt for it to look 
reliable, I guess. You can’t really use it without involving yourself in the 
community.

And while I generally love working with ConTeXt, I’m cursing it often enough 
for unexpected/undocumented behaviour, unfinished features and scattered 
documentation. My book is intended to fix the latter, but there’s no progress – 
I got too many different projects and severe limitations of working capacity. 
And children at home...

Best, Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-15 Thread denis . maier . lists
Hi,

> 1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals
> which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet

I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* 
(https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should appear 
soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml as our 
production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is using 
ConTeXt.)

> 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to 
> recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?

Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project Conference in 
Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going from docx via pandoc 
markdown to jats xml; the other was about typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)

> 3) What would be needed and what could help to make them aware?
> (difficult to properly formulate, if unclear dont bother)

Don't know. Perhaps more examples?

Best,
Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-15 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

> Am 15.04.2020 um 17:47 schrieb Christoph Hintermüller 
> :
> 
> 1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals
> which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet
> 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to
> recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?

IRCPS’s journals are typeset with ConTeXt.
https://ircps.org

Also, our (Verlag Dreiviertelhaus) publications are mostly typeset with 
ConTeXt, including the magazine on German literature, Kritische Ausgabe.
https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de

Best, Hraban

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