Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt minimals installation problem

2009-06-21 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

Hello Mojca,

Under Windows, I can create an installer that will allow selecting components 
to install. Just point me pathes to everything.

Vyatcheslav

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt minimals installation problem

2009-06-20 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 23:53, Maurí­cio wrote:
 It's counter-intuitive, but I'm afraid that stable might be a bi
 broken at the moment.

 I didn't find discussion on that on the list, so I think it
 is not bad to ask: has context considered these new fashion
 version control systems?

 I've been using these for a few months (darcs and, recently,
 mercurial), and I can tell it's really worth, although I
 don't know if developers do have time to try or plan such kind
 of switch.

The very first plan was to make everything based on svn. The problem
is that svn is still very very limited. I was experimenting with
darcs, but didn't have enough knowledge about it, and darcs consumes
twice the space needed if I remember correctly, so that was somehow
ruled out before I even started thinking ...

I wanted to have one special kind of functionality, namely, being able
to choose which modules to install, which engines to install, which
fonts to install etc. SVN doesn't offer that. Darcs does with some
clever trickery, but see above.

We did consider ... but didn't have the right idea about the exact
inplementation. Also, I didn't expect so serious problems with version
mismatches. ConTeXt will soon be available with all beta versions as a
git repository, but we would have to put everything else into some
repository as well.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt minimals installation problem

2009-06-20 Thread Peter Münster
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 I wanted to have one special kind of functionality, namely, being able
 to choose which modules to install, which engines to install, which
 fonts to install etc. SVN doesn't offer that.

Hello Mojca,

SVN supports sparse directories¹. Perhaps this can solve the problem.

¹ http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.advanced.sparsedirs.html

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt minimals installation problem

2009-06-09 Thread Maurí­cio

It's counter-intuitive, but I'm afraid that stable might be a bi
broken at the moment.


I didn't find discussion on that on the list, so I think it
is not bad to ask: has context considered these new fashion
version control systems?

I've been using these for a few months (darcs and, recently,
mercurial), and I can tell it's really worth, although I
don't know if developers do have time to try or plan such kind
of switch.

Best,
Maurício

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt minimals installation problem

2009-06-08 Thread Mojca Miklavec
2009/6/3 Michal Kvasnička wrote:
 Hallo, gentlemen.

 I've just tried to install the latest stable ConTeXt minimals on my new
 system (SuSE Linux 11.1). The system downloaded itself (via rsync) all
 right, but it isn't able to create formats (MarkII; I don't know how to use
 MarkIV). If I try run
  texexec --make --all
 manually, I get this error:
  ...TEXROOTDIR/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun:8707: attempt to
 concatenate a nil value

It's counter-intuitive, but I'm afraid that stable might be a bi
broken at the moment.

Hans has recently (for ConTeXt time scale that would be iron-age)
replaced some ruby scripts by lua scripts (texmfstart by mtxrun) and
now even mkii depends on luatex, but since we only provide a single
luatex binary at the moment, it either breaks current or beta. I
should have fixed that, but not now.

Possible solutions:
1.) just take the beta (easiest); most recent problems only affect
mkiv users; there are almost no changes in mkii, so you should be on
the safe side
2.) create a new texexec with texmfstart texexec instead of mtxrun
texexec and make sure that it comes first in path
3.) fetch an older luatex; there should be one at something like
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/bin/linux/luatex/beta-0.31.3/,
but the one for linux-64 is missing for unknown reason (the plan is to
fix it ...)

I didn't try any of the 2/3 options, I'm just blindly guessing.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt minimals installation problem

2009-06-08 Thread Mohamed Bana
here's how i did it (, if i remember correctly).

get a a luatex binary and dump it into the dir of the last command

  $ . ~/context.distro/tex/setuptex
  ...
  $ which luatex
  

does this work?

  svn cat
http://svn.contextgarden.net/minimals/bin/tex/linux-64/current/luatex/bin/lua...@030
 `which luatex`


see;
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Reverting_to_an_older_installation

I use 
  
  ConTeXt - 2008.10.31 13:58

so in my case it's

  sh ./first-setup.sh --context=2008.10.31

you might want to look at the thread i started;
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/49826/focus=49831.


good luck.


On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 21:41 +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 2009/6/3 Michal Kvasnička wrote:
  Hallo, gentlemen.
 
  I've just tried to install the latest stable ConTeXt minimals on my new
  system (SuSE Linux 11.1). The system downloaded itself (via rsync) all
  right, but it isn't able to create formats (MarkII; I don't know how to use
  MarkIV). If I try run
   texexec --make --all
  manually, I get this error:
   ...TEXROOTDIR/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun:8707: attempt to
  concatenate a nil value
 
 It's counter-intuitive, but I'm afraid that stable might be a bi
 broken at the moment.
 
 Hans has recently (for ConTeXt time scale that would be iron-age)
 replaced some ruby scripts by lua scripts (texmfstart by mtxrun) and
 now even mkii depends on luatex, but since we only provide a single
 luatex binary at the moment, it either breaks current or beta. I
 should have fixed that, but not now.
 
 Possible solutions:
 1.) just take the beta (easiest); most recent problems only affect
 mkiv users; there are almost no changes in mkii, so you should be on
 the safe side
 2.) create a new texexec with texmfstart texexec instead of mtxrun
 texexec and make sure that it comes first in path
 3.) fetch an older luatex; there should be one at something like
 http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/bin/linux/luatex/beta-0.31.3/,
 but the one for linux-64 is missing for unknown reason (the plan is to
 fix it ...)
 
 I didn't try any of the 2/3 options, I'm just blindly guessing.
 
 Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Diego Depaoli wrote:
 Due the differences between csh and bash I argued a bit with system
 variables set by setuptex.
 That's my .login
 setenv TEXROOT /home/diego/tex
 setenv TEXPATH  /home/diego/tex
 setenv TEXOS  texmf-freebsd
 setenv TEXMFOS  /home/diego/tex/texmf-freebsd
 setenv PATH /home/diego/tex/texmf-freebsd/bin:$PATH
 setenv TEXMFCACHE /home/diego/tex/texmf-cache
 and until now all works fine.
 May be TEXMFLOCAL and OSFONTDIR are missed, but I ask...
 are all those variables set by setuptex still needed?

no, most of them are used for convenience inside the script; in the end 
what maters is that tex knows where to find the tree, configuration and 
that the bin path is set up

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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-24 Thread Alan Stone
i suspect there's a (configuration) file containing a path specification
which scite uses to catch some path setting to the old context directory,
hence that path could be modified to first look in the new context directory

any clues which file that is and where it's located ?

alan
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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-24 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Alan Stone wrote:
 i suspect there's a (configuration) file containing a path specification
 which scite uses to catch some path setting to the old context directory,
 hence that path could be modified to first look in the new context directory

 any clues which file that is and where it's located ?

If you don't find any suggestions here, ask on the context-dev mailing
list, explain in short what you have already written here - Norbert
will definitely know the answer. (Put debian or ubuntu in subject
line :)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Alan Stone wrote:
 - Ubuntu 8.04

 According to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals
 I installed the context minimals in

 /opt/context

 then ( after some research about its definition and use ) created a

 .bash_profile

.bash_profile works for Mac OS X. Maybe it's .bashrc on your distro? I
have no idea what Linux distributions out there use to initialize
bash. (Are you using bash or sh or maybe something else?)

In any case you need to open a new terminal once you do the changes.

An alternative should be to put the binary path into PATH.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-23 Thread Alan Stone
There's a /home/alan/.bashrc so I've put the command line there... doesn't
work either.

Will research about how to proceed with the PATH alternative.

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Mojca Miklavec 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Alan Stone wrote:
  - Ubuntu 8.04
 
  According to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals
  I installed the context minimals in
 
  /opt/context
 
  then ( after some research about its definition and use ) created a
 
  .bash_profile

 .bash_profile works for Mac OS X. Maybe it's .bashrc on your distro? I
 have no idea what Linux distributions out there use to initialize
 bash. (Are you using bash or sh or maybe something else?)

 In any case you need to open a new terminal once you do the changes.

 An alternative should be to put the binary path into PATH.

 Mojca

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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Alan Stone wrote:
 There's a /home/alan/.bashrc so I've put the command line there... doesn't
 work either.

What happens if you use

 bash
 export

Can you send some output?

   Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-23 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
 There's a /home/alan/.bashrc so I've put the command line there... doesn't
 work either.

  You really need to be more specific.  Are you sure you relaunched bash
after editing .bashrc?  Bash only reads the configuration file once, at
startup, so if you simply edited it you would have missed the change.
Then you should have an environment variable called TEXROOT; check that
echo $TEXROOT returns /opt/context or /opt/context/tex or something
like that.  If so, you should be able to make the formats (texexec
--make --all for Mark II, context --make --all for Mark IV).

Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-23 Thread Alan Stone
 In any case you need to open a new terminal once you do the changes.

There's a /home/alan/.bashrc so I've put the command line there... doesn't
work either.

Strange, terminal window says...

Setting /opt/context/tex as TEXROOT.

and nevertheless the ubuntu tex/context gets invoked.


On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



 Will research about how to proceed with the PATH alternative.


 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Mojca Miklavec 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Alan Stone wrote:
  - Ubuntu 8.04
 
  According to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals
  I installed the context minimals in
 
  /opt/context
 
  then ( after some research about its definition and use ) created a
 
  .bash_profile

 .bash_profile works for Mac OS X. Maybe it's .bashrc on your distro? I
 have no idea what Linux distributions out there use to initialize
 bash. (Are you using bash or sh or maybe something else?)

 In any case you need to open a new terminal once you do the changes.

 An alternative should be to put the binary path into PATH.

 Mojca

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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-23 Thread Alan Stone
 you need to source ~/.bashrc

In which file do I put that ?

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Khaled Hosny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It should be ~/.bashrc (unless you are using another shell than bash),
 you need to source ~/.bashrc to get immediate effect in the current
 shell session.


 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 07:32:08PM +0200, Alan Stone wrote:
  There's a /home/alan/.bashrc so I've put the command line there...
 doesn't work
  either.
 
  Will research about how to proceed with the PATH alternative.
 
  On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Mojca Miklavec 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Alan Stone wrote:
   - Ubuntu 8.04
  
   According to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals
   I installed the context minimals in
  
   /opt/context
  
   then ( after some research about its definition and use ) created a
  
   .bash_profile
 
  .bash_profile works for Mac OS X. Maybe it's .bashrc on your distro?
 I
  have no idea what Linux distributions out there use to initialize
  bash. (Are you using bash or sh or maybe something else?)
 
  In any case you need to open a new terminal once you do the changes.
 
  An alternative should be to put the binary path into PATH.
 
  Mojca
 
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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-23 Thread Khaled Hosny
'which context' should tell you which file is being executed. I'm running
Hardy and all what I needed is to add that line in my ~/.bashrc.

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 07:46:03PM +0200, Alan Stone wrote:
  In any case you need to open a new terminal once you do the changes.
 
 There's a /home/alan/.bashrc so I've put the command line there... doesn't
 work either.
 
 Strange, terminal window says...
 
 Setting /opt/context/tex as TEXROOT.
 
 and nevertheless the ubuntu tex/context gets invoked.
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Will research about how to proceed with the PATH alternative.
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Mojca Miklavec 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Alan Stone wrote:
  - Ubuntu 8.04
 
  According to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals
  I installed the context minimals in
 
  /opt/context
 
  then ( after some research about its definition and use ) created a
 
  .bash_profile
 
 .bash_profile works for Mac OS X. Maybe it's .bashrc on your distro? I
 have no idea what Linux distributions out there use to initialize
 bash. (Are you using bash or sh or maybe something else?)
 
 In any case you need to open a new terminal once you do the changes.
 
 An alternative should be to put the binary path into PATH.
 
 Mojca
 
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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-23 Thread Khaled Hosny
It should be ~/.bashrc (unless you are using another shell than bash),
you need to source ~/.bashrc to get immediate effect in the current
shell session.


On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 07:32:08PM +0200, Alan Stone wrote:
 There's a /home/alan/.bashrc so I've put the command line there... doesn't 
 work
 either.
 
 Will research about how to proceed with the PATH alternative.
 
 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Alan Stone wrote:
  - Ubuntu 8.04
 
  According to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals
  I installed the context minimals in
 
  /opt/context
 
  then ( after some research about its definition and use ) created a
 
  .bash_profile
 
 .bash_profile works for Mac OS X. Maybe it's .bashrc on your distro? I
 have no idea what Linux distributions out there use to initialize
 bash. (Are you using bash or sh or maybe something else?)
 
 In any case you need to open a new terminal once you do the changes.
 
 An alternative should be to put the binary path into PATH.
 
 Mojca
 
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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Alan Stone wrote:

 Checked again... after invoking Build in sciTE, still getting

 ConTeXt  ver: 2007.09.28 16:52 MKII  fmt: 2008.6.18  int: english/english

 in the output window.

 Some naughty setting in sciTE maybe ?

OK, this explains it. SciTE is not reading your ~/.bashrc, only
terminal is. You either need to run SciTE from terminal or find some
other way to pass some environmental variables (at least PATH) to
SciTE.

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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-23 Thread Alan Stone
indeed, when running scite from terminal and building, the output window
shows

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII  fmt: 2008.6.23  int: english/english

learned a few new things today.  :O)

thanks to all for helping out

find some other way to pass some environmental variables (at least PATH) to
SciTE

that's for tomorrow, going to sleep now.

z

alan
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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals installation

2008-06-23 Thread Diego Depaoli
Due the differences between csh and bash I argued a bit with system
variables set by setuptex.
That's my .login
setenv TEXROOT /home/diego/tex
setenv TEXPATH  /home/diego/tex
setenv TEXOS  texmf-freebsd
setenv TEXMFOS  /home/diego/tex/texmf-freebsd
setenv PATH /home/diego/tex/texmf-freebsd/bin:$PATH
setenv TEXMFCACHE /home/diego/tex/texmf-cache
and until now all works fine.
May be TEXMFLOCAL and OSFONTDIR are missed, but I ask...
are all those variables set by setuptex still needed?

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