RE: [NTSysADM] Pushing out ODBC connections

2014-10-28 Thread Hank Arnold
Bad, bad, bad (did I say bad?) idea. I'd push back as to why SA. That's the keys to the kingdom. there are plenty of options w.r.t. user accounts and access permissions. Regards, Hank Arnold Consumer Security There are 10 kinds of people in the world... Those who understand binary and

RE: [NTSysADM] Pushing out ODBC connections

2014-10-28 Thread Gavin Wilby
Lets pretend for the purpose of this that the credential issue isn't an issue. I still need to work out a way to but the connection with a credential as part of the roll out, but looking at it, I'm not sure it can be done with a system DSN to a SQL server in any case. Gavin Wilby IT Support

RE: [NTSysADM] Pushing out ODBC connections

2014-10-28 Thread Ken Schaefer
The ODBC control panel just writes info to the registry. Can you capture those writes? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Gavin Wilby Sent: Tuesday, 28 October 2014 9:00 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Pushing

RE: [NTSysADM] Pushing out ODBC connections

2014-10-28 Thread Gavin Wilby
Everything bar the password it would appear. Gavin Wilby IT Support Engineer From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: 28 October 2014 12:29 To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Pushing out ODBC connections

[NTSysADM] Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Stefan Jafs
I have a few W8.1 systems that now take about 1 hour to re-boot just sitting at the Please Wait screen. Did some Googling did not get really any results, nothing in the event viewers. Tried to do a System Restore it failed. I tried to turn off the Hibernation file, still no go. Probably going

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Did you also update Java via GPO around the same time? Check and see if it updated, there is a nasty path bug that is leaving a dialog box you can't see on boot.manually update Java if it is just a few machines. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Stefan Jafs
Yes I did ok I'll try the manual Java update. Thanks From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim Sent: October 28, 2014 9:45 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Melvin Backus
I ran into what may be the same issue last night on my home machine. It hadn't rebooted after applying the 10/14 patches, and didn't wait an hour I guess, I finally surrendered and forced it to reboot and went back to a system restore point. After several iterations I found the offending

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Knock knock. Who's there. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Java. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 8:52 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM]

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Stefan Jafs
Yes please I have the same issue on my home PC and obviously do not have Java pushed out by GPO. However I stopped Java with GPO re-booted my Office PC re-booted in 2 min (SSD) Thanks guys, I'll check my Home PC tonight From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Stefan Jafs
Yes I tried to manually uninstall the older version and it fails with the \\ , and I agree I hate Java + 1,000. Anyhow back to a 1 min 30 sec re-boot. Stefan From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim Sent: October 28, 2014 9:52 AM

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread James Rankin
2 mins to reboot a SSD? My SSD laptop reboots in about 20 secs, I thought that was a bit sluggish too :-) On 28 October 2014 14:40, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote: Yes please I have the same issue on my home PC and obviously do not have Java pushed out by GPO. However I stopped Java with

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Susan Bradley
Can you dig into the exact update please? Susan Bradley http://blogs.msmvps.com/bradley http://www.runasradio.com/default.aspx?showNum=390 On 10/28/2014 7:17 AM, Melvin Backus wrote: I ran into what may be the same issue last night on my home machine. It hadn’t rebooted after applying the

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Melvin Backus
No problem. I just don't have access to the machine until I get home. -- There are 10 kinds of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. -Original Message- From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Stefan Jafs
That’s because I had the hibernation file shut off for testing, it’s now more like 1 min __ Stefan Jafs From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin Sent: October 28, 2014 11:09 AM To:

RE: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread Steven M. Caesare
We are using electronically signed PDF's stored in sharepoint. -sc From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Dave Lum Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:10 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and

Re: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread Daniel Chenault
We use Salesforce for ticketing which has a change control process within it. I'm guessing budget is limited. Perhaps a PF? On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:11, Dave Lum li...@theitgarage.com wrote: We are defining a new change management process at %dayjob%. The current consensus is to do it all

Re: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread Andrew S. Baker
*I've been asked why not email and I can't come up with anything more useful than new engineer starts and has no way to review previous changes. Kind of a weak argument...* How about auditor asks for centralized update of changes, and now a bunch of people need to generate mail dumps? You can

Re: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread James Rankin
Seen it done through many methods, some smart and collaborative, others not. Word documents, Excel spreadsheets, SharePoint, System Center Service Manager, other bespoke tools (Onyx/Vantive/etc.) Ironically, one of the best I saw was a Lotus Notes database. I know, I know. I'd go SCSM if I had

RE: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread Kuhlman, Donald
Couple of small places I've worked with have used Sharepoint... One used Excel. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Dave Lum Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:10 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] Change Management

Re: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread geoff taylor
Ah! Run screamingpoke yourself in the eye with a sharp stick..its better than suggested email. Here are just some of the reasons: 1) Email does not have a followup and reminder system (automated notifications of approvals, escalations etc) 2) Email will flood your mailbox and

RE: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Sysaid is pretty epic, we use it for our help desk. Have not used it for change management. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of geoff taylor Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:02 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM]

Re: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread geoff taylor
Its true it is aimed at help desk incident work but very easy to adapt for change management. gt On 28/10/2014 2:06 PM, Kennedy, Jim wrote: Sysaid is pretty epic, we use it for our help desk. Have not used it for change management. *From:*listsad...@lists.myitforum.com

RE: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread David Lum
Boom, winner! From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of geoff taylor Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:02 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation Ah! Run

RE: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread Kennedy, Jim
I can totally see that, putting custom templates in is pretty easy in it. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of geoff taylor Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:17 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Change Management

RE: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread Dave Lum
+1 I use cloud SysAid for %sidejob% Help Desk. This list looks like HelpDesk stuff, not change management, although a few still apply. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:06 AM To:

Re: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread geoff taylor
As I mentioned we being poor just adapted the helpdesk components. But Sysaid has the real thing, ITIL compliant as well. https://www.sysaid.com/help-desk/itil-package/change-management On 28/10/2014 2:31 PM, Dave Lum wrote: +1 I use cloud SysAid for %sidejob% Help Desk. This list looks

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
Which version are you seeing this issue with, 7u71 or 7u72? Trying to search to see if we're going to run into this, but all I'm finding is hits from 2013 and earlier on this error. Thanks, Bonnie From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Kennedy, Jim
See it randomly every update from 7 11 up. You can reg delete the key and it will be fine. I just let the techs do it manually it's usually less than 6 per 3000. http://windowsexplored.com/2013/10/23/failed-java-uninstalls/

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Sorry, to answer your question last time I saw it was on 67. Didn't see it on 71. From: Kennedy, Jim Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:08 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates. See it randomly every update from 7 11 up.

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
Thanks-those are the hits I was finding. I guess we are fortunate to not have seen this here yet. We got bit by something similar in the v6 series back in the day, but haven't seen this. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim

[NTSysADM] Sharepoint?

2014-10-28 Thread David McSpadden
Looks like we are going to go with Sharepoint internally for our Intranet. Isn't this a bit overkill for a bunch of hyperlinked pages?? This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are property of Indiana Members Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
And I JUST noticed they are pointing to the 64 bit version, which is probably why we haven't seen it here-still deploying 32 bit at this time. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:09 PM To:

RE: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread Jason Kirkland
So what process does a small company use for change management? Do you just open a ticket and document in that ticket? I don't think that is adequate enough. I am trying to figure out a proper process for us and also how can I get buy in from other employees. From:

[NTSysADM] RE: Sharepoint?

2014-10-28 Thread David McSpadden
Ok. Trying to get some eLearning from SA or an Actual Microsoft classroom class but not sure which ones to take since there are about 100 of them. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Tim Evans Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:56 PM To:

RE: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread David Lum
That's how I handle it for my client. The same mechanism they use to submit Help Desk tickets (SysAid) I create a ticket when I'm making a system change to their systems (patching, upgrades, GPO changes, etc.). It performs double duty as I can then reference that ticket ID in my invoice to them.

RE: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread J- P
+100 on Sysaid been using it for over a decade at many organizations / companies, and as GT pointed out free if you don't need addl admins and even the paid version is dirt cheap in comparison Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:01:53 -0400 From: geoff_tay...@sympatico.ca To:

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Stefan Jafs
I'm now trying to fix my home PC, there are 6 recommended updates, so it probably one of these: Kb2998174 Kb2976978 Kb3000988 Kb2998527 Kb2990967 Kb2976978 __ Stefan Jafs -Original Message- From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Susan Bradley
Active camera is switched unexpectedly when you review photos in Camera app in Windows 8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2: http://support2.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;2998174 Compatibility update for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8:

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Stefan Jafs
That's my got feel also no VMware I'll wait to see if Melvin comes up with the right KB, If it's not the right one I have to wait 1 h and 25 min for it to boot. Thanks __ Stefan Jafs -Original Message- From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com

RE: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread Michael B. Smith
Sysaid is a fine solution, as many people have said. And, if you hunt down an out-of-print book (I believe it was Outlook 2003 for Developers) there is a ECM (Engineering Change Management) application developed using public folders and the Outlook Object Model. System Center Service Manager

Re: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread geoff taylor
We do the same thing using Sysaid. We create a service request from one SA to another with details of change, cataloged in a category specifically for changes vetted by a second SA, and then performed and closed. gt On 28/10/2014 4:27 PM, David Lum wrote: That's how I handle it for my

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Melvin Backus
And the magic number is... KB2998174. I spent about 4 hours having to go through 15 or so updates one at a time until I found it. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Miller Bonnie L. Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:42 PM To:

RE: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread Dave Lum
Thanks for the feedback everyone. Fortunately budgeting isn’t an issue, and we only rolled out this change management process two weeks ago and we’re still refining it. Knowing how momentum works, I’d rather change this now than try to change it six months from now when I’ll hear “how will

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Sharepoint?

2014-10-28 Thread Daniel Wolf
If you're going to use or promote SharePoint, dump as much as you can into its performance and DB tuning. I've seen a SharePoint-based initiative sink because people wouldn't use anything not instantly responsive in every way. Nobody accepts bad performance in their tools anymore, even if it

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates.

2014-10-28 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Thanks! From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Melvin Backus Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 4:56 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 8 re-boots very long after latest Microsoft updates. And the magic number

[NTSysADM] SolarWinds Orion - Performance Questions

2014-10-28 Thread Kuehn, Shannon
Hi everyone, Just a quick survey out there to the community at large: - If you're using SolarWinds Orion, how have you fine-tuned the web GUI performance? I've been reading online and have a few strats to try, but I'd love to query the group too, as part of our process before moving

RE: [NTSysADM] Change Management process and documentation

2014-10-28 Thread Ken Schaefer
What is the point of the change management process? What are you trying to accomplish? This doesn’t seem to be articulated anywhere. Typically you use change management to move the environment from one known state to another – managing risk etc. along the way. 1) Risk management (this

Re: [NTSysADM] Adobe Reader can't open PDFs over the WAN

2014-10-28 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I'm seeing increasing references to this issue with Adobe. It seems to relate to the Security Zones setting I referred to. I have mostly seen recommendation to go with FQDNs. -- Espi On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: That's good info. Thanks for that.