RE: [NTSysADM] MS14-066 Round Two

2014-11-23 Thread John Matteson
Well, as I understand it, the emergency patch MS-14-68 is to fix an issue that will allow an attacker to get elevated privileges. This is the text from the bulletin: Vulnerability in Kerberos Could Allow Elevation of Privilege (3011780) This security update resolves a privately reported

Re: [NTSysADM] MS14-066 Round Two

2014-11-23 Thread Susan Bradley
MS14-068 is not MS14-066 Two different vulnerabilities. MS14-068 is a Kerb - we can own your DC. MS14-066 is a vuln over Schannel. The revision for the MS14-066 is needed as they added additional ciphers to the patch that fixes the vuln which in term a. caused issues with websites and

Re: [NTSysADM] MS14-066 Round Two

2014-11-23 Thread Susan Bradley
P.S. Microsoft should not be ADDING new cipher deployments in a security patch. That should have been included as an optional update. Don't be thowing too much into a patch. This isn't the time to be adding new stuff when you clearly are not testing as well as you used to. Sorry this isn't

RE: [NTSysADM] MS14-066 Round Two

2014-11-23 Thread geoff taylor
Agreed. So your take is like mine that KB3018238 is a bug fix, and is not required to patch the vulnerability? gt Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 08:11:44 -0800 From: sbrad...@pacbell.net To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] MS14-066 Round Two P.S. Microsoft should

Re: [NTSysADM] MS14-066 Round Two

2014-11-23 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] MS14-066 Round Two P.S. Microsoft should not be ADDING new cipher deployments in a security patch. That should have been included as an optional update. Don't be thowing too much into a patch. This isn't the time to be adding new stuff when you clearly

Re: [NTSysADM] MS14-066 Round Two

2014-11-23 Thread Susan Bradley
, and is not required to patch the vulnerability? gt Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 08:11:44 -0800 From: sbrad...@pacbell.net mailto:sbrad...@pacbell.net To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] MS14-066 Round Two P.S

RE: [NTSysADM] MS14-066 Round Two

2014-11-23 Thread geoff taylor
, 23 Nov 2014 13:19:51 -0800 From: sbrad...@pacbell.net To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] MS14-066 Round Two The original patch patches the schannel vulnerability. The second patch fixes the bug in the cipher additions. Honestly, both will keep you patched up