RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

2017-08-23 Thread Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
Ok, so from this, it looks like it makes more sense to start with OMS, not 
SCOM?  We don't have much of an Azure presence, and costs are prohibitive to 
just moving the whole environment up there, but there is a desire from our 
execs, and the state as a whole, to look "cloud first".

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 4:47 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

It started out that way, but Microsoft is pushing deeper into the cloud into a 
more accelerated rate. OMS has gotten a lot of unexpected capabilities from 
SCOM in the last 6 months to a year, making it clear the direction the products 
are heading. Watch the OMS announcements from Ignite (you can stream at your 
desk and skip the massive crowd).

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:56 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

I had read that OMS was SCOM lite, though, and not expected to get full 
functionality.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 1:57 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

The MSMOM/SCOM list isn't high traffic at all - which is actually indicative of 
the product itself. Microsoft is moving SCOM capabilities to OMS. SCOM has a 
short shelf life.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 1:57 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

Thanks Michael.  As mentioned, I signed up for the Myitforum list last week, 
but haven't seen a single message yet.  Is that normal?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 4:37 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

The one I use is ms...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com>

It's low volume, but high quality.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 7:00 PM
To: 'NT System Admin Issues Discussion list'
Subject: [NTSysADM] Any good SCOM lists?

I signed up for the MyITForum SCOM list, but haven't seen a single message in 
the few days since.  Does anyone know of any active lists?

I know I can go to Technet Forums, etc. but wanted a mailing list, like this, 
or the SCCM/Exchange lists.

Thanks,

Joe Heaton
Information Technology Operations Branch
Data and Technology Division
CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk:  916-323-1284

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

2017-08-23 Thread Rod Trent 
It started out that way, but Microsoft is pushing deeper into the cloud into
a more accelerated rate. OMS has gotten a lot of unexpected capabilities
from SCOM in the last 6 months to a year, making it clear the direction the
products are heading. Watch the OMS announcements from Ignite (you can
stream at your desk and skip the massive crowd).

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:56 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

 

I had read that OMS was SCOM lite, though, and not expected to get full
functionality.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 1:57 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

 

The MSMOM/SCOM list isn't high traffic at all - which is actually indicative
of the product itself. Microsoft is moving SCOM capabilities to OMS. SCOM
has a short shelf life.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 1:57 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

 

Thanks Michael.  As mentioned, I signed up for the Myitforum list last week,
but haven't seen a single message yet.  Is that normal?

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 4:37 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

 

The one I use is ms...@lists.myitforum.com
<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com> 

 

It's low volume, but high quality.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 7:00 PM
To: 'NT System Admin Issues Discussion list'
Subject: [NTSysADM] Any good SCOM lists?

 

I signed up for the MyITForum SCOM list, but haven't seen a single message
in the few days since.  Does anyone know of any active lists?

 

I know I can go to Technet Forums, etc. but wanted a mailing list, like
this, or the SCCM/Exchange lists.

 

Thanks,

 

Joe Heaton

Information Technology Operations Branch

Data and Technology Division

CA Department of Fish and Wildlife

1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor

Sacramento, CA  95811

Desk:  916-323-1284

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

2017-08-22 Thread Michael B. Smith 
It sure doesn't have anywhere near parity today.

But Rod would know more about what is coming in the future, than me.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:56 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

I had read that OMS was SCOM lite, though, and not expected to get full 
functionality.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 1:57 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

The MSMOM/SCOM list isn't high traffic at all - which is actually indicative of 
the product itself. Microsoft is moving SCOM capabilities to OMS. SCOM has a 
short shelf life.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 1:57 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

Thanks Michael.  As mentioned, I signed up for the Myitforum list last week, 
but haven't seen a single message yet.  Is that normal?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 4:37 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

The one I use is ms...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com>

It's low volume, but high quality.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 7:00 PM
To: 'NT System Admin Issues Discussion list'
Subject: [NTSysADM] Any good SCOM lists?

I signed up for the MyITForum SCOM list, but haven't seen a single message in 
the few days since.  Does anyone know of any active lists?

I know I can go to Technet Forums, etc. but wanted a mailing list, like this, 
or the SCCM/Exchange lists.

Thanks,

Joe Heaton
Information Technology Operations Branch
Data and Technology Division
CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk:  916-323-1284

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

2017-08-22 Thread Rod Trent 
The MSMOM/SCOM list isn't high traffic at all - which is actually indicative
of the product itself. Microsoft is moving SCOM capabilities to OMS. SCOM
has a short shelf life.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 1:57 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

 

Thanks Michael.  As mentioned, I signed up for the Myitforum list last week,
but haven't seen a single message yet.  Is that normal?

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 4:37 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

 

The one I use is ms...@lists.myitforum.com
 

 

It's low volume, but high quality.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 7:00 PM
To: 'NT System Admin Issues Discussion list'
Subject: [NTSysADM] Any good SCOM lists?

 

I signed up for the MyITForum SCOM list, but haven't seen a single message
in the few days since.  Does anyone know of any active lists?

 

I know I can go to Technet Forums, etc. but wanted a mailing list, like
this, or the SCCM/Exchange lists.

 

Thanks,

 

Joe Heaton

Information Technology Operations Branch

Data and Technology Division

CA Department of Fish and Wildlife

1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor

Sacramento, CA  95811

Desk:  916-323-1284

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

2017-08-22 Thread elsalvoz 
Read Kevin Holman blog posts. Helped me greatly when I got started and
continue to do so.

Understand classes hierarchies and objects of clases which are in SCOM

Cesar A.

On Aug 22, 2017 2:32 PM, "Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife" <
joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:

> No, no specific questions.  Getting ready to dip my toe, so to speak, so
> was looking for a list, and maybe an archive, but I don’t think the
> MyItforums list has an archive.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *elsalvoz
> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2017 5:57 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?
>
>
>
> Technet is kinda active. Myitforum one is one of the most quiet on but if
> you ask questions there are several good people including Kevin Holman. Do
> you have a question on SCOM?
>
> Cesar A.
>
>
>
> On Aug 18, 2017 4:43 PM, "Michael B. Smith" <mich...@smithcons.com> wrote:
>
> The one I use is ms...@lists.myitforum.com
>
>
>
> It’s low volume, but high quality.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2017 7:00 PM
> *To:* 'NT System Admin Issues Discussion list'
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] Any good SCOM lists?
>
>
>
> I signed up for the MyITForum SCOM list, but haven’t seen a single message
> in the few days since.  Does anyone know of any active lists?
>
>
>
> I know I can go to Technet Forums, etc. but wanted a mailing list, like
> this, or the SCCM/Exchange lists.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> Information Technology Operations Branch
>
> Data and Technology Division
>
> CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
>
> 1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor
>
> Sacramento, CA  95811
>
> Desk:  916-323-1284 <(916)%20323-1284>
>
>
>
>

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Any good SCOM lists?

2017-08-18 Thread elsalvoz 
Technet is kinda active. Myitforum one is one of the most quiet on but if
you ask questions there are several good people including Kevin Holman. Do
you have a question on SCOM?

Cesar A.

On Aug 18, 2017 4:43 PM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:

> The one I use is ms...@lists.myitforum.com
>
>
>
> It’s low volume, but high quality.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2017 7:00 PM
> *To:* 'NT System Admin Issues Discussion list'
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] Any good SCOM lists?
>
>
>
> I signed up for the MyITForum SCOM list, but haven’t seen a single message
> in the few days since.  Does anyone know of any active lists?
>
>
>
> I know I can go to Technet Forums, etc. but wanted a mailing list, like
> this, or the SCCM/Exchange lists.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> Information Technology Operations Branch
>
> Data and Technology Division
>
> CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
>
> 1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor
>
> Sacramento, CA  95811
>
> Desk:  916-323-1284 <(916)%20323-1284>
>
>
>