apple updating issue

2012-10-11 Thread Laurence
Hi All I'm starting to see many instances of our Apple QuickTime software installs failing the updating process I have all of my machines set with the 'check for updates automatically' option unchecked as we have found it easier that way when in the QuickTime control panel applet, update tab;

OT: Scour redirect virus?

2012-10-11 Thread Christopher Bodnar
Just wondering if anyone else has had to deal with this one. Got hit with this on my home machine this week. I am by no means a security expert, so that may have been part of my problem. But was sort of surprised by the lack of resources/info available out there from the major players (AVG,

RE: Windows 8 app behaviour

2012-10-11 Thread Ken Schaefer
They get suspended when you move to another app. So, they do use resources (some storage to store their suspended state), but that resource usage shouldn't slow down your computer (I think that's how the argument goes...) See: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh464925.aspx

RE: Scour redirect virus?

2012-10-11 Thread Maglinger, Paul
I've used ComboFix a number of times and have been pretty happy with it. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 7:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Scour redirect virus? Just wondering if anyone else has had to deal with this

Re: Test Lab Guides

2012-10-11 Thread Don Kuhlman
Thanks Steven. Very good stuff! Don K On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember if I sent this link out previously so I am going to send it out again just because I sent it to my co-workers with the Windows 2012 stuff. -- There is a group at

RE: OT: Scour redirect virus?

2012-10-11 Thread Tom Yergeau
Unless we use scissors security how can we avoid things that even the experts can't isolate the code for? This article a while back brought it all into focus for me. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231418/Elusive_TDL4_malware_variant_ infected_Fortune_500_companies_gov_t_agencies

Re: apple updating issue

2012-10-11 Thread Matthew W. Ross
Check that you're not blocking this somehow; Check your Firewall rules, Router config and content filter if you have it. Try to do an update outside your network (at home). If it works there, something on the local network is stopping you. For us, if something isn't reaching something else,

Re: OT: Scour redirect virus?

2012-10-11 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Hi Tom, What's your definition of scissors security ? Solutions like Bit9 Parity, CoreTrace Bouncer, Faronics Anti-Executablehttp://www.faronics.com/products/anti-executable/standard/, and Savant Protection are available today, and the cost per end-point is comparable to traditional AV

Re: Windows 8 app behaviour

2012-10-11 Thread Kurt Buff
Forgive my poor memory, but isn't this the kind of multitasking that Win3.x brought us? Kurt On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:20 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: It seems that it is similar to the Windows Phone 7.5 model. After “about” six apps get suspended, Win8 starts closing the

RE: Windows 8 app behaviour

2012-10-11 Thread Michael B. Smith
This is only true of metro apps. Desktop apps follow the standard we are used to. And quite frankly, everyone (or most) on this mailing list will spend almost all of their time on the desktop. IMO. YMMV. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday,

RE: Windows 8 app behaviour

2012-10-11 Thread Ben M. Schorr
Absolutely agree. I find the Metro stuff mostly annoying when I'm trying to get real work done. Who wants a full screen IM client on a 24 monitor??! Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com -Original

Re: Windows 8 app behaviour

2012-10-11 Thread Kurt Buff
I suppose I'll have to grab a copy and see how it works. Kurt On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: This is only true of metro apps. Desktop apps follow the standard we are used to. And quite frankly, everyone (or most) on this mailing list will

RE: OT: Scour redirect virus?

2012-10-11 Thread Tom Yergeau
What's your definition of scissors security ? Cutting the internet connection, or at least running a VM on each desktop that's used for all internet access and reset to a baseline snapshot at the end of each day. Thanks for the list of products, I'll check them out. From: Andrew

RE: OT: Scour redirect virus?

2012-10-11 Thread Matthew W. Ross
What's your definition of scissors security ? http://www.dumbentia.com/pdflib/scissors.pdf yuk yuk yuk! --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Yergeau [mailto:tyerg.itm...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues

Re: Windows 8 app behaviour

2012-10-11 Thread Steven Peck
I like Aidan Finn's take on it from a while ago. I think he's nicer about it then I am. http://www.aidanfinn.com/?p=13212 While I don't recall the WIndows XP thing he references I do recall the progman explorer start menu panic in the cube farms during WinNT3.51 - Nt4. So far, every single

Re: Windows 8 app behaviour

2012-10-11 Thread Steven Peck
gah! co-worker thought he'd be funny and grab my chair so it got sent to soon. Sorry about the ending. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: I like Aidan Finn's take on it from a while ago. I think he's nicer about it then I am.

RE: Windows 8 app behaviour

2012-10-11 Thread Maglinger, Paul
i DoN'T kNOW, I THOUght it waS preTtY fuNNy. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 8 app behaviour gah! co-worker thought he'd be funny and grab my chair so it got sent to soon. Sorry about the

RE: Windows 8 app behaviour

2012-10-11 Thread Mike Hoffman
When you get the right app - i.e. the built in email app - taking 1/3 of one monitor then it makes a clean info pane while resizing the desktop. Currently there are not very many apps that run well on 1/3 screen, but it's only a matter of time. If someone produces a decent monitoring app then I

RE: Windows 8 app behaviour

2012-10-11 Thread Free, Bob
I thought this was the only tile you needed MBS? [cid:image001.png@01CDA7B0.4FF6A7E0] -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 8 app behaviour This is only

RE: Windows 8 app behaviour

2012-10-11 Thread Michael B. Smith
It is the primary tile I use ☺ But I do use some other tiles quite extensively, as well. Let’s see, right now I have open 11 IE tabs, 9 Chrome tabs, 7 Outlook messages, 2 Word documents, 2 Excel workbooks, 1 PowerPoint deck, 6 PowerShell sessions, 1 Terminals session, Skype, and 3 GVim

Re: OT: Scour redirect virus?

2012-10-11 Thread James Rankin
Whitelist the apps is one way. MS has AppLocker which can do this, there are a vast array of others out there. I think we've had this discussion before though.. On 11 October 2012 16:23, Tom Yergeau tyerg.itm...@gmail.com wrote: Unless we use “scissors security” how can we avoid things that

RE: Windows 8 app behaviour

2012-10-11 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I think that may change over time. At TechEd NZ there was a few demos on Enterprise Metro Apps that I can see the enterprise using . -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:

Re: OT: Scour redirect virus?

2012-10-11 Thread Andrew S. Baker
LOL * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote: What's your definition of scissors security ? http://www.dumbentia.com/pdflib/scissors.pdf yuk