After Action Report RE: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

2010-11-01 Thread David Lum
v3.5 just throws it wherever and apparently making it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. Dave From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 2:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me Sounds like you should home

How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

2010-10-08 Thread David Lum
I have 7 production systems running on 3 different ESX boxes in an ESX cluster, and 2 different logical SAN volumes (sorry am not SAN savvy, I just know I have two different SAN volumes to choose from when making a VM). Today, a SAN blows up and takes out half - our SharePoint server (heavily

Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

2010-10-08 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Yes, process failures can be deadly... Also, it is more important in this day and age of massive consolidation to make sure that your backups and DR are effective, because cascading failures can take out much more of your infrastructure than ever before. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile)

RE: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

2010-10-08 Thread John Aldrich
All I can say is OUCH! :-( From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 5:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me I have 7 production systems running on 3 different ESX boxes in an ESX cluster, and 2 different logical SAN

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2010-10-08 Thread Paul Hutchings
this for a bad day? AKA bad me All I can say is OUCH! :-( From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 5:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me I have 7 production systems running on 3 different ESX boxes in an ESX cluster, and 2

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2010-10-08 Thread John Aldrich
Yep. Good point. :-) VERY good point! -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me Being slightly serious for a moment, it's a pretty good

Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

2010-10-08 Thread Jeff Bunting
Why do you need to power down VMs to reboot vCenter? vCenter might be the problem with the missing VMs. VMWare support might be able to help you with those. Jeff On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:51 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: I have 7 production systems running on 3 different ESX boxes

Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

2010-10-08 Thread Jonathan Link
+1 I'm just getting caught up on emails this morning. vCenter reboot shouldn't necessitate a reboot of a host server. On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Jeff Bunting bunting.j...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you need to power down VMs to reboot vCenter? vCenter might be the problem with the

RE: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

2010-10-08 Thread David Lum
Issues Subject: Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me Why do you need to power down VMs to reboot vCenter? vCenter might be the problem with the missing VMs. VMWare support might be able to help you with those. Jeff On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:51 AM, David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david

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2010-10-08 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me +1 I'm just getting caught up on emails this morning. vCenter reboot shouldn't necessitate a reboot of a host server. On Fri, Oct 8, 2010

Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

2010-10-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:51 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: I have 7 production systems ... Oh, boy. Fun. I've had days like that. Not many, fortunately (and knock on wood). Hope you get it all sorted out in time for the weekend! Today I find myself having to arbitrate a pooch

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2010-10-08 Thread Jonathan Link
Machines are recalcitrant, they're just misunderstood. On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:51 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: I have 7 production systems ... Oh, boy. Fun. I've had days like that. Not many, fortunately

Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

2010-10-08 Thread Steven Peck
If the systems are still actually on the LUNs, then you should be able to reconnect them and bring them up. Rebooting vCenter should not have had anything to do with shutting down guests but rebooting the SAN might possibly have been required to address it's fire. From vCenter just reconnect to

Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

2010-10-08 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Your not is AWOL *ASB * * * On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: Machines are recalcitrant, they're just misunderstood. On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:51 AM, David Lum

Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

2010-10-08 Thread Jonathan Link
That's not the only thing... On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Your not is AWOL *ASB * * * On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: Machines are recalcitrant, they're just misunderstood. On Fri, Oct 8,

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2010-10-08 Thread Andrew S. Baker
* *jra...@eaglemds.com* *www.eaglemds.com -- *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 9:40 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me +1 I'm just getting caught up on emails

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2010-10-08 Thread David Lum
: Friday, October 08, 2010 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:51 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: I have 7 production systems ... Oh, boy. Fun. I've had days like that. Not many, fortunately (and knock on wood

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2010-10-08 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
, October 08, 2010 12:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me Yeah I seem to run into this kind of I should change my career event once every five years or so, although this event isn't nearly as stressful as being at a client (these down systems are at %dayjob

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2010-10-08 Thread Terry Dickson
Amen -Original Message- From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me I've said it before, but I will say it again. In a highly virtualized, heavily consolidated

Root cause of: RE: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

2010-10-08 Thread David Lum
this for a bad day? AKA bad me I've said it before, but I will say it again. In a highly virtualized, heavily consolidated world, we need more planning, more thinking and more time for effective execution. Cutting corners will become more and more painful, and will bite more and more organizations

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2010-10-08 Thread Kurt Buff
“experience”. Dave From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 9:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me I've said it before, but I will say it again. In a highly virtualized, heavily consolidated world, we

RE: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

2010-10-08 Thread Brian Desmond
day? AKA bad me I have 7 production systems running on 3 different ESX boxes in an ESX cluster, and 2 different logical SAN volumes (sorry am not SAN savvy, I just know I have two different SAN volumes to choose from when making a VM). Today, a SAN blows up and takes out half - our SharePoint