On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 07:31, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Daniel Rodriguez drod...@gmail.com wrote:
There is a Java based Excel Application. It is actually part of Open Office.
This will allow the users to open, view, and edit the Excel Spreadsheet,
Well said.
He needs to choose a dollar amount (because FREE is not an option here), and
a percentage of effectiveness (because 100% is not an option here)
If it is worth his time to spend, say, $10-20K to address 70-80% of his
concern, then he might be able to find several solutions.
If he want
Have a friend, that I talk to, and he recommends the following;
There is a Java based Excel Application. It is actually part of Open Office.
This will allow the users to open, view, and edit the Excel Spreadsheet, but
when the user 'saves' the spreadsheet, it will be saved back to it's source,
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Daniel Rodriguez drod...@gmail.com wrote:
There is a Java based Excel Application. It is actually part of Open Office.
This will allow the users to open, view, and edit the Excel Spreadsheet, but
when the user 'saves' the spreadsheet, it will be saved back to
Don't forget pencil and paper?
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From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:31 AM
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Subject: Re: How to block, but not block?!
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Daniel Rodriguez drod...@gmail.com wrote
to how much you
want to spend and how you want to treat your employees.
a
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From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: 16 June 2010 17:40
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How to block, but not block?!
From a security standpoint, wouldn't you also need
On 17 Jun 2010 at 14:57, Terry Dickson wrote:
Don't forget pencil and paper?
This thread reminds of an episode of The Man from U.N.C.L.E. when Ilya Kuryakin
and Napoleon Solo needed to smuggle some paperwork out of the secured document
facility at U.N.C.L.E. -- all paper in the secure
The secure environments that I have seen use clean desktop environments with
security cameras. Employees are not allowed to bring anything into the
secure area. The desktops must remain clear at all times and cameras watch
for any rule breakages.
-Bill
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Angus
On the first part, he states that since it is Java based, that you can turn
off the copy capabilities. He says that you can keep the Java app from
copying to the local machine, but you can copy and paste within the
application, should you want to manipulate the data of the spreadsheet. But,
if you
Might be pertinent to your project: http://preview.tinyurl.com/29gc7lh
Die dulci fruere!
Roger Wright
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On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have been asked to provide a solution which I don't think can be provided,
but figured I'd get your input
Cool!
Thanks and thank you to everyone else who has chimed in so far.
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From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How to block, but not block?!
Might be pertinent to your project: http
Now here's an idea -- have the screen display something that can only be seen
when you wear these:
DECODER GLASSES
http://www.rainbowsymphony.com/decoder-glasses.html
Video monitoring of the secure area would mean you would be able to catch
anyone putting glasses on their digital
Hi all,
I have been asked to provide a solution which I don't think can be provided,
but figured I'd get your input any see if you know of anything out there.
The concept is as follows:
There is an excel file which is highly secretive and guarded.
The CEO wants to make sure people have no way of
What about using something like pgp desktop ?
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From: gro...@beachcomp.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wed, Jun 16, 2010 10:09:18 CDT
Subject: How to block, but not block?!
Hi all,
I have been
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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How to block, but not block?!
Hi all,
I have been asked to provide a solution which I don't think can be provided,
but figured I'd get your input any see if you know of anything out there.
The concept is as follows
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How to block, but not block?!
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/excel-help/information-rights-management-i
n-the-2007-microsoft-office-system-HA010102918.aspx
John Hornbuckle
MIS
[mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com]
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Subject: How to block, but not block?!
Hi all,
I have been asked to provide a solution which I don't think can be provided,
but figured I'd get your input any see if you know of anything out
And cell phone cameras.
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From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How to block, but not block?!
From a security standpoint, wouldn't you also need to block screen
prints/screen
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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How to block, but not block?!
Good stuff but I did forget to add something.
A user taking a screenshot of the spreadsheet, then saving it.
So while they are locked down from doing any mods
]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How to block, but not block?!
If they can get it on their monitor, it can leak. Screen capture, digital or
cell cameras, photocopy machines...
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Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman
Those have a special reflective ink inside from what I read.
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From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How to block, but not block?!
You beat me too it.
That reminds me, I always
Quiz time! There are seldom technological solutions to .
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From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How to block, but not block?!
And cell phone cameras
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote:
He wants to know if anyone prints it, or saves it externally, or e-mails it.
Hire security guards to stand behind each user and make sure they
don't do anything improper.
Also, give each user a lobotomy before they leave the
Im gonna have to test that theory out. I thought I saw a car with one
downstairs in our parking lot.
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From: gro...@beachcomp.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:06 PM
Subject: RE: How to block
.
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From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How to block, but not block?!
Quiz time! There are seldom technological solutions to .
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From: Kennedy, Jim
is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
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From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How to block, but not block?!
If they can get it on their monitor, it can leak
Subject: RE: How to block, but not block?!
Those have a special reflective ink inside from what I read.
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From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How to block, but not block?!
You beat me
then there is always the Camera in their cell phones as well.
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From: gro...@beachcomp.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:37:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: How to block
behavioral problems.
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From: Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:14:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
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Quiz time
: How to block, but not block?!
behavioral problems.
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From: Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:14:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: How
There are several good technology solutions to address much of your
requirement. But not all of it.
-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
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On Jun 16, 2010 12:13 PM, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have been asked to provide a solution which I don't think can be
You might want to see what the CIA, FBI, NSA or other organizations do with
their sensitive information... :-)
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have been asked to provide a solution which I don't think can be
provided,
but figured I'd get your input
Yeah go watch a few seasons of 24.
On 6/16/2010 2:59 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:
You might want to see what the CIA, FBI, NSA or other organizations do
with their sensitive information... :-)
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM, gro...@beachcomp.com
mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com wrote:
Hi
[mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 06:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How to block, but not block?!
Good stuff but I did forget to add something.
A user taking a screenshot of the spreadsheet, then saving it.
So while they are locked down from doing
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Ben Schorr b...@rolandschorr.com wrote:
Actually if he uses Microsoft's IRM solution it locks out the screenshot
functions so they wouldn't be able to do that. It's surprisingly good.
FWIW, Microsoft's own marketing page says it may not be effective
against
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From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 09:36
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How to block, but not block?!
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Ben Schorr b...@rolandschorr.com wrote
They put you in jail for leaking it. They also implement extensive and
expensive background checks, not to mention data segregation. You can only
access the data if you need it. Just because you have clearance doesn't
mean you can access all data that is rated at that clearance level.
On Wed,
Which can probably be duplicated if you are serious enough to want to so it.
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From: gro...@beachcomp.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wed, Jun 16, 2010 11:03:09 CDT
Subject: RE: How to block
:01 2010
Subject: Re: How to block, but not block?!
You might want to see what the CIA, FBI, NSA or other organizations do with
their sensitive information... :-)
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM,
gro...@beachcomp.commailto:gro...@beachcomp.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have been asked to provide
Paper and pencil...
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From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How to block, but not block?!
And cell phone cameras.
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From: Erik Goldoff
Security clearances.. but even then info gets out!
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How to block, but not block?!
You might want to see what the CIA, FBI, NSA or other organizations do
He seems to be unclear on the concept of you can't have your cake and
eat it too.
I would lay out the threats you're finding in this string of mail, and
suggest that implementing all of the the countermeasures for them will
destroy the business, then ask him to pick the one or two or three
that
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