Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-17 Thread Rene de Haas
Was quite comfortable in vi. Used it for programming cobol years ago. Still remember one incident though. You use can j for going cursor-down. So I wanted to go down quite some lines and kept it pressed down, then noticing that since caps lock was on I was executing J, which is join line. Ended up

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2009-08-17 Thread RAY ZORZ
yes Jim Majorowicz jmajorow...@gmail.com 8/15/2009 8:55 PM Does that make us old? From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law Hell yeah! I wrote many reports using

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2009-08-16 Thread Edward B. DREGER
JA Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:47:08 -0400 JA From: John Aldrich JA Hey... another joe fan! :-) +1 JA Yeah... when I first started learning linux (seriously) almost a JA decade ago, my boss got me started using joe and I never got around Pico in '93 or '94... then discovered joe a few years

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2009-08-16 Thread Kurt Buff
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 23:03, Edward B. DREGEReddy+public+s...@noc.everquick.net wrote: JA Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:47:08 -0400 JA From: John Aldrich JA Hey... another joe fan! :-) +1 JA Yeah... when I first started learning linux (seriously) almost a JA decade ago, my boss got me

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2009-08-15 Thread Jim Majorowicz
Does that make us old? From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law Hell yeah! I wrote many reports using that... On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM, asbz...@gmail.com wrote

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2009-08-15 Thread Don Ely
*To*: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: More consequences of bad IP law I want my PFS: Professional Write back…. *From:* David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:53 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re

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2009-08-15 Thread Edward B. DREGER
SMC Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:10:46 -0400 SMC From: Steven M. Caesare SMC They'd just happily continue using WordPerfect. I like LaTeX. :-P Eddy -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce,

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2009-08-14 Thread Jon Harris
:* Re: More consequences of bad IP law I don't know I liked my Wordstar better than the WordPerfect but that might date me a little. - Original Message - *From:* Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Wednesday

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2009-08-13 Thread David W. McSpadden
I don't know I liked my Wordstar better than the WordPerfect but that might date me a little. - Original Message - From: Andrew S. Baker To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law +2 -ASB

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2009-08-13 Thread Scot Parsons
Memories. I used Wordstar to write dbase III programs. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law I don't know I liked my Wordstar better than the WordPerfect but that might

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2009-08-13 Thread David W. McSpadden
Where you in the military? That's where my wordstar/dbII - dbIV time came in. - Original Message - From: Scot Parsons To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law Memories. I used Wordstar to write dbase

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2009-08-13 Thread Scot Parsons
consequences of bad IP law Where you in the military? That's where my wordstar/dbII - dbIV time came in. - Original Message - From: Scot Parsonsmailto:spars...@scetv.org To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: RE: More

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2009-08-13 Thread David W. McSpadden
Apparentlly my word skills are lacking and my grammar is even worse. I am going back to bed. - Original Message - From: Scot Parsons To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:20 AM Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law No, but the guy who

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2009-08-13 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Used WordStar on a Kaypro connected to a daisywheel printer for my journalism class... W00t! -sc From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law I don't know I liked

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2009-08-13 Thread Michael . Leone
David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.com wrote on 08/13/2009 07:53:00 AM: I don't know I liked my Wordstar better than the WordPerfect but that might date me a little. I still configure my favorite Linux editor (called joe) to emulate WordStar 2000. :-) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that

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2009-08-13 Thread John Aldrich
Message- From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.com wrote on 08/13/2009 07:53:00 AM: I

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2009-08-13 Thread Michael . Leone
John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote on 08/13/2009 11:47:08 AM: Hey... another joe fan! :-) Yeah... when I first started learning linux (seriously) almost a decade ago, my boss got me started using joe and I never got around to learning vi/m or anything else. I can remember how

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2009-08-13 Thread Michael . Leone
Ben Schorr b...@rolandschorr.com 8/12/2009 2:17 PM SHIFT+F1 reveals formatting in Word. Not in nearly the same way, unfortunately. It's not inline revealing, as WP ofr DOS was. I used to work for a company that wrote sales training manuals; all the data entry folks (i.e., the schlubs who

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2009-08-13 Thread Jim Majorowicz
I want my PFS: Professional Write back.. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law I don't know I liked my Wordstar better than the WordPerfect but that might date me

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2009-08-13 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 13 Aug 2009 at 11:06, michael.le...@pha.phila.gov wrote: I still configure my favorite Linux editor (called joe) to emulate WordStar 2000. :-) I still have QEdit set to emulate many WS keystrokes. My first PC word processor was PC-Write; even though my Zenith Z-152 came with MS Word 1.0

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2009-08-13 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 12 Aug 2009 at 11:17, Ben Schorr wrote: SHIFT+F1 reveals formatting in Word. While this shows the inline formatting, it's not even CLOSE to Reveal Codes because Word docs are not just strings of characters + formatting. It doesn't show you where many of the block formatting stuff is

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2009-08-13 Thread asbzone
That was a cool app! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jim Majorowicz jmajorow...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:42:30 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law I want my PFS

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2009-08-13 Thread Don Ely
Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: More consequences of bad IP law I want my PFS: Professional Write back…. *From:* David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:53 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: More consequences

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2009-08-12 Thread Kurt Buff
Microsoft can't sell Word anymore? i4i is a notorious patent troll, and East Texas is notorious for bad juries in cases like this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8197990.stm ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

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2009-08-12 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 12 Aug 2009 at 12:16, Kurt Buff wrote: Microsoft can't sell Word anymore? i4i is a notorious patent troll, and East Texas is notorious for bad juries in cases like this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8197990.stm I imagine OpenOffice.org will also take a hit here, as they use

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2009-08-12 Thread Jonathan Link
Is there money in that? On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.comwrote: On 12 Aug 2009 at 12:16, Kurt Buff wrote: Microsoft can't sell Word anymore? i4i is a notorious patent troll, and East Texas is notorious for bad juries in cases like this:

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2009-08-12 Thread David W. McSpadden
Who would they sue? - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:37 PM Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law Is there money in that? On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu

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2009-08-12 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
The article I read earlier today was from InformationWeek. They said that investors aren't phased by this (stock was even up) because they expect this case to get overturned at a higher court. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft can't sell Word

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2009-08-12 Thread Michael Hoffman
Would the court have to hand write their documents in this case or can they still use Word? Mike From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 August 2009 20:45 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law The article I read earlier today was from

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2009-08-12 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
would not be too concerned. TVK From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law The article I read earlier today was from InformationWeek. They said that investors aren't phased

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2009-08-12 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 12 August 2009 20:45 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: More consequences of bad IP law The article I read earlier today was from InformationWeek. They said that investors aren't phased by this (stock was even up) because they expect

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2009-08-12 Thread Steven M. Caesare
: 12 August 2009 20:45 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law The article I read earlier today was from InformationWeek. They said that investors aren't phased by this (stock was even up) because they expect this case to get overturned at a higher court

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2009-08-12 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 12 Aug 2009 at 14:53, Tim Vander Kooi wrote: They also don´t mention specifics regarding the type of XML included. As it states here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2003_XML_formats the underlying XML changed between Office 2003 and Office 2007. If the lawsuit only applies

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2009-08-12 Thread Erik Goldoff
12, 2009 4:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law They'd just happily continue using WordPerfect. -sc On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Michael Hoffman m...@drumbrae.net wrote: Would the court have to hand write their documents in this case or can

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2009-08-12 Thread Ben Schorr
Association - 01473703 Author: The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007: http://tinyurl.com/ol4law-amazon From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law IMNSHO WordPerfect

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2009-08-12 Thread Andrew S. Baker
10:32 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: More consequences of bad IP law IMNSHO WordPerfect was a superior word processor application before Microsoft's marketing agression stomped on them to get Word market share Erik Goldoff *IT Consultant* *Systems, Networks, Security

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2009-08-12 Thread Erik Goldoff
:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law Actually it was a superior word processor application until Microsoft Windows 3.x ushered in the era of Windows-based applications and the first Windows versions of WordPerfect were absolutely dreadful. WordPerfect

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2009-08-12 Thread Ben Schorr
...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law +2 -ASB On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Ben Schorr b...@rolandschorr.com wrote: Actually it was a superior word processor application until Microsoft Windows 3.x

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2009-08-12 Thread Ben Schorr
: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law the *first* port of WP to windows was a push to GUI and WYSIWYG ... but even the Corel Suite with WP8 was better than Word in my opinion

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2009-08-12 Thread Tom Miller
Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law the *first* port of WP to windows was a push to GUI and WYSIWYG ... but even the Corel Suite with WP8 was better than Word in my opinion ... and I *still* miss the Reveal Codes feature * maybe I disliked Word because it was so different from WP

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2009-08-12 Thread Ben Schorr
, 2009 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law You can do reveal codes in Word. It's odd but I've done it. I'd have to dig up my notes to figure out how I did that. I don't recall it being a basic setting. Ben Schorr b...@rolandschorr.com 8/12/2009 4

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2009-08-12 Thread RAY ZORZ
To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law You can do reveal codes in Word. It's odd but I've done it. I'd have to dig up my notes to figure out how I did that. I don't recall it being a basic setting. Ben Schorr b...@rolandschorr.com 8/12/2009 4:59 PM Maybe

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2009-08-12 Thread Erik Goldoff
Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law SHIFT+F1 reveals formatting in Word. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ b...@rolandschorr.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil

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2009-08-12 Thread Ben Schorr
Author: The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007: http://tinyurl.com/ol4law-amazon -Original Message- From: RAY ZORZ [mailto:rz...@azcorrections.gov] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law I worked in legal

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2009-08-12 Thread Ben Schorr
Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law just not the same level of detail, and not inline where you can edit the *code* as it sits ... Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems

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2009-08-12 Thread Steven M. Caesare
: RE: More consequences of bad IP law IMNSHO WordPerfect was a superior word processor application before Microsoft's marketing agression stomped on them to get Word market share Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security From

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2009-08-12 Thread Kurt Buff
Yeah, I expect that too, but a smaller company would have a much harder time fighting this. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:45, Rob Bonfigliorobbonfig...@gmail.com wrote: The article I read earlier today was from InformationWeek.  They said that investors aren't phased by this (stock was even up)