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2009-08-14 Thread Jon Harris
Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant I feel your pain, but it could be worse you mentioned unemployment... let me offer you another 'worse' - state employment. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: I know I’m not going to get

Re: OT: Salary rant

2009-08-14 Thread Jon Harris
: Salary rant I feel your pain, but it could be worse you mentioned unemployment... let me offer you another 'worse' - state employment. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: I know I’m not going to get a any sympathy here, due

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2009-08-13 Thread Owens, Michael
Hey! From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant I feel your pain, but it could be worse you mentioned unemployment... let me offer you another

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2009-08-12 Thread Ziots, Edward
, Security +, Network + ezi...@lifespan.org Phone:401-639-3505 From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant Guess I shouldn't complain about our 1% raise company

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2009-08-12 Thread Chipshead
MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + ezi...@lifespan.org Phone:401-639-3505 From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant Guess I shouldn't complain about our 1% raise company

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2009-08-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul
And speaking of biting, keep in mind that rants on the internet can have a way of coming back and biting you... From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Well

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2009-08-12 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
you... -- *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:49 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant Well put, nice words Andy. (And others). They might be lowballing to find someone serious about

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2009-08-12 Thread John Aldrich
Really… I got a 20% pay CUT around October/November last year. L John-AldrichTile-Tools From: asbz...@gmail.com [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant No, you really shouldn't. :) Sent from my Verizon

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2009-08-12 Thread Erik Goldoff
[mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant I have to laugh at the irony of this discussion. Hey Kim, have you heard the radio advertisements for this place? http://mycomputercareer.com/ I wish I could record

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2009-08-12 Thread John Cook
...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant You're not alone ... here in the ATL there's an ad for a similar IT training ( can't remember the name right now ) that claims in the IT field, Unlimited Career Potential

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2009-08-12 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant I have to laugh at the irony of this discussion. Hey Kim, have you heard the radio advertisements for this place? http://mycomputercareer.com/ I wish I could record the audio of this radio ad so yall could hear it. Basically they are saying that even

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2009-08-12 Thread Christopher Bodnar
System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Do I hear banjo music? _ From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant No, I've missed it, Sherry. Every since I got my

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2009-08-12 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:47 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant I have to laugh at the irony of this discussion. Hey Kim, have you heard the radio advertisements for this place? http://mycomputercareer.com/ I wish I could record the audio of this radio ad so

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2009-08-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul
NPR From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant LOL, well, all I listen to in my car is my satellite radio, but I like to listen to a local radio station

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2009-08-12 Thread Bill Lambert
...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant NPR From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant

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2009-08-12 Thread Bill Lambert
I mean OReilly Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant I listen to NPR too...I like/hate listening to the bias and filtering on our

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2009-08-12 Thread Andy Shook
+1 Shook From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant If you're lucky! From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12

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2009-08-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul
No... I don't think so. I stay away from the Cahulawassee River. :-) From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant If you're lucky

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2009-08-12 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
However, you don't seem to avoid stereotypes quite so assiduously, I see. :-) From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant No... I don't think so. I

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2009-08-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul
touche' From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant However, you don't seem to avoid stereotypes quite so assiduously, I see

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2009-08-12 Thread Ziots, Edward
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant You're not alone ... here in the ATL there's an ad for a similar IT training ( can't remember the name right now ) that claims in the IT field

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2009-08-12 Thread John Aldrich
No, I think you got it right the first time. :-P John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant I mean OReilly.. Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From

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2009-08-12 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:49 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant Well put, nice words Andy. (And others). They might be lowballing to find someone serious about the position, not the paycheck. If you bite, they may make it worth your while if you

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2009-08-12 Thread Scott Williamson
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:34:23 AM Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant I agree, right now, a lot if not most companies are “bleeding a nickel” when it comes to getting maximum productivity out of workers, on top of reducing costs any and every way they can. I

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2009-08-12 Thread Vicky Spelshaus
that. -- *From:* Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:34:23 AM *Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant I agree, right now, a lot if not most companies are “bleeding

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2009-08-12 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
have not experienced that. -- *From:* Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:34:23 AM *Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant I agree, right now, a lot if not most

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2009-08-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul
How about those salary surveys in the trade rags? From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant Yup, what Vicky said. I've read too many stories like

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2009-08-12 Thread Bob Fronk
] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant How about those salary surveys in the trade rags? From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues

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2009-08-12 Thread Erik Goldoff
: RE: OT: Salary rant How about those salary surveys in the trade rags? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~

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2009-08-12 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant Yup, what Vicky said. I've read too many stories like yours Scott, so when I hear those radio ads, I KNOW it's not true and it just ticks me off actually that they are even doing it. But, like they are saying in their ad, stimulus money is availableand I

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2009-08-12 Thread Cameron Cooper
...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant Remember that when you look at averages for the US on a whole, you have to take into account the higher salaries available in the metro areas. I find that most of the salaries in the more

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2009-08-12 Thread Andrew S. Baker
*To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant Yup, what Vicky said. I've read too many stories like yours Scott, so when I hear those radio ads, I KNOW it's not true and it just ticks me off actually that they are even doing it. But, like they are saying in their ad, stimulus

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2009-08-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Yes, I know. And it all adds up to build unrealistic expectations. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant Remember that when you look at averages

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2009-08-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Become an air traffic controller. Less stress and better hours... From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant So for someone who is looking to move up

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2009-08-12 Thread Jon Harris
A+ Certified* Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:26 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant Remember that when you look at averages

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2009-08-12 Thread mse...@ont.com
, 12 Aug 2009 11:38:58 -0500 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant Yup, what Vicky said. I've read too many stories like yours Scott, so when I hear those radio ads, I KNOW it's not true and it just ticks me off actually that they are even doing it. But, like

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2009-08-12 Thread Richard Stovall
: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Become an air traffic controller. Less stress and better hours... From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:29 PM To: NT

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2009-08-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul
: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant AT the moment I would say stay out of it. Jon On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote: So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people

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2009-08-12 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people recommend? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA

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2009-08-12 Thread Jacob
Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people recommend? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA

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2009-08-12 Thread Jacob
And for those over 31 years old? From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Become an air traffic controller. Less stress and better hours... _ From: Cameron Cooper

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2009-08-12 Thread Richard Stovall
Stuck in IT I suppose... From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant And for those over 31 years old? From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009

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2009-08-12 Thread RAY ZORZ
it was to oursource jobs. Original Message: - From: Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:38:58 -0500 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant Yup, what Vicky said. I've read too many stories like yours Scott, so when I hear

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2009-08-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Bomb technician... Same deal, less stress and better hours. :-) From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant And for those over 31 years old? From

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2009-08-12 Thread Vicky Spelshaus
. Thankfully one company had realized what a bonehead move it was to oursource jobs. Original Message: - From: Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:38:58 -0500 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant Yup, what Vicky said

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2009-08-12 Thread Kurt Buff
System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant I have to laugh at the irony of this discussion.  Hey Kim, have you heard the radio advertisements for this place? http://mycomputercareer.com/ I wish I could record the audio of this radio ad so yall could hear it. Basically

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2009-08-12 Thread mse...@ont.com
Plastic Surgery. Original Message: - From: Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:29:22 -0500 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people recommend

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2009-08-12 Thread Richard Stovall
Canada? (If you're a Northern Hemisphere kinda person.) - From: Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:29:22 -0500 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do

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2009-08-12 Thread Kurt Buff
a Northern Hemisphere kinda person.) - From: Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:29:22 -0500 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people recommend

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2009-08-12 Thread Jonathan Link
.) - From: Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:29:22 -0500 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people recommend

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2009-08-12 Thread Christopher Bodnar
-Original Message- From: kurt.b...@gmail.com [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant North Dakota - unemployment rate is about 4%, and the State government is running a surplus, according to NPR/Marketplace

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2009-08-12 Thread John Aldrich
Yeah...but who wants to go work in North Dakota... I mean that place gets COLD! :-) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant North Dakota - unemployment rate

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2009-08-12 Thread David Lum
hurdles). Dave From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant From IT Director to ??? (CIO). MBA, Project Management??? There is a great book... The Executives Guide to Information Technology http

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2009-08-12 Thread Bill Lambert
I got the 3 cent'r Marge! Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 -Original Message- From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant I hear you can get a good deal on a used car

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2009-08-12 Thread Jonathan Link
...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant I hear you can get a good deal on a used car up there from Jerry Lundegaard. Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian

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2009-08-12 Thread Andrew S. Baker
...@excaliburfilms.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:13 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant From IT Director to ??? (CIO). MBA, Project Management??? There is a great book… “The Executives Guide to Information Technology” http://www.amazon.com/gp/product

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2009-08-12 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Yeah...but who wants to go work in North Dakota... I mean that place gets COLD! :-) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:22

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2009-08-12 Thread John Cook
2009 Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant It depends on the company and the industry as to whether or not you can be a senior technologist and still get your hands dirty. Some people want to, and some don't. -ASB On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:34 PM, David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org

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2009-08-12 Thread Cameron Cooper
: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant What do you do as IT Director? Kind of surprised that a director-level person would

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2009-08-12 Thread James Kerr
they structure things in non-profits it seems. James - Original Message - From: Cameron Cooper To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant We're a small company that has about 50 users, and I'm the only other IT person

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2009-08-12 Thread RAY ZORZ
:29:22 -0500 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people recommend? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc

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2009-08-12 Thread Steven M. Caesare
My gramma was from ND. Visited there twice. Between the stories and the visits, I'm with your wife. [1] -sc [1] Go ahead Shooky From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant

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2009-08-12 Thread Steve Ens
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people recommend? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847

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2009-08-12 Thread Steve Ens
and the visits, I’m with your wife. [1] -sc [1] Go ahead Shooky *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:28 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant Being born and raised in North Dakota, I can see myself

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2009-08-12 Thread N Parr
Hmmm, going up to visit friends in Minot. Maybe I'll just stay and enjoy the, um, well -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant North Dakota - unemployment rate

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2009-08-12 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Wow. My family is from Minot. Was there 2 years ago to bury my gramma. My 99 yr old great aunt still lives there. -sc -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant

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2009-08-12 Thread Jonathan Link
and the visits, I’m with your wife. [1] -sc [1] Go ahead Shooky *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:28 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant Being born and raised in North Dakota, I can see myself

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2009-08-12 Thread Peter van Houten
my gramma. My 99 yr old great aunt still lives there. -sc -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Hmmm, going up to visit friends in Minot. Maybe I'll just stay

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2009-08-11 Thread Christopher Bodnar
I know I’m not going to get a any sympathy here, due to the unemployment rate, and the economy in general, but needed to vent a little. Was hired as a contract to hire position last year. Great company, close to home, good salary. 6 months in they cut my salary by 10% to the contracting

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2009-08-11 Thread Vicky Spelshaus
I feel your pain, but it could be worse you mentioned unemployment... let me offer you another 'worse' - state employment. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: I know I’m not going to get a any sympathy here, due to the unemployment rate,

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2009-08-11 Thread Jonathan Link
A promise is only as good as a piece of paper signed by both parties (i.e. a contract) and sometimes not even then. Are you actually signing a contract for a specified term? Do you see any other prospects out there? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Christopher Bodnar

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2009-08-11 Thread Jacob
You could join the federal government's largest unemployment program. TSA! From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant I feel your pain, but it could be worse you

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2009-08-11 Thread Andy Shook
Chris, It's tough out there no doubt and I feel your pain, many of us that are employed are right there with you. Salary cuts, benefit cost increases, insurance coverage decreases, 401(k)s turning into 101(k)s, furloughs, FREAKIN' COMISSION PLAN RESTRUCTURES (I fell better). The cut sucks, I

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2009-08-11 Thread Erik Goldoff
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Chris, It's tough out there no doubt and I feel your pain, many of us that are employed are right there with you. Salary cuts, benefit cost increases, insurance coverage decreases, 401(k)s turning into 101(k)s, furloughs, FREAKIN' COMISSION PLAN RESTRUCTURES (I fell

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2009-08-11 Thread Sam Cayze
, August 11, 2009 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Chris, It's tough out there no doubt and I feel your pain, many of us that are employed are right there with you. Salary cuts, benefit cost increases, insurance coverage decreases, 401(k)s turning into 101(k)s

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2009-08-11 Thread James Kerr
Guess I shouldn't complain about our 1% raise company wide. - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:49 PM Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Well put, nice words Andy. (And others). They might be lowballing to find

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2009-08-11 Thread Jonathan Link
company wide. - Original Message - *From:* Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:49 PM *Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant Well put, nice words Andy. (And others). They might be lowballing

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2009-08-11 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
My advice is to take the sure thing right now. You can always keep looking. Also, look at Federal jobs. The gov't is always hiring! Heck, I got 3 e-mails today (granted they were from the same recruiter for the same job) for an Exchange admin in Maryland. But I'm sure the DC/VA/MD area is not

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2009-08-11 Thread asbzone
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant My advice is to take the sure thing right now. You can always keep looking. Also, look at Federal jobs. The gov't is always hiring! Heck, I got 3 e-mails today (granted they were from the same recruiter

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2009-08-11 Thread Doug Hampshire
, 2009 6:49 PM Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Well put, nice words Andy.  (And others). They might be lowballing to find someone serious about the position, not the paycheck.  If you bite, they may make it worth your while if you are committed. From: Andy Shook

Re: OT: Salary rant

2009-08-11 Thread asbzone
No, you really shouldn't. :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:16:54 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant Guess I shouldn't complain