Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant
I feel your pain, but it could be worse you mentioned unemployment...
let me offer you another 'worse' - state employment.
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Christopher Bodnar
christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote:
I know I’m not going to get
: Salary rant
I feel your pain, but it could be worse you mentioned unemployment...
let me offer you another 'worse' - state employment.
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Christopher Bodnar
christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote:
I know I’m not going to get a any sympathy here, due
Hey!
From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
I feel your pain, but it could be worse you mentioned unemployment... let
me offer you another
, Security +, Network +
ezi...@lifespan.org
Phone:401-639-3505
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
Guess I shouldn't complain about our 1% raise company
MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
ezi...@lifespan.org
Phone:401-639-3505
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
Guess I shouldn't complain about our 1% raise company
And speaking of biting, keep in mind that rants on the internet can have
a way of coming back and biting you...
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
Well
you...
--
*From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:49 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant
Well put, nice words Andy. (And others).
They might be lowballing to find someone serious about
Really
I got a 20% pay CUT around October/November last year. L
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: asbz...@gmail.com [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
No, you really shouldn't. :)
Sent from my Verizon
[mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
I have to laugh at the irony of this discussion. Hey Kim, have you heard
the radio advertisements for this place?
http://mycomputercareer.com/
I wish I could record
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
You're not alone ... here in the ATL there's an ad for a similar IT training (
can't remember the name right now ) that claims in the IT field, Unlimited
Career Potential
Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
I have to laugh at the irony of this discussion. Hey Kim, have you
heard the radio advertisements for this place?
http://mycomputercareer.com/
I wish I could record the audio of this radio ad so yall could hear it.
Basically they are saying that even
System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
Do I hear banjo music?
_
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
No, I've missed it, Sherry. Every since I got my
:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:47 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant
I have to laugh at the irony of this discussion. Hey Kim, have you heard
the radio advertisements for this place?
http://mycomputercareer.com/
I wish I could record the audio of this radio ad so
NPR
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
LOL, well, all I listen to in my car is my satellite radio, but I like
to listen to a local radio station
...@scvl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
NPR
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
I mean OReilly
Bill Lambert
Concuity
847-941-9206
From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
I listen to NPR too...I like/hate listening to the bias and filtering on
our
+1
Shook
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
If you're lucky!
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12
No... I don't think so. I stay away from the Cahulawassee River. :-)
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
If you're lucky
However, you don't seem to avoid stereotypes quite so assiduously, I
see. :-)
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
No... I don't think so. I
touche'
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
However, you don't seem to avoid stereotypes quite so assiduously, I
see
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
You're not alone ... here in the ATL there's an ad for a similar IT
training ( can't remember the name right now ) that claims in the IT
field
No, I think you got it right the first time. :-P
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
I mean OReilly..
Bill Lambert
Concuity
847-941-9206
From
]
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:49 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant
Well put, nice words Andy. (And others).
They might be lowballing to find someone serious about the position, not
the paycheck. If you bite, they may make it worth your while if you
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:34:23 AM
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
I agree, right now, a lot if not most
companies are “bleeding a nickel” when it comes to getting maximum productivity
out of workers, on top of reducing costs any and every way they can. I
that.
--
*From:* Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org
*To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:34:23 AM
*Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant
I agree, right now, a lot if not most companies are “bleeding
have not experienced that.
--
*From:* Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org
*To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:34:23 AM
*Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant
I agree, right now, a lot if not most
How about those salary surveys in the trade rags?
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
Yup, what Vicky said. I've read too many stories like
]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
How about those salary surveys in the trade rags?
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
: RE: OT: Salary rant
How about those salary surveys in the trade rags?
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*Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant
Yup, what Vicky said. I've read too many stories like yours Scott, so when
I hear those radio ads, I KNOW it's not true and it just ticks me off
actually that they are even doing it. But, like they are saying in their
ad, stimulus money is availableand I
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
Remember that when you look at averages for the US on a whole, you have
to take into account the higher salaries available in the metro areas.
I find that most of the salaries in the more
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant
Yup, what Vicky said. I've read too many stories like yours Scott, so when
I hear those radio ads, I KNOW it's not true and it just ticks me off
actually that they are even doing it. But, like they are saying in their
ad, stimulus
Yes, I know. And it all adds up to build unrealistic expectations.
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
Remember that when you look at averages
Become an air traffic controller. Less stress and better hours...
From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
So for someone who is looking to move up
A+ Certified*
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com
*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:26 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant
Remember that when you look at averages
, 12 Aug 2009 11:38:58 -0500
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
Yup, what Vicky said. I've read too many stories like yours Scott, so when
I hear those radio ads, I KNOW it's not true and it just ticks me off
actually that they are even doing it. But, like
: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
Become an air traffic controller. Less stress and better hours...
From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:29 PM
To: NT
: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
AT the moment I would say stay out of it.
Jon
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com
wrote:
So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what
do people
: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people
recommend?
_
Cameron Cooper
IT Director - CompTIA
Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people
recommend?
_
Cameron Cooper
IT Director - CompTIA
And for those over 31 years old?
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
Become an air traffic controller. Less stress and better hours...
_
From: Cameron Cooper
Stuck in IT I suppose...
From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
And for those over 31 years old?
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009
it was to oursource jobs.
Original Message:
-
From: Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:38:58 -0500
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
Yup, what Vicky said. I've read too many stories like yours Scott, so
when
I hear
Bomb technician... Same deal, less stress and better hours. :-)
From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
And for those over 31 years old?
From
. Thankfully one
company
had realized what a bonehead move it was to oursource jobs.
Original Message:
-
From: Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:38:58 -0500
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
Yup, what Vicky said
System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
I have to laugh at the irony of this discussion. Hey Kim, have you heard
the radio advertisements for this place?
http://mycomputercareer.com/
I wish I could record the audio of this radio ad so yall could hear it.
Basically
Plastic Surgery.
Original Message:
-
From: Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:29:22 -0500
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people
recommend
Canada? (If you're a Northern Hemisphere kinda person.)
-
From: Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:29:22 -0500
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do
a Northern Hemisphere kinda person.)
-
From: Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:29:22 -0500
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people
recommend
.)
-
From: Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:29:22 -0500
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people
recommend
-Original Message-
From: kurt.b...@gmail.com [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
North Dakota - unemployment rate is about 4%, and the State government
is running a surplus, according to NPR/Marketplace
Yeah...but who wants to go work in North Dakota... I mean that place gets COLD!
:-)
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
North Dakota - unemployment rate
hurdles).
Dave
From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
From IT Director to ??? (CIO).
MBA, Project Management???
There is a great book... The Executives Guide to Information Technology
http
I got the 3 cent'r Marge!
Bill Lambert
Concuity
847-941-9206
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
I hear you can get a good deal on a used car
...@glic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
I hear you can get a good deal on a used car up there from Jerry
Lundegaard.
Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian
...@excaliburfilms.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:13 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant
From IT Director to ??? (CIO).
MBA, Project Management???
There is a great book… “The Executives Guide to Information Technology”
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product
]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
Yeah...but who wants to go work in North Dakota... I mean that place gets COLD!
:-)
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:22
2009
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
It depends on the company and the industry as to whether or not you can be a
senior technologist and still get your hands dirty.
Some people want to, and some don't.
-ASB
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:34 PM, David Lum
david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org
: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
What do you do as IT Director? Kind of surprised that a director-level person
would
they structure
things in non-profits it seems.
James
- Original Message -
From: Cameron Cooper
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
We're a small company that has about 50 users, and I'm the only other IT
person
:29:22 -0500
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people
recommend?
_
Cameron Cooper
IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
My gramma was from ND. Visited there twice. Between the stories and the
visits, I'm with your wife. [1]
-sc
[1] Go ahead Shooky
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
So for someone who is looking to move up in the IT field, what do people
recommend?
_
Cameron Cooper
IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847
and the
visits, I’m with your wife. [1]
-sc
[1] Go ahead Shooky
*From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:28 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant
Being born and raised in North Dakota, I can see myself
Hmmm, going up to visit friends in Minot. Maybe I'll just stay and enjoy the,
um, well
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
North Dakota - unemployment rate
Wow. My family is from Minot. Was there 2 years ago to bury my gramma. My 99 yr
old great aunt still lives there.
-sc
-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
and the
visits, I’m with your wife. [1]
-sc
[1] Go ahead Shooky
*From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:28 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT: Salary rant
Being born and raised in North Dakota, I can see myself
my gramma. My 99 yr
old great aunt still lives there.
-sc
-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
Hmmm, going up to visit friends in Minot. Maybe I'll just stay
I know I’m not going to get a any sympathy here, due to the unemployment rate,
and the economy in general, but needed to vent a little. Was hired as a
contract to hire position last year. Great company, close to home, good salary.
6 months in they cut my salary by 10% to the contracting
I feel your pain, but it could be worse you mentioned unemployment...
let me offer you another 'worse' - state employment.
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Christopher Bodnar
christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote:
I know I’m not going to get a any sympathy here, due to the unemployment
rate,
A promise is only as good as a piece of paper signed by both parties (i.e. a
contract) and sometimes not even then.
Are you actually signing a contract for a specified term? Do you see any
other prospects out there?
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Christopher Bodnar
You could join the federal government's largest unemployment program. TSA!
From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
I feel your pain, but it could be worse you
Chris,
It's tough out there no doubt and I feel your pain, many of us that are
employed are right there with you. Salary cuts, benefit cost increases,
insurance coverage decreases, 401(k)s turning into 101(k)s, furloughs, FREAKIN'
COMISSION PLAN RESTRUCTURES (I fell better). The cut sucks, I
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
Chris,
It's tough out there no doubt and I feel your pain, many of us that are
employed are right there with you. Salary cuts, benefit cost increases,
insurance coverage decreases, 401(k)s turning into 101(k)s, furloughs,
FREAKIN' COMISSION PLAN RESTRUCTURES (I fell
, August 11, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
Chris,
It's tough out there no doubt and I feel your pain, many of us that are
employed are right there with you. Salary cuts, benefit cost increases,
insurance coverage decreases, 401(k)s turning into 101(k)s
Guess I shouldn't complain about our 1% raise company wide.
- Original Message -
From: Sam Cayze
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:49 PM
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
Well put, nice words Andy. (And others).
They might be lowballing to find
company wide.
- Original Message -
*From:* Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com
*To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:49 PM
*Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant
Well put, nice words Andy. (And others).
They might be lowballing
My advice is to take the sure thing right now. You can always keep looking.
Also, look at Federal jobs. The gov't is always hiring! Heck, I got 3
e-mails today (granted they were from the same recruiter for the same job)
for an Exchange admin in Maryland. But I'm sure the DC/VA/MD area is not
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
My advice is to take the sure thing right now. You can always keep looking.
Also, look at Federal jobs. The gov't is always hiring! Heck, I got 3
e-mails today (granted they were from the same recruiter
, 2009 6:49 PM
Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
Well put, nice words Andy. (And others).
They might be lowballing to find someone serious about the position, not the
paycheck. If you bite, they may make it worth your while if you are
committed.
From: Andy Shook
No, you really shouldn't. :)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:16:54
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant
Guess I shouldn't complain
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