, October 10, 2011 9:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Alan Davies adav...@cls-services.com wrote:
Why on earth would you encourage users not to use IE!? Again, FUD
mostly - IE is one of, if not the most secure browser out
and our inability to be proactive without
pain etc...
-Marc
-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: AV and malware protection?
Agree wholeheartedly for the majority of threats
...
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From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: 11 October 2011 21:22
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Alan Davies adav...@cls-services.com wrote:
A ... that must be like in Spooks where
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Alan Davies adav...@cls-services.comwrote:
Mind you, we still haven't figured out how to bind an iBook to an alien
spacecraft like your lot ...
Somewhere there is a vendor who has a class on how that is done. We're not
allowed to teach it outside the US.
~
At home, I'm running the following:
*Host-based Security:*
- Avira (free) on most desktop/laptop systems
- MSE on one laptop
- VIPRE on one desktop
- ClamAV on one server (Most of my servers are not running any
AV/AntiMalware)
- UAC on all systems
- Firewall disabled on LAN
.
a
From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:mmaiff...@eeye.com]
Sent: 11 October 2011 01:28
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: AV and malware protection?
The reality is that most IT environments are all using one of the 2-4 popular
AV products. One of the 5-6 popular network
of AV that came from the OEM!
a
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From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: 11 October 2011 05:36
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 21:01, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
Now,
I regard ActiveX
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To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 21:01, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
Now,
I regard ActiveX as a really bad idea to begin with -- allowing a web
page to push binary executables to my PC is *not* a good idea, IMO
!
a
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: 11 October 2011 05:36
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 21:01, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
Now,
I regard ActiveX as a really bad idea to begin
than diligence as headcount was cut.
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: AV and malware protection?
Agree wholeheartedly for the majority of threats. The only exception I'd
make
reference to BBC spy series Spooks for those scratching their
heads!]
a
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: 11 October 2011 12:36
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
snip
and for the layperson, I liken
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Alan Davies adav...@cls-services.com wrote:
A ... that must be like in Spooks where they search their master
criminal mugshot collection via a terminal that graphically displays every
mugshot they're comparing to one by one .. really quickly!
[UK reference
I use trendmicro titanium maximum security at home have done for years and I
have had no issues , product or virus wise. It also comes with some
additonal features like safesync (dropbox alternative)
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Eric Brouwer ithelp.e...@gmail.com wrote:
If you had to secure
browsers all managed well equal a fairly
level playing ground.
a
From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
Sent: 07 October 2011 19:50
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: AV and malware protection?
I have seen exploits on systems with just
doesn't like my hardware
and blue screens on XP, Vista and Win7; 32 or 64bit!
a
-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: 08 October 2011 05:14
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
On 7 Oct 2011 at 9:34, John Hornbuckle
individually, as does
the concept of code running only in memory, rather than just files.
a
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From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 09 October 2011 19:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
We are just going to continue
/#!/marcmaiffret
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: AV and malware protection?
Huge +1 to that. Anyone who says product x is the best, is, at best, correct
for a short period of time! All AV is poor - I
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Alan Davies adav...@cls-services.com wrote:
Why on earth would you encourage users not to use IE!? Again, FUD mostly -
IE is one of, if not the most secure browser out there out of the box.
While I haven't seen MSIE 9 yet, I know MSIE 8 still had what I
would
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 21:01, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
Now,
I regard ActiveX as a really bad idea to begin with -- allowing a web
page to push binary executables to my PC is *not* a good idea, IMO,
Java, too.
and I think history would support me on this one -- but if
Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
I would trust Malwarebytes over a traditional a product. I wouldnt trust MSE
what-so-ever. I've seen web-based drive by exploits absolutely destroy it.
If I was going to couple with an AV product, I'd use Kaspersky primarily, with
ESET as a secondary
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Alex Eckelberry
alex.eckelbe...@gfi.com wrote:
It’s worth noting that MalwareBytes is not an antivirus product. It is,
however, an excellent protecter/cleaner against modern Trojans and rogue
antivirus products.
And the difference between these two things
. It
is, however, an excellent protecter/cleaner against modern Trojans and rogue
antivirus products.
*From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, October 07, 2011 1:20 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: AV and malware protection?
I would
+1
--
Espi
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
And the difference between these two things is...?
Viruses are largely obsolete anyway. Between ubiquitous network
connectivity and autorun, nobody needs to bother. Today's injection
vectors are
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issue
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Alex Eckelberry alex.eckelbe...@gfi.com
wrote:
It's worth noting that MalwareBytes is not an antivirus product.
It is, however, an excellent protecter
..
Tammy
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Alex Eckelberry
alex.eckelbe...@gfi.com wrote:
Its worth noting
Eckelberry alex.eckelbe...@gfi.com
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:55:58
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: AV and malware protection?
Hmmm Take a look at the Wildlist, which is the list
-software.comSubject: RE: AV and malware protection?
Hmmm Take a look at the Wildlist, which is the list of currently
verified viruses. There's still a lot of nasty stuff out there.
http://www.wildlist.org/WildList/201108.txt
We see plenty of viruses out there, and relying on a product like
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From: Harry Singh hbo...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 14:32:16
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: AV and malware protection?
What's the name of the sleeping AV component
, 2011 1:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
What's the name of the sleeping AV component?
This thread is of particular interest since I'm plannning to pilot a
VDI deployment and a few engineers have mentioned the need to not have
local AV protection any longer
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
I don't trust MSE, as it requires Automatic Updates
I do the same on several home machines and it has worked well for me.
- Original Message -
From: John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 9:34:08 AM
Subject: RE: AV and malware
I just use Microsoft Security Essentials. Seems to work well enough for me. Or
am I naïve?
John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:ithelp.e...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 07,
I use Avast at home backed up with MalwareBytes, and browse the Internet
using Firefox with WOT and NoScript, finally there's Secunia PSI to keep all
my software up-to-date
Using a limited account probably helps loads too
On 7 October 2011 14:31, Eric Brouwer ithelp.e...@gmail.com wrote:
If
For my Windows 7 Pro machines at home I use VIPRE Premium behind a Netgear
N600 router. I'm very satisfied with VIPRE's level of protection.
Roger Wright
___
My short term goal is to make it through the day.
My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together.
On Fri, Oct
I used Avast in the past, but seems to have gotten bloated and
resource-y. Now I use MS security essentials and have been fine with it.
Bill
Eric Brouwer wrote:
If you had to secure your own personal computer at home (Windows 7),
what AV, firewall, malware protection would you install?
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Eric Brouwer ithelp.e...@gmail.com wrote:
If you had to secure your own personal computer at home (Windows 7),
what AV, firewall, malware protection would you install?
I run Linux at home. ;-)
But I do have a Wintendo box running XP. I use the built-in
Vipre, home network version. $50, covers all the computers in the house.
Windows Firewall, behind a DD-WRT firewall. DNS is OpenDNS.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Eric Brouwer ithelp.e...@gmail.com wrote:
If you had to secure your own personal computer at home (Windows 7),
what AV,
Microsoft Security Essentials.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Eric Brouwer ithelp.e...@gmail.com wrote:
If you had to secure your own personal computer at home (Windows 7),
what AV, firewall, malware protection would you install?
Thanks!
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a
Microsoft Security Essentials, ZoneAlarm, MalwareBytes. UpdateChecker runs at
startup and I check Secunia probably once a week.
Shauna Hensala
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 09:31:28 -0400
Subject: AV and malware protection?
From: ithelp.e...@gmail.com
To:
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/rap-index.xml
Best free software in that chart - Avira Free.
For paid, I'd go with Kaspersky Pure or Avira Pro.
Based on the chart position of MSSE, I don't think I'd rely on it. At least
ForeFront does better, which is odd b/c doesn't it use the same
I would trust Malwarebytes over a traditional a product. I wouldnt trust
MSE what-so-ever. I've seen web-based drive by exploits absolutely destroy
it.
If I was going to couple with an AV product, I'd use Kaspersky primarily,
with ESET as a secondary choice.
--
Espi
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at
over the past few years.
Maybe MSE works well for me because it never has to do anything. :)
John
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
I would trust Malwarebytes
well for me because it never has to do anything. :)
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John
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*From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, October 07, 2011 1:20 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: AV and malware protection?
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I would
years.
Maybe MSE works well for me because it never has to do anything. :)
John
From: Micheal Espinola Jr
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
I would
That surprises me, because honestly I've heard that MSE is a pretty solid
product.
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
Yep, the current version. From what I have
Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, October 07, 2011 1:26 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: AV and malware protection?
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Yep, the current version. From what I have seen done to it by web-based
exploit infections, I would classify the product
: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
Yep, the current version. From what I have seen done to it by web-based
exploit infections, I would classify the product as a joke.
I
I'd be interested in checking it out if you've got the ip handy.
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
No specific sites... well, actually I /can/ get the IP of one
What I use...
Nod32
Juniper Netscreen 5
Malwarebytes
-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:ithelp.e...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 6:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: AV and malware protection?
If you had to secure your own personal computer at home
** **
*From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, October 07, 2011 11:26 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: AV and malware protection?
** **
Yep, the current version. From what I have seen done to it by web-based
exploit infections, I would
!
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 6:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
I use Avast at home backed up with MalwareBytes, and browse the Internet
using Firefox with WOT and NoScript, finally there's Secunia PSI
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: AV and malware protection?
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No specific sites... well, actually I /can/ get the IP of one of the
sites. The drive-by added bogus google and bing entries to the hosts file
in an effort to have another vector on system [re]infection
over), said the
Vipre f/w standalone was not going to be supported at the end of 2011 but
offered me a free upgrade. So, I got rid of Avast, upgraded and found out I
didn't have to renew until Oct. 2012.
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 10:27:40 -0400
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?
From: jonathan.l
The router is my firewall. For all my 'family support' I mandate Windows 7
and MS Security Essentials. I have had no virus issues in 2 years on any of
the 'family systems'.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Eric Brouwer ithelp.e...@gmail.com wrote:
If you had to secure your own personal
+1 I moved from AVAST a couple of years ago when my wife got hit twice with
viruses within 30 days while running AVAST. So far so good.
Jon
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:34 AM, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
I just use Microsoft Security Essentials. Seems to work well
On 7 Oct 2011 at 11:49, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote:
No specific sites... well, actually I /can/ get the IP of one of the
sites. The drive-by added bogus google and bing entries to the hosts
file in an effort to have another vector on system [re]infection.
Malwarebytes promptly blocks
On 7 Oct 2011 at 9:34, John Hornbuckle wrote:
I just use Microsoft Security Essentials. Seems to work well enough for me. Or
am I naïve?
I don't trust MSE, as it requires Automatic Updates to update itself and I
don't let AU run on my systems. Microsoft has slipped to many things like
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