Re: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread Christopher Bodnar
Big difference. If the Management server resides on the internal LAN, and it gets hacked, it has direct access to the LAN. If it resides on a DMZ, and gets hacked, it only has direct access to other machines on the same DMZ subnet, it is isolated from the Internal LAN. Depending on the

RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread Ziots, Edward
I will make some assumptions. 1) You have allowed the port forwarding through the firewall ( therefore no inspection into the traffic to truly determine if it is what it proports to be) 2) If I can compromise the box in the DMZ, then I can use this to push into the Internal network

RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread Kennedy, Jim
To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ Big difference. If the Management server resides on the internal LAN, and it gets hacked, it has direct access to the LAN. If it resides on a DMZ, and gets hacked, it only has direct access to other machines on the same

Re: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread Kurt Buff
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:22 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: What’s the risk difference between a server in a DMZ (firewalls on each end) and port forwarding from the Internet to a machine inside a network perimeter? Scenario : I have PC’s that use port to talk to a management

RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread David Lum
: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:22 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: What’s the risk difference between a server in a DMZ (firewalls on each end) and port forwarding from the Internet to a machine inside a network perimeter? Scenario : I have PC’s

RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread Webster
And you make swiss cheese of your firewall. Thanks Webster -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ I'll make another sweeping

RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread Kennedy, Jim
And no longer have a DMZ by my definition. You just have another subnet for your domain. -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ And you

RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Put an SSL reverse proxy in the DMZ and tunnel that to the RDS Gateway -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ I'll make another sweeping

RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread David Lum
Correct. How does Citrix handle this? Member server in the DMZ yes? -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ And you make swiss cheese

Re: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread Kurt Buff
To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:22 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: What’s the risk difference between a server in a DMZ (firewalls on each end) and port forwarding from the Internet to a machine inside a network

RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread Ziots, Edward
, March 14, 2013 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ Section 2.2 says This is a more secure approach because an attacker has to break both firewalls in order to get to the internal network. This is incorrect. All he has to do is subvert

RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread Webster
[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ Correct. How does Citrix handle this? Member server in the DMZ yes? -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent

RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
+1 -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ Put an SSL reverse proxy in the DMZ and tunnel that to the RDS Gateway -Original

RE: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread Ken Schaefer
, and simply subverting the DMZ host doesn't give you any access to anything internally. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 15 March 2013 6:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ Section 2.2

Re: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ

2013-03-14 Thread Kurt Buff
- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 15 March 2013 6:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Difference between port forwarding and DMZ Section 2.2 says This is a more secure approach because an attacker has to break both firewalls in order to get to the internal