RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-15 Thread Steven M. Caesare
And if they are SSD's... -sc From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes It isn't impressive. I've got 250 GB of Rainbow Tables. I am surely

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Ken Schaefer
Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Sounds impressive. Mind telling us what software you are using? Murray From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Ken Schaefer
need to logon to a non-Windows system where the credentials are synchronised. Etc. Cheers Ken From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 3:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes What character set

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Crawford, Scott
Schaefer [k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 2:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Pass-the-hash is only useful /if/ you have a system that also accepts the same hash. You still need to derive the original password if you want

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Andrew S. Baker
:* Friday, 11 February 2011 5:17 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes It isn’t impressive. I’ve got 250 GB of Rainbow Tables. I am surely not the only one. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Andrew S. Baker
] *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:08 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Anything under 15 characters I can crack in under 5 minutes. Anything. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Point taken. Why can't everyone just be honest so we can do away with passwords all together? ;) Not to go off topic...(which means I'm about to)...but it's staggering how many resources are spent combating dishonesty

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Ziots, Edward
, 2011 2:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes We've been giving people laptops for years. They typically have even more data on them than phones. Why aren't you railing against that? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward

Re: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 2:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes We've been

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:49 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: One method is to take acronyms from your favorite hobby and string them together ... This is a valid and good technique for generating a longer password. However, one must remain aware that human language is has **VERY

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: What character set are you looking at here? Assuming the 256 ASCII chars ... There aren't 256 ASCII characters. ASCII is a 7-bit code, some of the characters are unprintable, and the printable control characters are

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: [1] I did some research on this way back when. See this link for an overview. If you'd like the zip file referenced, I can get you a copy. http://www.sysopt.com/tutorials/article.php/3532756 P.S.: Cracking tools

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Crawford, Scott
: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Um... That's not exactly how rainbow tables work. They're not simply a full list of the hashes of every possible password, although that is certainly one inefficient way to go

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Crawford, Scott
] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: What character set are you looking at here? Assuming the 256 ASCII chars ... There aren't

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Ken Schaefer
February 2011 6:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes I think that this came up because we were at the physical access part of the discussion. There continues to be hope for those who managed to keep physical security intact... ASB (Find me

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-11 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: I’m still kinda confused. The post way back at the beginning of the thread is talking about device encryption. Typically whole disk encryption doesn’t use a 15 character password – but rather a somewhat longer encryption

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Jonathan Link
Um wow. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:40 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: What I don’t know is if this phone OS is any worse than anything else in use. Anyone care to comment?: “Among passwords that could be revealed were those for Google Mail as an MS Exchange account, other MS

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread S Powell
two words. remote wipe. Yep, big security issue, but if someone has physical control of your device, any device, you should always consider it compromised. @THIS STATMENT IS VERIFIABLY INCORRECT On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 08:40, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: What I don’t know is if

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Graeme Carstairs
Yeh but remember if you hook and android up to an PC, you can access their passwords even easier than that. You have to have physical access to the device and physical access to any device means you can pretty much access anything any way, unless encrypted, and as far as I am aware no phone has a

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:40 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: What I don’t know is if this phone OS is any worse than anything else in use. Anyone care to comment?: From TFA: ... requires possession of the phone ... Okay, so, first rule of computer security is, if someone else has

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:10 PM, S Powell powe...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, big security issue, but if someone has physical control of your device, any device,  you should always consider it compromised. If data is encrypted with strong crypto, and that crypto's secret key is not stored on the

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Ames Matthew B
Not having used an iPhone, but if the SIM was removed from the device, would that not disable the ability to perform a remote wipe? -Original Message- From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 February 2011 17:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Paul Hutchings
Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes two words. remote wipe. Yep, big security issue, but if someone has physical control of your device, any device, you should always consider it compromised. @THIS STATMENT IS VERIFIABLY INCORRECT On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 08:40

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread William Robbins
been compromised in 5 minutes) -Original Message- From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 February 2011 17:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes two words. remote wipe. Yep, big security issue, but if someone has

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Matthew W. Ross
Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:17:29 -0800 Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:10 PM, S Powell powe...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, big security issue, but if someone has physical control of your device

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread William Robbins
? -Original Message- From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 February 2011 17:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes two words. remote wipe. Yep, big security issue, but if someone has physical control of your device, any

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Martin Blackstone
All BB traffic is encrypted by default. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes The big if on Berry's is Encryption has to be turned

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread William Robbins
[mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:31 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes The big *if *on Berry's is Encryption has to be turned on. :) - WJR On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:25, Paul Hutchings

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Gary Slinger
-software.comSubject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes All BB traffic is encrypted by default. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Martin Blackstone
You are correct. The device is not encrypted. Just the traffic. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes But that's just net traffic to and fro

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread William Robbins
*Subject:* Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes But that's just net traffic to and fro correct? I thought we were discussing encryption on the device itself, which is not on by default. - WJR On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:32, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com wrote: All BB

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Andrew S. Baker
wipe? -Original Message- From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 February 2011 17:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes two words. remote wipe. Yep, big security issue, but if someone has physical control of your

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Paul Hutchings
Oh of course, let's assume corporate so set by BES policy etc. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 February 2011 17:31 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes The big if on Berry's is Encryption has to be turned

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread William Robbins
, but if the SIM was removed from the device, would that not disable the ability to perform a remote wipe? -Original Message- From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 February 2011 17:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes two

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Andrew S. Baker
, 10 Feb 2011 09:17:29 -0800 Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:10 PM, S Powell powe...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, big security issue, but if someone has physical control of your device, any device, you should always consider it compromised

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote:   If data is encrypted with strong crypto, and that crypto's secret key is not stored on the device, then that data can generally be considered safe even if the device is stolen.   In English, that means if the

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Don Ely
I must not be human... Most of my high security accounts have passwords of 20+ random characters and I have them memorized... On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: If data

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread David Lum
acronym's. My $0.02 Dave From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes I must not be human... Most of my high security accounts have passwords of 20+ random characters and I

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread William Robbins
you go to a website that gives you something dumb like 12character maximum, in which case use the hobby acronym’s. My $0.02 Dave *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:29 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: IPhone attack reveals

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Ziots, Edward
[mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes You are correct. The device is not encrypted. Just the traffic. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Ben Schorr
://www.rolandschorr.com/ b...@rolandschorr.com mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:07 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes This is why you expect company

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Ziots, Edward
[mailto:powe...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes two words. remote wipe. Yep, big security issue, but if someone has physical control of your device, any device, you should always consider

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Ziots, Edward
Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes If data

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread John Cook
Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes two words. remote wipe. Yep, big security issue, but if someone has physical control of your device, any device, you should always

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread John Cook
: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes No doubt, but the PHBs want their shiny toys. Security is like insurance. Everybody thinks they have too much of it until they discover they have too little. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Ziots, Edward
Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes two words. remote wipe. Yep, big security issue, but if someone has physical control of your device, any device, you should always

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread John Cook
Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thu Feb 10 14:33:23 2011 Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes John, but you know how much users, follow directions, =0, we been in this game far too long to know better. Its basically trying to stop stupid, but even trying

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Ziots, Edward
Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes We all know you can't solve stupid

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread William Robbins
Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes We all know you can't solve stupid! That being said I can document that I told them to follow the protocol, my a$$ get's covered

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Ziots, Edward
...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Just out of personal curiosity, have you been able to do that with any success? I'm X number of levels below the CIO, who is levels below the CEO. When

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread William Robbins
System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Just out of personal curiosity, have you been able to do that with any success? I'm X number of levels below the CIO, who is levels below the CEO. When these requests for shiny devices come from on high

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I dont see shock value in this. The same could be said for just about anything that you have local access to. In this case, the iPhone is running an OS that Apple is spreading to more and more of thier device platforms (most recently the Apple TV 2;, which is widening the interest level of

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Kurt Buff
Here's something even scarier: http://www.cellebrite.com/forensic-products.html I have the closest thing to a remedy for the issue that David raised, and possibly the above: GFE Which doesn't mean GirlFriend Experience, but instead Good For Enterprise. http://good.com There are other vendors

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Jonathan Link
I'm a recent, and satisfied user/admin, too. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Here's something even scarier: http://www.cellebrite.com/forensic-products.html I have the closest thing to a remedy for the issue that David raised, and possibly the above:

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread MMF
Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes I must not be human... Most of my high security accounts have passwords of 20+ random characters and I have them memorized... On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread William Robbins
System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes +1 I use song lyrics also. - WJR On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:49, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: One method is to take acronyms from your favorite hobby and string them together Example: NetBEUI CPU

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Michael B. Smith
10, 2011 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes +1 I use song lyrics also. - WJR On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:49, David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote: One method is to take acronyms from your favorite hobby and string

Re: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Jonathan
in under 5 minutes. Anything. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes How

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes I got the idea for song lyrics that way. Place I did some side work for had the admin password as ThaawTsoM! (The hills are alive with The sound of Music!) ((Hopefully I didn't just put that in folks heads! ;) )) - WJR On Thu

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread MMF
Sounds impressive. Mind telling us what software you are using? Murray _ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Anything under 15

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Michael B. Smith
: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Sounds impressive. Mind telling us what software you are using? Murray From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone

RE: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Michael B. Smith
Hours if not days. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes And how many

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Jonathan Link
-- *From:* William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:52 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes +1 I use song lyrics also. - WJR On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:49, David Lum david

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Jonathan Link
and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:15 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Sounds impressive. Mind telling

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread John Aldrich
A former boss liked Jumping Jack Flash is a gas, gas, gas. Or, JJFiaGGG. :-) From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes I got the idea for song lyrics

Re: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Don Ely
://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes How about a nursery rhyme but use the first letter of each word. Example

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Steve Ens
a month. *From:* William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:07 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes I got the idea for song lyrics that way. Place I did some side work for had the admin

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Don Ely
://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:15 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Sounds impressive. Mind telling us what software you are using

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Don Ely
, February 10, 2011 4:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes I got the idea for song lyrics that way. Place I did some side work for had the admin password as ThaawTsoM! (The hills are alive with The sound of Music!) ((Hopefully I didn't

RE: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Michael B. Smith
Ttttt Wrong. :-P Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Michael B. Smith
. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.netmailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread William Robbins
letter of each word. Example: Hickory Dickery Dock The Mouse Ran Up The Clock would be: hddtmrutc. Murray From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread William Robbins
://TheEssentialExchange.com From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Sounds impressive. Mind telling us what software you are using? Murray

RE: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Ibibirrbykibibirrbykibibrrb From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Ttttt Wrong. :-P Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant

Re: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Kurt Buff
minutes. Anything. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread David Lum
Funny, my one of my current passwords is 16 characters... From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes That's why I said 15 char or less... Regards, Michael

Re: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Don Ely
://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:23 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes At roughly 3 characters per minute, you can extrapolate that out

Re: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Don Ely
:* RE: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Ttttt Wrong. :-P Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 10

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Michael B. Smith
: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Funny, my one of my current passwords is 16 characters... From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

RE: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Michael B. Smith
With an asymptote. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Oh right, I

RE: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Maglinger, Paul
I'm bad, I'm bad, I'm really really bad. You know I'm bad, I'm bad... :) From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes That might take awhile to crack :P On Thu

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread David Lum
: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Well, the next iteration of RTs will include 16 chars - so, it's time to extend it. :) Regards, Michael B. Smith

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Don Ely
new mission at NWEA – get the other DA’s to quit being DA’s on their normal accounts… Dave *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:40 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:15 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Sounds

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Michael B. Smith
: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Anything under 15 characters I can crack in under 5 minutes. Anything. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.netmailto:mmfree

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Jon Harris
Now, now I thought the MIB frowned on admission of your other worldly origin. Jon On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: I must not be human... Most of my high security accounts have passwords of 20+ random characters and I have them memorized... On Thu, Feb 10,

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:32 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Surely. But I'm assuming we

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Michael B. Smith
Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Anything under 15 characters I can crack in under 5 minutes. Anything. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: MMF [mailto:mmfree

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:37 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Actually, I accidentally limited my remark a bit... How's about American ASCII table? -- ME2

Re: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Jeff Steward
://TheEssentialExchange.com From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes How about a nursery rhyme but use the first letter of each word. Example

Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Kurt Buff
to quit being DA’s on their normal accounts… Dave From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Well, the next iteration of RTs will include 16 chars

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Ken Schaefer
Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Two more words, NO Battery = NO remote Wipe, therefore dispense with that fallacy that its going to save you, because it doesn't do a secure wipe of the drive itself, which allows an attacker with the phone to basically hook it up

RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

2011-02-10 Thread Crawford, Scott
Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes Anything under 15 characters I can crack in under 5 minutes. Anything. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011