and Windows mix
Those dashes were Gnarly!
-sc
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
Or the original Mattel handheld Football!
Nostalgia alert!!
ASB (My XeeSM Profile
Awesome.
There's gotta be a port for cell phones out there somewhere...
-sc
From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
I bought one of those a few years ago, broken
LED Football for iPhone. Don't know about others.
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Awesome.
There's gotta be a port for cell phones
. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Awesome.
There's gotta be a port for cell phones out there somewhere...
-sc
From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
Sent: Friday
I suspect it just won't be the same without the tactile feedback from
those buttons tho (clik, clik, clik...)
-sc
From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
LED Football
On 8 Sep 2010 at 18:40, Steven M. Caesare wrote:
You keep ignoring the basic tenant people are pointing out to you.
[grammar nazi mode ON] I think you mean tenet [/grandma nazi mode OFF]
--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/
And I think you mean /grammar nazi mode OFF
-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 4:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
On 8 Sep 2010 at 18:40, Steven M. Caesare wrote:
You keep
Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
And I think you mean /grammar nazi mode OFF
-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 4:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
On 8 Sep 2010 at 18:40, Steven M
, 2010 10:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
But tended to be somewhat less capable for power users. No right button
context menus, ugh. And less shortcut key combos.
Having a real term window is nice tho.
-sc
-Original Message-
From: James Hill
I suspect so.
Here's alternative fun:
http://ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
On Thu, Sep 9
fun:
http://ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.htmlhttp://ex-parrot.com/%7Epete/upside-down-ternet.html
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows
.
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 2:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
On 8 Sep 2010 at 18:40, Steven M. Caesare wrote:
You keep ignoring the basic tenant people
PEBKAC
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families
- Original Message -
From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Thu Sep 09 08:51:02 2010
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Yeah, somebody else
-Original Message-
From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Actually, contextual menus have been a part of Mac OS since before
they
switched over to X. If you have a one
Kill two birds with one stone and do it to the family.
-sc
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
That's a legendary piece of technical genius. I'd love to have the time
-Original Message-
From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Actually, contextual menus have been a part of Mac OS since before
they
switched over to X. If you have
Oh yeah... I do likes me some scroll-wheeling.
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
And the scroll wheel.
The pre-MacOSX suffered from too
: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
Ooo, something new to try. What does that combo do?
--Original Message--
From: Steven M. Caesare
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows
]
Sent: Wed, 08 Sep 2010
21:00:07 -0700
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
But tended to be somewhat less capable for power users. No right button
context menus, ugh.
I'm told that if you hook a mouse with more
- Original Message -
From: sdewilliman
All said and done, Macs are user friendly. Just not sysadmin-friendly,
despite what Matt says :) And if he's willing to trade tips I may not have
come across in managing them in the enterprise, I'm all ears
If you ask, I'll try to answer.
Also,
: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Steven M. Caesare
scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
That having been said, my favorite new Win7 shell keyboard shortcut
. . .
--
From: Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
10,000 comedians out of work and we get stuck with people who think this
is funny.
That's always a joy
, 2010 1:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
Or, without editing the plist you can walk up to any Macs with
password protected screensaver on, enter the admin pswd boom
there's the user's
...
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
-Original Message-
From: James Winzenz [mailto:james.winz...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
Ha
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Nice to know I'm not the only one who has done that. Back in 3.11 days I did
that and made clock.exe the shell. How do you get out of Windows? Close
Clock. :-)
I've done that twice...the 2nd time the results weren't pretty because it
was a developer who started
09, 2010 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
Speaking of 3.x, anyone have any idea why at least until XP there is
still
program manager shipping with Windows?
- Original Message -
From: David Lum david@nwea.org
To: NT System Admin Issues
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:58 PM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote:
Speaking of 3.x, anyone have any idea why at least until XP there is still
program manager shipping with Windows?
Prolly just because nobody had got around to deleting it yet... ;-)
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful endpoint
@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Nice to know I'm not the only one who has done that. Back in 3.11 days I did
that and made clock.exe the shell. How do you get out of Windows? Close Clock.
:-)
I've done that twice...the 2nd time the results weren't pretty because
Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Because it's AWE-SOME!
Actually it's probably because up to XP, the WOW16 layer still shipped,
and progman needed to be there for old 16 bit apps that may have relied
on calling in to it.
-sc
-Original Message
Great IDS.
-sc
-Original Message-
From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
*Snort*
WJR
- from my Crackberry.
If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck
@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Great IDS.
-sc
-Original Message-
From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
If I give you my wife's contact info, can you convince her of that?
-sc
-Original Message-
From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
I wondered who'd be the first
and Windows mix
-Original Message-
From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
Like Microsoft Bob?
WJR
- from my Crackberry.
If you
Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
If I give you my wife's contact info, can you convince her of that?
-sc
-Original Message-
From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw
Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
It's all Melinda's fault, isn't it?
Sm:)e.
--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District
- Original Message -
From: Steven M. Caesare
Probably.
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
It's all Melinda's fault, isn't it?
Sm:)e.
--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District
She mentioned, now that I think about it.
-sc
-Original Message-
From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
Last time I called her I couldn't make out much for all
PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
I wish I could create some crap software and end up married to a
multi-billionaire. :)
WJR
- from my Crackberry.
If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross mr
Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 09 Sep 2010
14:17:46 -0700
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Incidentally, that's a 16 bit app(Bob), running on the WoW16 layer of a
32bit OS(XP), running in a virtual machine(MS VirtualPC) on a
64bitmachine(Win7x64).
Kinda
Operated by a 2 bit character not worth 4 bits.
Webster
-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Incidentally, that's a 16 bit app(Bob), running on the WoW16 layer of a
32bit
OS(XP), running in a virtual machine(MS
Wait.
Are you talking about Shookie again?
-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Operated by a 2 bit character not worth 4 bits.
Webster
-Original
, September 09, 2010 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Put a Palm Pilot emulator on it, running the gameboy emulator!
What's the current Levels of emulation world record? For some reason, 11
layers comes to mind.
--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District
and Windows mix
Wait.
Are you talking about Shookie again?
-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Operated by a 2 bit character not worth 4 bits.
Webster
-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Incidentally, that's a 16 bit app(Bob), running on the WoW16 layer of a
32bit OS(XP), running in a virtual machine(MS VirtualPC) on a
64bitmachine(Win7x64).
Kinda cool.
-sc
-Original
I'm memorising that one!
-Original Message-
From: James Winzenz [mailto:james.winz...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 10 September 2010 2:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
Ha, my favorite was to take a screenshot of their desktop, set that to their
desktop
...emulating Pong.
Or the original Mattel handheld Football!
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Put a Palm Pilot emulator on it, running
Nah, Shookie Baby is OOF now. Must be out hunting turkeys. I didn't know
TVK was in NC yet.
Webster
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Wait.
Are you talking about Shookie again?
-Original Message
Commented upon by a 1-dmensional list-jockey.
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Operated by a 2 bit character not worth 4 bits.
Webster
And what's wrong with running an emulator in each?
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
No, that's the number of dimensions required (according
: RE: Mac and Windows mix
And what's wrong with running an emulator in each?
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
No, that's the number
handheld Football!
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Put a Palm Pilot emulator on it, running the gameboy emulator!
What's
My work here is done.
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Um.
I guess I don't have a response to that.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant
Those dashes were Gnarly!
-sc
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
Or the original Mattel handheld Football!
Nostalgia alert!!
ASB (My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com
...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tue, 07 Sep 2010
17:41:34 -0700
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
Precisely, with OD /WGM there¹s no central mgmt console whereby an admin
can
tell which/what policy is applied to what group. Administration easily
becoems a nightmare without 3rd party mgmt software
Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tue, 07 Sep 2010
18:57:26 -0700
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
ARD also costs at least $300 for basic 10-user mgmt.
RDP/RDCM are both free, so is pstools.
WGM is a closer comparison to GPO as OD is to ADwell, AD back
- Original Message -
From: James Hill
[mailto:james.h...@superamart.com.au]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tue, 07 Sep 2010
19:38:07 -0700
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
I find it hard to see the benefit of using Mac's in a corporate
is nearly non-existent.
--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District
- Original Message -
From: Brian Desmond
[mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tue, 07 Sep 2010
20:00:32 -0700
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
). The
advanced GPM also lets you do check-in/check-out, versioning control, workflow
etc.
Cheers
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
Perhaps I'm
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
I think sdewilliam is saying that there is no modelling capability.
GPMC lets you pick a user, a computer and an AD site, and dynamically layers
all the policies at all levels that will affect the user, and gives you the
resulting effective settings (after group
Windows 7 has the best of both worlds, IMO.
As an admin, you can gain access to a computer that is locked by logging in
as a different user. You can do this without logging the other person off,
and without violating their session.
As Ken mentions, this maintains non-repudiation.
*ASB *(My
Couldn't you do this in Vista as well? I thought the ability to use fast-user
switching with domain joined machines was introduced with Vista...
Cheers
Ken
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 6:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac
Issues
*Subject:* Re: Mac and Windows mix
Windows 7 has the best of both worlds, IMO.
As an admin, you can gain access to a computer that is locked by logging in
as a different user. You can do this without logging the other person off,
and without violating their session.
As Ken
]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
I hope it never doesn't. That will make very non-repudiation difficult.
Cheers
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 1
I don't...
From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
Please pardon the semi-hijack.
What solution do you use to give the Mac people remote access to their machines?
Thanks,
RS
On Tue
environments as well.
-sc
From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Two Mac issues:
1. Currently, it is a smaller target for hackers.
2. Typically, a Mac user
I'm of two minds on this... in some cases it might be useful, but it
would obviously have to be logged as a security event.
-sc
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 6:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
controlled too!
a
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: 08 September 2010 14:01
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
I'm of two minds on this... in some cases it might be useful, but it
would obviously have
...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Basically, that users are not admins and that everything runs in userspace
unless specifically run as an admin, including installation of software.
[John-Aldrich][Perception_2]
From
True. but NT was not a user operating system. J
John-AldrichPerception_2
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
This is only one, tiny, aspect of implementing a security
without third
party utility like Passenger.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 6:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
Question: how does one bring a Mac under scope of management of WGM
development
efforts made by Apple in the enterprise arena to facilitate central mgmt of
their machines/OS.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
I think
, September 08, 2010 10:27 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
This is only one, tiny, aspect of implementing a security model (reading
Windows Internals by Russinovich/Solomon is highly recommended).
That said, Windows NT has had the same model since the first
Huh? What is a user operating system?
Cheers
Ken
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
True... but NT was not a user operating system. :)
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k
finally got with the program and
stopped letting users run as the local admin by default.
John-AldrichPerception_2
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
Yes, it was NT
][image: Perception_2]
*From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:43 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Mac and Windows mix
Yes, it was NT Workstation and NT Server were separate products.
I deployed NT Workstation 3.51 and NT
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Mac and Windows mix
Yes, it was NT Workstation and NT Server were separate products.
I deployed NT Workstation 3.51 and NT Workstation 4.0 many times. Was it
missing some stuff? USB support was the biggest around the NT 4.0 time
frame
, 08 Sep 2010
07:32:25 -0700
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
I believe WGM _can_ manage unbound machines, provided that you first import
them into WGM (Matt can correct if this is misinfo since we modified AD
schema leverage AD/WGM to manage users). Even then, that in itself,
whether you do
-
From: John Aldrich
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:28 AM
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
True. but NT was not a user operating system. J
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:27 AM
can realistically compare the
security model of *nix to NT.
Bill Mayo
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
I was under the impression that NT4
Enterprise Services
Level 3, Block C, Jackson Square, 11 Lorong 3,
Toa Payoh, Singapore, 319759
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
+1
And I was a Microsoft Certified SQL 7.0
processes?
The typical NTFS file ACLs are far more granular than typical *Nix permissions.
And that's just the DACLs, not including the SACLs.
Cheers
Ken
From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac
.
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
User vs Administrator privileges are only one small part of a security
model. In fact, Windows has many
:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
This is only one, tiny, aspect of implementing a security model (reading
Windows Internals by Russinovich/Solomon is highly recommended).
That said, Windows NT has had the same model since the first released
version (v3.1
and Windows mix
True... but NT was not a user operating system. :-)
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
This is only one, tiny, aspect of implementing a security
, but I'm dating myself).
-sc
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
User vs Administrator privileges are only one small part of a security
model. In fact, Windows has many
Issues
*Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
User vs Administrator privileges are only one small part of a security
model. In fact, Windows has many individual security rights, so “user”
versus “administrator” is a somewhat pointless comparison.
How do you ACL files, ports, threads, memory
applications
(other than Office) wanted to run as an admin, at least up until recent
vintages of Windows.
John-AldrichPerception_2
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
And we
[mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
You date yourself?!?!? Interesting place to come out...
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Steven M. Caesare
scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
+1
: Mac and Windows mix
True. but NT was not a user operating system. J
John-AldrichPerception_2
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
This is only one, tiny, aspect
, September 08, 2010 10:27 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
This is only one, tiny, aspect of implementing a security model (reading
Windows Internals by Russinovich/Solomon is highly recommended).
That said, Windows NT has had the same model since the first
C'mon... everybody does it.
I just buy myself a nice dinner first.
-sc
From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix
You date yourself?!?!? Interesting place to come out...
On Wed
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*Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
And we need to define what he means by “userspace”… as that infers that his
statement means he believes admin-owned processes run in… kernel space?
If so, that’s an incorrect understanding.
-sc
*From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com
Workstation.
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*From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:23 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
Funny, it was my user OS since pre-beta.
Are you speaking
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*From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:23 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
Funny, it was my user OS since pre-beta.
Are you speaking of the NT “family”, or strictly
Issues
*Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
True… but NT was not a “user” operating system. J
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*From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:27 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Mac
And I hear you're a really cheap date.
Shook
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
+1
And user rights assignments. And granularity for ACL's.
The NT executive kernel
You have NO idea.
What I once did for a ketchup packet I won't mention here.
-sc
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
And I hear you're a really cheap date
Naw. I ain't driving that far...
Shook
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
You would know.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http
Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
You have NO idea.
What I once did for a ketchup packet I won't mention here.
-sc
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
And I hear
And I can proudly say I have _NO_ idea what you are talking about.
Freak.
-sc
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
I thought your thing was pudding like that old lady
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