-Original Message-
From: James Hill [mailto:james.h...@superamart.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
The lack of control of Windows 7 features via GP was less than amusing at
Teched here last year. Obviously
but it does under Windows 7 :)
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From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 11:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
I find this a bit disheartening, as we will be rolling out W7 boxes in the not
too distant
...
a
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: 28 July 2010 05:25
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
It's definitely more robust from a security standpoint. How many attacks
do you see against privileged services do you
On NT4?
On 28 July 2010 03:48, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com wrote:
On 27 Jul 2010 at 22:13, James Rankin wrote:
I had someone ask me the other day how to get into Services on Windows
NT4. Took me a good few minutes to remember it was originally stored as
an applet in Control
Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
I share John's frustration with the interface changes.
/ranton
In general, I'm underwhelmed by Windows 7. It's supposed to be so much
more robust from
They probably trimmed out some of the management to make the release date.
Let's see how and when they are added.
I joked earlier about them coming in Service Packs, but that hasn't been
customary for Windows OS in a while. Maybe a feature pack?
-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
On Tue, Jul
Not since SP3, anyway...
-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
wrote:
It’s definitely more robust from a security standpoint. How many attacks
do
you
On 27 Jul 2010 at 23:49, Ben Scott wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
angu...@geoapps.com wrote:
I had someone ask me the other day how to get into Services on Windows
NT4. Took me a good few minutes to remember it was originally stored as
an applet in Control
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
It’s definitely more robust from a security standpoint. How many attacks
do you see against privileged services do you see know? The type that allow
NIMDA and Blaster etc. to spread?
But we don't see them for XP much,
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
I joked earlier about them coming in Service Packs, but that hasn't been
customary for Windows OS in a while. Maybe a feature pack?
It'll be in Update Rollup 2 to Feature Pack 1. ;-)
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful
. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 7 - Libraries
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz
LOL!
-ASB
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
wrote:
I joked earlier about them coming in Service Packs, but that hasn't been
customary for Windows OS in a while. Maybe a feature pack?
Policies often
didn't match up :)
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 2:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
What they call meeting the bar for new _core OS_ feature content in a service
: Thursday, 29 July 2010 2:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
What they call meeting the bar for new _core OS_ feature content in a
service pack is very high, especially since the Vista reset.
This is why we've seen some things decoupled - such as IIS, which comes
and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
Some of it is a matter of being worn down, and some of it is due to being on
the other side
Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
What they call meeting the bar for new _core OS_ feature content in a service
pack is very high, especially since the Vista reset.
This is why we've seen some things decoupled - such as IIS, which comes with
the OS but has been updated
and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
IIS is still tried to the OS
IIS 6 = Windows Server 2003 (and XP x64
.
Cheers
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 9:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
Ah, when Server 2008 was first released, it wasn't IIS 7. Or FTP 7. Those were
released later, they were
This is part of the lovely code that tries to manage legacy file paths.
For instance, the move from My Documents in XP to Documents in Vista and
beyond.
Also, the move from C:\Documents and Settings to C:\Users just to name a
few.
See the following:
-
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
This is part of the lovely code that tries to manage legacy file paths.
curmudgeonWhy does Microsoft feel a need to change the profile path
with every other major release?/curmudgeon
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful endpoint
-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 7 - Libraries
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
This is part of the lovely code that tries to manage legacy file paths
and why don't the junctions made in place of legacy folders actually
function?!!!
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 7 - Libraries
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Seen that here too.
Look in the documents folder from the server and there will be hidden
file named desktop.ini
Delete it and the folder name will revert back to its' original name.
The folder didn't get renamed, the desktop.ini file just changes what
displays, icon and name.
I have tried but
line they are treated as distinct folders. Documents shows the
actual contents but My Documents is empty.
--
Mike Gill
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 7:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 7 - Libraries
This is part
-Original Message-
From: Adam Meixler [mailto:ad...@interlink1.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
and why don't the junctions made in place of legacy folders actually
function?!!!
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott
: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
A: Because they can. :-) Seriously, it annoys me that Microsoft, in their
INFINITE wisdom, chose to completely redesign the control panel
Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
IMHO, although I didn't enjoy the re-learning process, it's a lot simpler.
Just like the Office ribbon is much simpler - once you
then enter.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
Personally I find the Vista/7 Control Panel to be convoluted. Especially in the
Personalization properties
]
To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:34:03 -0500
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
IMHO, although I didn't enjoy the re-learning process, it's a lot simpler. Just
like the Office ribbon is much simpler - once you get used
Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
I share John's frustration with the interface changes.
/ranton
In general, I'm underwhelmed by Windows 7. It's supposed to be so much
more robust from
surprising because junctions have worked since at least the turn of the century
in both cmd and explorer
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
Because
+1. Despised the ribbon till I got used to it. Now I can't stand using
any of the old office interfaces.
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
IMHO
2007.
-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
+1. Despised the ribbon till I got used to it. Now I can't stand using
any of the old office interfaces.
-Original
But John DOES like the pretty flowers on the default W7 login screen...
Shook
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
My main complaint
[mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
But John DOES like the pretty flowers on the default W7 login screen...
Shook
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent
Still a fan of the MS-BOB interface but for purely selfish reasons..lol
-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
I always enjoyed the Teletubbies screen from
I actually found and installed Bob in a VM a bit back just for fun. I
have the screenshot somewhere...
-sc
-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
Still a fan
: Windows 7 - Libraries
But John DOES like the pretty flowers on the default W7 login screen...
Shook
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
My main
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:33 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
My main complaint is that they won't leave the interfaces alone. They seem
addicted to changing where everything is located every other version or so,
such that (especially in Outlook) you have to go digging
that is). :-)
Tim
-Original Message-
From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
Personally I find the Vista/7 Control Panel to be convoluted. Especially in the
Personalization
-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
A: Because they can. :-) Seriously, it annoys me that Microsoft, in their
INFINITE wisdom, chose to completely redesign the control panel
10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
IMHO, although I didn't enjoy the re-learning process, it's a lot simpler.
Just like the Office ribbon is much simpler - once you get used to it and
are past cursing at it.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant
. Despised the ribbon till I got used to it. Now I can't stand using
any of the old office interfaces.
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
IMHO, although
System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
]
*Sent:* Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:34:03 -0500
*Subject:* RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
IMHO, although I didn't enjoy the re-learning process, it's a lot simpler.
Just like the Office ribbon is much simpler - once you get used
MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
A: Because they can. :-) Seriously, it annoys me that Microsoft
This tricked me up with regards to folder redirection. We created new GP's for
Win 7 and when setting the folder redirection didn't tick the option to support
XP, 2003 etc. This results in My Documents being called Documents and so
when a previous XP user logged onto Win 7 there Documents was
Not to vear off topic - too late - but how are we as administrators supposed to
manage libraries? I can see it now, user calls and says I lost my
documents, they were in my library last. That could be anywhere. I must be
missing the big picture but I don't see how libraries are any
[mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
I have to wonder what you are referring to with changing screen resolution,
as Screen Resolution is one of the right-click menu choices on my Win7
install. I fail to see how
to
automatically add gadgets with GP? Can't do that.
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
Not to vear off topic - too late - but how are we as administrators supposed to
manage libraries? I can see
On 27 Jul 2010 at 15:54, John Aldrich wrote:
Meh! I wish they'd left the classic 2000/XP login screen. I don't like
having to change users to log on as someone else in Vista/Win7. :-(
Not only that, it was very handy to have hidden users you could access only
with Ctrl-Alt-Del twice on the
On 27 Jul 2010 at 22:13, James Rankin wrote:
I had someone ask me the other day how to get into Services on Windows
NT4. Took me a good few minutes to remember it was originally stored as
an applet in Control Panel.
Start - Run - services.msc [enter]
--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps,
The commands line options usually last a whole lot longer. For instance,
START - RUN - EVENTVWR had worked since at least v3.5, and possibly even
v3.1
Many, but not everything, of course
-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
Sent from my Motorola Droid
On Jul 27, 2010 5:14 PM, James Rankin
:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
Not to vear off topic - too late - but how are we as administrators supposed
to manage libraries? I can see it now, user calls and says I lost my
documents, they were in my library last. That could be anywhere. I must
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
angu...@geoapps.com wrote:
I had someone ask me the other day how to get into Services on Windows
NT4. Took me a good few minutes to remember it was originally stored as
an applet in Control Panel.
Start - Run - services.msc [enter]
MMC
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:31 PM, James Hill
james.h...@superamart.com.au wrote:
Gadgets, pinning and libraries have next to useless management with group
policy.
I love how Microsoft's adoption of Microsoft's enterprise management
technology is deficient.
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful endpoint
, how many are for user mode code - e.g. IE, when
the extent of exploit is the user's context?
Cheers
Ken
From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 2:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
I share John's frustration
to (in Win7)
Cheers
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 2:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Libraries
Personally I find the Vista/7 Control Panel to be convoluted. Especially
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
I had someone ask me the other day how to get into Services on
Windows NT4.
Start - Run - services.msc [enter]
MMC wasn't introduced until NT 5.0 (Win 2000).
Not true. IIS 4 was administered via MMC (v1.0), and
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