Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-20 Thread James Rankin
-- *From: *Alex Eckelberry al...@sunbelt-software.com *Date: *Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:27:46 -0500 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever The interesting

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-20 Thread James Rankin
should allow users to install whatever The other interesting and amazing thing is that some major companies are using dumb, thin clients and doing VDI, so that they can control costs. I'm more in that camp, really. Giving users their choice of software, letting them be admins

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2009-11-20 Thread Ken Schaefer
What about a quiet word from the CEO to the recalcitrant? Cheers Ken From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, 20 November 2009 4:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever With regards

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2009-11-20 Thread James Rankin
System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever With regards to the blocking of IM status changes, this came down to a drive from the CEO for software-based presence awareness. People sitting in Do Not Disturb for two weeks were

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2009-11-20 Thread Webster
Then you should check out Citrix XenDesktop 4 with HDX. Very nice graphics performance even with 3D software. Webster From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Subject: Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever The only things that seem

RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-20 Thread Webster
That is correct. Serious graphical/video oomph will need Citrix XenDesktop 4 with HDX. Webster -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever I'll concede the point, however

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2009-11-20 Thread Jonathan Link
shouldn’t they be able to be avoid being bothered on IM? Cheers Ken *From:* asbz...@gmail.com [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, 20 November 2009 9:37 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever When

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2009-11-20 Thread James Rankin
] *Sent:* Friday, 20 November 2009 9:37 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever When you've outsourced IT, there's no one left to torture or object. But, as with all other ill-fated trends, we'll see the pendulum

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2009-11-20 Thread David Lum
2009 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever When you've outsourced IT, there's no one left to torture or object. But, as with all other ill-fated trends, we'll see the pendulum swing back the other way

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-20 Thread Jonathan Link
] *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2009 5:21 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever Your statement, [a]s with all things, it is the actions of a few that spoil it for many isn't really accurate. Often times

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2009-11-20 Thread Kurt Buff
thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever I'll concede the point, however, on things that require serious graphical/video oomph. I'll easily believe that requires different treatment. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http

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2009-11-19 Thread James Rankin
I don't even want to read this, because my blood pressure is high enough with this sort of thing. If our WebSense server restarts I have a load of users that jump onto Bebo as fast as they can. They spend all day crying about not being able to plug USB keys in and run joke programs that their

RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-19 Thread Ziots, Edward
: Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever I don't even want to read this, because my blood pressure is high enough with this sort of thing. If our WebSense server restarts I have a load

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-19 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
Even with the weak economy, companies will find it harder to recruit savvy workers if they don't let them use their favored technology. I'd like to know what this guy was smoking when he wrote this. In the US, with an unemployment rate of over 10%, if you turn down a job because the company

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-19 Thread Jon Harris
Now that number depends on the part of the country you are in. Some are much higher and projected to go even higher but you are correct he/she must be on something to think of walking away from any offer that is half way decent. If they are unemployed or soon will be. Jon On Thu, Nov 19, 2009

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2009-11-19 Thread RichardMcClary
rantLet's see now, this innocent whiner wonders why corporate machines cannot keep up with trends. He is obviously oblivious to trends like softare audits finding unlicensed (pirated) software on corporate machines (and thus huge fines), having subpoenas for email (and then the company

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-19 Thread Jon Harris
Personally I think the WSJ publishers have no clue and really want their operation to get audited but a few companies/groups that look for and report pirated software and files that do not belong. You know the ones music, videos, and others that were not paid for. It would be so sweet to see

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2009-11-19 Thread Rene de Haas
+1 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Rob Bonfiglio robbonfig...@gmail.comwrote: Even with the weak economy, companies will find it harder to recruit savvy workers if they don't let them use their favored technology. I'd like to know what this guy was smoking when he wrote this. In the US,

RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-19 Thread Alex Eckelberry
Issues Subject: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever Discuss: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870356720457449903294530984 4.html I believe this is more an indictment of the low quality of journalism nowadays. It's little more than a rant on his

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-19 Thread asbzone
-software.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:27:46 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever The interesting and amazing thing is that this really is where some major companies are going - giving

RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-19 Thread Ken Schaefer
shouldn't they be able to be avoid being bothered on IM? Cheers Ken From: asbz...@gmail.com [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 20 November 2009 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever When you've outsourced

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2009-11-19 Thread Charlie Kaiser
: Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever When you've outsourced IT, there's no one left to torture or object. But, as with all other ill-fated trends, we'll see the pendulum swing back the other way as productivity plummets. Sent from my

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2009-11-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org wrote: let people do what they want within reason and IT will just have to figure out how to make it work safely. I wouldn't have a problem with that if I was given an unlimited budget. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful

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2009-11-19 Thread Charlie Kaiser
, 2009 7:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org wrote: let people do what they want within reason and IT will just have to figure out

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2009-11-19 Thread Kurt Buff
stipends to buy whatever equipment they want, etc. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever Discuss: http

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2009-11-19 Thread Thomas W Shinder
Admin Issues Subject: Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever The other interesting and amazing thing is that some major companies are using dumb, thin clients and doing VDI, so that they can control costs. I'm more in that camp, really. Giving users

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-19 Thread Kurt Buff
, but outside of that -- you're going to be in a world of hurt. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-18 Thread Jonathan Link
Discuss: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703567204574499032945309844.html I believe this is more an indictment of the low quality of journalism nowadays. It's little more than a rant on his employer's IT policies. In no instance does he discuss the measured effect of IT policies

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2009-11-18 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Thanks for providing something for me to blog about this weekend... *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership* On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: Discuss:

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-18 Thread Andrew Laya
Even more galling, especially to tech-savvy workers, is the nanny-state attitude of employers who block access to Web sites, lock down PCs so users can't install software and force employees to use clunky programs. Sure, IT departments had legitimate concerns in the past. Employees would blindly

RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-18 Thread Webster
I liked how the WSJ IT staff refused to comment for the article. Webster From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Subject: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever Discuss: http://online.wsj.com/article

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2009-11-18 Thread Jackson, Jeff
should allow users to install whatever I liked how the WSJ IT staff refused to comment for the article. Webster From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Subject: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever Discuss: http://online.wsj.com/article

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2009-11-18 Thread Vicky Spelshaus
:* Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:21 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever I liked how the WSJ IT staff refused to comment for the article. Webster *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com

RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-18 Thread David Lum
From: Jackson, Jeff [mailto:jeff.jack...@rbza.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever I'm glad Mr. Wingfield is tech savvy, I have a feeling he's not gonna get much in the way

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-18 Thread Andrew Laya
] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever I liked how the WSJ IT staff refused to comment for the article. Webster From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com

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2009-11-18 Thread Maglinger, Paul
: Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever Even more galling, especially to tech-savvy workers, is the nanny-state attitude of employers who block access to Web sites, lock down PCs so users can't install software and force employees to use clunky programs

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-18 Thread Steven Peck
) 503.267.9764 From: Jackson, Jeff [mailto:jeff.jack...@rbza.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever I’m glad Mr. Wingfield is tech savvy, I have a feeling he’s not gonna get

RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-18 Thread Maglinger, Paul
[mailto:andrew.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever I wonder if they have removed Google Desktop and Xobni yet. On 11/18/09, Jackson, Jeff jeff.jack...@rbza.com

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2009-11-18 Thread Erik Goldoff
: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever Discuss: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703567204574499032945309844.ht ml I believe this is more an indictment of the low quality

RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-18 Thread David Lum
Subject: RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever This is not a new perspective ... every so often some 'journalist' expresses their opinion that IT should yield to the fact that we should support whatever the end users want .. the names change, and sometimes some

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2009-11-18 Thread Steven M. Caesare
I suspect he may have all sorts of network performance issues as well... -sc From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever I

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2009-11-18 Thread Devin Meade
Issues *Subject:* RE: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever I liked how the WSJ IT staff refused to comment for the article. Webster *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Subject:* WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-18 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 14:13, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Discuss: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703567204574499032945309844.html I believe this is more an indictment of the low quality of journalism nowadays.  It's little more than a rant on his employer's

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-18 Thread Ben Scott
At the office, you've got a sluggish computer running aging software... Probably true. Maybe he also has a beat-up old desk, in a cube, or an office with 70s decor. Is he willing to foot the bill to buy new everything for the company for him to use? I'm guessing no. For years, the big

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-18 Thread Richard Stovall
Why don't we invite him to read the discussion here and see what he has to say? A link to http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/messages?id=759376 in a message to nick.wingfi...@wsj.com would do the trick. Oh, and these comments are fun: http://bit.ly/32ixqv http://bit.ly/1ggdXR

Re: WSJ Reporter thinks IT departments should allow users to install whatever

2009-11-18 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: A link to http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/messages?id=759376 in a message to nick.wingfi...@wsj.com would do the trick. He can't get email right now because he broke his mail client when he installed Xobni. --