Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-10 Thread Frédéric Bastien
Hi, Just to note, as they plan to remove there dependency on it this year, is it bad that they can't use 1.8 for a few mounts until they finish the conversion? They already have a working version. They can continue to use it for as long they want. The only advantage for them if the compat layers

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-10 Thread Christopher Hanley
I'm all for a big scary warning on import. Fair warning is good for everyone, not just our developers. As for testing, our software that uses the API is tested nightly. So if our software stops working, and the compatibility layer is the cause, we would definitely be looking into what happened.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-10 Thread Raul Cota
based on our situation On 10/01/2013 9:02 AM, Christopher Hanley wrote: I'm all for a big scary warning on import. Fair warning is good for everyone, not just our developers. agree As

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-09 Thread Christopher Hanley
After poking around our code base and talking to a few folks I predict that we at STScI can remove our dependence on the numpy-numarray compatibility layer by the end of this calendar year. I'm unsure of what the timeline for numpy 1.8 is so I don't know if this schedule supports removal of the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-09 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Christopher Hanley chan...@gmail.com wrote: After poking around our code base and talking to a few folks I predict that we at STScI can remove our dependence on the numpy-numarray compatibility layer by the end of this calendar year. I'm unsure of what the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-09 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Christopher Hanley chan...@gmail.comwrote: After poking around our code base and talking to a few folks I predict that we at STScI can remove our dependence on the numpy-numarray compatibility layer by the end of this calendar year. I'm unsure of what the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-07 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Raul Cota r...@virtualmaterials.com wrote: I realize we may be a minority but it would be very nice if support for numeric could be kept for a few more versions. We don't have any particular needs for numarray. We just under went through an extremely long and

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-07 Thread Raul Cota
On 07/01/2013 9:22 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Raul Cota r...@virtualmaterials.com wrote: I realize we may be a minority but it would be very nice if support for

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-07 Thread Raul Cota
Ran a fair bit of our test suite using numpy 1.7 compiling against the corresponding 'numpy/oldnumeric.h' and everything worked well . All I saw was the warning below which is obviously expected: """ Warning 23 warning Msg: Using deprecated NumPy

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-07 Thread Charles R Harris
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Raul Cota r...@virtualmaterials.com wrote: Ran a fair bit of our test suite using numpy 1.7 compiling against the corresponding 'numpy/oldnumeric.h' and everything worked well . All I saw was the warning below which is obviously expected: Warning23

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-07 Thread Raul Cota
We can keep testing it in coming versions while we catch up. Raul Cota (P.Eng., Ph.D. Chemical Engineering) Research Development Manager Virtual Materials Group - Canada www.virtualmaterials.com ===

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-06 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Thoughts? To be clear, what you're talking about is basically deleting these two packages: numpy.oldnumeric numpy.numarray plus the compatibility C API in numpy/numarray/include ? So this would only affect

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-06 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Thoughts? To be clear, what you're talking about is basically deleting these two packages: numpy.oldnumeric numpy.numarray plus the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-06 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Thoughts? To be clear, what you're talking about is

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-06 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Charles R Harris

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-06 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Nathaniel

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove support for numeric and numarray in 1.8

2013-01-06 Thread Raul Cota
I realize we may be a minority but it would be very nice if support for numeric could be kept for a few more versions. We don't have any particular needs for numarray. We just under went through an extremely long and painful process to upgrade our software