On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:15 AM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 6:43 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Charles R Harris
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On
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:15 AM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 6:43 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 29,
So this petered off...any objections to np.full?
On 29 Jun 2013 05:03, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
Hi all,
It looks like we've gotten a bit confused and need to untangle
something. There's a PR to add new functions
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
So this petered off...any objections to np.full?
full and filledwith and filled_with all seem OK to me.
On a meta note - anything we can do to stop threads petering off? It
seems to happen rather often,
Cheers,
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
So this petered off...any objections to np.full?
full and filledwith and filled_with all seem OK to me.
same here, filled_with_like might
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
So this petered off...any objections to np.full?
How about `np.inited` ? `full` doesn't sound quite right to me. Although I
expect once it comes into use everyone will get used to it.
snip
Chuck
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Charles R Harris
charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
So this petered off...any objections to np.full?
How about `np.inited` ? `full` doesn't sound quite right to me. Although I
expect
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 6:43 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Charles R Harris
charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
So this petered off...any objections to np.full?
No objection.
On 6/29/2013 3:00 PM, Nathaniel wrote:
any objections to np.full?
Still curious:
why isn't ``tile`` the right name?
(It already exists.)
import numpy as np
np.tile(3.0, (2,3))
array([[ 3., 3., 3.],
[ 3., 3., 3.]])
If someone explained this, sorry to
have missed it.
Alan
On 6/29/2013 3:00 PM, Nathaniel wrote:
any objections to np.full?
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Alan G Isaac wrote:
Still curious:
why isn't ``tile`` the right name?
(It already exists.)
import numpy as np
np.tile(3.0, (2,3))
array([[ 3., 3., 3.],
[ 3., 3., 3.]])
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Alan G Isaac alan.is...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/29/2013 3:00 PM, Nathaniel wrote:
any objections to np.full?
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Alan G Isaac wrote:
Still curious:
why isn't ``tile`` the right name?
(It already exists.)
import numpy as
and I don't see the problem with ``tile_like``.
On 6/29/2013 6:15 PM, Robert Kern wrote:
It makes no sense except in the scalar case.
I would think it makes sense in every case that
can be normally broadcast to the shape of the
paradigm array.
Anyway, I drop the suggestion.
Cheers,
Alan
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On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 7:15 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
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On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 6:43 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Charles R Harris
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On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Charles R Harris
charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 7:15 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com
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On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 6:43 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
Hi all,
It looks like we've gotten a bit confused and need to untangle
something. There's a PR to add new functions 'np.filled' and
'np.filled_like':
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/2875
And there was a discussion
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:06 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
On 2013/06/13 10:36 AM, Benjamin Root wrote:
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Aldcroft, Thomas
aldcr...@head.cfa.harvard.edu
On 6/14/2013 9:27 AM, Aldcroft, Thomas wrote:
If I just saw np.values(..) in some code I would never guess what it is doing
from the name
That suggests np.fromvalues.
But more important than the name I think
is allowing broadcasting of the values,
based on NumPy's broadcasting rules.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Phil Hodge ho...@stsci.edu wrote:
I would interpret np.filled as a test, asking whether the array is
filled. If the function is supposed to do something related to
assigning values, the name should be a verb.
That's a plausible convention, but it's not the
On 2013/06/14 5:15 AM, Alan G Isaac wrote:
On 6/14/2013 9:27 AM, Aldcroft, Thomas wrote:
If I just saw np.values(..) in some code I would never guess what it is
doing from the name
That suggests np.fromvalues.
But more important than the name I think
is allowing broadcasting of the values,
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
On 2013/06/14 5:15 AM, Alan G Isaac wrote:
On 6/14/2013 9:27 AM, Aldcroft, Thomas wrote:
If I just saw np.values(..) in some code I would never guess what it is
doing from the name
That suggests np.fromvalues.
But more
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
On 2013/06/12 2:10 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
Personally I think that overloading np.empty is horribly ugly, will
continue confusing newbies and everyone else indefinitely, and I'm
100% convinced that we'll regret
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
On 2013/06/14 5:15 AM, Alan G Isaac wrote:
On 6/14/2013 9:27 AM, Aldcroft, Thomas wrote:
If I just saw np.values(..) in some code I would never
On 2013/06/14 5:15 AM, Alan G Isaac wrote:
But more important than the name I think
is allowing broadcasting of the values,
based on NumPy's broadcasting rules.
Broadcasting a scalar is then a special case,
even if it is the case that has dominated this thread.
On 6/14/2013 1:18 PM, Eric
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
On 2013/06/12 2:10 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
Personally I think that overloading np.empty is horribly ugly, will
continue confusing newbies and
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
On 2013/06/12 2:10 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
Despite heroic efforts on the part
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
On 2013/06/12 8:13 AM, Warren Weckesser wrote:
That's why I suggested 'filledwith' (add the underscore if you like).
This also allows a corresponding masked implementation, 'ma.filledwith',
without clobbering the
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Aldcroft, Thomas
aldcr...@head.cfa.harvard.edu wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
On 2013/06/12 8:13 AM, Warren Weckesser wrote:
That's why I suggested 'filledwith' (add the underscore if you like).
This also
On 2013/06/13 10:36 AM, Benjamin Root wrote:
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Aldcroft, Thomas
aldcr...@head.cfa.harvard.edu mailto:aldcr...@head.cfa.harvard.edu
wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu
mailto:efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
On
On 6/13/2013 4:36 PM, Benjamin Root wrote:
np.values() might be a decent alternative.
This could then reasonably support broadcasting
from the shape of the input to the shape of
the array.
Alan Isaac
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On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
On 2013/06/13 10:36 AM, Benjamin Root wrote:
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Aldcroft, Thomas
aldcr...@head.cfa.harvard.edu mailto:aldcr...@head.cfa.harvard.edu
wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Eric Firing
Hi all,
It looks like we've gotten a bit confused and need to untangle
something. There's a PR to add new functions 'np.filled' and
'np.filled_like':
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/2875
And there was a discussion about this on the list back in January:
On 12/06/2013 14:10, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
It looks like we've gotten a bit confused and need to untangle
something. There's a PR to add new functions 'np.filled' and
'np.filled_like':
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/2875
And there was a discussion about this on the list back in
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
Hi all,
It looks like we've gotten a bit confused and need to untangle
something. There's a PR to add new functions 'np.filled' and
'np.filled_like':
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/2875
And there was a
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Daniele Nicolodi dani...@grinta.net wrote:
There where the additional proposal (mostly neglected on the original
thread) to add the 'fill' optional parameter to the array constructor:
np.ndarray(shape, fill=value)
has an obvious meaning to me.
I also don't
--Pierre GMSent with AirmailOn June 12, 2013 at 14:10:27, Nathaniel Smith (n...@pobox.com) wrote: Hi all,It looks like we've gotten a bit confused and need to untanglesomething. There's a PR to add new functions 'np.filled' and'np.filled_like':https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/2875And there was
On 12/06/2013 14:29, Robert Kern wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Daniele Nicolodi dani...@grinta.net wrote:
There where the additional proposal (mostly neglected on the original
thread) to add the 'fill' optional parameter to the array constructor:
np.ndarray(shape, fill=value)
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Daniele Nicolodi dani...@grinta.net wrote:
On 12/06/2013 14:29, Robert Kern wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Daniele Nicolodi dani...@grinta.net wrote:
There where the additional proposal (mostly neglected on the original
thread) to add the 'fill'
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Daniele Nicolodi dani...@grinta.net wrote:
On 12/06/2013 14:29, Robert Kern wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Daniele Nicolodi dani...@grinta.net wrote:
There where the additional proposal (mostly neglected on the original
thread) to add the 'fill'
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
Personally I think that overloading np.empty is horribly ugly, will
continue confusing newbies and everyone else indefinitely, and I'm
100%
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
Personally I think that overloading np.empty is horribly ugly, will
Hi,
Le 12/06/2013 16:18, Nathaniel Smith a écrit :
Now imagine a new version of this page, if we add 'filled'. There will
be a list at the top with functions named:
empty
filled
ones
zeros
It's immediately obvious what all of these things do, and how they
differ from each other,
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Warren Weckesser
warren.weckes...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Nathaniel Smith
Le 12/06/2013 16:18, Nathaniel Smith a écrit :
Now imagine a new version of this page, if we add 'filled'. There will
be a list at the top with functions named:
empty
filled
ones
zeros
It's immediately obvious what all of these things do, and how they
differ from each other,
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Alan G Isaac alan.is...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/12/2013 10:49 AM, Pierre Haessig wrote:
I find the docs would look nice and consistent argument pretty convincing.
+1 for np.filled.
In Maple and Mathematica, these are called constant arrays.
Thus (?) another
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
Personally I think that overloading np.empty is horribly ugly, will
On 12 June 2013 17:29, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
+2 on this.
I like a good name like `filled` for a function that I expect to use
regularly.
it's short and descriptive.
FTIW, I am for this one too. That is not only clear, but a name that
one may try even before checking the docs.
On June 12, 2013 at 17:56:33, Daπid (davidmen...@gmail.com) wrote: On 12 June 2013 17:29, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: +2 on this. I like a good name like `filled` for a function that I expect to use regularly. it's short and descriptive.FTIW, I am for this one too. That is not only clear, but a
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
Personally I think that overloading np.empty is horribly ugly, will
continue confusing newbies and everyone else indefinitely, and I'm
100% convinced that we'll regret implementing such a warty interface
for something that
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
Personally I think that overloading np.empty is horribly ugly, will
continue confusing newbies and everyone else indefinitely,
On 12 Jun 2013 18:20, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
Personally I think that overloading np.empty is horribly
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote:
On 12 Jun 2013 18:20, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Nathaniel Smith
On 2013/06/12 2:10 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
Hi all,
It looks like we've gotten a bit confused and need to untangle
something. There's a PR to add new functions 'np.filled' and
'np.filled_like':
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/2875
And there was a discussion about this on the list
On 2013/06/12 4:18 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
Now imagine a different new version of this page, if we overload
'empty' to add a fill= option. I don't even know how we document that
on this page. The list will remain:
empty
ones
zeros
Opposite of empty: full. So that is another
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
On 2013/06/12 4:18 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
Now imagine a different new version of this page, if we overload
'empty' to add a fill= option. I don't even know how we document that
on this page. The list will remain:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
On 2013/06/12 4:18 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
Now imagine a different new version of this page, if we overload
'empty' to add a fill= option. I don't even know how we document that
on this page. The list will remain:
On 2013/06/12 8:13 AM, Warren Weckesser wrote:
That's why I suggested 'filledwith' (add the underscore if you like).
This also allows a corresponding masked implementation, 'ma.filledwith',
without clobbering the existing 'ma.filled'.
Consensus on np.filled? absolutely not, you do not have a
On 06/12/2013 02:55 PM, Eric Firing wrote:
Consensus on np.filled? absolutely not, you do not have a consensus.
I would interpret np.filled as a test, asking whether the array is
filled. If the function is supposed to do something related to
assigning values, the name should be a verb.
Phil
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Phil Hodge ho...@stsci.edu wrote:
On 06/12/2013 02:55 PM, Eric Firing wrote:
I would interpret np.filled as a test, asking whether the array is
filled. If the function is supposed to do something related to
assigning values, the name should be a verb.
or a
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