[Numpy-discussion] [ANN] IPython 0.12 is out!

2011-12-19 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi all, on behalf of the IPython development team, I'm thrilled to announce, after an intense 4 1/2 months of work, the official release of IPython 0.12. This is a very important release for IPython, for several reasons. First and foremost, we have a major new feature, our interactive web-based

[Numpy-discussion] Download page still points to SVN

2012-01-18 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, I was just pointing a colleague to the 'official download page' for numpy so he could find how to grab current sources: http://new.scipy.org/download.html but I was quite surprised to find that it still points to SVN for both numpy and scipy. It would probably not be a bad idea to

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Download page still points to SVN

2012-01-18 Thread Fernando Perez
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Scott Sinclair scott.sinclair...@gmail.com wrote: It's rather confusing having two websites. The official page at http://www.scipy.org/Download points to github. The problem is that this page, which looks pretty official to just about anyone:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Download page still points to SVN

2012-01-18 Thread Fernando Perez
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Scott Sinclair scott.sinclair...@gmail.com wrote: I think (as usual), the problem is that fixing the situation lies on the shoulders of people who are already heavily overburdened.. I certainly understand that problem, as I'm eternally behind on a million

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Download page still points to SVN

2012-01-19 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: I'm not even sure how the web-pages get updated at this point.   Does anyone on this list know?    I think it would be a great idea to move to github pages for the NumPy project at least. We've moved to the following

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Download page still points to SVN

2012-01-19 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Ognen Duzlevski og...@enthought.com wrote: ipython.org used to live on scipy.org machine - as far as I can tell the only thing still on the scipy.org machine related to ipython are the dev and user mailing lists (via mailman) hosted at projects.scipy.org.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Migrating issues to GitHub

2012-02-11 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote: The lack of attachments is the main problem with this transition. It's not so seldom that numerical input data or scripts demonstrating an issue come useful. This is probably less of an issue for Numpy than for Scipy, though.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Commit rights to NumPy for Francesc Alted

2012-02-11 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: I propose to give Francesc Alted commit rights to the NumPy project. I'm only surprised he didn't have them already, given how much he has contributed over the years! I remember when numpy was reaching 1.0 stage, the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Issue Tracking

2012-02-13 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: I have the impression that the Cython / SAGE team are happy with their Jenkins configuration. So are we in IPython, thanks to Thomas Kluyver's recent leadership on this front it's now running quite smoothly:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [Enthought-Dev] Discussion with Guido van Rossum and (hopefully) core python-dev on scientific Python and Python3

2012-02-13 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Travis Vaught tra...@vaught.net wrote: - Extra operators/PEP 225.  Here's a summary from the last time we went over this, years ago at Scipy 2008: http://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2008-October/038234.html, and the current status of the document

[Numpy-discussion] Discussion with Guido van Rossum and (hopefully) core python-dev on scientific Python and Python3

2012-02-14 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, [ I'm broadcasting this widely for maximum reach, but I'd appreciate it if replies can be kept to the *numpy* list, which is sort of the 'base' list for scientific/numerical work. It will make it much easier to organize a coherent set of notes later on. Apology if you're subscribed to

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [cython-users] Discussion with Guido van Rossum and (hopefully) core python-dev on scientific Python and Python3

2012-02-14 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: I will be at pydata, so I can try to get an elevator pitch ready for the packaging situation. Awesome! I didn't realize you were coming, and you're obviously the person I had in mind for this job :) Cheers, f

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [IPython-dev] Discussion with Guido van Rossum and (hopefully) core python-dev on scientific Python and Python3

2012-02-14 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no wrote: It was about the need for a dedicated matrix multiplication operator. has anyone proposed that? I do think we've had a proposal on

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Download page still points to SVN

2012-02-15 Thread Fernando Perez
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Ognen Duzlevski og...@enthought.com wrote: It looks like numpy.org already redirects to numpy.scipy.org. So I think redirecting numpy.scipy.org to github should do the right thing I can do this - can I assume there is consensus that majority wants this done?

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

2012-02-28 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Bryan Van de Ven bry...@continuum.io wrote: Just my own $0.02 regarding this issue: I am in favor of using C++ for numpy, I think it could confer various benefits. However, I am also in favor of explicitly deciding and documenting what subset of C++ features

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

2012-02-28 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: We already use the NEP process for such decisions.   This discussion came from simply from the *idea* of writing such a NEP. Nothing has been decided.  Only opinions have been shared that might influence the NEP.  

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

2012-02-29 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Mark Wiebe mwwi...@gmail.com wrote: The development approach I really like is to start with a relatively rough NEP, then cycle through feedback, updating the NEP, and implementation. Organizing ones thoughts to describe them in a design document can often

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN] PyData workshop videos are up online, including panel with Guido

2012-03-22 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi all, just to let you know that the videos from the PyData workshop we held at Google a couple of weeks ago are now online (not all talks are up yet, so watch the page over the next few days if a talk you wanted to see isn't posted yet):

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-16 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: That's the first time I've heard this. Until now, we have talked a lot about adding bitmasks and API changes, not about complete removal. My assumption was that the experimental label was enough. From Nathaniel's

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: I'm glad to hear that discussion is happening, but please do have it on list.   If it's off list it easy for people to feel they are being bypassed, and that the public discussion is not important. I'm afraid I have

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: Right - but that would be an absurd overstatement of what I said. There's no point in addressing something I didn't say and no sensible person would think.   Indeed, it makes the discussion harder. Well, in that

[Numpy-discussion] [Meta] Was: Re: Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Perez
[ Making a separate thread so the NA one can stay on topic, since I haven't actually followed the discussion well enough to contribute on the technical points ] On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: The absurd over-statement is the following: I'm

[Numpy-discussion] All of the PyData videos are now up at the Marakana site

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, A number of you expressed interest in attending the PyData workshop last month and unfortunately we had very tight space restrictions. But thanks to the team at Marakana, who pitched in and were willing to film, edit and post videos for many of the talks, you can access them all here:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-20 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: I recall discossion a couple times in the past of having some special-case numpy arrays for the simple, small cases -- perhaps 1-d or 2-d C-contiguous only, for instance. That might be a better way to address the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-20 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no wrote: I don't think you gain that much by using a different type though? Those optimized code paths could be plugged into NumPy as well. Could be: this was years ago, and the bottleneck for me was in the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-22 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi Nathaniel, thanks for a solid writeup of this topic. I just want to add a note from personal experience, regarding this specific point: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: Usually disagreements are an indication that a better solution is possible, even

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: That is an excellent thought. We could make the odd numbered releases experimental and the even-numbered as stable. That makes some sense.    What do others think? I think the concern with that is manpower: it

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Stéfan van der Walt ste...@sun.ac.za wrote: If you are referring to the traditional concept of a fork, and not to the type we frequently make on GitHub, then I'm surprised that no one has objected already.  What would a fork solve? To paraphrase the regexp

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-24 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: I admit to a certain curiosity about your own involvement in FOSS projects, and I know I'm not alone in this. Google shows several years of discussion on Monotone, but I have no idea what your contributions were

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-24 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Fernando, I'm not checking credentials, I'm curious. Well, at least I think that an inquisitive query about someone's background, phrased like that, can be very easily misread. I can only speak for myself, but I

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-24 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Turnover is a problem with open source, and no matter how much discussion there is, if people aren't doing the work the whole thing sort of peters out. That's very true, and I hope that by building a friendly

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-24 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:02 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry that I missed this part of numpy history, I always had the impression that numpy is run by a community led by Chuck and the young guys, David, Pauli, Stefan, Pierre; and Robert on the mailing list . (But I came late, and am

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Fernando Perez
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote: It would be nice if every pull request created a message to this list.  Is that even possible? -Travis This ha been a concern of mine for matplotlib as well.  The closest I can come is to set up an RSS feed, but all the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Issue Tracking

2012-05-01 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, sorry for not jumping in before, swamped with deadlines... On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: I've been pretty impressed with the lemonade that the IPython folks have made out of what I see as pretty limiting shortcomings of the github

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Issue Tracking

2012-05-01 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: This example indicates that basing  your decision on what it is like *today* may not be valid either.  You'd hope that they won't do Very true ;) Anyway, like everyone else has said, Ralf, Pauli, et. al. are really

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Issue Tracking

2012-05-01 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree that a good search facility is essential, and not keyword/tag based. Github issues does have full-text search, and up until now I haven't really had too many problems with it. No sophisticated

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Issue Tracking

2012-05-01 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:04 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: maybe searching issues and pull requests is ok. The problem is that in statsmodels we did a lot of commits without pull requests, and I'm not very good searching in git either. (I don't remember which change I looked for but I got

[Numpy-discussion] Fwd: [SIAM-CSE] pOSKI - Autotuner for parallel sparse-matrix-vector

2012-05-05 Thread Fernando Perez
Interesting, given the recent discussion on sparsity... -- Forwarded message -- From: James Demmel dem...@eecs.berkeley.edu Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM Subject: [SIAM-CSE] pOSKI - Autotuner for parallel sparse-matrix-vector multiplication To: siam-...@siam.org We are

[Numpy-discussion] Fwd: [SIAM-CSE] pOSKI - Autotuner for parallel sparse-matrix-vector multiplication

2012-05-05 Thread Fernando Perez
Interesting, given the recent discussion on sparsity... -- Forwarded message -- From: James Demmel dem...@eecs.berkeley.edu Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM Subject: [SIAM-CSE] pOSKI - Autotuner for parallel sparse-matrix-vector multiplication To: siam-...@siam.org We are

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-11 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Scott Sinclair scott.sinclair...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it, a page on the website isn't a bad idea. I've added a note pointing to this discussion. The document now appears at http://numpy.scipy.org/NA-overview.html Why not have a separate repo

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-11 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Scott Sinclair scott.sinclair...@gmail.com wrote: That's pretty much how things already work. The documentation is in the main source tree and built docs end up at http://docs.scipy.org. NEPs live at https://github.com/numpy/numpy/tree/master/doc/neps, but

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Should arr.diagonal() return a copy or a view? (1.7 compatibility issue)

2012-05-16 Thread Fernando Perez
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: I tried checking this before, actually, but can't figure out how to build scipy against a copy of numpy that is installed in either a virtualenv or just on PYTHONPATH. (Basically, I just don't want to install some random

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Should arr.diagonal() return a copy or a view? (1.7 compatibility issue)

2012-05-16 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: I have lying around my homedir that it would generally be a free speed win Don't forget the case where the copy semantics may actually provide an *improvement* in performance by allowing a potentially large array to get

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN] Cell magics in IPython master

2012-05-27 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, [ Sorry for the slightly off-topic post, but I know that a number of people on this list have long wanted more seamless ways to integrate with tools like Cython and R, and you may not necessarily follow the ipython lists...] I'm excited to report that we now have cell magics in

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [ANN] Cell magics in IPython master

2012-05-27 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi Nathaniel, On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: You guys are probably aware, but just in case, note that there's an earlier (quite featureful) version of this idea included in the old rnumpy code:  https://bitbucket.org/njs/rnumpy/wiki/IPython_integration

Re: [Numpy-discussion] commit rights for Nathaniel

2012-06-05 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: There are other advantages to pulling down the patch. Fixups can be merged together, commit comments enhanced, whitespace removed, style cleanups can be added, tests can be run, and the PR is automatically

[Numpy-discussion] Is IPython useful for your research/industry work? Feedback wanted for grant proposal.

2012-06-22 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, sorry for the cross-post, but I expect all replies to this to happen off-list. I'm in the process of writing an NSF grant that will partly include IPython support, and along with Brian we will soon be doing more of the same. In the past we haven't had the best of luck with the NFS,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-25 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: You are still missing the point that there was already a choice that was made in the previous class --- made in Numeric actually. You made a change to that.  It is the change that is 'gratuitous'. As someone who

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-25 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Fernando Perez wrote: For context, consider that for many years, the word gratuitous has been used in a non-derogatory way in the Python ecosystem to describe changes to semantics

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-25 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: I agree a decision needs to be made.   I think we will need to break the ABI.    At this point, I don't know of any pressing features that would require it short of NumPy 2.0. Sorry, I don't quite know how to parse

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-25 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: Eventually we will need to break the ABI.   We might as well wait until 2.0 at this point. Ah, got it; thanks for the clarification, I just didn't understand the original. Cheers, f

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: One issues is the one that Sage identified about the array interface regression as noted by Jason.    Any other regressions from 1.5.x need to be addressed as well.    We'll have to decide on a case-by-case basis if

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Ondřej Čertík ondrej.cer...@gmail.com wrote: Do you use anything else besides Travis CI? Yes, we use both Shining Panda and Travis CI: https://jenkins.shiningpanda.com/ipython/ http://travis-ci.org/#!/ipython/ipython The SP setup is more complete, including Mac

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-27 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: ... What should have happened in this case, in my mind, is that NumPy 1.4.0 should have been 1.5.0 and advertised that there was a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-27 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote:  I just want to speak up for the people who are affected by API breakage who are not as vocal on this list. Certainly! And indeed I bet you that's a community underrepresented here: those of us who are on this list

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-28 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: Python in fact has the __future__ imports that help quite a bit for people to start adapting their codes.  How about creating a numpy.future module where new, non-backward-compatible APIs could go? That would give the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Meta: help, devel and stackoverflow

2012-06-28 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: I see that sympy, for example, has only one mailing list, and that works extremely well.  I'd be interested to hear from the Cython and IPython guys as to whether they feel the user / devel split has helped or hurt.  

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Meta: help, devel and stackoverflow

2012-06-28 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: Fernando - you told me a week or so ago that you'd come across a blog post or similar advocating a single list - do you remember the reference? Found it after some digging: http://www.kitware.com/blog/home/post/263

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Meta: help, devel and stackoverflow

2012-06-28 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM, srean srean.l...@gmail.com wrote:  What I like about having two lists is that on one hand it does not prevent me or you from participating in both, on the other hand it allows those who dont want to delve too deeply in one aspect or the other, the option of a

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN] IPython 0.13 is officially out!

2012-06-30 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi all, on behalf of the IPython development team, and just in time for the imminent Debian freeze and SciPy 2012, I'm thrilled to announce, after an intense 6 months of work, the official release of IPython 0.13. This version contains several major new features, as well as a large amount of bug

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Meta: help, devel and stackoverflow

2012-06-30 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: As a matter of interest - do y'all hang out much on stackexchange?  I notice that I often go to stackexchange for a good answer, but it doesn't seem that good for - discussion.  Or maybe it's just I'm not used to it.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Meta: help, devel and stackoverflow

2012-06-30 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: I'm curious: do you mean using stackexchange.com itself, or using http://scicomp.stackexchange.com/ specifically? I meant the latter, which seems like it would be the best suited for the topic of this discussion.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Meta: help, devel and stackoverflow

2012-06-30 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no wrote: It is rumored that a problem with some stackexchange sites is the host of nay-sayers saying that a question doesn't belong here but in this other silo instead, instead of just letting a culture develop

[Numpy-discussion] Fwd: an interesting single-file, cross-platform Python deployment tool.

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi all, sorry for the slightly off-topic post, but I know that in our community many people often struggle with deployment issues (to colleagues, to experimental/hardware control machines, to one-off test machines, ...). I just stumbled upon this announcement by accident, and figured it might

[Numpy-discussion] Multivariate hypergeometric distribution?

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi all, in recent work with a colleague, the need came up for a multivariate hypergeometric sampler; I had a look in the numpy code and saw we have the bivariate version, but not the multivariate one. I had a look at the code in scipy.stats.distributions, and it doesn't look too difficult to add

Re: [Numpy-discussion] import numpy performance

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Dalke da...@dalkescientific.com wrote: so the relevant timing test is more likely: % time python -c 'import numpy.core.multiarray' 0.086u 0.031s 0:00.12 91.6% 0+0k 0+0io 0pf+0w No, that's the wrong thing to test, because it effectively amounts to

Re: [Numpy-discussion] import numpy performance

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Andrew Dalke da...@dalkescientific.com wrote: Thus, I don't see any way that I can import 'multiarray' directly, because the underlying C code is the one which imports 'numpy.core.multiarray' and by design it is inaccessible to change from Python code. I was

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Buildbot status

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
Useful-looking: http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/CompileFarm ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Multivariate hypergeometric distribution?

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Skipper Seabold jsseab...@gmail.com wrote: I could be wrong, but I think PyMC has sampling and likelihood. It appears you're right! http://pymc-devs.github.com/pymc/distributions.html?highlight=hypergeometric#pymc.distributions.multivariate_hypergeometric_like

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Multivariate hypergeometric distribution?

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Fernando Perez fperez@gmail.com wrote: It appears you're right! http://pymc-devs.github.com/pymc/distributions.html?highlight=hypergeometric#pymc.distributions.multivariate_hypergeometric_like Furthermore, the code actually calls a sampler implemented

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Github notifications and trac-to-github migration

2012-07-24 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi Thouis, On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Thouis (Ray) Jones tho...@gmail.com wrote: I would estimate I'm between a fourth and halfway through the implementation of the trac-to-github-issues migration code. The work lives in at https://github.com/thouis/numpy-trac-migration mmh, I would

[Numpy-discussion] Fwd: Github notifications and trac-to-github migration

2012-07-26 Thread Fernando Perez
/7/26 Aric Hagberg aric.hagb...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:51 AM, Thouis (Ray) Jones tho...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Fernando Perez fperez@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thouis, On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Thouis (Ray) Jones tho...@gmail.com wrote: I would

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Synonym standards

2012-07-27 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Derek Homeier de...@astro.physik.uni-goettingen.de wrote: thanks, that was exactly what I was looking for - together with c.TerminalIPythonApp.exec_lines = ['import sys', 'import numpy as np',

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN] Call for abstracts: BigData minisymposium at CSE'13, February 2013, Boston

2012-08-23 Thread Fernando Perez
directly at: C. Titus Brown c...@msu.edu, Fernando Perez fernando.pe...@berkeley.edu with your name and affiliation, the title of your proposed talk and a brief description (actual abstracts are due later so an informal description will suffice for now), by Wednesday August 29. For more details

[Numpy-discussion] A sad day for our community. John Hunter: 1968-2012.

2012-08-30 Thread Fernando Perez
Dear friends and colleagues, I am terribly saddened to report that yesterday, August 28 2012 at 10am, John D. Hunter died from complications arising from cancer treatment at the University of Chicago hospital, after a brief but intense battle with this terrible illness. John is survived by his

[Numpy-discussion] John Hunter's memorial service

2012-09-07 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi all, I have just received the following information from John's family regarding the memorial service: John's memorial service will be held on Monday, October 1, 2012, at 11.a.m. at Rockefeller Chapel at the University of Chicago. The exact address is 5850 S. Woodlawn Ave, Chicago, IL 60615.

[Numpy-discussion] John Hunter has been awarded the first Distinguished Service Award by the PSF

2012-09-14 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, you may have already seen this, but in case you haven't, I'm thrilled to share that the Python Software Foundation has just created its newest and highest distinction, the Distinguished Service Award, and has chosen John as its first recipient:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Making numpy sensible: backward compatibility please

2012-09-28 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Bitch, bitch, bitch. Look, I know you are pissed and venting a bit, but this problem could have been detected and reported 6 months ago, that is, unless it is new due to development on your end. It would be

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Issue tracking

2012-10-19 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: Kudos! Ray. Very impressive and useful work. Indeed, many thanks, Ray!! This has been a ton of work, and somewhat thankless b/c it's for a one-off thing. What I did for our lanunchpad bug migration was a far more

Re: [Numpy-discussion] print array in a form that can then be input

2012-10-20 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Daπid davidmen...@gmail.com wrote: a=np.arange(10) print a [0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9] repr(a) 'array([0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9])' Note that you don't need to explicitly call repr() at the interactive prompt: by default, Python prints the repr of an object

[Numpy-discussion] In case anybody wants them: py4science.* domains...

2012-11-21 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, years ago, John Hunter and I bought the py4science.{com, org, info} domains thinking they might be useful. We never did anything with them, and with his passing I realized I'm not really in the mood to keep renewing them without a clear goal in mind. Does anybody here want to do

Re: [Numpy-discussion] In case anybody wants them: py4science.* domains...

2012-11-27 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Peter Cock p.j.a.c...@googlemail.com wrote: Perhaps http://numfocus.org/ could take them on, or the PSF? (even if they don't have a specific use in mind immediately) For the short them I'd just have them redirect to www.scipy.org ;) I asked on the numfocus

Re: [Numpy-discussion] New numpy functions: filled, filled_like

2013-01-18 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: I personally find 'fill' OK. I'd read: a = np.empty((10, 10), fill=np.nan) as make an empty array shape (10, 10) and fill with nans Which would indeed be what the code was doing :) So I doubt that the

[Numpy-discussion] Python trademark in legal trouble in Europe, please help

2013-02-15 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi all, please do NOT respond to this thread or to me directly. This is strictly to spread this message as widely as possible, so that anyone who receives it and can act on it does so. Needless to say, do forward this to anyone you think might be in a position to take useful action. The Python

Re: [Numpy-discussion] A new webpage promoting Compiler technology for CPython

2013-02-16 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: We should take this discussion off list. Just as a bystander interested in this: why? It seems that OCL is within the scope of what's being proposed and another entrant into the vibrant new world of compiler-extended

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [numfocus] Re: A new webpage promoting Compiler technology for CPython

2013-02-16 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.io wrote: If you want to discuss this in public. Let's have the discussion over at numfo...@googlegroups.com until a more specific list is created. Sounds good. I actually think numfocus is a great list for these kind of

Re: [Numpy-discussion] add .H attribute?

2013-07-23 Thread Fernando Perez
the extra () are indicative that something potentially big/expensive is happening... Cheers, f -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct mail

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN] IPython 1.0 is finally released, nearly 12 years in the making!

2013-08-08 Thread Fernando Perez
Dev Team. -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct mail ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org

[Numpy-discussion] A bug in numpy.random.shuffle?

2013-09-05 Thread Fernando Perez
. Is this my misuse? It really looks like a bug to me... Cheers, f -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct mail

Re: [Numpy-discussion] A bug in numpy.random.shuffle?

2013-09-05 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, nice one ;) Should be fixable if you want to submit a patch. Strategy? One option is to do, for structured arrays, a shuffle of the indices and then an in-place arr = arr[shuffled_indices] But there may be

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN, x-post] Creating a space for scientific open source at Berkeley (with UW and NYU)

2013-11-13 Thread Fernando Perez
better conditions. Here are some additional resources for anyone interested: http://bitly.com/bundles/fperezorg/1 -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct mail

Re: [Numpy-discussion] RFC: is it worth giving a lightning talk at PyCon 2014 on numpy vbench-marking?

2013-11-25 Thread Fernando Perez
be scientific computing, I'd be happy to mention a few talks from our community in my slides. Cheers, f -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct mail

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [RFC] should we argue for a matrix power operator, @@?

2014-03-17 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Aron Ahmadia a...@ahmadia.net wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: The thread so far, it sounds like the consensus answer is meh, whatever. So I'm thinking we should just drop @@ from the PEP, and if it turns out

Re: [Numpy-discussion] PEP 465 has been accepted / volunteers needed

2014-04-07 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: Hey all, Guido just formally accepted PEP 465: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2014-April/133819.html http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0465/#implementation-details Congratulations!! Getting a PEP

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Wiki page for building numerical stuff onWindows

2014-04-15 Thread Fernando Perez
Quick question on this: has anyone looked at the Open Watcom compiler? There was a lighting talk at Pycon about a guy who's been working on getting Python itself to build on Windows with this compiler. I don't know if it might help in all this, if nothing else it mitght be good to have. This was

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Universal functions and introspection

2014-04-16 Thread Fernando Perez
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] SciPy 2014 BoF NumPy Participation

2014-06-28 Thread Fernando Perez
mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct mail

Re: [Numpy-discussion] SciPy 2014 BoF NumPy Participation

2014-06-28 Thread Fernando Perez
: On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Fernando Perez fperez@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I've just created a page on the numpy wiki: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/wiki/Numpy-BoF-at-Scipy-2014 I'd appreciate it if people could put down on that page the title of topics, plus a brief summary

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fwd: [Python-ideas] PEP pre-draft: Support for indexing with keyword arguments

2014-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
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[Numpy-discussion] Numpy BoF at SciPy 2014 - quick report

2014-07-17 Thread Fernando Perez
with array data. Boost::Python - Nothing official from numpy for using numpy arrays in C++ - Not prioritized. - Numpy has gotten better about namespace pollution? - It kind of works already. Talk to Mike Droettboom -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing

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