Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > I'm in a situation now where at least for 6 months or so I can help with > NumPy more than I have been able to for 7 years. > great news! > 1) 1 year of inactivity to be removed from the council is too little for a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Thomas Caswell wrote: > To respond to the devils advocate: > > Creating this organizational framework is a one time boot-strapping event. > You could use wording like "The initial council will include those who have > made significant

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

Thanks for the candid discussion and for expressing concerns freely. I think Nathaniel's "parenting" characterization of NumPy from me is pretty accurate.I do feel a responsibility for the *stuff* that's out there, and that is what drives me. I do see the many contributions from others and

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Fr, 2015-09-25 at 14:15 +, Thomas Caswell wrote: > To respond to the devils advocate: > > > Creating this organizational framework is a one time boot-strapping > event. You could use wording like "The initial council will include > those who have made significant contributions to numpy

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Marten van Kerkwijk wrote: [...] > > p.s. Independently of rules, I don't see how Travis would not qualify even > from current work, given that he has just committed to actively try to > improve/generalize dtype. Just to clarify what's

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:45 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Sebastian Berg > wrote: >> [...] >> About using the commit log to seed, I think there are some old term >> contributers (David Cournapeau maybe?), who

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

[Travis: sorry for writing all this referring to you in third person -- I guess it might feel a bit awkward to read! You're certainly part of the intended audience, but then it felt even more awkward trying to write in second person... this is clearly a bug in English.] Hi all, On Wed, Sep 23,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

To respond to the devils advocate: Creating this organizational framework is a one time boot-strapping event. You could use wording like "The initial council will include those who have made significant contributions to numpy in the past and want to be on it" or "The initial council will be

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

Hi Nathaniel, Piping in again from the outside: being on council would certainly seem to be a job not a privilege, and I suspect it will be hard enough to find people willing to actually put in work to worry about restricting membership overly. Given this, my suggestion would be to have a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Mi, 2015-09-23 at 19:48 -0500, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Charles R Harris > wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Chris Barker > wrote: > On Wed,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Mi, 2015-09-23 at 17:08 -0600, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Travis Oliphant > wrote: > > > Regarding the seed council, I just tried to pick an > objective >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Sebastian Berg wrote: > On Mi, 2015-09-23 at 17:08 -0600, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Travis Oliphant > > wrote: > > > > > > Regarding the seed council, I

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

> > > > [1] Sorry to "footnote" this, but I think I am probably rudely repeating > myself and frankly do **not want this to be discussed**. It is just to > try to be fully clear where I come from: > Until SciPy 2015, I could list many people on this list who have shown > more direct involvement in

[Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

[splitting this out from the thread-o-doom] On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal wrote: [snip] > So here is what I think is on the table: > > We have the steering council. Which leaves two questions: > > -How big should it be? > -Who will be on the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > > However, that had been contentious enough that it would probably be a > > good idea to hash out some guidelines about the council membership. > > We actually do have some of those already -- dunno if they're perfect, >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

> > Regarding the seed council, I just tried to pick an objective > criterion and an arbitrary date that seemed generally in keeping with > idea of "should be active in the last 1-to-2-years-ish". Fiddling with > the exact date in particular makes very little difference -- between > pushing it

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > As the original author of NumPy, I would like to be on the seed council as > long as it is larger than 7 people.That is my proposal. > Or the seed council could invite Travis to join as its first order of

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

If I were to be included in the steering council I suspect my main contribution would be to occasionally remind everyone that we are all committed to the success of the open scientific stack. Tom On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 3:40 PM Nathaniel Smith wrote: > [splitting this out from

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Travis Oliphant > wrote: > > >> As the original author of NumPy, I would like to be on the seed council >> as long as it is larger than 7 people.That is my

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

For what it is worth, I'm +1 on including any of the "founding fathers" (and uncles!) that wish to be included in the committee, or council, or however we ended up calling it. I'm also OK with singling out Travis as creator of NumPy in the wording of the document. Especially since the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > >> Regarding the seed council, I just tried to pick an objective >> criterion and an arbitrary date that seemed generally in keeping with >> idea of "should be active in the last 1-to-2-years-ish". Fiddling with >>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Jaime Fernández del Río < jaime.f...@gmail.com> wrote: > For what it is worth, I'm +1 on including any of the "founding fathers" > (and uncles!) that wish to be included in the committee, or council, or > however we ended up calling it. I'm also OK with singling

Re: [Numpy-discussion] composition of the steering council (was Re: Governance model request)

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Chris Barker > wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Travis Oliphant >> wrote: >> >> >>> As the original author of