Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Darren Dale
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM, David Cournapeaucourn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, I already gave my own opinion on py3k, which can be summarized as:  - it is a huge effort, and no core numpy/scipy developer has expressed

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Robert Kern
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 07:15, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com wrote: Another topic concerning documentation is API compatibility. The python devs have requested projects not use the 2-3 transition as an excuse to change their APIs, but numpy is maybe a special case. I'm thinking about PEP3118.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Darren Dale dsdal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM, David Cournapeaucourn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, I already gave my own opinion on py3k, which can be summarized

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
Darren Dale wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM, David Cournapeaucourn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, I already gave my own opinion on py3k, which can be summarized as: - it is a huge effort, and no core numpy/scipy

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Darren Dale
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harrischarlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Darren Dale dsdal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM, David Cournapeaucourn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: Darren Dale wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM, David Cournapeaucourn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, I already gave my own opinion on py3k, which can be summarized as: - it is a huge effort,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Christopher Barker
Robert Kern wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 07:15, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com wrote: We aren't supposed to break APIs that aren't related to the 2-3 transition. PEP3118 is related to the 2-3 transition. Since I'm that somebody that always pipes up about this topic, I'm pretty sure it hasn't

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Robert Kern
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:40, Christopher Barkerchris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: Robert Kern wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 07:15, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com wrote: We aren't supposed to break APIs that aren't related to the 2-3 transition. PEP3118 is related to the 2-3 transition. Since I'm

[Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread Darren Dale
I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching the Python Software Foundation about support to help get numpy working with python-3? Thanks, Darren ___

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread Darren Dale
Hi David, On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:56 PM, David Warde-Farleyd...@cs.toronto.edu wrote: Hey Darren, On 8-Sep-09, at 3:21 PM, Darren Dale wrote: I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching the Python

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread David Warde-Farley
Hey Darren, On 8-Sep-09, at 3:21 PM, Darren Dale wrote: I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching the Python Software Foundation about support to help get numpy working with python-3? It's a great

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread Christian Heimes
Darren Dale wrote: I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching the Python Software Foundation about support to help get numpy working with python-3? What kind of support are you talking about?

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread Charles R Harris
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Christian Heimes li...@cheimes.de wrote: Darren Dale wrote: I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching the Python Software Foundation about support to help get numpy

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread Darren Dale
Hi David, On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:08 PM, David Cournapeaucourn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, I already gave my own opinion on py3k, which can be summarized as:  - it is a huge effort, and no core numpy/scipy developer has expressed the urge to transition to py3k, since py3k does not bring much for

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:08 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote:  - it remains to be seen whether we can do the py3k support in the same source tree as the one use for python = 2.4. Having two source trees would make the effort even much bigger, well over the current developers

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching the Python Software Foundation about support to help get numpy working with python-3? I