Re: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread nymare
Thank you, John, for your support in all of this, like you I normally do not like to get involved in these sort of things. I am one of those who sent hateful "snarly" emails to Mr.Phillips. As someone who feels it is a gift to be able to walk the trails of the Nature Conservacy at Stissing

Re: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread Mardi Dickinson
Dear John et al, Well done John Thank you! What did JPHILLIPOBRIEN not here that the three of you said LOAD & CLEAR and I quote! "so we advised him that he could get a better look down the nearby preserve's trail, where it terminated at the border of private property". Also on his blog,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread Arie Gilbert
Rule 1. Trespassing is always wrong. It does not matter if you are a birder, photographer, or {sheesh} on an Arthurian quest. In reading the blog post, there appears to be a lot of "rationalization. " see rule 1. It pays to mention, that if one gets or has prior permission, that is not

Re: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread Phil Jeffrey
I'd agree with "many photographers", but disagree with *most*. The first ebirdsnyc post is just sightings, so not of any interest apart from the link to the blog. The followup is interesting in its set of rationales, some perhaps bizarre, as cited by John. The blog gives some idea of how far he

Re: Re: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread John Askildsen
thank you for your publicly posted comments, andrew. i was just informed that he was in fact told by another birder in the know, while standing at the end of that trail, that the properties beyond him were private and off limits. he apparently ignored that information and went out there anyway,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread Andrew Block
From: John Askildsen To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 11:34:05 AM Subject: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior to all,  this is a long post and to those who object for the length, i apologize in advance. please feel free

[nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread John Askildsen
to all,  this is a long post and to those who object for the length, i apologize in advance. please feel free to depress the delete key. but if you take the time to read it, you may well be quite impressed with how moronic/self-centered some people can be about their needs vs. the welfare of

[nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread John Askildsen
to all,this is a long post and to those who object for the length, i apologize in advance. please feel free to depress the delete key. but if you take the time to read it, youmay well be quite impressed with how moronic/self-centered some people can be about their needs vs. the welfare of wildlife

Re: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread Andrew Block
From: John Askildsen askild...@verizon.net To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 11:34:05 AM Subject: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior to all,  this is a long post and to those who object for the length, i apologize in advance

Re: Re: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread John Askildsen
thank you for your publicly posted comments, andrew. i was just informed that he was in fact told by another birder in the know, while standing at the end of that trail, that the properties beyond him were private and off limits. he apparently ignored that information and went out there anyway,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread Phil Jeffrey
I'd agree with many photographers, but disagree with *most*. The first ebirdsnyc post is just sightings, so not of any interest apart from the link to the blog. The followup is interesting in its set of rationales, some perhaps bizarre, as cited by John. The blog gives some idea of how far he

Re: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread Arie Gilbert
Rule 1. Trespassing is always wrong. It does not matter if you are a birder, photographer, or {sheesh} on an Arthurian quest. In reading the blog post, there appears to be a lot of rationalization. see rule 1. It pays to mention, that if one gets or has prior permission, that is not

Re: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread Mardi Dickinson
Dear John et al, Well done John Thank you! What did JPHILLIPOBRIEN not here that the three of you said LOAD CLEAR and I quote! so we advised him that he could get a better look down the nearby preserve's trail, where it terminated at the border of private property. Also on his blog,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Another Example of Unethical Behavior

2011-02-22 Thread nymare
Thank you, John, for your support in all of this, like you I normally do not like to get involved in these sort of things. I am one of those who sent hateful snarly emails to Mr.Phillips. As someone who feels it is a gift to be able to walk the trails of the Nature Conservacy at Stissing