RE: [nysbirds-l] Sandhill Cranes

[jsparacin]

Sandhill cranes migrating. I wonder where they are going?  They are over NY and 
maybe NJ. 
I hope they like snow. We are expecting a nor’easter here and of course Boston. 
Has Wosey got her vittles in? 
I have to get some gas for my snow blower. 

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From: Michael Farina
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 11:11 AM
To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sandhill Cranes

Marine Nature Study Area, Nassau, New York, US
Mar 11, 2017 10:15 AM
Protocol: Incidental
Comments: A 1st (2) Sandhill Cranes heading west towards Oceanside 
Landfill but my have stopped in Oceanside Park, or any of the school fields 
between here and there.
1 species
 
Sandhill Crane  2 A 1st (2) Sandhill Cranes heading west towards 
Oceanside Landfill but my have stopped in Oceanside Park, or any of the school 
fields between here and there.
 
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Dept. Conservation & Waterways
Town of Hempstead
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Black-headed - Ring-billed Gull hybrid at Goat Island

[Shaibal Mitra]

Hi Willie and all,

Wow--what a neat-looking bird!

I can see the logic behind the identification: the combination of dark hood, 
white wing wedge, absence of white tips to the inner primaries and secondaries, 
and reddish bill and legs suggesting Black-headed Gull; and size, structure, 
extra dark in the outer primaries, and white apical spots on the outer 
primaries suggesting Ring-billed Gull.

But to me, this bird looks so unlike a Black-headed Gull that I remain puzzled. 
Specifically, it looks large, thick-necked, large-headed, broad-winged, and 
heavy-billed. Black-headed Gull is only half the mass of a Ring-billed Gull and 
very differently shaped, whereas this bird looks quite similar to Ring-billed 
Gull in overall size and structure. It is of course possible for hybrids to 
tilt toward one parent or the other in various ways, as opposed to showing 
intermediacy, but note that the Sullivan County bird from 2002 showed much more 
intermediacy in these very features (e.g., more obvious influence of 
Black-headed Gull in terms of size and shape). Looking more closely at the 
plumage, I also note that the hood seems to lack any of the brownish tones 
usually evident in Black-headed Gull, and that the mantle appears subtly darker 
than those of Ring-billed Gulls (Black-headed Gull is notably pale-mantled).

Although I'm not able to propose a better hypothesis at this point, I thought I 
would contribute these impressions.

Best,
Shai

From: bounce-121321009-11143...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-121321009-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Willie D'Anna 
[dannapot...@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:43 PM
To: 'Geneseebirds'; geneseebird...@geneseo.edu; 'David Suggs'; 'nysbirds-l'
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Black-headed - Ring-billed Gull hybrid at Goat Island

For the second straight day, a very rare BLACK-HEADED GULL – RING-BILLED GULL 
hybrid was seen at Goat Island on the Niagara River. The bird was found 
yesterday by Derek Lovitch from Maine and another birder but tentatively 
identified as a Laughing Gull – Ring-billed Gull hybrid. Both of these hybrid 
forms have been recorded before. Derek told Chris Kundl about the bird and 
Chris was able to obtain photographs yesterday and today. It was Chris who 
initially and correctly, I believe, identified the bird as a Black-headed X 
Ring-billed.

Although most birders will not chase a hybrid, you are unlikely to see this 
form ever again, as it is extremely rare. Yesterday, the bird was in the 
parking lot on the upriver (east) end of the island. This is the end away from 
the falls. Today, it was in the shallows just off of Goat Island, on the rock 
shelf above Three Sisters islands – the usual place where the gulls roost. It 
was very close to shore today and although Chris was able to show me the bird 
today, I was not prepared to photograph it, as this was just an impromptu stop. 
The bird is in alternate plumage with a hood that is not solidly black. The 
bill is orangy-red with a black band. The legs are dull orange. The primaries 
and primary coverts show a weak representation of the typical white wedge on 
the upperwing that is seen on Bonaparte’s and Black-headed Gulls. However, 
there were also some black marks in the white. The undersides of the primaries 
are not dusky, as on a Black-headed Gull. The folded wingtips look similar to 
those of the Ring-billed Gulls – black with white apical spots on each primary. 
The structure of this bird seems closer to a Ring-billed Gull than a 
Black-headed Gull to me, though slightly smaller and smaller-billed. Note that 
this bird frequently buried itself among the many Ring-billed Gulls here and 
could be very hard to pick out, despite it’s obvious hood. It was the only 
hooded gull at Goat Island.

Photos of this bird can be seen in Chris’s eBird checklist, here: 
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S35078460

There are still lots of other less common gulls around Goat Island, especially 
Lesser Black-backed and Iceland Gulls, with a few Thayer’s Gulls as well.

Good birding!
Willie
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[nysbirds-l] Red-shouldered Hawk, Nassau

[d Futuyma]

At about noon, I had two sightings of an adult in Massapequa Preserve, perched 
and in flight along the west trail, first opposite Jerusalem Avenue, then a 
short distance to the south.
Doug Futuyma

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[nysbirds-l] Sandhill Cranes

[Michael Farina]

Marine Nature Study Area, Nassau, New York, US
Mar 11, 2017 10:15 AM
Protocol: Incidental
Comments:A 1st (2) Sandhill Cranes heading west towards
Oceanside Landfill but my have stopped in Oceanside Park, or any of the
school fields between here and there.
1 species
 
Sandhill Crane  2 A 1st (2) Sandhill Cranes heading west
towards Oceanside Landfill but my have stopped in Oceanside Park, or any
of the school fields between here and there.
 
View this checklist online at
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This report was generated automatically by eBird v3 (http://ebird.org)
 
 
Michael Farina, CWB®
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Dept. Conservation & Waterways
Town of Hempstead
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Black-headed - Ring-billed Gull hybrid at Goat Island

[Shaibal Mitra]

I meant to mention one more point: the undersides of the primaries and 
secondaries on this bird look very uniformly gray, such that the undersides of 
the secondaries look even less pale than in Ring-billed Gull, let alone 
Black-headed Gull (which shows strong contrast between different parts of the 
underwing).

From: bounce-121321967-11143...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-121321967-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Shaibal Mitra 
[shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu]
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:45 AM
To: Willie D'Anna; 'Geneseebirds'; geneseebird...@geneseo.edu; 'David Suggs'; 
'nysbirds-l'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Black-headed - Ring-billed Gull hybrid at Goat Island

Hi Willie and all,

Wow--what a neat-looking bird!

I can see the logic behind the identification: the combination of dark hood, 
white wing wedge, absence of white tips to the inner primaries and secondaries, 
and reddish bill and legs suggesting Black-headed Gull; and size, structure, 
extra dark in the outer primaries, and white apical spots on the outer 
primaries suggesting Ring-billed Gull.

But to me, this bird looks so unlike a Black-headed Gull that I remain puzzled. 
Specifically, it looks large, thick-necked, large-headed, broad-winged, and 
heavy-billed. Black-headed Gull is only half the mass of a Ring-billed Gull and 
very differently shaped, whereas this bird looks quite similar to Ring-billed 
Gull in overall size and structure. It is of course possible for hybrids to 
tilt toward one parent or the other in various ways, as opposed to showing 
intermediacy, but note that the Sullivan County bird from 2002 showed much more 
intermediacy in these very features (e.g., more obvious influence of 
Black-headed Gull in terms of size and shape). Looking more closely at the 
plumage, I also note that the hood seems to lack any of the brownish tones 
usually evident in Black-headed Gull, and that the mantle appears subtly darker 
than those of Ring-billed Gulls (Black-headed Gull is notably pale-mantled).

Although I'm not able to propose a better hypothesis at this point, I thought I 
would contribute these impressions.

Best,
Shai

From: bounce-121321009-11143...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-121321009-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Willie D'Anna 
[dannapot...@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:43 PM
To: 'Geneseebirds'; geneseebird...@geneseo.edu; 'David Suggs'; 'nysbirds-l'
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Black-headed - Ring-billed Gull hybrid at Goat Island

For the second straight day, a very rare BLACK-HEADED GULL – RING-BILLED GULL 
hybrid was seen at Goat Island on the Niagara River. The bird was found 
yesterday by Derek Lovitch from Maine and another birder but tentatively 
identified as a Laughing Gull – Ring-billed Gull hybrid. Both of these hybrid 
forms have been recorded before. Derek told Chris Kundl about the bird and 
Chris was able to obtain photographs yesterday and today. It was Chris who 
initially and correctly, I believe, identified the bird as a Black-headed X 
Ring-billed.

Although most birders will not chase a hybrid, you are unlikely to see this 
form ever again, as it is extremely rare. Yesterday, the bird was in the 
parking lot on the upriver (east) end of the island. This is the end away from 
the falls. Today, it was in the shallows just off of Goat Island, on the rock 
shelf above Three Sisters islands – the usual place where the gulls roost. It 
was very close to shore today and although Chris was able to show me the bird 
today, I was not prepared to photograph it, as this was just an impromptu stop. 
The bird is in alternate plumage with a hood that is not solidly black. The 
bill is orangy-red with a black band. The legs are dull orange. The primaries 
and primary coverts show a weak representation of the typical white wedge on 
the upperwing that is seen on Bonaparte’s and Black-headed Gulls. However, 
there were also some black marks in the white. The undersides of the primaries 
are not dusky, as on a Black-headed Gull. The folded wingtips look similar to 
those of the Ring-billed Gulls – black with white apical spots on each primary. 
The structure of this bird seems closer to a Ring-billed Gull than a 
Black-headed Gull to me, though slightly smaller and smaller-billed. Note that 
this bird frequently buried itself among the many Ring-billed Gulls here and 
could be very hard to pick out, despite it’s obvious hood. It was the only 
hooded gull at Goat Island.

Photos of this bird can be seen in Chris’s eBird checklist, here: 
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S35078460

There are still lots of other less common gulls around Goat Island, especially 
Lesser Black-backed and Iceland Gulls, with a few Thayer’s Gulls as well.

Good birding!
Willie
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Wilson, NY
dannapotterATroadrunner.com
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Black-headed - Ring-billed Gull hybrid at Goat Island

[Shaibal Mitra]

Hi Willie and all,

Wow--what a neat-looking bird!

I can see the logic behind the identification: the combination of dark hood, 
white wing wedge, absence of white tips to the inner primaries and secondaries, 
and reddish bill and legs suggesting Black-headed Gull; and size, structure, 
extra dark in the outer primaries, and white apical spots on the outer 
primaries suggesting Ring-billed Gull.

But to me, this bird looks so unlike a Black-headed Gull that I remain puzzled. 
Specifically, it looks large, thick-necked, large-headed, broad-winged, and 
heavy-billed. Black-headed Gull is only half the mass of a Ring-billed Gull and 
very differently shaped, whereas this bird looks quite similar to Ring-billed 
Gull in overall size and structure. It is of course possible for hybrids to 
tilt toward one parent or the other in various ways, as opposed to showing 
intermediacy, but note that the Sullivan County bird from 2002 showed much more 
intermediacy in these very features (e.g., more obvious influence of 
Black-headed Gull in terms of size and shape). Looking more closely at the 
plumage, I also note that the hood seems to lack any of the brownish tones 
usually evident in Black-headed Gull, and that the mantle appears subtly darker 
than those of Ring-billed Gulls (Black-headed Gull is notably pale-mantled).

Although I'm not able to propose a better hypothesis at this point, I thought I 
would contribute these impressions.

Best,
Shai

From: bounce-121321009-11143...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-121321009-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Willie D'Anna 
[dannapot...@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:43 PM
To: 'Geneseebirds'; geneseebird...@geneseo.edu; 'David Suggs'; 'nysbirds-l'
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Black-headed - Ring-billed Gull hybrid at Goat Island

For the second straight day, a very rare BLACK-HEADED GULL – RING-BILLED GULL 
hybrid was seen at Goat Island on the Niagara River. The bird was found 
yesterday by Derek Lovitch from Maine and another birder but tentatively 
identified as a Laughing Gull – Ring-billed Gull hybrid. Both of these hybrid 
forms have been recorded before. Derek told Chris Kundl about the bird and 
Chris was able to obtain photographs yesterday and today. It was Chris who 
initially and correctly, I believe, identified the bird as a Black-headed X 
Ring-billed.

Although most birders will not chase a hybrid, you are unlikely to see this 
form ever again, as it is extremely rare. Yesterday, the bird was in the 
parking lot on the upriver (east) end of the island. This is the end away from 
the falls. Today, it was in the shallows just off of Goat Island, on the rock 
shelf above Three Sisters islands – the usual place where the gulls roost. It 
was very close to shore today and although Chris was able to show me the bird 
today, I was not prepared to photograph it, as this was just an impromptu stop. 
The bird is in alternate plumage with a hood that is not solidly black. The 
bill is orangy-red with a black band. The legs are dull orange. The primaries 
and primary coverts show a weak representation of the typical white wedge on 
the upperwing that is seen on Bonaparte’s and Black-headed Gulls. However, 
there were also some black marks in the white. The undersides of the primaries 
are not dusky, as on a Black-headed Gull. The folded wingtips look similar to 
those of the Ring-billed Gulls – black with white apical spots on each primary. 
The structure of this bird seems closer to a Ring-billed Gull than a 
Black-headed Gull to me, though slightly smaller and smaller-billed. Note that 
this bird frequently buried itself among the many Ring-billed Gulls here and 
could be very hard to pick out, despite it’s obvious hood. It was the only 
hooded gull at Goat Island.

Photos of this bird can be seen in Chris’s eBird checklist, here: 
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S35078460

There are still lots of other less common gulls around Goat Island, especially 
Lesser Black-backed and Iceland Gulls, with a few Thayer’s Gulls as well.

Good birding!
Willie
--
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Wilson, NY
dannapotterATroadrunner.com
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Black-headed - Ring-billed Gull hybrid at Goat Island

[Shaibal Mitra]

I meant to mention one more point: the undersides of the primaries and 
secondaries on this bird look very uniformly gray, such that the undersides of 
the secondaries look even less pale than in Ring-billed Gull, let alone 
Black-headed Gull (which shows strong contrast between different parts of the 
underwing).

From: bounce-121321967-11143...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-121321967-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Shaibal Mitra 
[shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu]
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:45 AM
To: Willie D'Anna; 'Geneseebirds'; geneseebird...@geneseo.edu; 'David Suggs'; 
'nysbirds-l'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Black-headed - Ring-billed Gull hybrid at Goat Island

Hi Willie and all,

Wow--what a neat-looking bird!

I can see the logic behind the identification: the combination of dark hood, 
white wing wedge, absence of white tips to the inner primaries and secondaries, 
and reddish bill and legs suggesting Black-headed Gull; and size, structure, 
extra dark in the outer primaries, and white apical spots on the outer 
primaries suggesting Ring-billed Gull.

But to me, this bird looks so unlike a Black-headed Gull that I remain puzzled. 
Specifically, it looks large, thick-necked, large-headed, broad-winged, and 
heavy-billed. Black-headed Gull is only half the mass of a Ring-billed Gull and 
very differently shaped, whereas this bird looks quite similar to Ring-billed 
Gull in overall size and structure. It is of course possible for hybrids to 
tilt toward one parent or the other in various ways, as opposed to showing 
intermediacy, but note that the Sullivan County bird from 2002 showed much more 
intermediacy in these very features (e.g., more obvious influence of 
Black-headed Gull in terms of size and shape). Looking more closely at the 
plumage, I also note that the hood seems to lack any of the brownish tones 
usually evident in Black-headed Gull, and that the mantle appears subtly darker 
than those of Ring-billed Gulls (Black-headed Gull is notably pale-mantled).

Although I'm not able to propose a better hypothesis at this point, I thought I 
would contribute these impressions.

Best,
Shai

From: bounce-121321009-11143...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-121321009-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Willie D'Anna 
[dannapot...@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:43 PM
To: 'Geneseebirds'; geneseebird...@geneseo.edu; 'David Suggs'; 'nysbirds-l'
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Black-headed - Ring-billed Gull hybrid at Goat Island

For the second straight day, a very rare BLACK-HEADED GULL – RING-BILLED GULL 
hybrid was seen at Goat Island on the Niagara River. The bird was found 
yesterday by Derek Lovitch from Maine and another birder but tentatively 
identified as a Laughing Gull – Ring-billed Gull hybrid. Both of these hybrid 
forms have been recorded before. Derek told Chris Kundl about the bird and 
Chris was able to obtain photographs yesterday and today. It was Chris who 
initially and correctly, I believe, identified the bird as a Black-headed X 
Ring-billed.

Although most birders will not chase a hybrid, you are unlikely to see this 
form ever again, as it is extremely rare. Yesterday, the bird was in the 
parking lot on the upriver (east) end of the island. This is the end away from 
the falls. Today, it was in the shallows just off of Goat Island, on the rock 
shelf above Three Sisters islands – the usual place where the gulls roost. It 
was very close to shore today and although Chris was able to show me the bird 
today, I was not prepared to photograph it, as this was just an impromptu stop. 
The bird is in alternate plumage with a hood that is not solidly black. The 
bill is orangy-red with a black band. The legs are dull orange. The primaries 
and primary coverts show a weak representation of the typical white wedge on 
the upperwing that is seen on Bonaparte’s and Black-headed Gulls. However, 
there were also some black marks in the white. The undersides of the primaries 
are not dusky, as on a Black-headed Gull. The folded wingtips look similar to 
those of the Ring-billed Gulls – black with white apical spots on each primary. 
The structure of this bird seems closer to a Ring-billed Gull than a 
Black-headed Gull to me, though slightly smaller and smaller-billed. Note that 
this bird frequently buried itself among the many Ring-billed Gulls here and 
could be very hard to pick out, despite it’s obvious hood. It was the only 
hooded gull at Goat Island.

Photos of this bird can be seen in Chris’s eBird checklist, here: 
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S35078460

There are still lots of other less common gulls around Goat Island, especially 
Lesser Black-backed and Iceland Gulls, with a few Thayer’s Gulls as well.

Good birding!
Willie
--
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Wilson, NY
dannapotterATroadrunner.com
My photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/107683885@N07/

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[nysbirds-l] Sandhill Cranes

[Michael Farina]

Marine Nature Study Area, Nassau, New York, US
Mar 11, 2017 10:15 AM
Protocol: Incidental
Comments:A 1st (2) Sandhill Cranes heading west towards
Oceanside Landfill but my have stopped in Oceanside Park, or any of the
school fields between here and there.
1 species
 
Sandhill Crane  2 A 1st (2) Sandhill Cranes heading west
towards Oceanside Landfill but my have stopped in Oceanside Park, or any
of the school fields between here and there.
 
View this checklist online at
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S35103405 
 
This report was generated automatically by eBird v3 (http://ebird.org)
 
 
Michael Farina, CWB®
Conservation Biologist
Marine Nature Study Area
Dept. Conservation & Waterways
Town of Hempstead
http://mnsa.info
https://www.facebook.com/MNSA1970
email: mich...@tohmail.org

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Sandhill Cranes

[jsparacin]

Sandhill cranes migrating. I wonder where they are going?  They are over NY and 
maybe NJ. 
I hope they like snow. We are expecting a nor’easter here and of course Boston. 
Has Wosey got her vittles in? 
I have to get some gas for my snow blower. 

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From: Michael Farina
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 11:11 AM
To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sandhill Cranes

Marine Nature Study Area, Nassau, New York, US
Mar 11, 2017 10:15 AM
Protocol: Incidental
Comments: A 1st (2) Sandhill Cranes heading west towards Oceanside 
Landfill but my have stopped in Oceanside Park, or any of the school fields 
between here and there.
1 species
 
Sandhill Crane  2 A 1st (2) Sandhill Cranes heading west towards 
Oceanside Landfill but my have stopped in Oceanside Park, or any of the school 
fields between here and there.
 
View this checklist online at http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S35103405 
 
This report was generated automatically by eBird v3 (http://ebird.org)
 
 
Michael Farina, CWB®
Conservation Biologist
Marine Nature Study Area
Dept. Conservation & Waterways
Town of Hempstead
http://mnsa.info
https://www.facebook.com/MNSA1970
email: mich...@tohmail.org
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[nysbirds-l] Red-shouldered Hawk, Nassau

[d Futuyma]

At about noon, I had two sightings of an adult in Massapequa Preserve, perched 
and in flight along the west trail, first opposite Jerusalem Avenue, then a 
short distance to the south.
Doug Futuyma

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[nysbirds-l] Tufted duck crown point ny

[Arie Gilbert]

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viewed from this location at 1.54pm on 03-11-2017
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=44.03099245,-73.42627757

Arie Gilbert 
No. Babylon NY 
www.powerbirder.blogspot 
www.qcbirdclub.org
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Sent from "Loretta IV" in the field. 
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