Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Cesar Castillo
Dear All, Thanks for the interest.  The two gentlemen (Simon and Tripper) who were birding at the same time as me, and who were the first people I showed the animal too also thought Kinkajou.  I also would agree that it is a Kinkajou from the descriptive pictures online.  The prehensile tail

[nysbirds-l] Jones Beach

2015-08-14 Thread syschiff
Jones Beach West End 14 Aug Joe Giunta, Joe Viglietta and I (Sy Schiff) birded the flats (no water at all) between the Nature Center and West End #2 lot. There were about 500 shorebirds on the three adjacent fields with little diversity; 300 SEMIPALMATED PLOVER, 100 LEAST SANDPIPER, 100

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Joseph O'Sullivan
Have the reviewers at ebird accepted it yet? On Friday, August 14, 2015, Mike wrote: > Now we know what was clogging the valve > > Mike > Ridge NY > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Rob Jett > wrote: > > > Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild,

[nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Godwit

2015-08-14 Thread Rob Jett
Shane Blodgett asked me to post that there is a Marbled Godwit at Plumb Beach right now. Good birding, Rob Sent via rotary phone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Mike
Now we know what was clogging the valve Mike Ridge NY Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Rob Jett wrote: > Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals. > Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it > in another

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
Just got off the phone with FWS law enforcement.  Since kinkajous are not a protected species, and are commonly bred in the US it was most likely not smuggled in.  She agrees that it most likely became too much for someone and they just dumped it.  Which brings me back to my assessment about

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Carol Holmes
Would the Wildlife Conservation Society (Bronx Zoo) be of any help? Or might that result in more trouble than it's worth? Carol Holmes -Original Message- From: Rob Jett To: NYSBirds Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 2:49 pm Subject: RE:[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @

[nysbirds-l] Central Park migration (thru 8/14), N.Y.C.

2015-08-14 Thread Thomas Fiore
Central Park, Manhattan, N.Y. City - migration the past week, to today, Friday, 14 August, 2015 Migration has been ongoing with the pace picking up a bit this week, & in the last 3 days in particular. Among various southbound birds, warblers have featured most strongly, with at least 20

RE:[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Rob Jett
Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals. Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it in another state and drove back to NYC with it. After all, NYC is a perfectly logical place for a rainforest mammal to live. Amirite? Perhaps

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
I had forgotten how close JFK is to the refuge. With all the illegal and otherwise exotics around, I automatically assumed he was dumped, but that is a very valid theory.  I will mention that to the rangers and let them know the importance of looking more closely into the little guy's history.  

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread John Laver
It may have stowed away on an airplane and arrived via JFK. Or, more likely, it might have been smuggled in through JFK and somehow escaped. If/when captured, forensics might be able to determine its recent history via anything living on or in it. John Laver Manhattan, NY On Fri, Aug 14, 2015

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Richard Guthrie
Global warming. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mike wrote: > So you're just going to rule out the possibility of a wild vagrant? > Mammals have legs, you know... > > > > > Sorry- couldn't resist. > > Mike Cooper > Ridge, LI, NY > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Stella

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
There is a guy in Brooklyn that runs a rescue which specializes in exotics.  I gave his phone number to the rangers and they also have been versed in how to do this themselves if need be.  Reached out to some contacts to find out about placing it also.  Hopefully with all this advice and

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Mike
So you're just going to rule out the possibility of a wild vagrant? Mammals have legs, you know... Sorry- couldn't resist. Mike Cooper Ridge, LI, NY Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Stella Miller wrote: > Animal Care and Control would handle an escaped or dumped exotic

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
Animal Care and Control would handle an escaped or dumped exotic animal.   Unfortunately their new phone system doesn't seem to be working. The rangers at the refuge are aware of the situation and are on it.   Stella Miller  "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as

RE: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
Wild. Not what I expected either, but a straight-forward ID. The prehensile tail rules out olingos. Bananas in a hav-a-heart or some other live trap works; I've helped catch them in Panama. Interesting creatures. I knew someone who had one. They eat mostly fruit and nectar, but they're still

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Paul R Sweet
Baited Tommahawk traps would be appropriate, set in the trees. http://www.livetrap.com/index.php?dispatch=tags.view=Raccoons aI suspect Gateway have some of these for trapping Racoons, Cats etc at the Plover sites. From: Thomas Rhindress mailto:trhindre...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: Thomas Rhindress

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Meredith, Leslie
An exotic animal veterinarian suggested that a breeder could be contacted as kinkajous are legal pets in some states (TX) and a breeder might have the skill and interest in rescue. Did not suggest a breeder we could contact however. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:51 PM, "Thomas

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Thomas Rhindress
Agree, It is a kinkajou - *Potos flavus *- native to Central America and northern South America. Member of the raccoon family Procyonidae*. *Also illegal to keep in NYC according to the ASPCA website*.* Who would one contact to attempt a capture? Tom Rhindress - Yorktown Heights, NY --

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Gabriel Willow
Yes, Paul is correct, it appears to be either a Kinkajou or Olingo (both are neotropical cousins of raccoons and ringtails) - notice the prehensile tail, which only opossums have around our parts. Who would have one for a pet, and if they did, why would they toss it at a temperate wildlife

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Mike
Kinkajou was my first though too! Not what I expected when I clicked that link! Mike Cooper Ridge, LI NY Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Paul R Sweet wrote: > Looks like a Kinkajou. Bizarre! > > Paul > > From: Cesar Castillo > Reply-To: Cesar Castillo > Date: Friday,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Paul R Sweet
Looks like a Kinkajou. Bizarre! Paul From: Cesar Castillo mailto:czar3...@yahoo.com>> Reply-To: Cesar Castillo mailto:czar3...@yahoo.com>> Date: Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM To: NYSBIRDS-L mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Nadine Scarpa
Could it be a mink? From what I understand, they sometimes use trees to escape from predators. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Cesar Castillo wrote: > Hi all, > > Yesterday I found this mammal resting at the top of trees to the left of > the blind at Big John's Pond. It seems to be a an

[nysbirds-l] Jamaica Bay Mammal, take 2

2015-08-14 Thread Cesar Castillo
Hi all, see below for link, not sure what yahoo does with these links. FYI, I did notify the staff and took them to see the mammal.    https://www.flickr.com/photos/103732330@N03/19949062204/in/dateposted-public/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info:

Re: [nysbirds-l] JAMAICA BAY Update East Pond

2015-08-14 Thread Andrew Baksh
Folks should also know that the bird flew off shortly after and has not returned to my knowledge. 風 Swift as the wind 林 Quiet as the forest 火 Conquer like the fire 山 Steady as the mountain Sun Tzu The Art of War > (\__/) > (= '.'=) > (") _ (")

[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Cesar Castillo
Hi all, Yesterday I found this mammal resting at the top of trees to the left of the blind at Big John's Pond.  It seems to be a an escaped or released illegal pet.  Does anyone have any idea what it could be?  Check out the Flicker link. Escaped/Released Animal |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |  

[nysbirds-l] JAMAICA BAY Update East Pond

2015-08-14 Thread Gail Benson
A Wilson's Phalarope is in northwest corner of east pond now, next to a Stilt Sandpiper. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)

[nysbirds-l] Update on Jamaica Bay east pond

2015-08-14 Thread Gail Benson
The Marbled Godwit flew out directly east at 9 am. The Avocet is still here. Stilt, White-rumped, Pectoral and other usual Sandpipers are here, (five Pectoral Sandpipers came in as a group and just flew out) ,and 2 Gull-billed Terns (adult and immature hawking insects on the algae mat). --

[nysbirds-l] Jamaica Bay East pond

2015-08-14 Thread Gail Benson
A Marbled Godwit has joined the Am Avocet this am on the east pond at the north end -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)

[nysbirds-l] Jones Beach Coast Guard area

2015-08-14 Thread Robert Taylor
Hi Everyone, Was by the Coast Guard area/ Short Beach a little this morning after sunrise- nothing rare but there was a noticeable increase in Black Bellied Plovers. There were mostly Oystercatchers, along with Semi Palmated Sandpipers and Plovers, Sanderlings, Ruddy Turnstones, Spotted

[nysbirds-l] Jones Beach Coast Guard area

2015-08-14 Thread Robert Taylor
Hi Everyone, Was by the Coast Guard area/ Short Beach a little this morning after sunrise- nothing rare but there was a noticeable increase in Black Bellied Plovers. There were mostly Oystercatchers, along with Semi Palmated Sandpipers and Plovers, Sanderlings, Ruddy Turnstones, Spotted

[nysbirds-l] Update on Jamaica Bay east pond

2015-08-14 Thread Gail Benson
The Marbled Godwit flew out directly east at 9 am. The Avocet is still here. Stilt, White-rumped, Pectoral and other usual Sandpipers are here, (five Pectoral Sandpipers came in as a group and just flew out) ,and 2 Gull-billed Terns (adult and immature hawking insects on the algae mat). --

RE:[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Rob Jett
Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals. Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it in another state and drove back to NYC with it. After all, NYC is a perfectly logical place for a rainforest mammal to live. Amirite? Perhaps

[nysbirds-l] Central Park migration (thru 8/14), N.Y.C.

2015-08-14 Thread Thomas Fiore
Central Park, Manhattan, N.Y. City - migration the past week, to today, Friday, 14 August, 2015 Migration has been ongoing with the pace picking up a bit this week, in the last 3 days in particular. Among various southbound birds, warblers have featured most strongly, with at least 20

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Carol Holmes
Would the Wildlife Conservation Society (Bronx Zoo) be of any help? Or might that result in more trouble than it's worth? Carol Holmes -Original Message- From: Rob Jett citybir...@earthlink.net To: NYSBirds NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 2:49 pm Subject:

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
I had forgotten how close JFK is to the refuge. With all the illegal and otherwise exotics around, I automatically assumed he was dumped, but that is a very valid theory.  I will mention that to the rangers and let them know the importance of looking more closely into the little guy's history.  

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
Just got off the phone with FWS law enforcement.  Since kinkajous are not a protected species, and are commonly bred in the US it was most likely not smuggled in.  She agrees that it most likely became too much for someone and they just dumped it.  Which brings me back to my assessment about

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Mike
Kinkajou was my first though too! Not what I expected when I clicked that link! Mike Cooper Ridge, LI NY Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Paul R Sweet sw...@amnh.org wrote: Looks like a Kinkajou. Bizarre! Paul From: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com Reply-To: Cesar

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
There is a guy in Brooklyn that runs a rescue which specializes in exotics.  I gave his phone number to the rangers and they also have been versed in how to do this themselves if need be.  Reached out to some contacts to find out about placing it also.  Hopefully with all this advice and

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Richard Guthrie
Global warming. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mike mike...@optonline.net wrote: So you're just going to rule out the possibility of a wild vagrant? Mammals have legs, you know... Sorry- couldn't resist. Mike Cooper Ridge, LI, NY Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:46 PM,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Paul R Sweet
Baited Tommahawk traps would be appropriate, set in the trees. http://www.livetrap.com/index.php?dispatch=tags.viewtag=Raccoons aI suspect Gateway have some of these for trapping Racoons, Cats etc at the Plover sites. From: Thomas Rhindress trhindre...@gmail.commailto:trhindre...@gmail.com

[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Cesar Castillo
Hi all, Yesterday I found this mammal resting at the top of trees to the left of the blind at Big John's Pond.  It seems to be a an escaped or released illegal pet.  Does anyone have any idea what it could be?  Check out the Flicker link. Escaped/Released Animal |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |  

[nysbirds-l] Jamaica Bay Mammal, take 2

2015-08-14 Thread Cesar Castillo
Hi all, see below for link, not sure what yahoo does with these links. FYI, I did notify the staff and took them to see the mammal.    https://www.flickr.com/photos/103732330@N03/19949062204/in/dateposted-public/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info:

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread John Laver
It may have stowed away on an airplane and arrived via JFK. Or, more likely, it might have been smuggled in through JFK and somehow escaped. If/when captured, forensics might be able to determine its recent history via anything living on or in it. John Laver Manhattan, NY On Fri, Aug 14, 2015

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Nadine Scarpa
Could it be a mink? From what I understand, they sometimes use trees to escape from predators. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, Yesterday I found this mammal resting at the top of trees to the left of the blind at Big John's Pond. It seems

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Paul R Sweet
Looks like a Kinkajou. Bizarre! Paul From: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.commailto:czar3...@yahoo.com Reply-To: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.commailto:czar3...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM To: NYSBIRDS-L nysbird...@list.cornell.edumailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Thomas Rhindress
Agree, It is a kinkajou - *Potos flavus *- native to Central America and northern South America. Member of the raccoon family Procyonidae*. *Also illegal to keep in NYC according to the ASPCA website*.* Who would one contact to attempt a capture? Tom Rhindress - Yorktown Heights, NY --

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Meredith, Leslie
An exotic animal veterinarian suggested that a breeder could be contacted as kinkajous are legal pets in some states (TX) and a breeder might have the skill and interest in rescue. Did not suggest a breeder we could contact however. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Thomas

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Mike
So you're just going to rule out the possibility of a wild vagrant? Mammals have legs, you know... Sorry- couldn't resist. Mike Cooper Ridge, LI, NY Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com wrote: Animal Care and Control would handle an

Re: [nysbirds-l] JAMAICA BAY Update East Pond

2015-08-14 Thread Andrew Baksh
Folks should also know that the bird flew off shortly after and has not returned to my knowledge. 風 Swift as the wind 林 Quiet as the forest 火 Conquer like the fire 山 Steady as the mountain Sun Tzu The Art of War (\__/) (= '.'=) () _ ()

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Gabriel Willow
Yes, Paul is correct, it appears to be either a Kinkajou or Olingo (both are neotropical cousins of raccoons and ringtails) - notice the prehensile tail, which only opossums have around our parts. Who would have one for a pet, and if they did, why would they toss it at a temperate wildlife

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Stella Miller
Animal Care and Control would handle an escaped or dumped exotic animal.   Unfortunately their new phone system doesn't seem to be working. The rangers at the refuge are aware of the situation and are on it.   Stella Miller  Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as

[nysbirds-l] Jones Beach

2015-08-14 Thread syschiff
Jones Beach West End 14 Aug Joe Giunta, Joe Viglietta and I (Sy Schiff) birded the flats (no water at all) between the Nature Center and West End #2 lot. There were about 500 shorebirds on the three adjacent fields with little diversity; 300 SEMIPALMATED PLOVER, 100 LEAST SANDPIPER, 100

[nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Godwit

2015-08-14 Thread Rob Jett
Shane Blodgett asked me to post that there is a Marbled Godwit at Plumb Beach right now. Good birding, Rob Sent via rotary phone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Mike
Now we know what was clogging the valve Mike Ridge NY Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Rob Jett citybir...@earthlink.net wrote: Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals. Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone

Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail

2015-08-14 Thread Cesar Castillo
Dear All, Thanks for the interest.  The two gentlemen (Simon and Tripper) who were birding at the same time as me, and who were the first people I showed the animal too also thought Kinkajou.  I also would agree that it is a Kinkajou from the descriptive pictures online.  The prehensile tail

[nysbirds-l] JAMAICA BAY Update East Pond

2015-08-14 Thread Gail Benson
A Wilson's Phalarope is in northwest corner of east pond now, next to a Stilt Sandpiper. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)

[nysbirds-l] Jamaica Bay East pond

2015-08-14 Thread Gail Benson
A Marbled Godwit has joined the Am Avocet this am on the east pond at the north end -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)