Dear All,
Thanks for the interest. The two gentlemen (Simon and Tripper) who were
birding at the same time as me, and who were the first people I showed the
animal too also thought Kinkajou. I also would agree that it is a Kinkajou
from the descriptive pictures online. The prehensile tail
Jones Beach West End 14 Aug
Joe Giunta, Joe Viglietta and I (Sy Schiff) birded the flats (no water at all)
between the Nature Center and West End #2 lot. There were about 500 shorebirds
on the three adjacent fields with little diversity; 300 SEMIPALMATED PLOVER,
100 LEAST SANDPIPER, 100
Have the reviewers at ebird accepted it yet?
On Friday, August 14, 2015, Mike wrote:
> Now we know what was clogging the valve
>
> Mike
> Ridge NY
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Rob Jett > wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild,
Shane Blodgett asked me to post that there is a Marbled Godwit at Plumb Beach
right now.
Good birding,
Rob
Sent via rotary phone
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Ridge NY
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Rob Jett wrote:
> Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals.
> Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it
> in another
Just got off the phone with FWS law enforcement. Since kinkajous are not a
protected species, and are commonly bred in the US it was most likely not
smuggled in. She agrees that it most likely became too much for someone and
they just dumped it. Which brings me back to my assessment about
Would the Wildlife Conservation Society (Bronx Zoo) be of any help? Or might
that result in more trouble than it's worth?
Carol Holmes
-Original Message-
From: Rob Jett
To: NYSBirds
Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 2:49 pm
Subject: RE:[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @
Central Park, Manhattan, N.Y. City - migration the past week, to today,
Friday, 14 August, 2015
Migration has been ongoing with the pace picking up a bit this week, &
in the last 3 days in particular. Among various southbound birds,
warblers have featured most strongly, with at least 20
Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals.
Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it in
another state and drove back to NYC with it. After all, NYC is a perfectly
logical place for a rainforest mammal to live. Amirite? Perhaps
I had forgotten how close JFK is to the refuge. With all the illegal and
otherwise exotics around, I automatically assumed he was dumped, but that is a
very valid theory. I will mention that to the rangers and let them know the
importance of looking more closely into the little guy's history.
It may have stowed away on an airplane and arrived via JFK. Or, more
likely, it might have been smuggled in through JFK and somehow escaped.
If/when captured, forensics might be able to determine its recent history
via anything living on or in it.
John Laver
Manhattan, NY
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015
Global warming.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mike wrote:
> So you're just going to rule out the possibility of a wild vagrant?
> Mammals have legs, you know...
>
>
>
>
> Sorry- couldn't resist.
>
> Mike Cooper
> Ridge, LI, NY
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Stella
There is a guy in Brooklyn that runs a rescue which specializes in exotics. I
gave his phone number to the rangers and they also have been versed in how to
do this themselves if need be. Reached out to some contacts to find out about
placing it also. Hopefully with all this advice and
So you're just going to rule out the possibility of a wild vagrant? Mammals
have legs, you know...
Sorry- couldn't resist.
Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI, NY
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Stella Miller wrote:
> Animal Care and Control would handle an escaped or dumped exotic
Animal Care and Control would handle an escaped or dumped exotic animal.
Unfortunately their new phone system doesn't seem to be working.
The rangers at the refuge are aware of the situation and are on it.
Stella Miller
"Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as
Wild. Not what I expected either, but a straight-forward ID. The prehensile
tail rules out olingos. Bananas in a hav-a-heart or some other live trap works;
I've helped catch them in Panama. Interesting creatures. I knew someone who had
one. They eat mostly fruit and nectar, but they're still
Baited Tommahawk traps would be appropriate, set in the trees.
http://www.livetrap.com/index.php?dispatch=tags.view=Raccoons aI suspect
Gateway have some of these for trapping Racoons, Cats etc at the Plover sites.
From: Thomas Rhindress mailto:trhindre...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: Thomas Rhindress
An exotic animal veterinarian suggested that a breeder could be contacted as
kinkajous are legal pets in some states (TX) and a breeder might have the skill
and interest in rescue. Did not suggest a breeder we could contact however.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:51 PM, "Thomas
Agree, It is a kinkajou - *Potos flavus *- native to Central America and
northern South America. Member of the raccoon family Procyonidae*. *Also
illegal to keep in NYC according to the ASPCA website*.* Who would one
contact to attempt a capture?
Tom Rhindress - Yorktown Heights, NY
--
Yes, Paul is correct, it appears to be either a Kinkajou or Olingo (both are
neotropical cousins of raccoons and ringtails) - notice the prehensile tail,
which only opossums have around our parts. Who would have one for a pet, and
if they did, why would they toss it at a temperate wildlife
Kinkajou was my first though too! Not what I expected when I clicked that link!
Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI NY
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Paul R Sweet wrote:
> Looks like a Kinkajou. Bizarre!
>
> Paul
>
> From: Cesar Castillo
> Reply-To: Cesar Castillo
> Date: Friday,
Looks like a Kinkajou. Bizarre!
Paul
From: Cesar Castillo mailto:czar3...@yahoo.com>>
Reply-To: Cesar Castillo mailto:czar3...@yahoo.com>>
Date: Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM
To: NYSBIRDS-L mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>>
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @
Could it be a mink? From what I understand, they sometimes use trees to
escape from predators.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Cesar Castillo wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Yesterday I found this mammal resting at the top of trees to the left of
> the blind at Big John's Pond. It seems to be a an
Hi all, see below for link, not sure what yahoo does with these links. FYI, I
did notify the staff and took them to see the mammal.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/103732330@N03/19949062204/in/dateposted-public/
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Folks should also know that the bird flew off shortly after and has not
returned to my knowledge.
風 Swift as the wind
林 Quiet as the forest
火 Conquer like the fire
山 Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu The Art of War
> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (")
Hi all,
Yesterday I found this mammal resting at the top of trees to the left of the
blind at Big John's Pond. It seems to be a an escaped or released illegal pet.
Does anyone have any idea what it could be? Check out the Flicker link.
Escaped/Released Animal
| |
| | | | | | |
A Wilson's Phalarope is in northwest corner of east pond now, next to a
Stilt Sandpiper.
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The Marbled Godwit flew out directly east at 9 am. The Avocet is still
here. Stilt, White-rumped, Pectoral and other usual Sandpipers are here,
(five Pectoral Sandpipers came in as a group and just flew out) ,and 2
Gull-billed Terns (adult and immature hawking insects on the algae mat).
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A Marbled Godwit has joined the Am Avocet this am on the east pond at the
north end
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Hi Everyone,
Was by the Coast Guard area/ Short Beach a little this morning after
sunrise- nothing rare but there was a noticeable increase in Black Bellied
Plovers. There were mostly Oystercatchers, along with Semi Palmated
Sandpipers and Plovers, Sanderlings, Ruddy Turnstones, Spotted
Hi Everyone,
Was by the Coast Guard area/ Short Beach a little this morning after
sunrise- nothing rare but there was a noticeable increase in Black Bellied
Plovers. There were mostly Oystercatchers, along with Semi Palmated
Sandpipers and Plovers, Sanderlings, Ruddy Turnstones, Spotted
The Marbled Godwit flew out directly east at 9 am. The Avocet is still
here. Stilt, White-rumped, Pectoral and other usual Sandpipers are here,
(five Pectoral Sandpipers came in as a group and just flew out) ,and 2
Gull-billed Terns (adult and immature hawking insects on the algae mat).
--
Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals.
Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it in
another state and drove back to NYC with it. After all, NYC is a perfectly
logical place for a rainforest mammal to live. Amirite? Perhaps
Central Park, Manhattan, N.Y. City - migration the past week, to today,
Friday, 14 August, 2015
Migration has been ongoing with the pace picking up a bit this week,
in the last 3 days in particular. Among various southbound birds,
warblers have featured most strongly, with at least 20
Would the Wildlife Conservation Society (Bronx Zoo) be of any help? Or might
that result in more trouble than it's worth?
Carol Holmes
-Original Message-
From: Rob Jett citybir...@earthlink.net
To: NYSBirds NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu
Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 2:49 pm
Subject:
I had forgotten how close JFK is to the refuge. With all the illegal and
otherwise exotics around, I automatically assumed he was dumped, but that is a
very valid theory. I will mention that to the rangers and let them know the
importance of looking more closely into the little guy's history.
Just got off the phone with FWS law enforcement. Since kinkajous are not a
protected species, and are commonly bred in the US it was most likely not
smuggled in. She agrees that it most likely became too much for someone and
they just dumped it. Which brings me back to my assessment about
Kinkajou was my first though too! Not what I expected when I clicked that link!
Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI NY
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Paul R Sweet sw...@amnh.org wrote:
Looks like a Kinkajou. Bizarre!
Paul
From: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: Cesar
There is a guy in Brooklyn that runs a rescue which specializes in exotics. I
gave his phone number to the rangers and they also have been versed in how to
do this themselves if need be. Reached out to some contacts to find out about
placing it also. Hopefully with all this advice and
Global warming.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mike mike...@optonline.net wrote:
So you're just going to rule out the possibility of a wild vagrant?
Mammals have legs, you know...
Sorry- couldn't resist.
Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI, NY
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:46 PM,
Baited Tommahawk traps would be appropriate, set in the trees.
http://www.livetrap.com/index.php?dispatch=tags.viewtag=Raccoons aI suspect
Gateway have some of these for trapping Racoons, Cats etc at the Plover sites.
From: Thomas Rhindress trhindre...@gmail.commailto:trhindre...@gmail.com
Hi all,
Yesterday I found this mammal resting at the top of trees to the left of the
blind at Big John's Pond. It seems to be a an escaped or released illegal pet.
Does anyone have any idea what it could be? Check out the Flicker link.
Escaped/Released Animal
| |
| | | | | | |
Hi all, see below for link, not sure what yahoo does with these links. FYI, I
did notify the staff and took them to see the mammal.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/103732330@N03/19949062204/in/dateposted-public/
--
NYSbirds-L List Info:
It may have stowed away on an airplane and arrived via JFK. Or, more
likely, it might have been smuggled in through JFK and somehow escaped.
If/when captured, forensics might be able to determine its recent history
via anything living on or in it.
John Laver
Manhattan, NY
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015
Could it be a mink? From what I understand, they sometimes use trees to
escape from predators.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi all,
Yesterday I found this mammal resting at the top of trees to the left of
the blind at Big John's Pond. It seems
Looks like a Kinkajou. Bizarre!
Paul
From: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.commailto:czar3...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.commailto:czar3...@yahoo.com
Date: Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM
To: NYSBIRDS-L nysbird...@list.cornell.edumailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu
Agree, It is a kinkajou - *Potos flavus *- native to Central America and
northern South America. Member of the raccoon family Procyonidae*. *Also
illegal to keep in NYC according to the ASPCA website*.* Who would one
contact to attempt a capture?
Tom Rhindress - Yorktown Heights, NY
--
An exotic animal veterinarian suggested that a breeder could be contacted as
kinkajous are legal pets in some states (TX) and a breeder might have the skill
and interest in rescue. Did not suggest a breeder we could contact however.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Thomas
So you're just going to rule out the possibility of a wild vagrant? Mammals
have legs, you know...
Sorry- couldn't resist.
Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI, NY
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com wrote:
Animal Care and Control would handle an
Folks should also know that the bird flew off shortly after and has not
returned to my knowledge.
風 Swift as the wind
林 Quiet as the forest
火 Conquer like the fire
山 Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu The Art of War
(\__/)
(= '.'=)
() _ ()
Yes, Paul is correct, it appears to be either a Kinkajou or Olingo (both are
neotropical cousins of raccoons and ringtails) - notice the prehensile tail,
which only opossums have around our parts. Who would have one for a pet, and
if they did, why would they toss it at a temperate wildlife
Animal Care and Control would handle an escaped or dumped exotic animal.
Unfortunately their new phone system doesn't seem to be working.
The rangers at the refuge are aware of the situation and are on it.
Stella Miller
Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as
Jones Beach West End 14 Aug
Joe Giunta, Joe Viglietta and I (Sy Schiff) birded the flats (no water at all)
between the Nature Center and West End #2 lot. There were about 500 shorebirds
on the three adjacent fields with little diversity; 300 SEMIPALMATED PLOVER,
100 LEAST SANDPIPER, 100
Shane Blodgett asked me to post that there is a Marbled Godwit at Plumb Beach
right now.
Good birding,
Rob
Sent via rotary phone
--
NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES
Now we know what was clogging the valve
Mike
Ridge NY
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Rob Jett citybir...@earthlink.net wrote:
Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals.
Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone
Dear All,
Thanks for the interest. The two gentlemen (Simon and Tripper) who were
birding at the same time as me, and who were the first people I showed the
animal too also thought Kinkajou. I also would agree that it is a Kinkajou
from the descriptive pictures online. The prehensile tail
A Wilson's Phalarope is in northwest corner of east pond now, next to a
Stilt Sandpiper.
--
NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
ARCHIVES:
1)
A Marbled Godwit has joined the Am Avocet this am on the east pond at the
north end
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