[nysbirds-l] Private/Public Roads re: Ferruginous Hawk

2021-01-19 Thread sophiesaid
Please excuse this if it  is a dupilcate message, as I do not think the original message sent. I just spoke to the Orange County Highway Dept.I asked how would “sightseers” know what roads are public and what roads are private.He said: blue street signs are private, green street signs are

[nysbirds-l] Private/Public Roads re: Ferruginous Hawk

2021-01-19 Thread sophiesaid
Please excuse this if it  is a dupilcate message, as I do not think the original message sent. I just spoke to the Orange County Highway Dept.I asked how would “sightseers” know what roads are public and what roads are private.He said: blue street signs are private, green street signs are

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread ArieGilbert
It is good to know no one behaved badly. Very good. But it has happened in this region in the past. Egregiously. You were asked to leave because of *what -others- did in the past.*  I am not privy to the private or not status of this particular road,  but I know of similar conflicts elsewhere

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread ArieGilbert
It is good to know no one behaved badly. Very good. But it has happened in this region in the past. Egregiously. You were asked to leave because of *what -others- did in the past.*  I am not privy to the private or not status of this particular road,  but I know of similar conflicts elsewhere

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread sophiesaid
I just spoke to the Orange County Highway Dept.I asked how would “sightseers” know what roads are public and what roads are private.He said: blue street signs are private, green street signs are public. i then asked him if “sightseers” could drive on private roads to see the scenery. His answer

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread sophiesaid
I just spoke to the Orange County Highway Dept.I asked how would “sightseers” know what roads are public and what roads are private.He said: blue street signs are private, green street signs are public. i then asked him if “sightseers” could drive on private roads to see the scenery. His answer

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Gerald Smith
>From a strictly legal standpoint someone might contact the town highway >superintendent and/or town clerk. Even if one is behaving appropriately and is >within legal rights politeness is still required. Since some local folks and >some birders can both be unreasonable at times it’s always

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Gerald Smith
>From a strictly legal standpoint someone might contact the town highway >superintendent and/or town clerk. Even if one is behaving appropriately and is >within legal rights politeness is still required. Since some local folks and >some birders can both be unreasonable at times it’s always

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread lindsey duval
A similar thing occurred yesterday with Celery, which I am pretty sure that long, birdy road is public. While I was on it I saw nobody behind disrespectful such as blocking the road or stopping in front of the few houses, yet I drove by a homeowner down the road away from his property screaming at

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread lindsey duval
A similar thing occurred yesterday with Celery, which I am pretty sure that long, birdy road is public. While I was on it I saw nobody behind disrespectful such as blocking the road or stopping in front of the few houses, yet I drove by a homeowner down the road away from his property screaming at

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Dawn Hannay
According to GPS maps, the road everyone was on is Cedar Swamp Road. Nobody was running into farm fields, blocking farm vehicles or the like. Everyone was respectful and polite. The landowner in question indicated that the entire road is private and asked everyone to leave, which we did. I

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Dawn Hannay
According to GPS maps, the road everyone was on is Cedar Swamp Road. Nobody was running into farm fields, blocking farm vehicles or the like. Everyone was respectful and polite. The landowner in question indicated that the entire road is private and asked everyone to leave, which we did. I

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread ArieGilbert
A problem not unique to this area is birders blocking or impeding traffic, trespassing onto property like a farm field, irrespective of signage ( if in doubt, *don't* ) blocking driveways,  and being less than nice to the residents when they inquire about your presence or intentions. If you

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread ArieGilbert
A problem not unique to this area is birders blocking or impeding traffic, trespassing onto property like a farm field, irrespective of signage ( if in doubt, *don't* ) blocking driveways,  and being less than nice to the residents when they inquire about your presence or intentions. If you

Re: [nysbirds-l] Private property / Ferruginous Hawk

2021-01-19 Thread Joshua Malbin
Perhaps it would be helpful to provide a list of areas or roads where it is permissible for birders to go to attempt to see this bird, with the presumption that they should treat all other areas as off-limits.

Re: [nysbirds-l] Private property / Ferruginous Hawk

2021-01-19 Thread Joshua Malbin
Perhaps it would be helpful to provide a list of areas or roads where it is permissible for birders to go to attempt to see this bird, with the presumption that they should treat all other areas as off-limits.

[nysbirds-l] Private property / Ferruginous Hawk

2021-01-19 Thread Richard Guthrie
Reminder: the hawk will on occasion go to fields in private property. DO NOT trespass. The landowners are adamant about this. While some have been lenient about allowing limited access on occasion this is not one of them. Don’t ruin it for the local birders who have had long time good

[nysbirds-l] Private property / Ferruginous Hawk

2021-01-19 Thread Richard Guthrie
Reminder: the hawk will on occasion go to fields in private property. DO NOT trespass. The landowners are adamant about this. While some have been lenient about allowing limited access on occasion this is not one of them. Don’t ruin it for the local birders who have had long time good

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Trachlar
I realize at least from what I have read (e.g. with a homeowner on the road w the “Camel Farm” (Rte 62) and Mission Land Road) that there have been issues between property owners in the black dirt region and birders. Obviously owners have a right in this Country to keep folks off their property

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Trachlar
I realize at least from what I have read (e.g. with a homeowner on the road w the “Camel Farm” (Rte 62) and Mission Land Road) that there have been issues between property owners in the black dirt region and birders. Obviously owners have a right in this Country to keep folks off their property

Re:[nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Adrian Burke
Now back to field here (41.3594553, -74.3949254) seen from Celery Swamp Rd. Leaving now since it is private, thanks Ari for the update on that. Adrian El El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 11:48 a. m., Adrian Burke < aburke...@gmail.com> escribió: > FEHA has flown to tree alongside Pulaski Hwy btwn

Re:[nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Adrian Burke
Now back to field here (41.3594553, -74.3949254) seen from Celery Swamp Rd. Leaving now since it is private, thanks Ari for the update on that. Adrian El El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 11:48 a. m., Adrian Burke < aburke...@gmail.com> escribió: > FEHA has flown to tree alongside Pulaski Hwy btwn

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Isaac Weiss
Thank Adrian for the constant updates. I just met one of the owners of the properties around here and he asked not to drive on cedar swamp Rd. He said it is a private road. Celery is a public Rd. Thank you all Ari On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 11:49 AM Adrian Burke wrote: > FEHA has flown to tree

Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Isaac Weiss
Thank Adrian for the constant updates. I just met one of the owners of the properties around here and he asked not to drive on cedar swamp Rd. He said it is a private road. Celery is a public Rd. Thank you all Ari On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 11:49 AM Adrian Burke wrote: > FEHA has flown to tree

Re:[nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Adrian Burke
FEHA has flown to tree alongside Pulaski Hwy btwn Pumpkin Swamp and Maloney Ln El El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 9:25 a. m., Adrian Burke < aburke...@gmail.com> escribió: > Not sure as the bird is distant (forgive me if it’s just a Red-tailed) but > I have a seemingly good candidate for the

Re:[nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Adrian Burke
FEHA has flown to tree alongside Pulaski Hwy btwn Pumpkin Swamp and Maloney Ln El El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 9:25 a. m., Adrian Burke < aburke...@gmail.com> escribió: > Not sure as the bird is distant (forgive me if it’s just a Red-tailed) but > I have a seemingly good candidate for the

[nysbirds-l] FEHA

2021-01-19 Thread Pat Aitken
Use Adrian's direction- john and I had a very good looking redtail -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)

[nysbirds-l] FEHA

2021-01-19 Thread Pat Aitken
Use Adrian's direction- john and I had a very good looking redtail -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)

Re:[nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Adrian Burke
Sorry, phone died earlier. Ferruginous Hawk still in view sitting in field at previous coordinates. Turn onto Cedar Swamp Road from Maple Ave then take the left fork (dirt road) along the field towards the end. Adrian Burke NYC El El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 9:47 a. m., Adrian Burke <

Re:[nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Adrian Burke
Sorry, phone died earlier. Ferruginous Hawk still in view sitting in field at previous coordinates. Turn onto Cedar Swamp Road from Maple Ave then take the left fork (dirt road) along the field towards the end. Adrian Burke NYC El El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 9:47 a. m., Adrian Burke <

[nysbirds-l] Ferruginous hawk

2021-01-19 Thread Pat Aitken
On lynch ave, in wooded area behind gate with "restricted area" sign -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)

[nysbirds-l] Ferruginous hawk

2021-01-19 Thread Pat Aitken
On lynch ave, in wooded area behind gate with "restricted area" sign -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)

Re:[nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Adrian Burke
from Maple turn onto Cedar Swamp rd and make a left on dirt rd down to its end El El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 9:27 a. m., Adrian Burke < aburke...@gmail.com> escribió: > Make that definite. Just flew a couple feet showing pale tail base and > pale wing panels. > > El El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a

Re:[nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Adrian Burke
from Maple turn onto Cedar Swamp rd and make a left on dirt rd down to its end El El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 9:27 a. m., Adrian Burke < aburke...@gmail.com> escribió: > Make that definite. Just flew a couple feet showing pale tail base and > pale wing panels. > > El El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a

Re:[nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Adrian Burke
Make that definite. Just flew a couple feet showing pale tail base and pale wing panels. El El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 9:25 a. m., Adrian Burke < aburke...@gmail.com> escribió: > Not sure as the bird is distant (forgive me if it’s just a Red-tailed) but > I have a seemingly good candidate for

Re:[nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Adrian Burke
Make that definite. Just flew a couple feet showing pale tail base and pale wing panels. El El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 9:25 a. m., Adrian Burke < aburke...@gmail.com> escribió: > Not sure as the bird is distant (forgive me if it’s just a Red-tailed) but > I have a seemingly good candidate for

[nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Adrian Burke
Not sure as the bird is distant (forgive me if it’s just a Red-tailed) but I have a seemingly good candidate for the Ferruginous Hawk sitting in a field here (41.3627576, -74.3899335) seen from here (41.3635432, -74.3887804). Face and base of tail seem rather pale, limited white on scapulars.

[nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread Adrian Burke
Not sure as the bird is distant (forgive me if it’s just a Red-tailed) but I have a seemingly good candidate for the Ferruginous Hawk sitting in a field here (41.3627576, -74.3899335) seen from here (41.3635432, -74.3887804). Face and base of tail seem rather pale, limited white on scapulars.

[nysbirds-l] Iceland Gull addendum, Central Park, NYC 1/18

2021-01-19 Thread Tom Fiore
An Iceland Gull (plumage in 2nd / 3rd year) has also continued on at the Central Park reservoir (in Manhattan, N.Y. City), sometimes not that easily seen, often in the central area of the reservoir; sightings anyhow continued into Mon., 1/18.   Also regular on that reservoir just lately has been a

[nysbirds-l] Iceland Gull addendum, Central Park, NYC 1/18

2021-01-19 Thread Tom Fiore
An Iceland Gull (plumage in 2nd / 3rd year) has also continued on at the Central Park reservoir (in Manhattan, N.Y. City), sometimes not that easily seen, often in the central area of the reservoir; sightings anyhow continued into Mon., 1/18.   Also regular on that reservoir just lately has been a

Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: January 19, 2021

2021-01-19 Thread Jay D
God bless Sy! He was a real gentleman and a great birder. "Spry Sy". That's what I called him. I think he was about 90 when I spotted him at the Jones Beach West End jetty. Incredible! He lived in Baldwin where I am also a resident. Condolences to his family. Jay Koolpix On Tue, Jan 19, 2021

Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: January 19, 2021

2021-01-19 Thread Jay D
God bless Sy! He was a real gentleman and a great birder. "Spry Sy". That's what I called him. I think he was about 90 when I spotted him at the Jones Beach West End jetty. Incredible! He lived in Baldwin where I am also a resident. Condolences to his family. Jay Koolpix On Tue, Jan 19, 2021