Re:[nysbirds-l] Very interesting finding
I don't think they gathered the wrack themselves. I know this beach very well.
The wrack has been there long before and it is all over the rocky beach and I
suspect that it has been used by Willet for nests sometime.
I remember once I saw a couple of willets go crazy when I came very close to
what looked like their nest but I couldn't find it and few weeks late, they
have chicks there.
On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 10:58:37 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
wrote
> div.zm_6577200324689976142_parse_-3632554252250034675 P { margin-top: 0;
> margin-bottom: 0 }Charadriiformes seem to be willing to keep trying to find
> ways to adapt to the loss of nesting habitat. It's nice to see AMOY are no
> exception. I've even seen reports of AMOY trying to adapt to rooftop nesting
> as the terns and skimmer have too. So, while intriguing it doesn't
> "surprise" me to hear of them trying a different strategy. Wrack, what you
> refer to as straw, is a common nesting substrate available on beaches and
> marsh islands.
> What would be interesting to know is did the AMOY gather the wrack to nest
> on, or did they capitalize on an existing deposit of wrack.
> The real question is since they are willing to adapt...are we?
>
> Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
> created them" -Einstein
>
>
>
>
> From: Gus Keri
> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:54 PM
> To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert
> Subject: Very interesting finding ATTENTION: This email came from an
> external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown
> senders or unexpected emails.
>
>
> While walking the beaches of Shirley Chisholm State Park today checking the
> area where Oystercatchers nested last year, I noticed a "nest-protective"
> behavior by an Oystercatcher, but it wasn't in the same area. It was in an
> area where there is no sand above the tide level. I have never seen
> Oystercatcher nest in areas other then sandy beaches. All the nests I have
> seen over the year were build on sand.
>
> Suddenly, another Oystercatcher flew off the rocky area after it saw me
> approaching. When I checked the place, I found a nest built on straws on top
> of rocks. It was very surprising to me. I know Willet build their nests on
> these straws but not oystercatcher.
>
> I remember that last year the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the
> very limited sandy area of this beach had failed and most likely because of
> a sea storm, The nest was very close to the high tide line.
>
> This year, the Oystercatchers decided to use a Willet method and build a
> nest on straws on top of the rock, way above the high tide line
> It is a nice way to improvise in harsh conditions and keeping the species
> going. A survival instinct, I guess.
>
> You can see photos of this nest on eBird:
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S89493742
>
> Gus Keri
>
>
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Re:[nysbirds-l] Very interesting finding
I don't think they gathered the wrack themselves. I know this beach very well.
The wrack has been there long before and it is all over the rocky beach and I
suspect that it has been used by Willet for nests sometime.
I remember once I saw a couple of willets go crazy when I came very close to
what looked like their nest but I couldn't find it and few weeks late, they
have chicks there.
On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 10:58:37 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
wrote
> div.zm_6577200324689976142_parse_-3632554252250034675 P { margin-top: 0;
> margin-bottom: 0 }Charadriiformes seem to be willing to keep trying to find
> ways to adapt to the loss of nesting habitat. It's nice to see AMOY are no
> exception. I've even seen reports of AMOY trying to adapt to rooftop nesting
> as the terns and skimmer have too. So, while intriguing it doesn't
> "surprise" me to hear of them trying a different strategy. Wrack, what you
> refer to as straw, is a common nesting substrate available on beaches and
> marsh islands.
> What would be interesting to know is did the AMOY gather the wrack to nest
> on, or did they capitalize on an existing deposit of wrack.
> The real question is since they are willing to adapt...are we?
>
> Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
> created them" -Einstein
>
>
>
>
> From: Gus Keri
> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:54 PM
> To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert
> Subject: Very interesting finding ATTENTION: This email came from an
> external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown
> senders or unexpected emails.
>
>
> While walking the beaches of Shirley Chisholm State Park today checking the
> area where Oystercatchers nested last year, I noticed a "nest-protective"
> behavior by an Oystercatcher, but it wasn't in the same area. It was in an
> area where there is no sand above the tide level. I have never seen
> Oystercatcher nest in areas other then sandy beaches. All the nests I have
> seen over the year were build on sand.
>
> Suddenly, another Oystercatcher flew off the rocky area after it saw me
> approaching. When I checked the place, I found a nest built on straws on top
> of rocks. It was very surprising to me. I know Willet build their nests on
> these straws but not oystercatcher.
>
> I remember that last year the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the
> very limited sandy area of this beach had failed and most likely because of
> a sea storm, The nest was very close to the high tide line.
>
> This year, the Oystercatchers decided to use a Willet method and build a
> nest on straws on top of the rock, way above the high tide line
> It is a nice way to improvise in harsh conditions and keeping the species
> going. A survival instinct, I guess.
>
> You can see photos of this nest on eBird:
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S89493742
>
> Gus Keri
>
>
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[nysbirds-l] N.Y. County (NYC), 6/1 & 6/2
New York County (in N.Y. City), including Manhattan, Randall’s, & Governors Island[s] Tues. June 1st & Wed., June 2nd - The clearing-out of many migrants here was noticeable by Tuesday, and far more so by Wednesday. However, there are still some migrants pushing through, including species we typically don’t expect into June, or not in any numbers. There are often any number (of species, that is) of landbirds that will be found lingering or lagging in this city, & in particular in some of the Manhattan parks or smaller green-spaces; occasionally, a few of such individuals will stay all through a summer; this can include some warblers which are not known to nest here (even if sometimes inclusive of species that have bred within 5 to 50 miles of Manhattan). A Linnaean Society of New York (a nonprofit org.) walk in Central Park on Tuesday found among other birds, an Olive-sided Flycatcher yet again in the Ramble area of the park, and a modest number of warbler species. Also found was a Black-billed Cuckoo, and there are still both species of Cuckoo around, with Yellow-billed the more-regularly seen (and a few of those still around on Wed. in Manhattan). A number of Empidonax [genus] Flycatchers also have been seen again, with Yellow-bellied one that can be ID’d. with good views on sight. Also continuing in a few locations have been Acadian Flycatcher, and the latter is at least a potential breeder in the county (and has bred in N.Y. City). However, in this part of June, we may see any number of migrant species giving a bit of hope for potential-nesting, only to find that a lot of those individuals will have moved on by mid to late June (or sooner). Warblers of at least 15 species were still being found in the 2 days of this report, however some of those were likely down to a very very few individuals of their species. The slightly more numerous laggards or lingerers have included Blackpoll Warbler & American Redstart, with the (rather typical) modest no’s. of Common Yellowthroats & Yellow Warblers (the last 2 having bred in New York County on a fairly regular, if relatively-sparse basis, & with all the challenges that can face almost all songbirds in this county). Also still in modest no’s. and not known to breed in the county (but not very far away) have been Black-and-white Warblers, while small no’s. of N. Parula, Magnolia Warbler, and Ovenbird have persisted. The others that have also continued into at least this earliest part of June include Chestnut-sided, Black-throated Blue, Blackburnian, & Canada Warblers, and additionally, some N. Waterthrushes, Tennessee, and Mourning Warbler[s]. There might also be a few additional species lingering or still to show, as the possible last throes of spring migration are seen (esp. in the next clearing-out of stormy weather, by this coming weekend). Some of these warblers are being found in small parks or green-spaces, while a fair number are still to be seen in the larger parks. I thought it rather noticeable how many Swainson’s Thrush looked to have moved on, even by Tues. but especially cleared-out by Wednesday. Also seeming to have mostly moved-on have been Scarlet Tanagers. Most migrant sparrows ‘should’ have moved on by now; the White-throated Soarrows that are still around here now will perhaps still move out, but of those that don’t, we welcome their cheering songs & the sight of the few that (most years) summer in both a few of the larger parks, & in some smaller spaces as well. (White-throated Sparrow is also one of N.Y. County’s most numerous wintering songbird species, so it’s sort of fun to have a few that are in the sense of at least the overall species, “year-rounders”.) Central Park continues to have at least a few Wood Ducks, and that’s not at all unusual for a summer there. They may not be nesting, but the at-least 50+ species of birds that do nest in N.Y. County (including the outlying islands in the county) rather regularly are already at work on either nest-building, tending to eggs or nestlings, or in some species, already dealing with fledgelings & juveniles. Please use all commonsense and restraint near and around nest-sites. good birding to all, Tom Fiore manhattan -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] N.Y. County (NYC), 6/1 & 6/2
New York County (in N.Y. City), including Manhattan, Randall’s, & Governors Island[s] Tues. June 1st & Wed., June 2nd - The clearing-out of many migrants here was noticeable by Tuesday, and far more so by Wednesday. However, there are still some migrants pushing through, including species we typically don’t expect into June, or not in any numbers. There are often any number (of species, that is) of landbirds that will be found lingering or lagging in this city, & in particular in some of the Manhattan parks or smaller green-spaces; occasionally, a few of such individuals will stay all through a summer; this can include some warblers which are not known to nest here (even if sometimes inclusive of species that have bred within 5 to 50 miles of Manhattan). A Linnaean Society of New York (a nonprofit org.) walk in Central Park on Tuesday found among other birds, an Olive-sided Flycatcher yet again in the Ramble area of the park, and a modest number of warbler species. Also found was a Black-billed Cuckoo, and there are still both species of Cuckoo around, with Yellow-billed the more-regularly seen (and a few of those still around on Wed. in Manhattan). A number of Empidonax [genus] Flycatchers also have been seen again, with Yellow-bellied one that can be ID’d. with good views on sight. Also continuing in a few locations have been Acadian Flycatcher, and the latter is at least a potential breeder in the county (and has bred in N.Y. City). However, in this part of June, we may see any number of migrant species giving a bit of hope for potential-nesting, only to find that a lot of those individuals will have moved on by mid to late June (or sooner). Warblers of at least 15 species were still being found in the 2 days of this report, however some of those were likely down to a very very few individuals of their species. The slightly more numerous laggards or lingerers have included Blackpoll Warbler & American Redstart, with the (rather typical) modest no’s. of Common Yellowthroats & Yellow Warblers (the last 2 having bred in New York County on a fairly regular, if relatively-sparse basis, & with all the challenges that can face almost all songbirds in this county). Also still in modest no’s. and not known to breed in the county (but not very far away) have been Black-and-white Warblers, while small no’s. of N. Parula, Magnolia Warbler, and Ovenbird have persisted. The others that have also continued into at least this earliest part of June include Chestnut-sided, Black-throated Blue, Blackburnian, & Canada Warblers, and additionally, some N. Waterthrushes, Tennessee, and Mourning Warbler[s]. There might also be a few additional species lingering or still to show, as the possible last throes of spring migration are seen (esp. in the next clearing-out of stormy weather, by this coming weekend). Some of these warblers are being found in small parks or green-spaces, while a fair number are still to be seen in the larger parks. I thought it rather noticeable how many Swainson’s Thrush looked to have moved on, even by Tues. but especially cleared-out by Wednesday. Also seeming to have mostly moved-on have been Scarlet Tanagers. Most migrant sparrows ‘should’ have moved on by now; the White-throated Soarrows that are still around here now will perhaps still move out, but of those that don’t, we welcome their cheering songs & the sight of the few that (most years) summer in both a few of the larger parks, & in some smaller spaces as well. (White-throated Sparrow is also one of N.Y. County’s most numerous wintering songbird species, so it’s sort of fun to have a few that are in the sense of at least the overall species, “year-rounders”.) Central Park continues to have at least a few Wood Ducks, and that’s not at all unusual for a summer there. They may not be nesting, but the at-least 50+ species of birds that do nest in N.Y. County (including the outlying islands in the county) rather regularly are already at work on either nest-building, tending to eggs or nestlings, or in some species, already dealing with fledgelings & juveniles. Please use all commonsense and restraint near and around nest-sites. good birding to all, Tom Fiore manhattan -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Very interesting finding
While walking the beaches of Shirley Chisholm State Park today checking the area where Oystercatchers nested last year, I noticed a "nest-protective" behavior by an Oystercatcher, but it wasn't in the same area. It was in an area where there is no sand above the tide level. I have never seen Oystercatcher nest in areas other then sandy beaches. All the nests I have seen over the year were build on sand. Suddenly, another Oystercatcher flew off the rocky area after it saw me approaching. When I checked the place, I found a nest built on straws on top of rocks. It was very surprising to me. I know Willet build their nests on these straws but not oystercatcher. I remember that last year the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the very limited sandy area of this beach had failed and most likely because of a sea storm, The nest was very close to the high tide line. This year, the Oystercatchers decided to use a Willet method and build a nest on straws on top of the rock, way above the high tide line It is a nice way to improvise in harsh conditions and keeping the species going. A survival instinct, I guess. You can see photos of this nest on eBird: https://ebird.org/checklist/S89493742 Gus Keri -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Very interesting finding
While walking the beaches of Shirley Chisholm State Park today checking the area where Oystercatchers nested last year, I noticed a "nest-protective" behavior by an Oystercatcher, but it wasn't in the same area. It was in an area where there is no sand above the tide level. I have never seen Oystercatcher nest in areas other then sandy beaches. All the nests I have seen over the year were build on sand. Suddenly, another Oystercatcher flew off the rocky area after it saw me approaching. When I checked the place, I found a nest built on straws on top of rocks. It was very surprising to me. I know Willet build their nests on these straws but not oystercatcher. I remember that last year the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the very limited sandy area of this beach had failed and most likely because of a sea storm, The nest was very close to the high tide line. This year, the Oystercatchers decided to use a Willet method and build a nest on straws on top of the rock, way above the high tide line It is a nice way to improvise in harsh conditions and keeping the species going. A survival instinct, I guess. You can see photos of this nest on eBird: https://ebird.org/checklist/S89493742 Gus Keri -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
