[nysbirds-l] Odd B Oriole behavior question

[Rick Kedenburg]

Hi NYS Birders, I had an odd display of B Oriole behavior a few days ago.

I have two potted hibiscus plants under my two hummingbird feeders. Yes I know 
they are non-native but they do attract hummingbirds and they are potted. One 
is on the front deck and the other on the back.

I have an occasional visit from a female B Oriole to my suet feeders. She likes 
to cover both spots.

Well I observed her on the back hibiscus and she proceeded to snip, with 
surgical precision, every red flower on the plant.

She then went to the front deck and did the same to that hibiscus and I do mean 
with surgical precision. Every flower was nipped without touching the stem or 
the green leaves surrounding the base.

I thought maybe she needed the flowers for something but she just flew off 
leaving the flowers untouched and unused.

Has anyone ever seen this type of behavior from an oriole before ??? I would be 
interested in knowing the reason. 

Rick, North Fork LI NY
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[nysbirds-l] Odd B Oriole behavior question

[Rick Kedenburg]

Hi NYS Birders, I had an odd display of B Oriole behavior a few days ago.

I have two potted hibiscus plants under my two hummingbird feeders. Yes I know 
they are non-native but they do attract hummingbirds and they are potted. One 
is on the front deck and the other on the back.

I have an occasional visit from a female B Oriole to my suet feeders. She likes 
to cover both spots.

Well I observed her on the back hibiscus and she proceeded to snip, with 
surgical precision, every red flower on the plant.

She then went to the front deck and did the same to that hibiscus and I do mean 
with surgical precision. Every flower was nipped without touching the stem or 
the green leaves surrounding the base.

I thought maybe she needed the flowers for something but she just flew off 
leaving the flowers untouched and unused.

Has anyone ever seen this type of behavior from an oriole before ??? I would be 
interested in knowing the reason. 

Rick, North Fork LI NY
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays!

[Rick Kedenburg]

Thank you for your lovely poem of hope and love. I was very moved.
Rick

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 12:23 AM, Mayra Cruz  wrote:
> 
> Hola,
> To All Our Friends, We have missed you!
> We can’t wait to Bird On, with all of you fast a foot. Searching, seeking 
> that rare vagrant Bird.
> Merry Christmas, May the Cardinals be the color of fresh Summer Cherries, May 
> the Bluejays be as blue as an Ocean, May the Mourning Doves with their Cooing 
> bid a Farewell to all Souls We Lost.
> And All Birds of Wonder, Colors And Songs Welcome a Happy New Year, 
> 2021!
> Hoping to be in your company Soon!
> BIRD ON!!!
> Noa & Mayra
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays!

[Rick Kedenburg]

Thank you for your lovely poem of hope and love. I was very moved.
Rick

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 12:23 AM, Mayra Cruz  wrote:
> 
> Hola,
> To All Our Friends, We have missed you!
> We can’t wait to Bird On, with all of you fast a foot. Searching, seeking 
> that rare vagrant Bird.
> Merry Christmas, May the Cardinals be the color of fresh Summer Cherries, May 
> the Bluejays be as blue as an Ocean, May the Mourning Doves with their Cooing 
> bid a Farewell to all Souls We Lost.
> And All Birds of Wonder, Colors And Songs Welcome a Happy New Year, 
> 2021!
> Hoping to be in your company Soon!
> BIRD ON!!!
> Noa & Mayra
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> --
> 
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> 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Governors Island: European Goldfinch Flock (18-Dec)

[Rick]

Lest we forget, a number of existing cases (parrots often, some of which we
find locally) in which strays turned into intermittent breeders, and now are
established, countable exotics. Shouldn't we be interested in how this
transition occurs (or fails to do so)?

In my Brooklyn XMas count database, we track a number of exotics, but flag
them as "non-countable."  In producing reports, we may differentiate
countable years from non-countable by years, if so desired. This is not a
difficult feat, as long as the data model is well-designed. Can eBirds do
this? Arguably it should. This would support a number of the data tracking
suggestions already put forward in this thread.

Just a thought,
Rick

-Original Message-
From: bounce-122144285-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-122144285-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal
Mitra
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 3:02 PM
To: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Governors Island: European Goldfinch Flock
(18-Dec)

I agree strongly with John and Angus. The consequences for the eBird Hot 100
are at most not very important and at least potentially amusing. I thought
everybody knew they were supposed to keep track of their own lists, rather
than to trust in the algorithms of strangers!

More specifically, regarding European Goldfinches in the New York City area
now, the numbers of birds present and the area occupied are large enough to
suggest establishment. Perhaps not everybody is aware that this species
established breeding populations on western Long Island for decades. It is
even conceivable that these were never completely extirpated, and that
today's birds derive at least in part from those naturalized populations
(but they are certainly at least partly derived from recent escapes, as
proven by the presence of plastic leg bands on some). The best argument
against the hypothesis of demographic continuity between the period of
establishment and the current resurgence in reported abundance is that very
few or none were reported for several decades. But this is at best a weak
argument from negative data that are known to be systematically biased
against reporting. 

Monk Parakeets provide a parallel example that is very instructive. This
species established breeding populations in the New York City/Long Island
region that were fairly large and widespread by the early 1970s. These were
subjected to eradication programs during the mid-1970s, and perceptions
shifted to the extent that NYSARC acted (overly boldly in my opinion) to
remove the species from the official New York State Checklist in 1982.
Reports almost ceased during this period, but we know in this case that the
gap in documented occurrence was an error arising from two sources: because
backyard birders who liked the parakeets concealed their presence to protect
them from destruction; but also because the remaining birds were perceived
as "not countable" by competitive birders. 

Today's thread illustrates that under-reporting of "not countable" species
has persisted in birding culture, to the detriment of our ability to infer
the actual statuses of non-native species.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore

From: bounce-122144147-11143...@list.cornell.edu
[bounce-122144147-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of John Laver
[eart...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 2:20 PM
To: Angus Wilson
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Governors Island: European Goldfinch Flock
(18-Dec)

"Personally, I think tracking these potential colonizers is important and
interesting. Simply invalidating them or discouraging reporting isn't a good
solution."

Agreed, particularly as range flux is likely to accelerate in ways we'll
need to observe and measure as climate changes take hold.  We need to think
about the Big Picture.

John Laver
Manhattan

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Angus Wilson
<oceanwander...@gmail.com<mailto:oceanwander...@gmail.com>> wrote:
For European Goldfinch I suspect 'domesticated' isn't an option. Same for
other known or presumed escapes or deliberate releases that occur with
regularity in NYS (e.g. Chukar and various non-domesticated waterfowl).
Personally, I think tracking these potential colonizers is important and
interesting. Simply invalidating them or discouraging reporting isn't a good
solution. Issues with list purity can be a separate conversation, decoupled
from the scientific uses of this information.

Angus Wilson
New York City, NY
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Governors Island: European Goldfinch Flock (18-Dec)

[Rick]

Lest we forget, a number of existing cases (parrots often, some of which we
find locally) in which strays turned into intermittent breeders, and now are
established, countable exotics. Shouldn't we be interested in how this
transition occurs (or fails to do so)?

In my Brooklyn XMas count database, we track a number of exotics, but flag
them as "non-countable."  In producing reports, we may differentiate
countable years from non-countable by years, if so desired. This is not a
difficult feat, as long as the data model is well-designed. Can eBirds do
this? Arguably it should. This would support a number of the data tracking
suggestions already put forward in this thread.

Just a thought,
Rick

-Original Message-
From: bounce-122144285-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-122144285-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal
Mitra
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 3:02 PM
To: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) 
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Governors Island: European Goldfinch Flock
(18-Dec)

I agree strongly with John and Angus. The consequences for the eBird Hot 100
are at most not very important and at least potentially amusing. I thought
everybody knew they were supposed to keep track of their own lists, rather
than to trust in the algorithms of strangers!

More specifically, regarding European Goldfinches in the New York City area
now, the numbers of birds present and the area occupied are large enough to
suggest establishment. Perhaps not everybody is aware that this species
established breeding populations on western Long Island for decades. It is
even conceivable that these were never completely extirpated, and that
today's birds derive at least in part from those naturalized populations
(but they are certainly at least partly derived from recent escapes, as
proven by the presence of plastic leg bands on some). The best argument
against the hypothesis of demographic continuity between the period of
establishment and the current resurgence in reported abundance is that very
few or none were reported for several decades. But this is at best a weak
argument from negative data that are known to be systematically biased
against reporting. 

Monk Parakeets provide a parallel example that is very instructive. This
species established breeding populations in the New York City/Long Island
region that were fairly large and widespread by the early 1970s. These were
subjected to eradication programs during the mid-1970s, and perceptions
shifted to the extent that NYSARC acted (overly boldly in my opinion) to
remove the species from the official New York State Checklist in 1982.
Reports almost ceased during this period, but we know in this case that the
gap in documented occurrence was an error arising from two sources: because
backyard birders who liked the parakeets concealed their presence to protect
them from destruction; but also because the remaining birds were perceived
as "not countable" by competitive birders. 

Today's thread illustrates that under-reporting of "not countable" species
has persisted in birding culture, to the detriment of our ability to infer
the actual statuses of non-native species.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore

From: bounce-122144147-11143...@list.cornell.edu
[bounce-122144147-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of John Laver
[eart...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 2:20 PM
To: Angus Wilson
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Governors Island: European Goldfinch Flock
(18-Dec)

"Personally, I think tracking these potential colonizers is important and
interesting. Simply invalidating them or discouraging reporting isn't a good
solution."

Agreed, particularly as range flux is likely to accelerate in ways we'll
need to observe and measure as climate changes take hold.  We need to think
about the Big Picture.

John Laver
Manhattan

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Angus Wilson
mailto:oceanwander...@gmail.com>> wrote:
For European Goldfinch I suspect 'domesticated' isn't an option. Same for
other known or presumed escapes or deliberate releases that occur with
regularity in NYS (e.g. Chukar and various non-domesticated waterfowl).
Personally, I think tracking these potential colonizers is important and
interesting. Simply invalidating them or discouraging reporting isn't a good
solution. Issues with list purity can be a separate conversation, decoupled
from the scientific uses of this information.

Angus Wilson
New York City, NY
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RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

[Rick]

Quick agreement with Shai -- by "non-migratory" I didn't mean "feral", just
populations that in the past may have been migratory but have now become
sedentary / local, in some or all seasons.

-Original Message-
From: bounce-122103624-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-122103624-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal
Mitra
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 10:22 PM
To: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

As everyone so far has contributed in good faith, and given that this
listserv is devoted to NYS birds of all kinds, not just rare, why not
discuss?

My perception is that waterfowl are thriving above and beyond all other
ecological guilds. The explosion in Canada Goose numbers is not attributable
to the feral component; it is the northern, natural populations that are
expanding under climate change. In general, we have been finding ducks and
geese in tremendous abundance and diversity throughout NYS in recent years.
If Mute Swans are a problem, it is a very small one compared to many other
threats to our environment. And, as Rick points out, our environment has
been abused so badly for so long that a lot of what is still here is in a
co-dependent relationship with past abuse. 

For example, there are legitimate (mostly non-avian) rationales undergirding
the recent fascination with undoing Long Island's ubiquitous, centuries-old
dams. While possibly restoring fish runs, this policy would also drain
innumerable South Shore ponds, probably removing many thousands of ducks
from Long Island--more than Mute Swans ever displaced. Arguably these would
be ducks that "shouldn't have been here anyway," but what if the fish
populations don't recover either? But this is just one example. Should we
invest in the Sisyphean eradication of multiflora rose? Honeysuckle?
Phragmites? The answers to these various massive-scale questions range from
"probably not" to "maybe."

In contrast, I think the expenditure of time and money on eradicating Mute
Swans is entirely misplaced. The potential benefits are demonstrably small,
and the public relations costs are likely significant--and this is not to
mention the logistical costs. Why not use those resources and whatever
public good will remains in this dark age to buy xxx hectares of
scabby-looking oak woods? If we don't, all we'll have are sterile
creaks--without dams but also without ponds--built up to the edges, and
without any woods either.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore

From: bounce-122103568-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[bounce-122103568-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Rick
[rc...@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 9:22 PM
To: 'Tim Dunn'; 'Frederick Kedenburg'
Cc: 'Michael Cooper'; 'NYS BIRDS'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

First, kudos to Chris T-H for keeping order in our rangy group. A laudable
task, not simple.

Second, the fact that one invasive (Mute Swans) may be more of less
destructive than another (non-migratory "barnyard" Canada Geese) is a
sensible question for discussion (maybe or maybe not on a rare bird
list-serve, but leave that aside for the moment).

Like many birders, I abhor human intrusions into natural bird habitats and
behavior (such as introduction of invasives, even though they admittedly may
have the odd beneficial effect, such as some popular garden plants that
provide sustenance for native butterfly species, my specialty), and I
likewise abhor anthromorpic "cuddling" of cute species that cause massive
harm (feral cats). I also recognize the "PR" value of engaging public
sentiment with salient "nature hooks," while being aware of the double-edged
sword nature of such appeals.

Maybe our list serve is not the right place to hold these discussions, esp.
when they become vitriolic. But what is the right forum? I'm interested in
having a well-thought-through set of conservation propositions being widely
discussed and endorsed in the community.

Suggestions?

Rick

From: bounce-122103507-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-122103507-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Dunn
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 8:37 PM
To: Frederick Kedenburg <kedenb...@optonline.net>
Cc: Michael Cooper <mike5...@icloud.com>; NYS BIRDS <NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

I agree Fred, as to the context of the conversation. It's not an easy issue
for birders and reasonable minds can differ on these issues.

I also have no problem with dealing with the "immigrant" swan population as
humanely as possible. To me, the most palatable solution would probably be
to prevent more cygnets and let the existing population live out their
lives, though I also suspect that would be the most expensive way to deal
with or solve th

RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

[Rick]

Quick agreement with Shai -- by "non-migratory" I didn't mean "feral", just
populations that in the past may have been migratory but have now become
sedentary / local, in some or all seasons.

-Original Message-
From: bounce-122103624-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-122103624-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal
Mitra
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 10:22 PM
To: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) 
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

As everyone so far has contributed in good faith, and given that this
listserv is devoted to NYS birds of all kinds, not just rare, why not
discuss?

My perception is that waterfowl are thriving above and beyond all other
ecological guilds. The explosion in Canada Goose numbers is not attributable
to the feral component; it is the northern, natural populations that are
expanding under climate change. In general, we have been finding ducks and
geese in tremendous abundance and diversity throughout NYS in recent years.
If Mute Swans are a problem, it is a very small one compared to many other
threats to our environment. And, as Rick points out, our environment has
been abused so badly for so long that a lot of what is still here is in a
co-dependent relationship with past abuse. 

For example, there are legitimate (mostly non-avian) rationales undergirding
the recent fascination with undoing Long Island's ubiquitous, centuries-old
dams. While possibly restoring fish runs, this policy would also drain
innumerable South Shore ponds, probably removing many thousands of ducks
from Long Island--more than Mute Swans ever displaced. Arguably these would
be ducks that "shouldn't have been here anyway," but what if the fish
populations don't recover either? But this is just one example. Should we
invest in the Sisyphean eradication of multiflora rose? Honeysuckle?
Phragmites? The answers to these various massive-scale questions range from
"probably not" to "maybe."

In contrast, I think the expenditure of time and money on eradicating Mute
Swans is entirely misplaced. The potential benefits are demonstrably small,
and the public relations costs are likely significant--and this is not to
mention the logistical costs. Why not use those resources and whatever
public good will remains in this dark age to buy xxx hectares of
scabby-looking oak woods? If we don't, all we'll have are sterile
creaks--without dams but also without ponds--built up to the edges, and
without any woods either.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore

From: bounce-122103568-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[bounce-122103568-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Rick
[rc...@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 9:22 PM
To: 'Tim Dunn'; 'Frederick Kedenburg'
Cc: 'Michael Cooper'; 'NYS BIRDS'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

First, kudos to Chris T-H for keeping order in our rangy group. A laudable
task, not simple.

Second, the fact that one invasive (Mute Swans) may be more of less
destructive than another (non-migratory "barnyard" Canada Geese) is a
sensible question for discussion (maybe or maybe not on a rare bird
list-serve, but leave that aside for the moment).

Like many birders, I abhor human intrusions into natural bird habitats and
behavior (such as introduction of invasives, even though they admittedly may
have the odd beneficial effect, such as some popular garden plants that
provide sustenance for native butterfly species, my specialty), and I
likewise abhor anthromorpic "cuddling" of cute species that cause massive
harm (feral cats). I also recognize the "PR" value of engaging public
sentiment with salient "nature hooks," while being aware of the double-edged
sword nature of such appeals.

Maybe our list serve is not the right place to hold these discussions, esp.
when they become vitriolic. But what is the right forum? I'm interested in
having a well-thought-through set of conservation propositions being widely
discussed and endorsed in the community.

Suggestions?

Rick

From: bounce-122103507-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-122103507-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Dunn
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 8:37 PM
To: Frederick Kedenburg 
Cc: Michael Cooper ; NYS BIRDS 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

I agree Fred, as to the context of the conversation. It's not an easy issue
for birders and reasonable minds can differ on these issues.

I also have no problem with dealing with the "immigrant" swan population as
humanely as possible. To me, the most palatable solution would probably be
to prevent more cygnets and let the existing population live out their
lives, though I also suspect that would be the most expensive way to deal
with or solve the problem, with the DEC oiling and pricking eggs for
decades.

Frankly, I don't know how the swan overpopulation 

RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

[Rick]

First, kudos to Chris T-H for keeping order in our rangy group. A laudable 
task, not simple.

 

Second, the fact that one invasive (Mute Swans) may be more of less destructive 
than another (non-migratory “barnyard” Canada Geese) is a sensible question for 
discussion (maybe or maybe not on a rare bird list-serve, but leave that aside 
for the moment). 

 

Like many birders, I abhor human intrusions into natural bird habitats and 
behavior (such as introduction of invasives, even though they admittedly may 
have the odd beneficial effect, such as some popular garden plants that provide 
sustenance for native butterfly species, my specialty), and I likewise abhor 
anthromorpic “cuddling” of cute species that cause massive harm (feral cats). I 
also recognize the “PR” value of engaging public sentiment with salient “nature 
hooks,” while being aware of the double-edged sword nature of such appeals. 

 

Maybe our list serve is not the right place to hold these discussions, esp. 
when they become vitriolic. But what is the right forum? I’m interested in 
having a well-thought-through set of conservation propositions being widely 
discussed and endorsed in the community. 

 

Suggestions?

 

Rick

 

From: bounce-122103507-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-122103507-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Dunn
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 8:37 PM
To: Frederick Kedenburg <kedenb...@optonline.net>
Cc: Michael Cooper <mike5...@icloud.com>; NYS BIRDS <NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

 

I agree Fred, as to the context of the conversation. It’s not an easy issue for 
birders and reasonable minds can differ on these issues. 

 

I also have no problem with dealing with the “immigrant” swan population as 
humanely as possible. To me, the most palatable solution would probably be to 
prevent more cygnets and let the existing population live out their lives, 
though I also suspect that would be the most expensive way to deal with or 
solve the problem, with the DEC oiling and pricking eggs for decades. 

 

Frankly, I don’t know how the swan overpopulation on my local pond should be 
addressed, but I’d only be in favor of a dealing with it through a method that 
is decent and humane. I would like to see a return of some native waterfowl 
that I blame the swans for driving out. Certainly, it’s not necessary to 
eliminate every mute swan, but my opinion is that there needs to be some 
control of populations in certain places like Argyle Lake.  Argyle still holds 
the occasional birding surprise,  but native waterfowl numbers seem clearly to 
be down due to the proliferation of swans there. Hardly any waterfowl breed 
there now, besides the swans. 

 

Thanks,

Tim Dunn

Babylon, NY

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 4, 2017, at 7:54 PM, Frederick Kedenburg <kedenb...@optonline.net 
<mailto:kedenb...@optonline.net> > wrote:

I don’t think Chris T-H needs to weigh in on this as it is a polite 
conversation of an issue that we all know about.

Many of us have opinions that will not be changed. That is everyones right.

 

I have simply this one thing to say:

I know many out there wish to eliminate the Swans for what they believe are 
scientific reasons. 

I think the Mute Swan, now that they have been here for over a century, have as 
much a right to live as any immigrant does today.

Their numbers and the damage they do is really negligible compared to other 
species. 

 

Are not Swans now to be considered naturalized and a beauty for all to behold? 
I think they need this protection.

rk





On Dec 4, 2017, at 6:21 PM, Michael Cooper <mike5...@icloud.com 
<mailto:mike5...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

Well said Tim, but I think I hear the footsteps of 
Chris T-H on the way, so I’m going to mention a bird in this post and “duck” 
out of the way of the ban hammer!

 

Mike Cooper

Ridge LI NY

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 4, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Tim Dunn <timd...@optonline.net 
<mailto:timd...@optonline.net> > wrote:

Fred and any others interested, 

 

Two mute swans by you is no problem. Up to 65 can be seen on any given day on 
Argyle Lake in Babylon.  It is a pond that is less than 1/4 mile in 
circumference.  All other breeding waterfowl here have been eradicated by these 
swans. Some migrant waterfowl use the pond but less than in the past. Few 
dabbling ducks use it as swans have eaten all vegetation on the bottom of the 
pond to as far as their long necks can reach. 

 

Geese come and go in migration here, but the mute swans are a constant.  So I 
would expect that the reason that DEC wants to control them is that they are an 
invasive species that is destroying the local ecosystem and driving out native 
species. Maybe not happening by you, but definitely happening here in western 
Suffolk. 





Non-birders are aware of this issue because it appeared in the newspapers when 
the DEC came out and sa

RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

[Rick]

First, kudos to Chris T-H for keeping order in our rangy group. A laudable 
task, not simple.

 

Second, the fact that one invasive (Mute Swans) may be more of less destructive 
than another (non-migratory “barnyard” Canada Geese) is a sensible question for 
discussion (maybe or maybe not on a rare bird list-serve, but leave that aside 
for the moment). 

 

Like many birders, I abhor human intrusions into natural bird habitats and 
behavior (such as introduction of invasives, even though they admittedly may 
have the odd beneficial effect, such as some popular garden plants that provide 
sustenance for native butterfly species, my specialty), and I likewise abhor 
anthromorpic “cuddling” of cute species that cause massive harm (feral cats). I 
also recognize the “PR” value of engaging public sentiment with salient “nature 
hooks,” while being aware of the double-edged sword nature of such appeals. 

 

Maybe our list serve is not the right place to hold these discussions, esp. 
when they become vitriolic. But what is the right forum? I’m interested in 
having a well-thought-through set of conservation propositions being widely 
discussed and endorsed in the community. 

 

Suggestions?

 

Rick

 

From: bounce-122103507-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-122103507-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Dunn
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 8:37 PM
To: Frederick Kedenburg 
Cc: Michael Cooper ; NYS BIRDS 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

 

I agree Fred, as to the context of the conversation. It’s not an easy issue for 
birders and reasonable minds can differ on these issues. 

 

I also have no problem with dealing with the “immigrant” swan population as 
humanely as possible. To me, the most palatable solution would probably be to 
prevent more cygnets and let the existing population live out their lives, 
though I also suspect that would be the most expensive way to deal with or 
solve the problem, with the DEC oiling and pricking eggs for decades. 

 

Frankly, I don’t know how the swan overpopulation on my local pond should be 
addressed, but I’d only be in favor of a dealing with it through a method that 
is decent and humane. I would like to see a return of some native waterfowl 
that I blame the swans for driving out. Certainly, it’s not necessary to 
eliminate every mute swan, but my opinion is that there needs to be some 
control of populations in certain places like Argyle Lake.  Argyle still holds 
the occasional birding surprise,  but native waterfowl numbers seem clearly to 
be down due to the proliferation of swans there. Hardly any waterfowl breed 
there now, besides the swans. 

 

Thanks,

Tim Dunn

Babylon, NY

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 4, 2017, at 7:54 PM, Frederick Kedenburg mailto:kedenb...@optonline.net> > wrote:

I don’t think Chris T-H needs to weigh in on this as it is a polite 
conversation of an issue that we all know about.

Many of us have opinions that will not be changed. That is everyones right.

 

I have simply this one thing to say:

I know many out there wish to eliminate the Swans for what they believe are 
scientific reasons. 

I think the Mute Swan, now that they have been here for over a century, have as 
much a right to live as any immigrant does today.

Their numbers and the damage they do is really negligible compared to other 
species. 

 

Are not Swans now to be considered naturalized and a beauty for all to behold? 
I think they need this protection.

rk





On Dec 4, 2017, at 6:21 PM, Michael Cooper mailto:mike5...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

Well said Tim, but I think I hear the footsteps of 
Chris T-H on the way, so I’m going to mention a bird in this post and “duck” 
out of the way of the ban hammer!

 

Mike Cooper

Ridge LI NY

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 4, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Tim Dunn mailto:timd...@optonline.net> > wrote:

Fred and any others interested, 

 

Two mute swans by you is no problem. Up to 65 can be seen on any given day on 
Argyle Lake in Babylon.  It is a pond that is less than 1/4 mile in 
circumference.  All other breeding waterfowl here have been eradicated by these 
swans. Some migrant waterfowl use the pond but less than in the past. Few 
dabbling ducks use it as swans have eaten all vegetation on the bottom of the 
pond to as far as their long necks can reach. 

 

Geese come and go in migration here, but the mute swans are a constant.  So I 
would expect that the reason that DEC wants to control them is that they are an 
invasive species that is destroying the local ecosystem and driving out native 
species. Maybe not happening by you, but definitely happening here in western 
Suffolk. 





Non-birders are aware of this issue because it appeared in the newspapers when 
the DEC came out and said they would start removing the swans. That typically 
means shooting, trapping, poisoning, etc. Hardly anyone likes the idea of 
culling these birds through cruel and inhumane 

Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: December 02, 2017

[Rick]

Juvenile ravens form winter groups, Heinrich conducted a fascinating field 
study to find out why.  I won't spoil the suspense for those who haven't read 
it. Better than a Ludlum novel, highly recommended 

Rick 


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device


 Original message 
From: Lynn Bergmeyer <lynnbergme...@gmail.com> 
Date:12/02/2017  7:27 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: "& [NYSBIRDS]" <nysbird...@list.cornell.edu> 
Cc:  
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: December 02, 2017 

What exactly does "winter nonbreeder group" mean?

On Dec 2, 2017 12:08 AM, "& [NYSBIRDS] digest" <nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>
wrote:

> NYSBIRDS-L Digest for Saturday, December 02, 2017.
>
> 1. The Egret
> 2. =?UTF-8?Q?Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher=2D_YES?=
> 3. =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtlYmlyZHNueWNdIEhhbW1vbmTigJlzIEZseWNhdGNoZXItIFlFUw==
> ?=
> 4. =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[ebirdsnyc]_Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher-_YES?=
> 5. Breezy Point Lingering Migrants 11-29
> 6. =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[nysbirds-l]_Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher-_YES?=
> 7. Prothonotary Warbler - Yes
> 8. Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 9. RE: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 10. RE: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 11. Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 12. NYS eBird Hotspots: State, Counties & Locations Updated (Dec/'17)
> 13. Re: Prothonotary Warbler - Yes
> 14. Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 15. RBA Buffalo Bird Report 01 Dec 2017
> 16. NYC/Long Island Rarity Roundup This Weekend
> 17. Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 18. NYC Area RBA: 1 December 2017
> 19. Ramble Map with Named Locations
> 20. Re: Ramble Map with Named Locations
> 21. Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: Ramble Map with Named Locations
> 22. Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
>
> --
>
> Subject: The Egret
> From: Larry Trachtenberg <trachtenb...@amsllp.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 13:07:20 +
> X-Message-Number: 1
>
>
> I'd like to share a  passage from a wonderful novel I recently read, "The
> Yellow Birds" by Kevin Powers, which takes its place alongside Tim Obrien's
> "The Things They Carried", Mailer's "The Naked and the Dead", and
> Remarque's "All Quiet on the Western Front"  -- this time the setting is
> the Iraq war. The protagonist is by a stream near his Richmond, VA home --
> it's an magical experience most birders have had or at least can envision
> with a large wader but just can't express nearly as well:
>
> "My feet were in the water, and the river ran docilely by and I was hardly
> a speck on the landscape and I was glad. An egret flew just over my
> shoulder and skimmed the water so close and I thought there was no way a
> body could be so close to the edge of a thing and stay there and be in
> control. But the tips of its wings skimmed along the water just the same.
> The egret didn't seem to mind what I believed, and it tilted some and
> disappeared into the glare of the gone sun and it was full of grace."
>
> I see that Brett Bonkamp's brilliant bit of Hammond's flycatcher satire
> has been censored from the archives. Thus, it seems that when posting
> especially as the Holidays approach and an insane 2017 comes to a close --
> and while I enjoy a good put down as much as the next person -- perhaps we
> should all give a listen once again to John Prine's "People Putting People
> Down". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY0VmRR8FHU  Or better yet, spend
> some time admiring his amazing canon listening to Sam Stone, (apropos the
> war novels, I guess), Hello in There, Souvenirs, Paradise, Angel from
> Montgomery or Lake Marie.
>
> Good flycatchers to all.
>
>
> L. Trachtenberg
> Ossining
>
>
>
> --
>
> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher=2D_YES?=
> From: Anders Peltomaa <anders.pelto...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 10:05:55 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 2
>
> 9:46am Hammonds at maintenance south end #birdcp via @raikbar
>
> It's Continuing. Start weekend planning upstaters...
>
> Anders Peltomaa
>
> --
>
> Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtlYmlyZHNueWNdIEhhbW1vbm
> TigJlzIEZseWNhdGNoZXItIFlFUw==?=
> From: nathan o'reilly <natro...@hotmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 15:37:47 +
> X-Message-Number: 3
>
> Anders and wonder dog Bonnie will have the bird waiting on all of the
> upsta

Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: December 02, 2017

[Rick]

Juvenile ravens form winter groups, Heinrich conducted a fascinating field 
study to find out why.  I won't spoil the suspense for those who haven't read 
it. Better than a Ludlum novel, highly recommended 

Rick 


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device


 Original message 
From: Lynn Bergmeyer  
Date:12/02/2017  7:27 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: "& [NYSBIRDS]"  
Cc:  
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: December 02, 2017 

What exactly does "winter nonbreeder group" mean?

On Dec 2, 2017 12:08 AM, "& [NYSBIRDS] digest" 
wrote:

> NYSBIRDS-L Digest for Saturday, December 02, 2017.
>
> 1. The Egret
> 2. =?UTF-8?Q?Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher=2D_YES?=
> 3. =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtlYmlyZHNueWNdIEhhbW1vbmTigJlzIEZseWNhdGNoZXItIFlFUw==
> ?=
> 4. =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[ebirdsnyc]_Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher-_YES?=
> 5. Breezy Point Lingering Migrants 11-29
> 6. =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[nysbirds-l]_Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher-_YES?=
> 7. Prothonotary Warbler - Yes
> 8. Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 9. RE: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 10. RE: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 11. Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 12. NYS eBird Hotspots: State, Counties & Locations Updated (Dec/'17)
> 13. Re: Prothonotary Warbler - Yes
> 14. Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 15. RBA Buffalo Bird Report 01 Dec 2017
> 16. NYC/Long Island Rarity Roundup This Weekend
> 17. Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 18. NYC Area RBA: 1 December 2017
> 19. Ramble Map with Named Locations
> 20. Re: Ramble Map with Named Locations
> 21. Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: Ramble Map with Named Locations
> 22. Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
>
> --
>
> Subject: The Egret
> From: Larry Trachtenberg 
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 13:07:20 +
> X-Message-Number: 1
>
>
> I'd like to share a  passage from a wonderful novel I recently read, "The
> Yellow Birds" by Kevin Powers, which takes its place alongside Tim Obrien's
> "The Things They Carried", Mailer's "The Naked and the Dead", and
> Remarque's "All Quiet on the Western Front"  -- this time the setting is
> the Iraq war. The protagonist is by a stream near his Richmond, VA home --
> it's an magical experience most birders have had or at least can envision
> with a large wader but just can't express nearly as well:
>
> "My feet were in the water, and the river ran docilely by and I was hardly
> a speck on the landscape and I was glad. An egret flew just over my
> shoulder and skimmed the water so close and I thought there was no way a
> body could be so close to the edge of a thing and stay there and be in
> control. But the tips of its wings skimmed along the water just the same.
> The egret didn't seem to mind what I believed, and it tilted some and
> disappeared into the glare of the gone sun and it was full of grace."
>
> I see that Brett Bonkamp's brilliant bit of Hammond's flycatcher satire
> has been censored from the archives. Thus, it seems that when posting
> especially as the Holidays approach and an insane 2017 comes to a close --
> and while I enjoy a good put down as much as the next person -- perhaps we
> should all give a listen once again to John Prine's "People Putting People
> Down". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY0VmRR8FHU  Or better yet, spend
> some time admiring his amazing canon listening to Sam Stone, (apropos the
> war novels, I guess), Hello in There, Souvenirs, Paradise, Angel from
> Montgomery or Lake Marie.
>
> Good flycatchers to all.
>
>
> L. Trachtenberg
> Ossining
>
>
>
> --
>
> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher=2D_YES?=
> From: Anders Peltomaa 
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 10:05:55 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 2
>
> 9:46am Hammonds at maintenance south end #birdcp via @raikbar
>
> It's Continuing. Start weekend planning upstaters...
>
> Anders Peltomaa
>
> --
>
> Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtlYmlyZHNueWNdIEhhbW1vbm
> TigJlzIEZseWNhdGNoZXItIFlFUw==?=
> From: nathan o'reilly 
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 15:37:47 +
> X-Message-Number: 3
>
> Anders and wonder dog Bonnie will have the bird waiting on all of the
> upstaters early tomorrow morning!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Anders Peltomaa anders.pelto...@gmail.com<
> mailto:anders.pelto...@gmail.com> [ebirdsnyc]  yahoogrou

RE: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Rick]

On larger raven flocks (probably juvenile "gangs") See Bernd Heinrich's 
excellent "Ravens in Winter" (1989).

Rick

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device


 Original message 
From: Shaibal Mitra <shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu> 
Date:12/01/2017  2:42 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: "NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)" <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu> 
Cc:  
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI 

Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags over 
open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this morning at 
the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.

Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to see 
them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our binoculars, 
we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously: "They're ALL ravens!"

A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south of 
property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but there 
were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped in and out 
of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The group gradually 
dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were still visible at times 
over the next hour or so, including when Derek Rogers stopped by to see if I 
was ok.

Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger than 
a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe along salmon 
runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about right for the total 
population on all of Long Island.

Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.

The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition. Whereas we 
used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering ossifragus, 
now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows would be quite 
notable anywhere on western LI.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Rick]

On larger raven flocks (probably juvenile "gangs") See Bernd Heinrich's 
excellent "Ravens in Winter" (1989).

Rick

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device


 Original message 
From: Shaibal Mitra  
Date:12/01/2017  2:42 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: "NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)"  
Cc:  
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI 

Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags over 
open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this morning at 
the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.

Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to see 
them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our binoculars, 
we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously: "They're ALL ravens!"

A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south of 
property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but there 
were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped in and out 
of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The group gradually 
dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were still visible at times 
over the next hour or so, including when Derek Rogers stopped by to see if I 
was ok.

Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger than 
a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe along salmon 
runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about right for the total 
population on all of Long Island.

Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.

The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition. Whereas we 
used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering ossifragus, 
now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows would be quite 
notable anywhere on western LI.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Gulling in Brooklyn & Queens

[Rick]

I wonder if that’s the same Spottie we saw on last year’s Brooklyn CBC? Same 
location.

 

Rick

 

From: bounce-122076748-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-122076748-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Baksh
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 6:16 PM
To: nysbirds-l <nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>
Cc: Nyc ebirds <ebirds...@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Gulling in Brooklyn & Queens

 

The highlights from Gulling at multiple sites in Brooklyn and Queens include.

 

Black-legged Kittiwake (1) adult seen in a massive flock of Gulls just off Riis 
Park in Queens, That flock also produced 1 Iceland and 2 Lesser Black-backed 
Gulls.

 

2 Banded Herring Gulls and 1 banded Ring-billed Gull. Both of the banded 
Herring Gulls are from the Apploedore Island banding program.

 

At Bush Army Terminal Park in Brooklyn, I locked onto a late Spotted Sandpiper; 
very likely the same one I observed on October 28th. CBC folks will want to 
keep tabs on this one for their count as it is hanging around.

 

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Gulling in Brooklyn & Queens

[Rick]

I wonder if that’s the same Spottie we saw on last year’s Brooklyn CBC? Same 
location.

 

Rick

 

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[mailto:bounce-122076748-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Baksh
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 6:16 PM
To: nysbirds-l 
Cc: Nyc ebirds 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Gulling in Brooklyn & Queens

 

The highlights from Gulling at multiple sites in Brooklyn and Queens include.

 

Black-legged Kittiwake (1) adult seen in a massive flock of Gulls just off Riis 
Park in Queens, That flock also produced 1 Iceland and 2 Lesser Black-backed 
Gulls.

 

2 Banded Herring Gulls and 1 banded Ring-billed Gull. Both of the banded 
Herring Gulls are from the Apploedore Island banding program.

 

At Bush Army Terminal Park in Brooklyn, I locked onto a late Spotted Sandpiper; 
very likely the same one I observed on October 28th. CBC folks will want to 
keep tabs on this one for their count as it is hanging around.

 

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Re:[nysbirds-l] V. Rails released in Central Park, NYC (11/21 etc.)

[Rick]

I agree, and moreover, with all due respect to ABA rules where's the glory in 
ticking a rail that somebody just let out of a cage? I've seen people act quite 
self-satisfied after blowing away a series of cowering pheasants at a game 
farm. We might want to set our personal birding standards a little bit higher.

Just a thought,
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Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] V. Rails released in Central Park, NYC (11/21 etc.) 

One can't help but wonder whether there are better places than Central Park to 
release a rehabbed marsh species like Virginia Rail. Someplace with a greater 
amount of appropriate habitat, and more importantly on the perimeter of 
Manhattan, providing a better escape route from the island than through the 
canyons of high-rise buildings surrounding Central Park. Someplace like Inwood 
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Re:[nysbirds-l] V. Rails released in Central Park, NYC (11/21 etc.)

[Rick]

I agree, and moreover, with all due respect to ABA rules where's the glory in 
ticking a rail that somebody just let out of a cage? I've seen people act quite 
self-satisfied after blowing away a series of cowering pheasants at a game 
farm. We might want to set our personal birding standards a little bit higher.

Just a thought,
Rick

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To: NYSBIRDS-L-for posts posts  
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Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] V. Rails released in Central Park, NYC (11/21 etc.) 

One can't help but wonder whether there are better places than Central Park to 
release a rehabbed marsh species like Virginia Rail. Someplace with a greater 
amount of appropriate habitat, and more importantly on the perimeter of 
Manhattan, providing a better escape route from the island than through the 
canyons of high-rise buildings surrounding Central Park. Someplace like Inwood 
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the rehab facility mentioned which require them to release all their 
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[nysbirds-l] Cackling Geese

[Rick]

Two continue on Parade grounds south of Prospect Park.

 

40°39'1" N 73°58'13" W

 

https://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/Nature/Cackling-Goose 

 

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[nysbirds-l] Cackling Geese

[Rick]

Two continue on Parade grounds south of Prospect Park.

 

40°39'1" N 73°58'13" W

 

https://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/Nature/Cackling-Goose 

 

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Crake specimen

[Rick]

Thanks for posting, many followers of this saga. 

Rick


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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Crake specimen 

For general information: The specimen is on the way to the AMNH already in the 
custody of authorized museum personnel. 

Apparent road casualty. The specimen condition is good

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Thanks for posting, many followers of this saga. 

Rick


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Apparent road casualty. The specimen condition is good

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[nysbirds-l] Further Warning - Central Park

[Rick]

We were approached by a wandering gang of young adults in Central Park
today, wearing T-shirts.

"Are you watching birds?" one asked, a bit too directly.  

"Yes," I replied, hesitantly.

"Okay, stand up there, and lift your binoculars...We're on a scavenger hunt
and we need a photo of bird watchers."

We had no option but to comply, as he was pointing a cell phone camera
straight at us.

So, if you value your privacy, beware!

Rick

P.S.  What's next?

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Subject: [nysbirds-l] HLSP Warning

Hello, please be careful at Hempstead Lake State Park, Liz DiNapoli and
myself came across a stray brown dog and park police pulled up letting us
know the dog is very aggressive and possibly rabid.  The dog took off with
park police in pursuit, but it was not captured.  This is the north side of
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[nysbirds-l] Further Warning - Central Park

[Rick]

We were approached by a wandering gang of young adults in Central Park
today, wearing T-shirts.

"Are you watching birds?" one asked, a bit too directly.  

"Yes," I replied, hesitantly.

"Okay, stand up there, and lift your binoculars...We're on a scavenger hunt
and we need a photo of bird watchers."

We had no option but to comply, as he was pointing a cell phone camera
straight at us.

So, if you value your privacy, beware!

Rick

P.S.  What's next?

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Subject: [nysbirds-l] HLSP Warning

Hello, please be careful at Hempstead Lake State Park, Liz DiNapoli and
myself came across a stray brown dog and park police pulled up letting us
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Manhattan migrants / lingerers

[Rick]

Am I wrong or are there more migrant warblers hanging around this summer than 
most years? Or is it just more observers afield?

 

Rick Cech

 

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[mailto:bounce-121633781-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Fiore
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:53 PM
To: nysbirds-L@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Manhattan migrants / lingerers

 

Tuesday-Friday, 27-30th June, 2017 -

 

Unusual in New York City for very late June, a singing male Blackpoll Warbler, 
noted by Steve Chang on Monday (6/26) was still present the next day at the 
Riverbank State Park off Riverside Drive in west Harlem, Manhattan, N.Y. City 
(entrances near W. 145th & W. 137th Streets).   It seems rather unlikely this 
would be a southbound bird yet there was a very modest perceived movement of 
some sort, perhaps more local ‘displacement’ of some warbler species that nest 
within 20+ miles of N.Y. City, those found in Central Park in Manhattan on 
Sunday including Worm-eating Warbler, and Louisiana Waterthrush.  Worm-eating 
Warblers have persisted thru the week, including in the Ramble area.  Other 
warbler species also present in Central Park included particular individuals 
which seem to have been lingering, perhaps since early June or even earlier in 
the season.  A Kentucky Warbler had also continued into Tuesday in the Ramble, 
in Central Park, and was near the same area it had been in last weekend. Also 
to Tues. were Northern Parula, Magnolia, Black-and-white & Yellow Warbler[s], & 
American Redstart, as well as Common Yellowthroats in 3 locations, & Ovenbird.  
It’s possible that some of these were around for much of - or even all of - 
June.   

 

At Riverside Park, also in Manhattan, a few warblers have also appeared, most 
notably American Redstart, as well as Yellow, & in one odd location, Common 
Yellowthroat, all of these except for the Yellowthroat in the northern parts of 
that park (n. of W. 96th St.). All of these were present today, and the male 
yellowthroat has been in one area all week. 

 

There were a few N. Rough-winged Swallows in the area of the west Harlem piers, 
& to the north of Riverbank State Park today; regularly seen have been Barn 
Swallows as well as Chimney Swifts, in small numbers.  

 

Many nesting birds have young now; with the occasional rains & warmer weather, 
there have also been a good variety of insect prey items for many of these 
hungry parent birds & their young.

 

-  -  -  -

"Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that 
which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision 
to demand that which is good?”   - Rachel Carson (1907-1964; marine biologist, 
conservationist, author whose books include ‘Silent Spring’.  Sir David 
Attenborough has remarked that that book may have had an effect on science 
second only to Charles Darwin’s “On the Origin of Species”.)

 

 

good -and ethical- birding,

 

Tom Fiore

manhattan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Rick]

Am I wrong or are there more migrant warblers hanging around this summer than 
most years? Or is it just more observers afield?

 

Rick Cech

 

From: bounce-121633781-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121633781-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Fiore
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:53 PM
To: nysbirds-L@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Manhattan migrants / lingerers

 

Tuesday-Friday, 27-30th June, 2017 -

 

Unusual in New York City for very late June, a singing male Blackpoll Warbler, 
noted by Steve Chang on Monday (6/26) was still present the next day at the 
Riverbank State Park off Riverside Drive in west Harlem, Manhattan, N.Y. City 
(entrances near W. 145th & W. 137th Streets).   It seems rather unlikely this 
would be a southbound bird yet there was a very modest perceived movement of 
some sort, perhaps more local ‘displacement’ of some warbler species that nest 
within 20+ miles of N.Y. City, those found in Central Park in Manhattan on 
Sunday including Worm-eating Warbler, and Louisiana Waterthrush.  Worm-eating 
Warblers have persisted thru the week, including in the Ramble area.  Other 
warbler species also present in Central Park included particular individuals 
which seem to have been lingering, perhaps since early June or even earlier in 
the season.  A Kentucky Warbler had also continued into Tuesday in the Ramble, 
in Central Park, and was near the same area it had been in last weekend. Also 
to Tues. were Northern Parula, Magnolia, Black-and-white & Yellow Warbler[s], & 
American Redstart, as well as Common Yellowthroats in 3 locations, & Ovenbird.  
It’s possible that some of these were around for much of - or even all of - 
June.   

 

At Riverside Park, also in Manhattan, a few warblers have also appeared, most 
notably American Redstart, as well as Yellow, & in one odd location, Common 
Yellowthroat, all of these except for the Yellowthroat in the northern parts of 
that park (n. of W. 96th St.). All of these were present today, and the male 
yellowthroat has been in one area all week. 

 

There were a few N. Rough-winged Swallows in the area of the west Harlem piers, 
& to the north of Riverbank State Park today; regularly seen have been Barn 
Swallows as well as Chimney Swifts, in small numbers.  

 

Many nesting birds have young now; with the occasional rains & warmer weather, 
there have also been a good variety of insect prey items for many of these 
hungry parent birds & their young.

 

-  -  -  -

"Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that 
which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision 
to demand that which is good?”   - Rachel Carson (1907-1964; marine biologist, 
conservationist, author whose books include ‘Silent Spring’.  Sir David 
Attenborough has remarked that that book may have had an effect on science 
second only to Charles Darwin’s “On the Origin of Species”.)

 

 

good -and ethical- birding,

 

Tom Fiore

manhattan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Any Swainson's reports?

[Rick]

No, dipped this morning (9-10:30).

 

From: bounce-121565141-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 12:53 PM
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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Any Swainson's reports?

 

I'm assuming that some may have tried for the Swainson's Warbler in Prospect 
Park this morning. Does anyone know of any positive or negative reports since 
it was heard mid-day yesterday?

 

Thanks,

 

James Purcell

Fairfield, CT

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Any Swainson's reports?

[Rick]

No, dipped this morning (9-10:30).

 

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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Any Swainson's reports?

 

I'm assuming that some may have tried for the Swainson's Warbler in Prospect 
Park this morning. Does anyone know of any positive or negative reports since 
it was heard mid-day yesterday?

 

Thanks,

 

James Purcell

Fairfield, CT

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Henslow's Sparrow

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Google map in my posting from last may help.

 

Leave parking lot to the south (to the right when coming into the lot from 
entrance road). Take a small path (not the path to the overlook). Follow this 
nearly to the property edge and follow it around to the left (east).  After a 
bit, there is  smaller trail off the to the left again (north), where there is 
a bench on the right.  You can see the small, grayish blind ahead. That’s where 
the Dickcissel was yesterday; Henslow’s is at a small turn in the path, maybe 
20 yards before  the blind. Also look for the birders.

 

Rick

 

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[mailto:bounce-121564959-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 7:35 AM
To: Carney, Martin <carn...@fordhamprep.org>; NYSbirds-L@Cornell.edu
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Henslow's Sparrow

 

Can someone specify exactly where this blind is?  I am not familiar with the 
area.

Bob Lewis

Sleepy Hollow

 

  _  

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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Henslow's Sparrow

 

Still there, 50 yards before the blind, to the left as you approach blind.  
Dickcissel near blind.

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Henslow's Sparrow

[Rick]

Google map in my posting from last may help.

 

Leave parking lot to the south (to the right when coming into the lot from 
entrance road). Take a small path (not the path to the overlook). Follow this 
nearly to the property edge and follow it around to the left (east).  After a 
bit, there is  smaller trail off the to the left again (north), where there is 
a bench on the right.  You can see the small, grayish blind ahead. That’s where 
the Dickcissel was yesterday; Henslow’s is at a small turn in the path, maybe 
20 yards before  the blind. Also look for the birders.

 

Rick

 

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[mailto:bounce-121564959-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 7:35 AM
To: Carney, Martin ; NYSbirds-L@Cornell.edu
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Henslow's Sparrow

 

Can someone specify exactly where this blind is?  I am not familiar with the 
area.

Bob Lewis

Sleepy Hollow

 

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To: "NYSbirds-L@Cornell.edu <mailto:NYSbirds-L@Cornell.edu> " 
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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Henslow's Sparrow

 

Still there, 50 yards before the blind, to the left as you approach blind.  
Dickcissel near blind.

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Wallkill Zoo

[Rick]

Sorry, wrong url

 

https://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/Nature/Shawangunk-Wonderland/ 

 

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[mailto:bounce-121564688-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:46 PM
To: NYSBIRDS-L <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Wallkill Zoo

 

The experience at Shawangunk Grasslands today was more like a stroll through
zoo exhibits than the usual gritty scramble for target strays.  Both birds
spent most of the morning perched up singing, mainly oblivious to the
(thankfully well-behaved) minions there to watch them. And both stayed
within photo range most of the time, close to the mown paths. They could
have put up interpretative labels by the trailside.

 

Too easy?  No, never too easy.

 

>From the shots below (as many others posted be various observers), it is
clear that the Henslow's puts a great deal of physical energy into its song.
Yet all that comes out is a less-than-operatic "tsi-di-lick." What was good
about this sighting, in my opinion, was its proximity, in which context the
song actually was quite audible (versus the usual distant-wispy). As I
approached I said to my wife, "Well, either that's it or somebody's playing
a tape." One of the birders already present grinned and said, "A lot of
people said the same thing - sounds pretty loud from here!"

 

50 years of birding, always something new to learn.

 

Good luck if you go (and stay to see meadowlarks, Bobolinks, Grasshopper
Sparrows, Purple Martins, etc., etc.). What a treasure of a habitat!

 

Rick Cech

 

https://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/organize/Nature/Shawangunk-Wonderland 

 

P.S. The pale-colored sulphurs flying around in the fields are mainly
spring-form Orange Sulphurs, which are mostly pale yellow, not Clouded
Sulphurs. Didn't see any skippers yet.

 

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Wallkill Zoo

[Rick]

Sorry, wrong url

 

https://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/Nature/Shawangunk-Wonderland/ 

 

From: bounce-121564688-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-121564688-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:46 PM
To: NYSBIRDS-L 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Wallkill Zoo

 

The experience at Shawangunk Grasslands today was more like a stroll through
zoo exhibits than the usual gritty scramble for target strays.  Both birds
spent most of the morning perched up singing, mainly oblivious to the
(thankfully well-behaved) minions there to watch them. And both stayed
within photo range most of the time, close to the mown paths. They could
have put up interpretative labels by the trailside.

 

Too easy?  No, never too easy.

 

>From the shots below (as many others posted be various observers), it is
clear that the Henslow's puts a great deal of physical energy into its song.
Yet all that comes out is a less-than-operatic "tsi-di-lick." What was good
about this sighting, in my opinion, was its proximity, in which context the
song actually was quite audible (versus the usual distant-wispy). As I
approached I said to my wife, "Well, either that's it or somebody's playing
a tape." One of the birders already present grinned and said, "A lot of
people said the same thing - sounds pretty loud from here!"

 

50 years of birding, always something new to learn.

 

Good luck if you go (and stay to see meadowlarks, Bobolinks, Grasshopper
Sparrows, Purple Martins, etc., etc.). What a treasure of a habitat!

 

Rick Cech

 

https://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/organize/Nature/Shawangunk-Wonderland 

 

P.S. The pale-colored sulphurs flying around in the fields are mainly
spring-form Orange Sulphurs, which are mostly pale yellow, not Clouded
Sulphurs. Didn't see any skippers yet.

 

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[nysbirds-l] Wallkill Zoo

[Rick]

The experience at Shawangunk Grasslands today was more like a stroll through
zoo exhibits than the usual gritty scramble for target strays.  Both birds
spent most of the morning perched up singing, mainly oblivious to the
(thankfully well-behaved) minions there to watch them. And both stayed
within photo range most of the time, close to the mown paths. They could
have put up interpretative labels by the trailside.

 

Too easy?  No, never too easy.

 

>From the shots below (as many others posted be various observers), it is
clear that the Henslow's puts a great deal of physical energy into its song.
Yet all that comes out is a less-than-operatic "tsi-di-lick." What was good
about this sighting, in my opinion, was its proximity, in which context the
song actually was quite audible (versus the usual distant-wispy). As I
approached I said to my wife, "Well, either that's it or somebody's playing
a tape." One of the birders already present grinned and said, "A lot of
people said the same thing - sounds pretty loud from here!"

 

50 years of birding, always something new to learn.

 

Good luck if you go (and stay to see meadowlarks, Bobolinks, Grasshopper
Sparrows, Purple Martins, etc., etc.). What a treasure of a habitat!

 

Rick Cech

 

https://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/organize/Nature/Shawangunk-Wonderland 

 

P.S. The pale-colored sulphurs flying around in the fields are mainly
spring-form Orange Sulphurs, which are mostly pale yellow, not Clouded
Sulphurs. Didn't see any skippers yet.

 


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[nysbirds-l] Wallkill Zoo

[Rick]

The experience at Shawangunk Grasslands today was more like a stroll through
zoo exhibits than the usual gritty scramble for target strays.  Both birds
spent most of the morning perched up singing, mainly oblivious to the
(thankfully well-behaved) minions there to watch them. And both stayed
within photo range most of the time, close to the mown paths. They could
have put up interpretative labels by the trailside.

 

Too easy?  No, never too easy.

 

>From the shots below (as many others posted be various observers), it is
clear that the Henslow's puts a great deal of physical energy into its song.
Yet all that comes out is a less-than-operatic "tsi-di-lick." What was good
about this sighting, in my opinion, was its proximity, in which context the
song actually was quite audible (versus the usual distant-wispy). As I
approached I said to my wife, "Well, either that's it or somebody's playing
a tape." One of the birders already present grinned and said, "A lot of
people said the same thing - sounds pretty loud from here!"

 

50 years of birding, always something new to learn.

 

Good luck if you go (and stay to see meadowlarks, Bobolinks, Grasshopper
Sparrows, Purple Martins, etc., etc.). What a treasure of a habitat!

 

Rick Cech

 

https://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/organize/Nature/Shawangunk-Wonderland 

 

P.S. The pale-colored sulphurs flying around in the fields are mainly
spring-form Orange Sulphurs, which are mostly pale yellow, not Clouded
Sulphurs. Didn't see any skippers yet.

 


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RE: [nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: May 26, 2017

[Rick]

1.   I certainly hope the Raven didn’t get mixed up with Pseudomonas 
mendocina, sounds gruesome.

2.   Just cause you never saw a colony of mastodons doesn’t mean there 
weren’t any.

 

:)

 

(Ok, ‘nuff on this.)

 

From: bounce-121563669-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121563669-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Reisfeld
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:27 PM
To: Rick <rc...@nyc.rr.com>
Cc: Jay D <naturephotograp...@gmail.com>; & [NYSBIRDS] 
<nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: May 26, 2017

 

That’s ridiculous.  Mastodons don’t congregate in colonies.  It’s obviously 
pseudomonas mendocina. 

 

Peter

On May 26, 2017, at 7:35 AM, Rick <rc...@nyc.rr.com <mailto:rc...@nyc.rr.com> > 
wrote:

 

Pleistocene Mastodon? 

 

From: bounce-121561409-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
<mailto:bounce-121561409-3714...@list.cornell.edu>  
[mailto:bounce-121561409-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jay D
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:47 AM
To: & [NYSBIRDS] <nysbird...@list.cornell.edu 
<mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu> >
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: May 26, 2017

 

"Raven attacking PM colony"

What does "PM" mean?

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:09 AM, & [NYSBIRDS] digest < 
<mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu> nysbird...@list.cornell.edu> wrote:

NYSBIRDS-L Digest for Friday, May 26, 2017.

1. Swainson's Warbler yes. Prospect Park
2. Raven in Shelter Island
3. Re: Henslow's Sparrow
4. Swainson's Warbler Prospect Park
5. Red necked Phalarope on Staten Island
6. Swainson's Warbler persists in Prospect Park Mid Wood area circa 3PM Thursday
7. Raven attacking PM colony
8. Prospect park Swainson's warbler kings
9. RBA Buffalo Bird Report 25 May 2017
10. eBird.org <http://ebird.org> : Recent Additions to County Checklists
11. Franklin's Gull, shorebirds - Niagara and Orleans Counties

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Subject: Swainson's Warbler yes. Prospect Park
From: Rob Bate < <mailto:robsb...@gmail.com> robsb...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 07:24:48 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

Tom Stephenson reports the Swainson's Warbler is still present in the Midwood 
area of Prospect Park. Same area as yesterday.

Rob Bate
Brooklyn
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Subject: Raven in Shelter Island
From: Orhan Birol < <mailto:orhanbir...@gmail.com> orhanbir...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 10:19:51 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2

Not sure reportable any more but there was a Raven soaring and calling over
my house yesterday evening.
Orhan Birol
Shelter Island

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Subject: Re: Henslow's Sparrow
From: Anders Peltomaa < <mailto:anders.pelto...@gmail.com> 
anders.pelto...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 10:41:53 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

Brilliant photos of the Henslow's Sparrow at Shawangunk posted by Felipe
Pimentel to New York Birders Facebook page.
The photo album is public so it should be viewable on the web, without
Facebook account.

 <https://www.facebook.com/felipe.pimentel1> 
https://www.facebook.com/felipe.pimentel1

good birding,

Anders Peltomaa
Manhattan

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 4:59 PM, syschiff < <mailto:icte...@optonline.net> 
icte...@optonline.net> wrote:

> Henslow's Sparrow update
>
> This species was long a resident on the grass lands of the Saratoga
> Battlefields. The staff found that the birds needed to have the grass
> burned or cut for the habitat to be maintained and for them to continue to
> breed in the area.  So they cut the grass at the proper time of year all
> over. And the sparrows disappeared.  What subsequent research discovered
> was, the Henslow's Sparrows breed in second and third year growth. You
> can't cut the grass every year. You have to rotate your cutting.
>
> Attempts to reintroduce this species anywhere has been mostly a total
> failure. Hence, the sighting of a singing bird in the Shawangunk Grassland
>   is an *extraordinary event.*  They are doing every thing right.  It's a
> great place to visit and it's a paradise for birders looking for grassland
> birds. They have parking, viewing platforms and blinds.
>
> The bird song is unique. They sing loudly from a clump top but are can be
> hard to see. Lets not go playing songs and chasing the bird. Be patient and
> look. This is a new breeding area and we need them to be successful now and
> for the future.
>
> Sy Schiff
>
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RE: [nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: May 26, 2017

[Rick]

1.   I certainly hope the Raven didn’t get mixed up with Pseudomonas 
mendocina, sounds gruesome.

2.   Just cause you never saw a colony of mastodons doesn’t mean there 
weren’t any.

 

:)

 

(Ok, ‘nuff on this.)

 

From: bounce-121563669-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121563669-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Reisfeld
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:27 PM
To: Rick 
Cc: Jay D ; & [NYSBIRDS] 

Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: May 26, 2017

 

That’s ridiculous.  Mastodons don’t congregate in colonies.  It’s obviously 
pseudomonas mendocina. 

 

Peter

On May 26, 2017, at 7:35 AM, Rick mailto:rc...@nyc.rr.com> > 
wrote:

 

Pleistocene Mastodon? 

 

From: bounce-121561409-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
<mailto:bounce-121561409-3714...@list.cornell.edu>  
[mailto:bounce-121561409-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jay D
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:47 AM
To: & [NYSBIRDS] mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu> >
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: May 26, 2017

 

"Raven attacking PM colony"

What does "PM" mean?

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:09 AM, & [NYSBIRDS] digest < 
<mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu> nysbird...@list.cornell.edu> wrote:

NYSBIRDS-L Digest for Friday, May 26, 2017.

1. Swainson's Warbler yes. Prospect Park
2. Raven in Shelter Island
3. Re: Henslow's Sparrow
4. Swainson's Warbler Prospect Park
5. Red necked Phalarope on Staten Island
6. Swainson's Warbler persists in Prospect Park Mid Wood area circa 3PM Thursday
7. Raven attacking PM colony
8. Prospect park Swainson's warbler kings
9. RBA Buffalo Bird Report 25 May 2017
10. eBird.org <http://ebird.org> : Recent Additions to County Checklists
11. Franklin's Gull, shorebirds - Niagara and Orleans Counties

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Subject: Swainson's Warbler yes. Prospect Park
From: Rob Bate < <mailto:robsb...@gmail.com> robsb...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 07:24:48 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

Tom Stephenson reports the Swainson's Warbler is still present in the Midwood 
area of Prospect Park. Same area as yesterday.

Rob Bate
Brooklyn
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Subject: Raven in Shelter Island
From: Orhan Birol < <mailto:orhanbir...@gmail.com> orhanbir...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 10:19:51 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2

Not sure reportable any more but there was a Raven soaring and calling over
my house yesterday evening.
Orhan Birol
Shelter Island

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Subject: Re: Henslow's Sparrow
From: Anders Peltomaa < <mailto:anders.pelto...@gmail.com> 
anders.pelto...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 10:41:53 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

Brilliant photos of the Henslow's Sparrow at Shawangunk posted by Felipe
Pimentel to New York Birders Facebook page.
The photo album is public so it should be viewable on the web, without
Facebook account.

 <https://www.facebook.com/felipe.pimentel1> 
https://www.facebook.com/felipe.pimentel1

good birding,

Anders Peltomaa
Manhattan

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 4:59 PM, syschiff < <mailto:icte...@optonline.net> 
icte...@optonline.net> wrote:

> Henslow's Sparrow update
>
> This species was long a resident on the grass lands of the Saratoga
> Battlefields. The staff found that the birds needed to have the grass
> burned or cut for the habitat to be maintained and for them to continue to
> breed in the area.  So they cut the grass at the proper time of year all
> over. And the sparrows disappeared.  What subsequent research discovered
> was, the Henslow's Sparrows breed in second and third year growth. You
> can't cut the grass every year. You have to rotate your cutting.
>
> Attempts to reintroduce this species anywhere has been mostly a total
> failure. Hence, the sighting of a singing bird in the Shawangunk Grassland
>   is an *extraordinary event.*  They are doing every thing right.  It's a
> great place to visit and it's a paradise for birders looking for grassland
> birds. They have parking, viewing platforms and blinds.
>
> The bird song is unique. They sing loudly from a clump top but are can be
> hard to see. Lets not go playing songs and chasing the bird. Be patient and
> look. This is a new breeding area and we need them to be successful now and
> for the future.
>
> Sy Schiff
>
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RE: [nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: May 26, 2017

[Rick]

Pleistocene Mastodon? 

 

From: bounce-121561409-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121561409-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jay D
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:47 AM
To: & [NYSBIRDS] 
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: May 26, 2017

 

"Raven attacking PM colony"

What does "PM" mean?

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:09 AM, & [NYSBIRDS] digest 
 > wrote:

NYSBIRDS-L Digest for Friday, May 26, 2017.

1. Swainson's Warbler yes. Prospect Park
2. Raven in Shelter Island
3. Re: Henslow's Sparrow
4. Swainson's Warbler Prospect Park
5. Red necked Phalarope on Staten Island
6. Swainson's Warbler persists in Prospect Park Mid Wood area circa 3PM Thursday
7. Raven attacking PM colony
8. Prospect park Swainson's warbler kings
9. RBA Buffalo Bird Report 25 May 2017
10. eBird.org: Recent Additions to County Checklists
11. Franklin's Gull, shorebirds - Niagara and Orleans Counties

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Subject: Swainson's Warbler yes. Prospect Park
From: Rob Bate  >
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 07:24:48 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

Tom Stephenson reports the Swainson's Warbler is still present in the Midwood 
area of Prospect Park. Same area as yesterday.

Rob Bate
Brooklyn
--

Subject: Raven in Shelter Island
From: Orhan Birol  >
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 10:19:51 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2

Not sure reportable any more but there was a Raven soaring and calling over
my house yesterday evening.
Orhan Birol
Shelter Island

--

Subject: Re: Henslow's Sparrow
From: Anders Peltomaa  >
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 10:41:53 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

Brilliant photos of the Henslow's Sparrow at Shawangunk posted by Felipe
Pimentel to New York Birders Facebook page.
The photo album is public so it should be viewable on the web, without
Facebook account.

https://www.facebook.com/felipe.pimentel1

good birding,

Anders Peltomaa
Manhattan

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 4:59 PM, syschiff  > wrote:

> Henslow's Sparrow update
>
> This species was long a resident on the grass lands of the Saratoga
> Battlefields. The staff found that the birds needed to have the grass
> burned or cut for the habitat to be maintained and for them to continue to
> breed in the area.  So they cut the grass at the proper time of year all
> over. And the sparrows disappeared.  What subsequent research discovered
> was, the Henslow's Sparrows breed in second and third year growth. You
> can't cut the grass every year. You have to rotate your cutting.
>
> Attempts to reintroduce this species anywhere has been mostly a total
> failure. Hence, the sighting of a singing bird in the Shawangunk Grassland
>   is an *extraordinary event.*  They are doing every thing right.  It's a
> great place to visit and it's a paradise for birders looking for grassland
> birds. They have parking, viewing platforms and blinds.
>
> The bird song is unique. They sing loudly from a clump top but are can be
> hard to see. Lets not go playing songs and chasing the bird. Be patient and
> look. This is a new breeding area and we need them to be successful now and
> for the future.
>
> Sy Schiff
>
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Subject: Swainson's Warbler Prospect Park
From: Adrian Burke  >
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 20:09:48 +
X-Message-Number: 4

The Swainson's Warbler was seen about 30 minutes ago in same location as
before, foraging in the patch of woods where a large fallen tree lies right
next to a woodchip path. It showed briefly up close, but then vanished and
I haven't seen it again since. Not a lot of people around, except a shady
guy with a bike who did a lit of staring.

Adrian Burke, Manhattan

--

Subject: Red necked Phalarope on Staten Island
From: Anthony Ciancimino  >
Date: 

RE: [nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: May 26, 2017

[Rick]

Pleistocene Mastodon? 

 

From: bounce-121561409-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121561409-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jay D
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:47 AM
To: & [NYSBIRDS] 
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: May 26, 2017

 

"Raven attacking PM colony"

What does "PM" mean?

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:09 AM, & [NYSBIRDS] digest 
mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu> > wrote:

NYSBIRDS-L Digest for Friday, May 26, 2017.

1. Swainson's Warbler yes. Prospect Park
2. Raven in Shelter Island
3. Re: Henslow's Sparrow
4. Swainson's Warbler Prospect Park
5. Red necked Phalarope on Staten Island
6. Swainson's Warbler persists in Prospect Park Mid Wood area circa 3PM Thursday
7. Raven attacking PM colony
8. Prospect park Swainson's warbler kings
9. RBA Buffalo Bird Report 25 May 2017
10. eBird.org: Recent Additions to County Checklists
11. Franklin's Gull, shorebirds - Niagara and Orleans Counties

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Subject: Swainson's Warbler yes. Prospect Park
From: Rob Bate mailto:robsb...@gmail.com> >
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 07:24:48 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

Tom Stephenson reports the Swainson's Warbler is still present in the Midwood 
area of Prospect Park. Same area as yesterday.

Rob Bate
Brooklyn
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Subject: Raven in Shelter Island
From: Orhan Birol mailto:orhanbir...@gmail.com> >
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 10:19:51 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2

Not sure reportable any more but there was a Raven soaring and calling over
my house yesterday evening.
Orhan Birol
Shelter Island

--

Subject: Re: Henslow's Sparrow
From: Anders Peltomaa mailto:anders.pelto...@gmail.com> >
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 10:41:53 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

Brilliant photos of the Henslow's Sparrow at Shawangunk posted by Felipe
Pimentel to New York Birders Facebook page.
The photo album is public so it should be viewable on the web, without
Facebook account.

https://www.facebook.com/felipe.pimentel1

good birding,

Anders Peltomaa
Manhattan

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 4:59 PM, syschiff mailto:icte...@optonline.net> > wrote:

> Henslow's Sparrow update
>
> This species was long a resident on the grass lands of the Saratoga
> Battlefields. The staff found that the birds needed to have the grass
> burned or cut for the habitat to be maintained and for them to continue to
> breed in the area.  So they cut the grass at the proper time of year all
> over. And the sparrows disappeared.  What subsequent research discovered
> was, the Henslow's Sparrows breed in second and third year growth. You
> can't cut the grass every year. You have to rotate your cutting.
>
> Attempts to reintroduce this species anywhere has been mostly a total
> failure. Hence, the sighting of a singing bird in the Shawangunk Grassland
>   is an *extraordinary event.*  They are doing every thing right.  It's a
> great place to visit and it's a paradise for birders looking for grassland
> birds. They have parking, viewing platforms and blinds.
>
> The bird song is unique. They sing loudly from a clump top but are can be
> hard to see. Lets not go playing songs and chasing the bird. Be patient and
> look. This is a new breeding area and we need them to be successful now and
> for the future.
>
> Sy Schiff
>
> --
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Subject: Swainson's Warbler Prospect Park
From: Adrian Burke mailto:aburke...@gmail.com> >
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 20:09:48 +
X-Message-Number: 4

The Swainson's Warbler was seen about 30 minutes ago in same location as
before, foraging in the patch of woods where a large fallen tree lies right
next to a woodchip path. It showed briefly up close, but then vanished and
I haven't seen it again since. Not a lot of people around, except a shady
guy with a bike who did a lit of staring.

Adrian Burke, Manhattan

--

Subject: Red necked Phalarope on Staten Island
From: Anthony Ciancimino mailto:sibirdwatc...@yahoo.com> >
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 16:20:23 -0400
X-Message-Number: 5

Currently have a Red necked Phalarope at the Parallel Pond (pond that parallels 
Sharrott Avenue) at the Cemetery of the Resurrection on the south shore of 

[nysbirds-l] Smr Tanager summit rock CP

[Rick]

At 7:35, a male.


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At 7:35, a male.


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RE: [nysbirds-l] Ravens. BBG

[Rick]

A pair of ravens also was calling loudly overhead on 24th Street, Manhattan,
betw. 8th and 9th, around 5:00.

Rick

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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Ravens. BBG

A pair of ravens flew over the main entrance of the Brooklyn Botanical
Garden  (Eastern Parkway) around 1:30 PM today. Clear views and they were
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[Rick]

A pair of ravens also was calling loudly overhead on 24th Street, Manhattan,
betw. 8th and 9th, around 5:00.

Rick

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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Ravens. BBG

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[nysbirds-l] Black-backed Oriole Update

[Rick]

The oriole was seen today (2/4) intermittently at mid-day, on back-yard
feeder with orange peels. 

 

Rick Cech, Emily Peyton, Fritz Mueller

 

From: bounce-121208517-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-121208517-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Barry E.
Blust
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 2:09 PM
To: 'NYSBIRDS' <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe on CPk Reservoir
probably is a bird released by WBF on Wednesday

 

Larry et al,

I live in southeast PA, about an hour away for the Black-backed Oriole which
I was lucky enough to see yesterday afternoon.  Below are a couple of
postings from the PABirds Listserv that have mentioned the pedigree issue of
the bird.  

The ongoing discussion and reports of the bird can be found here:
http://birding.aba.org/maillist/PA01 

 

Barry E. Blust
21 Rabbit Run Lane
Glenmoore, PA
Upper Uwchlan Township, Chester County
 <mailto:barrybl...@comcast.net> barrybl...@comcast.net 

 

"When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to
everything else in the Universe."

  -- John Muir

 

===


Subject: Black-backed Oriole. Berks county
Date: Fri Feb 3 2017 11:20 am
From: scottweidensaul AT verizon.net


 


  While this is an exciting sighting, I think it's important to realize that
this is a species that shows only limited, mostly altitudinal migratory
behavior in its natural range in Mexico, and like most orioles is routinely
kept there as a cage bird (and thus, perhaps, illegally north of the border
as well). I think PORC is going to have its hands full trying to suss out
the provenance of this bird.

  Scott Weidensaul

  Schuylkill Haven, PA

===

From: Bird discussion list for Pennsylvania <pabi...@list.audubon.org
<mailto:pabi...@list.audubon.org> > on behalf of Geoff Malosh
<pomar...@earthlink.net <mailto:pomar...@earthlink.net> >

Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 3:28 PM

To: pabi...@list.audubon.org <mailto:pabi...@list.audubon.org> 

Subject: Re: [PABIRDS] Black-backed Oriole. Berks county

 

Jerald and all,

 

Along with the difficulties Scott Weidensaul already mentioned about this
species (primarily altitudinal migrant, endemic to central Mexico, not known
to wander widely, commonly kept in captivity at least in Mexico) is the fact
that it's an adult male -- precisely the age/sex one would most expect for
an escaped or released cage bird. If this were a young-of-the-year bird
(probably more likely to "get lost" and while also less likely to have been
shuttled up here illegally) it would be a different story. Of course, if it
was a young bird it would probably be passed off as a Bullock's or a hybrid,
ha ha!

 

The truth is that there is no way to prove that this bird is wild. Unless
it's directly shown somehow to be an escaped captive (which *is* provable in
certain cases), ultimately the provenance of this bird is unknowable. So it
will be up to every individual birder's own subjective judgment and
philosophy to decide whether this bird "counts". The Pennsylvania
Ornithological Records Committee, and indeed the ABA Checklist Committee,
will likewise be forced to make an entirely subjective judgment on the
record according to nothing more than their own personal philosophies and
intuition. That's simply the way it is with birds like this -- there's no
way to know for sure. So my advice would be this: if you would like a chance
to see a free-flying Black-backed Oriole and not have to travel to central
Mexico to do it, then go see this bird and enjoy it, and don't get too
caught up in the unknowable question of whether it "counts". In the end,
everyone's lists are their own.

 

Good birding,

 

Geoff Malosh

Allegheny County

 

(PS - my guess is this bird isn't going to "count". I'll probably go try to
see it at some point anyway.)

 

 

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<mailto:bounce-121208407-77645...@list.cornell.edu>
[mailto:bounce-121208407-77645...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Larry
Trachtenberg
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 12:45 PM
To: Anders Peltomaa
Cc: Ethan Goodman; NYSBIRDS; EBirds NYC
Subject: Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe on CPk Reservoir
probably is a bird released by WBF on Wednesday

 

Tangentially related, and not that I would chase it, but was curious if
there are any thoughts on the pedigree of the Black backed oriole being seen
at a feeder in Berks County PA (near Reading)? If accepted I understand it
would be a first North American ABA record.  

 

L. Trachtenberg

Ossining

 

Beautiful adult red shouldered hawk perched low right at entrance to croton
point park this a.m. 

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[nysbirds-l] Black-backed Oriole Update

[Rick]

The oriole was seen today (2/4) intermittently at mid-day, on back-yard
feeder with orange peels. 

 

Rick Cech, Emily Peyton, Fritz Mueller

 

From: bounce-121208517-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-121208517-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Barry E.
Blust
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 2:09 PM
To: 'NYSBIRDS' 
Subject: RE: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe on CPk Reservoir
probably is a bird released by WBF on Wednesday

 

Larry et al,

I live in southeast PA, about an hour away for the Black-backed Oriole which
I was lucky enough to see yesterday afternoon.  Below are a couple of
postings from the PABirds Listserv that have mentioned the pedigree issue of
the bird.  

The ongoing discussion and reports of the bird can be found here:
http://birding.aba.org/maillist/PA01 

 

Barry E. Blust
21 Rabbit Run Lane
Glenmoore, PA
Upper Uwchlan Township, Chester County
 <mailto:barrybl...@comcast.net> barrybl...@comcast.net 

 

"When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to
everything else in the Universe."

  -- John Muir

 

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Subject: Black-backed Oriole. Berks county
Date: Fri Feb 3 2017 11:20 am
From: scottweidensaul AT verizon.net


 


  While this is an exciting sighting, I think it's important to realize that
this is a species that shows only limited, mostly altitudinal migratory
behavior in its natural range in Mexico, and like most orioles is routinely
kept there as a cage bird (and thus, perhaps, illegally north of the border
as well). I think PORC is going to have its hands full trying to suss out
the provenance of this bird.

  Scott Weidensaul

  Schuylkill Haven, PA

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From: Bird discussion list for Pennsylvania mailto:pabi...@list.audubon.org> > on behalf of Geoff Malosh
mailto:pomar...@earthlink.net> >

Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 3:28 PM

To: pabi...@list.audubon.org <mailto:pabi...@list.audubon.org> 

Subject: Re: [PABIRDS] Black-backed Oriole. Berks county

 

Jerald and all,

 

Along with the difficulties Scott Weidensaul already mentioned about this
species (primarily altitudinal migrant, endemic to central Mexico, not known
to wander widely, commonly kept in captivity at least in Mexico) is the fact
that it's an adult male -- precisely the age/sex one would most expect for
an escaped or released cage bird. If this were a young-of-the-year bird
(probably more likely to "get lost" and while also less likely to have been
shuttled up here illegally) it would be a different story. Of course, if it
was a young bird it would probably be passed off as a Bullock's or a hybrid,
ha ha!

 

The truth is that there is no way to prove that this bird is wild. Unless
it's directly shown somehow to be an escaped captive (which *is* provable in
certain cases), ultimately the provenance of this bird is unknowable. So it
will be up to every individual birder's own subjective judgment and
philosophy to decide whether this bird "counts". The Pennsylvania
Ornithological Records Committee, and indeed the ABA Checklist Committee,
will likewise be forced to make an entirely subjective judgment on the
record according to nothing more than their own personal philosophies and
intuition. That's simply the way it is with birds like this -- there's no
way to know for sure. So my advice would be this: if you would like a chance
to see a free-flying Black-backed Oriole and not have to travel to central
Mexico to do it, then go see this bird and enjoy it, and don't get too
caught up in the unknowable question of whether it "counts". In the end,
everyone's lists are their own.

 

Good birding,

 

Geoff Malosh

Allegheny County

 

(PS - my guess is this bird isn't going to "count". I'll probably go try to
see it at some point anyway.)

 

 

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<mailto:bounce-121208407-77645...@list.cornell.edu>
[mailto:bounce-121208407-77645...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Larry
Trachtenberg
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 12:45 PM
To: Anders Peltomaa
Cc: Ethan Goodman; NYSBIRDS; EBirds NYC
Subject: Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe on CPk Reservoir
probably is a bird released by WBF on Wednesday

 

Tangentially related, and not that I would chase it, but was curious if
there are any thoughts on the pedigree of the Black backed oriole being seen
at a feeder in Berks County PA (near Reading)? If accepted I understand it
would be a first North American ABA record.  

 

L. Trachtenberg

Ossining

 

Beautiful adult red shouldered hawk perched low right at entrance to croton
point park this a.m. 

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[nysbirds-l] Ross's at Robert Moses Causeway turnaround, late am

[Rick]

The Ross's Goose pair was coming and going at the causeway turn-around this
morning. Not there at 10:30, but arrived (w/some Canadas) by about 11:00.
Then (after we left) evidently seen by another observer at lot 5. So some
patience is required.

 

Good luck with them,

Rick Cech / Emily Peyton

 

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[nysbirds-l] Ross's at Robert Moses Causeway turnaround, late am

[Rick]

The Ross's Goose pair was coming and going at the causeway turn-around this
morning. Not there at 10:30, but arrived (w/some Canadas) by about 11:00.
Then (after we left) evidently seen by another observer at lot 5. So some
patience is required.

 

Good luck with them,

Rick Cech / Emily Peyton

 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before !!

[Rick & Linda]

Thanks Arie, Shai & Nancy Jane,
Upon reflection I concur with what you have to say. Although it was still a 
shock to see the bird still twitching as it was being eaten.

I was worried that the squirrel might have rabies and that was the reason for, 
what I thought of, it’s aberrant behavior.
Thanks for the feed back. Pun intended.
rk

> On Dec 9, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Shaibal Mitra <shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu> wrote:
> 
> Benign explanations, such as hunger or calcium deficit, are certainly 
> plausible, but I wouldn't rule out depravity. These little mammals are smart 
> enough that they probably form some sort of conviction of right and 
> wrong--along with the concomitant and irresistible urge to transgress.
> 
> When I lived on the South Side of Chicago in the early 90s, I kept notes on 
> what the squirrels ate. Bagels, pizza, and other high-carb items were 
> visually amusing in their little paws, but not notably deviant. Battered and 
> fried drumsticks from Harold's Chicken Shack took the optics to a new plane, 
> especially when spun as dexterously as a pine cone between furry little 
> fingers. The worst was one deplorable individual whom I discovered dragging a 
> fairly large slab of pork ribs with its mouth. To test whether it really 
> needed the ribs in some pardonable way, or was just too far gone in some 
> moral abyss, I approached the rodent to assess the point at which 
> self-preservation might take over from gluttony. It would not let go! I could 
> have caught it, but what good would that have done? I walked away, Desiderata 
> in my mind's ear. 
> 
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore 
> 
> From: bounce-121071794-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-121071794-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Nancy Jane Kern 
> [kerns...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:21 PM
> To: NYS BIRDS; Rick & Linda
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before 
> !!
> 
> I have seen gray squirrels gnaw on a deer carcass, regularly eat suet, eat on 
> road kill, and chew MacDonald's hamburgers taken out of a dumpster in Albany. 
> Not that often, but some will do it. Maybe it relates to their level of 
> hunger.
> 
> 
> Nancy Kern
> 
> 
> Austerlitz, NY
> 
> Columbia County
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: bounce-121071743-44613...@list.cornell.edu 
> <bounce-121071743-44613...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Rick & Linda 
> <kedenb...@optonline.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:05 PM
> To: NYS BIRDS
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before !!
> 
> I always thought G Squirrels were vegetarians. Here are pictures of a 
> squirrel on my deck eating a DE Junco. I could not believe my eyes but there 
> it is.
> 
> I was working on my laptop this morning and heard a thump on the sliding 
> glass door. Evidently it was a DE Junco that hit the glass. I finished what I 
> was doing and went to see if the bird needed to be put in a box and kept warm 
> until it recovered.
> When I got to the door I saw the squirrel already had the birds head off and 
> was eating the rest.
> 
> I have never seen this before, has anyone else?
> 
> I frequently throw out leftover wet cat food, fat and other table scraps that 
> the Bluejays and Blackbirds enjoy but the squirrels always turn their noses 
> up at that food.
> 
> She ate the whole bird and I spotted her later with only feathers stuck to 
> her head and leg.
> 
> This is a first for me and I don’t know if I like the idea of a carnivorous 
> squirrel.
> 
> [cid:DFE8FBDE-B4B2-4B9F-9531-FCBFB311FC21]
> 
> IMG_9673
> 
> 
> [cid:10AC657C-5218-4F3E-8109-F2AEEABD5C2A]
> IMG_9672
> 
> 
> [cid:272CDC01-2A40-4AEB-9A34-7B02B0BFF996]
> IMG_9671
> 
> 
> [cid:F66C8D08-3E61-48D1-BCE8-4DB14B1A2AA2]
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Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before !!

[Rick & Linda]

Thanks Arie, Shai & Nancy Jane,
Upon reflection I concur with what you have to say. Although it was still a 
shock to see the bird still twitching as it was being eaten.

I was worried that the squirrel might have rabies and that was the reason for, 
what I thought of, it’s aberrant behavior.
Thanks for the feed back. Pun intended.
rk

> On Dec 9, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
> 
> Benign explanations, such as hunger or calcium deficit, are certainly 
> plausible, but I wouldn't rule out depravity. These little mammals are smart 
> enough that they probably form some sort of conviction of right and 
> wrong--along with the concomitant and irresistible urge to transgress.
> 
> When I lived on the South Side of Chicago in the early 90s, I kept notes on 
> what the squirrels ate. Bagels, pizza, and other high-carb items were 
> visually amusing in their little paws, but not notably deviant. Battered and 
> fried drumsticks from Harold's Chicken Shack took the optics to a new plane, 
> especially when spun as dexterously as a pine cone between furry little 
> fingers. The worst was one deplorable individual whom I discovered dragging a 
> fairly large slab of pork ribs with its mouth. To test whether it really 
> needed the ribs in some pardonable way, or was just too far gone in some 
> moral abyss, I approached the rodent to assess the point at which 
> self-preservation might take over from gluttony. It would not let go! I could 
> have caught it, but what good would that have done? I walked away, Desiderata 
> in my mind's ear. 
> 
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore 
> 
> From: bounce-121071794-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-121071794-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Nancy Jane Kern 
> [kerns...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:21 PM
> To: NYS BIRDS; Rick & Linda
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before 
> !!
> 
> I have seen gray squirrels gnaw on a deer carcass, regularly eat suet, eat on 
> road kill, and chew MacDonald's hamburgers taken out of a dumpster in Albany. 
> Not that often, but some will do it. Maybe it relates to their level of 
> hunger.
> 
> 
> Nancy Kern
> 
> 
> Austerlitz, NY
> 
> Columbia County
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: bounce-121071743-44613...@list.cornell.edu 
>  on behalf of Rick & Linda 
> 
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:05 PM
> To: NYS BIRDS
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before !!
> 
> I always thought G Squirrels were vegetarians. Here are pictures of a 
> squirrel on my deck eating a DE Junco. I could not believe my eyes but there 
> it is.
> 
> I was working on my laptop this morning and heard a thump on the sliding 
> glass door. Evidently it was a DE Junco that hit the glass. I finished what I 
> was doing and went to see if the bird needed to be put in a box and kept warm 
> until it recovered.
> When I got to the door I saw the squirrel already had the birds head off and 
> was eating the rest.
> 
> I have never seen this before, has anyone else?
> 
> I frequently throw out leftover wet cat food, fat and other table scraps that 
> the Bluejays and Blackbirds enjoy but the squirrels always turn their noses 
> up at that food.
> 
> She ate the whole bird and I spotted her later with only feathers stuck to 
> her head and leg.
> 
> This is a first for me and I don’t know if I like the idea of a carnivorous 
> squirrel.
> 
> [cid:DFE8FBDE-B4B2-4B9F-9531-FCBFB311FC21]
> 
> IMG_9673
> 
> 
> [cid:10AC657C-5218-4F3E-8109-F2AEEABD5C2A]
> IMG_9672
> 
> 
> [cid:272CDC01-2A40-4AEB-9A34-7B02B0BFF996]
> IMG_9671
> 
> 
> [cid:F66C8D08-3E61-48D1-BCE8-4DB14B1A2AA2]
> IMG_9670
> 
> 
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[nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before !!

[Rick & Linda]

I always thought G Squirrels were vegetarians. Here are pictures of a squirrel 
on my deck eating a DE Junco. I could not believe my eyes but there it is.

I was working on my laptop this morning and heard a thump on the sliding glass 
door. Evidently it was a DE Junco that hit the glass. I finished what I was 
doing and went to see if the bird needed to be put in a box and kept warm until 
it recovered. 
When I got to the door I saw the squirrel already had the birds head off and 
was eating the rest.

I have never seen this before, has anyone else?

I frequently throw out leftover wet cat food, fat and other table scraps that 
the Bluejays and Blackbirds enjoy but the squirrels always turn their noses up 
at that food.

She ate the whole bird and I spotted her later with only feathers stuck to her 
head and leg.

This is a first for me and I don’t know if I like the idea of a carnivorous 
squirrel. 



IMG_9673
 


IMG_9672
 


IMG_9671
 


IMG_9670
 


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[nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before !!

[Rick & Linda]

I always thought G Squirrels were vegetarians. Here are pictures of a squirrel 
on my deck eating a DE Junco. I could not believe my eyes but there it is.

I was working on my laptop this morning and heard a thump on the sliding glass 
door. Evidently it was a DE Junco that hit the glass. I finished what I was 
doing and went to see if the bird needed to be put in a box and kept warm until 
it recovered. 
When I got to the door I saw the squirrel already had the birds head off and 
was eating the rest.

I have never seen this before, has anyone else?

I frequently throw out leftover wet cat food, fat and other table scraps that 
the Bluejays and Blackbirds enjoy but the squirrels always turn their noses up 
at that food.

She ate the whole bird and I spotted her later with only feathers stuck to her 
head and leg.

This is a first for me and I don’t know if I like the idea of a carnivorous 
squirrel. 



IMG_9673
 


IMG_9672
 


IMG_9671
 


IMG_9670
 


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RE: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

[Rick]

I find some granularity in reporting useful in order to keep tuned to the 
cadence of seasonal flux, especially in times of growing weather 
irregularities, even if that means noting odd appearance dates or unexpected 
frequencies of commoner stuff. This requires judgment on the part of reporters, 
however, and as noted can be overdone.

Rick


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 Original message 
From: Paul R Sweet <sw...@amnh.org> 
Date:11/30/2016  4:50 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: NYSBIRDS-L <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu> 
Cc:  
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species 

Daily lists are great and as I mentioned previously E-bird is an excellent 
place to record such data. If everyone posted their Central Park lists to 
NYSBIRDS-L it would certainly dilute the power of the list. See Kevin McGowan's 
 post here https://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/msg20105.html 
regarding the original intent of the list. 


-Original Message-
From: bounce-121044213-11471...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121044213-11471...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Deborah Allen
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 4:28 PM
To: NYSBIRDS-L
Subject: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

With the recent attention on lower Manhattan parks due to the continuing 
Western Tanager and multiple Chats, we thought it might be interesting to take 
a look at the birds that people reported in those same parks in the past. 
Reading many 19th-20th century articles about NYC birds in the Wilson Journal 
of Ornithology, the Auk and elsewhere, is much like reading the NYS list today 
- including the article we place below. Some may find lists and anecdotal 
observations of any era boring - but for us they are a gold mine. We have made 
it one of our endeavors to track and understand how the local avifauna has 
changed through time...and such notes, sightings, reliable reports (including 
Christmas Count lists) are the foundation that allows us to evaluate and write 
about what happened here in the past and to grapple with the why of the 
changes. For example, unless multiple birders took the time to write that 
Bobolinks were common nesters in certain parks in several boroughs of NYC in 
the early 20th century, we would be left thinking that these birds were always 
rare in NYC. Think of the Bobwhite Quail that bred at NYBG (Bronx) and other 
parks into the early 1930s, or the amazing occurrence of a Blue-gray 
Gnatcatcher in Central Park in 1901, or the first nest of the species in New 
York State in 1963. Without these sorts of anecdotal accounts how would we know 
the number of sparrow species that once were common summer residents in NYC 
parks in the 19th Century (Vesper Sparrow anyone)? What seems like dull (or 
amazing) reading today, may be very different to NYC birders in 2050 reading 
bird lists from different parks of the Big Apple in 2016.

Delete is a good key on your computer. Not a big deal...but we'd prefer to see 
people reporting...it keeps a buzz going on a list...and we can keep grappling 
with the facts to better understand, the Why? How? and When? It’s great that 
birders make so many lists. We encourage them to take those data and address 
another important question: what does it mean? Meanwhile we have our articles 
and books to write and field research to do (greetings from Nepal and 
Thailand!). We have an amazing contingent of fellow birders who join us on bird 
walks sometimes seven days per week (during migration) - in Central Park and 
the other parks of NYC. They tell us about what they have found all the time - 
and that makes us smile because they are seeing/doing/learning - and enjoying 
the local environment and its birds.

We hope everyone had a Happy Thanksgiving and wish you all the best for the 
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Ornithology of St. Paul's Church [1903-04]


Even under unpromising conditions, and in unexpected places, there is often 
something for the bird-student to investigate. This is illustrated by some 
surprising records from city parks, and even from the smaller green spots, 
oases in the great desert of brick and mortar.

As such a record I here submit, for whatever it may be worth, the results of 
observations in Saint Paul's Churchyard, New York City, made mostly during 
intervals of a few moments at noon, and occasionally in the morning, and 
covering the migration periods of spring and fall of 1903, and spring of 1904.

Saint Paul's Church property is situated nearly midway between the East and 
North Rivers, fronting east on Broadway, Church Street at the rear, Vesey 
Street on the north side and Fulton Street on the south, and it is thus in one 
of the busiest and noisiest sections of the city.

At the rear of the property, along Church Street, there is the constant rumble 
and roar of the elevated railroad. This church property 

RE: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

[Rick]

I find some granularity in reporting useful in order to keep tuned to the 
cadence of seasonal flux, especially in times of growing weather 
irregularities, even if that means noting odd appearance dates or unexpected 
frequencies of commoner stuff. This requires judgment on the part of reporters, 
however, and as noted can be overdone.

Rick


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 Original message 
From: Paul R Sweet  
Date:11/30/2016  4:50 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: NYSBIRDS-L  
Cc:  
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species 

Daily lists are great and as I mentioned previously E-bird is an excellent 
place to record such data. If everyone posted their Central Park lists to 
NYSBIRDS-L it would certainly dilute the power of the list. See Kevin McGowan's 
 post here https://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/msg20105.html 
regarding the original intent of the list. 


-Original Message-
From: bounce-121044213-11471...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121044213-11471...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Deborah Allen
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 4:28 PM
To: NYSBIRDS-L
Subject: [nysbirds-l] St. Paul's Church, Manhattan 1903-04 - 41 species

With the recent attention on lower Manhattan parks due to the continuing 
Western Tanager and multiple Chats, we thought it might be interesting to take 
a look at the birds that people reported in those same parks in the past. 
Reading many 19th-20th century articles about NYC birds in the Wilson Journal 
of Ornithology, the Auk and elsewhere, is much like reading the NYS list today 
- including the article we place below. Some may find lists and anecdotal 
observations of any era boring - but for us they are a gold mine. We have made 
it one of our endeavors to track and understand how the local avifauna has 
changed through time...and such notes, sightings, reliable reports (including 
Christmas Count lists) are the foundation that allows us to evaluate and write 
about what happened here in the past and to grapple with the why of the 
changes. For example, unless multiple birders took the time to write that 
Bobolinks were common nesters in certain parks in several boroughs of NYC in 
the early 20th century, we would be left thinking that these birds were always 
rare in NYC. Think of the Bobwhite Quail that bred at NYBG (Bronx) and other 
parks into the early 1930s, or the amazing occurrence of a Blue-gray 
Gnatcatcher in Central Park in 1901, or the first nest of the species in New 
York State in 1963. Without these sorts of anecdotal accounts how would we know 
the number of sparrow species that once were common summer residents in NYC 
parks in the 19th Century (Vesper Sparrow anyone)? What seems like dull (or 
amazing) reading today, may be very different to NYC birders in 2050 reading 
bird lists from different parks of the Big Apple in 2016.

Delete is a good key on your computer. Not a big deal...but we'd prefer to see 
people reporting...it keeps a buzz going on a list...and we can keep grappling 
with the facts to better understand, the Why? How? and When? It’s great that 
birders make so many lists. We encourage them to take those data and address 
another important question: what does it mean? Meanwhile we have our articles 
and books to write and field research to do (greetings from Nepal and 
Thailand!). We have an amazing contingent of fellow birders who join us on bird 
walks sometimes seven days per week (during migration) - in Central Park and 
the other parks of NYC. They tell us about what they have found all the time - 
and that makes us smile because they are seeing/doing/learning - and enjoying 
the local environment and its birds.

We hope everyone had a Happy Thanksgiving and wish you all the best for the 
Hanukah/Christmas/Kwanzaa Holidays,

Deborah Allen and Robert DeCandido, PhD

-

Ornithology of St. Paul's Church [1903-04]


Even under unpromising conditions, and in unexpected places, there is often 
something for the bird-student to investigate. This is illustrated by some 
surprising records from city parks, and even from the smaller green spots, 
oases in the great desert of brick and mortar.

As such a record I here submit, for whatever it may be worth, the results of 
observations in Saint Paul's Churchyard, New York City, made mostly during 
intervals of a few moments at noon, and occasionally in the morning, and 
covering the migration periods of spring and fall of 1903, and spring of 1904.

Saint Paul's Church property is situated nearly midway between the East and 
North Rivers, fronting east on Broadway, Church Street at the rear, Vesey 
Street on the north side and Fulton Street on the south, and it is thus in one 
of the busiest and noisiest sections of the city.

At the rear of the property, along Church Street, there is the constant rumble 
and roar of the elevated railroad. This church property is about 332 feet long 
by 177 feet wide, of which area

RE: [nysbirds-l] Western Tanager, Manhattan, NYC 11/24

[Rick]

So many birds at City Hall Park – apart from the Western Tanager, chats, a
pair of BT Blue Warblers, Overbird(s), Common Yellowthroat, sapsuckers, many
juncos, etc., etc.

 

The tanager comes and goes (pretty high up when we were there, sorry for
distant photos; was seen lower-down earlier in am). Was more active earlier
in the morning than when we left just after 11. Was hanging out in the trees
in between City Hall and the Tweed Courthouse.

 

Some record shots (sorry not better):
https://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/Nature/Downtown-NYC-November-2016/ 

 

Good luck if you go, and have a pleasant Thanksgiving,

Rick 

 

From: bounce-121028437-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-121028437-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Fiore
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 12:28 PM
To: nysbirds-l <nysbirds-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Western Tanager, Manhattan, NYC 11/24

 

Thanksgiving-Thursday, 24 November, 2016 -

City Hall Park, lower Manhattan, New York City

 

A Western Tanager was re-found by several of us on-scene by or before 8 a.m.
in the main cross path (runs east-west) between the 2 major buildings within
the park proper - favoring a number of taller trees in the more eastern half
of that path's area, but certainly mobile, feeding-foraging, and calling
quite regularly from sometimes-quite-high branches.  A bit before 8, and the
first sighting by anyone of the day, I very briefly saw the tanager come
down to a modest, non-ornamental fountain (drab colored) which is inside a
fence & nearer the east side of the park, just south of above-noted path -
whether this bird might visit that fountain again, or with any regularity is
still an open question, but of course if it did, viewing would be superb, as
the fountain is not far inside the fence.  Thanks to all of the 12+
observers present to see the tanager in the first 3 hours of day, and I
would add that the first (keen) birder on-scene was not coming up with the
tanager at first-light, so it remains to be seen if a very early try for
this bird is recommended, but it's worth seeking at any hour of a day.
Strongly suggested to familiarize yourself with the calls so as to pick up
on this vocal individual.

 

With the other birders, both of the Yellow-breasted Chats in the vicinity
are still there today, one just at the small traffic-island plantings
immediately south of City Hall Park proper, and the other in Trinity
Church's cemetery, which is a few short blocks down (south) off the west
side of Broadway.  City Hall Park is located south of Chambers Street, to
the east of Broadway - it is also at the foot of the Brooklyn Bridge, & a
few yards from the main pedestrian path to that bridge.  Some other species
seen again this Thursday in City Hall Park include male & female-plumaged
Black-throated Blue Warbler[s], Common Yellowthroat (male), Ovenbird, "Red"
Fox Sparrow, Hermit Thrush, multiple Yellow-bellied Sapsuckers (minimum of
4, perhaps more), & many other species including numerous White-throated
Sparrows and some Dark-eyed Juncos, American Robins, and more migrant or
winter-visitant species (and perhaps other birds of note, yet to be turned
up?)

 

Many NYC Subway lines come to Chambers Street or nearby-station points,
including many express as well as local lines; and in the vicinity, within
15-20 minutes walk, is vastly more habitat, at Battery Park City Park, &
Battery Park itself, as well as numerous smaller pocket parks and plantings,
& of course the NYC Harbor, the lower Hudson & the mouth of the East
river[s], & yet other areas if one were to work a bit north, from Chamber
Street.

 

As Ben Cacace noted here, an amazing find by the one who heard, then saw
this bird in this modest but productive park, Cédric Duhalde - thank you
from many of us!

 

Happy Thanksgiving & good birding to all,

 

Tom Fiore

Manhattan

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Western Tanager, Manhattan, NYC 11/24

[Rick]

So many birds at City Hall Park – apart from the Western Tanager, chats, a
pair of BT Blue Warblers, Overbird(s), Common Yellowthroat, sapsuckers, many
juncos, etc., etc.

 

The tanager comes and goes (pretty high up when we were there, sorry for
distant photos; was seen lower-down earlier in am). Was more active earlier
in the morning than when we left just after 11. Was hanging out in the trees
in between City Hall and the Tweed Courthouse.

 

Some record shots (sorry not better):
https://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/Nature/Downtown-NYC-November-2016/ 

 

Good luck if you go, and have a pleasant Thanksgiving,

Rick 

 

From: bounce-121028437-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-121028437-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Fiore
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 12:28 PM
To: nysbirds-l 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Western Tanager, Manhattan, NYC 11/24

 

Thanksgiving-Thursday, 24 November, 2016 -

City Hall Park, lower Manhattan, New York City

 

A Western Tanager was re-found by several of us on-scene by or before 8 a.m.
in the main cross path (runs east-west) between the 2 major buildings within
the park proper - favoring a number of taller trees in the more eastern half
of that path's area, but certainly mobile, feeding-foraging, and calling
quite regularly from sometimes-quite-high branches.  A bit before 8, and the
first sighting by anyone of the day, I very briefly saw the tanager come
down to a modest, non-ornamental fountain (drab colored) which is inside a
fence & nearer the east side of the park, just south of above-noted path -
whether this bird might visit that fountain again, or with any regularity is
still an open question, but of course if it did, viewing would be superb, as
the fountain is not far inside the fence.  Thanks to all of the 12+
observers present to see the tanager in the first 3 hours of day, and I
would add that the first (keen) birder on-scene was not coming up with the
tanager at first-light, so it remains to be seen if a very early try for
this bird is recommended, but it's worth seeking at any hour of a day.
Strongly suggested to familiarize yourself with the calls so as to pick up
on this vocal individual.

 

With the other birders, both of the Yellow-breasted Chats in the vicinity
are still there today, one just at the small traffic-island plantings
immediately south of City Hall Park proper, and the other in Trinity
Church's cemetery, which is a few short blocks down (south) off the west
side of Broadway.  City Hall Park is located south of Chambers Street, to
the east of Broadway - it is also at the foot of the Brooklyn Bridge, & a
few yards from the main pedestrian path to that bridge.  Some other species
seen again this Thursday in City Hall Park include male & female-plumaged
Black-throated Blue Warbler[s], Common Yellowthroat (male), Ovenbird, "Red"
Fox Sparrow, Hermit Thrush, multiple Yellow-bellied Sapsuckers (minimum of
4, perhaps more), & many other species including numerous White-throated
Sparrows and some Dark-eyed Juncos, American Robins, and more migrant or
winter-visitant species (and perhaps other birds of note, yet to be turned
up?)

 

Many NYC Subway lines come to Chambers Street or nearby-station points,
including many express as well as local lines; and in the vicinity, within
15-20 minutes walk, is vastly more habitat, at Battery Park City Park, &
Battery Park itself, as well as numerous smaller pocket parks and plantings,
& of course the NYC Harbor, the lower Hudson & the mouth of the East
river[s], & yet other areas if one were to work a bit north, from Chamber
Street.

 

As Ben Cacace noted here, an amazing find by the one who heard, then saw
this bird in this modest but productive park, Cédric Duhalde - thank you
from many of us!

 

Happy Thanksgiving & good birding to all,

 

Tom Fiore

Manhattan

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

[Rick]

Not about a sighting:  Phil just sent a useful note off-line. While I did pivot 
off his particular post in my note below, the topic was how internet 
communication complicates what used to be a more universally organic and 
interpersonal pastime than it is today, and that I find this tendency 
concerning. Nothing more.

 

Back to birding.

 

From: bounce-121021815-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121021815-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:20 PM
To: 'Phil Jeffrey' <phil.jeff...@gmail.com>; 'Steve Walter' 
<swalte...@verizon.net>
Cc: '& [NYSBIRDS]' <nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

 

Phil, in law that argument would be described as originalist. I was never a 
Scalia fan and don’t subscribe to originalism. (Prefer evolving traditions.) 
And to your other point I don’t mind the occasional upwelling of 
self-expression, even if it may edge toward wordiness. 

 

That said, e-sites are a replacement for what in the past were local bird club 
trips. I grew up as a birder in a pre-internet era, when these experiences were 
the main feature that drew us into this pastime. Open, democratic, chaotic, 
ineffable. You never knew who’d be in your car. Might be hi-performing peers 
quizzing each other as to a species’ identity by reading snippets from a field 
guide description. Or might be newbies thrilling to the experience to which the 
rest of us had long since become accustomed. We “experienced types” always fed 
off that newbie enthusiasm – all the while engaging in an oral tradition that 
honored new experience while passing along whatever knowledge we had acquired 
to the next spiritual generation (age notwithstanding); this practice was an 
essential feature of what we were  doing, and was a large part of what drew us 
to it. 

 

The internet presents complications. Newcomers may repeatedly inject sightings 
with little community significance, without realizing (or in some cases caring) 
that others might not share their interest. Veterans want the hard facts and 
locations, and become intolerant of those who enthuse to lesser experiences. 

 

What concerns me is that in the impersonal and encapsulated environment of the 
internet the communal escalator of the natural history oral folk tradition will 
be damaged. Socialization is difficult in this medium. Some degree of restraint 
and community attachment is required on all sides.

 

No, I do not personally like repeated postings on juncos, Blue Jays, or 
chickadees. And I would like to let people who make those posts know that 
they’re not all that interesting to the rest of us. I used to do that, in a 
subtle way, while driving along in a car in route to a field trip. Now what? 
Troll someone, or ban them from the site? 

 

I’m sure I don’t have the answer to this. Maybe an off-post note to individuals 
to say, politely, that they might want to step up the game a bit. Where they 
might go, how they could get more involved.

 

Finally, I’ve noticed since the election that some of us are venting more, and 
lacking tolerance to a greater extent; and who knows, maybe that’s me as well. 
We need to be careful of runaway angst and spite. If you’re there, maybe try 
this: http://wpo.st/3r6D2. (It discusses the need to go birding amid the fray.)

 

Oops, I see that this has become more than wordy now. Apologies.

 

That’s my two cents, anyway, & good birding,

Rick

 

 

From: bounce-121021658-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
<mailto:bounce-121021658-3714...@list.cornell.edu>  
[mailto:bounce-121021658-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Phil Jeffrey
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 7:56 PM
To: Steve Walter <swalte...@verizon.net <mailto:swalte...@verizon.net> >
Cc: & [NYSBIRDS] <nysbird...@list.cornell.edu 
<mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu> >
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

 

Steve was wordily referring to daily digest mode, found via

http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

 

Daily digest mode has existed for about as long as list servers have.

 

In the same document tree is the source of at least one part of the identity 
crisis:

http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm

(bear in mind there are syntax errors on the originating page and you may have 
to append ".htm" to some URLs)

 

"The primary purpose of the List is to disseminate information about wild bird 
sightings in and around New York State in a timely manner and to provide an 
effective electronic forum for New York State area birders.

 

Questions and limited discussion on topics such as bird behavior, 
identification, conservation, and distribution, especially as these subjects 
relate to wild birds in and around New York State, are welcomed and encouraged. 
The List is not for the discussion of pet birds."

 

If it's allegedly a

RE: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

[Rick]

Not about a sighting:  Phil just sent a useful note off-line. While I did pivot 
off his particular post in my note below, the topic was how internet 
communication complicates what used to be a more universally organic and 
interpersonal pastime than it is today, and that I find this tendency 
concerning. Nothing more.

 

Back to birding.

 

From: bounce-121021815-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121021815-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:20 PM
To: 'Phil Jeffrey' ; 'Steve Walter' 

Cc: '& [NYSBIRDS]' 
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

 

Phil, in law that argument would be described as originalist. I was never a 
Scalia fan and don’t subscribe to originalism. (Prefer evolving traditions.) 
And to your other point I don’t mind the occasional upwelling of 
self-expression, even if it may edge toward wordiness. 

 

That said, e-sites are a replacement for what in the past were local bird club 
trips. I grew up as a birder in a pre-internet era, when these experiences were 
the main feature that drew us into this pastime. Open, democratic, chaotic, 
ineffable. You never knew who’d be in your car. Might be hi-performing peers 
quizzing each other as to a species’ identity by reading snippets from a field 
guide description. Or might be newbies thrilling to the experience to which the 
rest of us had long since become accustomed. We “experienced types” always fed 
off that newbie enthusiasm – all the while engaging in an oral tradition that 
honored new experience while passing along whatever knowledge we had acquired 
to the next spiritual generation (age notwithstanding); this practice was an 
essential feature of what we were  doing, and was a large part of what drew us 
to it. 

 

The internet presents complications. Newcomers may repeatedly inject sightings 
with little community significance, without realizing (or in some cases caring) 
that others might not share their interest. Veterans want the hard facts and 
locations, and become intolerant of those who enthuse to lesser experiences. 

 

What concerns me is that in the impersonal and encapsulated environment of the 
internet the communal escalator of the natural history oral folk tradition will 
be damaged. Socialization is difficult in this medium. Some degree of restraint 
and community attachment is required on all sides.

 

No, I do not personally like repeated postings on juncos, Blue Jays, or 
chickadees. And I would like to let people who make those posts know that 
they’re not all that interesting to the rest of us. I used to do that, in a 
subtle way, while driving along in a car in route to a field trip. Now what? 
Troll someone, or ban them from the site? 

 

I’m sure I don’t have the answer to this. Maybe an off-post note to individuals 
to say, politely, that they might want to step up the game a bit. Where they 
might go, how they could get more involved.

 

Finally, I’ve noticed since the election that some of us are venting more, and 
lacking tolerance to a greater extent; and who knows, maybe that’s me as well. 
We need to be careful of runaway angst and spite. If you’re there, maybe try 
this: http://wpo.st/3r6D2. (It discusses the need to go birding amid the fray.)

 

Oops, I see that this has become more than wordy now. Apologies.

 

That’s my two cents, anyway, & good birding,

Rick

 

 

From: bounce-121021658-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
<mailto:bounce-121021658-3714...@list.cornell.edu>  
[mailto:bounce-121021658-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Phil Jeffrey
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 7:56 PM
To: Steve Walter mailto:swalte...@verizon.net> >
Cc: & [NYSBIRDS] mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu> >
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

 

Steve was wordily referring to daily digest mode, found via

http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

 

Daily digest mode has existed for about as long as list servers have.

 

In the same document tree is the source of at least one part of the identity 
crisis:

http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm

(bear in mind there are syntax errors on the originating page and you may have 
to append ".htm" to some URLs)

 

"The primary purpose of the List is to disseminate information about wild bird 
sightings in and around New York State in a timely manner and to provide an 
effective electronic forum for New York State area birders.

 

Questions and limited discussion on topics such as bird behavior, 
identification, conservation, and distribution, especially as these subjects 
relate to wild birds in and around New York State, are welcomed and encouraged. 
The List is not for the discussion of pet birds."

 

If it's allegedly an RBA list the description currently does not reflect that, 
and has not done so for quite some time.

 

Phil Jeffrey

Princeton

 

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

[Rick]

Phil, in law that argument would be described as originalist. I was never a 
Scalia fan and don’t subscribe to originalism. (Prefer evolving traditions.) 
And to your other point I don’t mind the occasional upwelling of 
self-expression, even if it may edge toward wordiness. 

 

That said, e-sites are a replacement for what in the past were local bird club 
trips. I grew up as a birder in a pre-internet era, when these experiences were 
the main feature that drew us into this pastime. Open, democratic, chaotic, 
ineffable. You never knew who’d be in your car. Might be hi-performing peers 
quizzing each other as to a species’ identity by reading snippets from a field 
guide description. Or might be newbies thrilling to the experience to which the 
rest of us had long since become accustomed. We “experienced types” always fed 
off that newbie enthusiasm – all the while engaging in an oral tradition that 
honored new experience while passing along whatever knowledge we had acquired 
to the next spiritual generation (age notwithstanding); this practice was an 
essential feature of what we were  doing, and was a large part of what drew us 
to it. 

 

The internet presents complications. Newcomers may repeatedly inject sightings 
with little community significance, without realizing (or in some cases caring) 
that others might not share their interest. Veterans want the hard facts and 
locations, and become intolerant of those who enthuse to lesser experiences. 

 

What concerns me is that in the impersonal and encapsulated environment of the 
internet the communal escalator of the natural history oral folk tradition will 
be damaged. Socialization is difficult in this medium. Some degree of restraint 
and community attachment is required on all sides.

 

No, I do not personally like repeated postings on juncos, Blue Jays, or 
chickadees. And I would like to let people who make those posts know that 
they’re not all that interesting to the rest of us. I used to do that, in a 
subtle way, while driving along in a car in route to a field trip. Now what? 
Troll someone, or ban them from the site? 

 

I’m sure I don’t have the answer to this. Maybe an off-post note to individuals 
to say, politely, that they might want to step up the game a bit. Where they 
might go, how they could get more involved.

 

Finally, I’ve noticed since the election that some of us are venting more, and 
lacking tolerance to a greater extent; and who knows, maybe that’s me as well. 
We need to be careful of runaway angst and spite. If you’re there, maybe try 
this: http://wpo.st/3r6D2. (It discusses the need to go birding amid the fray.)

 

Oops, I see that this has become more than wordy now. Apologies.

 

That’s my two cents, anyway, & good birding,

Rick

 

 

From: bounce-121021658-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121021658-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Phil Jeffrey
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 7:56 PM
To: Steve Walter <swalte...@verizon.net>
Cc: & [NYSBIRDS] <nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

 

Steve was wordily referring to daily digest mode, found via

http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

 

Daily digest mode has existed for about as long as list servers have.

 

In the same document tree is the source of at least one part of the identity 
crisis:

http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm

(bear in mind there are syntax errors on the originating page and you may have 
to append ".htm" to some URLs)

 

"The primary purpose of the List is to disseminate information about wild bird 
sightings in and around New York State in a timely manner and to provide an 
effective electronic forum for New York State area birders.

 

Questions and limited discussion on topics such as bird behavior, 
identification, conservation, and distribution, especially as these subjects 
relate to wild birds in and around New York State, are welcomed and encouraged. 
The List is not for the discussion of pet birds."

 

If it's allegedly an RBA list the description currently does not reflect that, 
and has not done so for quite some time.

 

Phil Jeffrey

Princeton

 

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

[Rick]

Phil, in law that argument would be described as originalist. I was never a 
Scalia fan and don’t subscribe to originalism. (Prefer evolving traditions.) 
And to your other point I don’t mind the occasional upwelling of 
self-expression, even if it may edge toward wordiness. 

 

That said, e-sites are a replacement for what in the past were local bird club 
trips. I grew up as a birder in a pre-internet era, when these experiences were 
the main feature that drew us into this pastime. Open, democratic, chaotic, 
ineffable. You never knew who’d be in your car. Might be hi-performing peers 
quizzing each other as to a species’ identity by reading snippets from a field 
guide description. Or might be newbies thrilling to the experience to which the 
rest of us had long since become accustomed. We “experienced types” always fed 
off that newbie enthusiasm – all the while engaging in an oral tradition that 
honored new experience while passing along whatever knowledge we had acquired 
to the next spiritual generation (age notwithstanding); this practice was an 
essential feature of what we were  doing, and was a large part of what drew us 
to it. 

 

The internet presents complications. Newcomers may repeatedly inject sightings 
with little community significance, without realizing (or in some cases caring) 
that others might not share their interest. Veterans want the hard facts and 
locations, and become intolerant of those who enthuse to lesser experiences. 

 

What concerns me is that in the impersonal and encapsulated environment of the 
internet the communal escalator of the natural history oral folk tradition will 
be damaged. Socialization is difficult in this medium. Some degree of restraint 
and community attachment is required on all sides.

 

No, I do not personally like repeated postings on juncos, Blue Jays, or 
chickadees. And I would like to let people who make those posts know that 
they’re not all that interesting to the rest of us. I used to do that, in a 
subtle way, while driving along in a car in route to a field trip. Now what? 
Troll someone, or ban them from the site? 

 

I’m sure I don’t have the answer to this. Maybe an off-post note to individuals 
to say, politely, that they might want to step up the game a bit. Where they 
might go, how they could get more involved.

 

Finally, I’ve noticed since the election that some of us are venting more, and 
lacking tolerance to a greater extent; and who knows, maybe that’s me as well. 
We need to be careful of runaway angst and spite. If you’re there, maybe try 
this: http://wpo.st/3r6D2. (It discusses the need to go birding amid the fray.)

 

Oops, I see that this has become more than wordy now. Apologies.

 

That’s my two cents, anyway, & good birding,

Rick

 

 

From: bounce-121021658-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
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To: Steve Walter 
Cc: & [NYSBIRDS] 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

 

Steve was wordily referring to daily digest mode, found via

http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

 

Daily digest mode has existed for about as long as list servers have.

 

In the same document tree is the source of at least one part of the identity 
crisis:

http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm

(bear in mind there are syntax errors on the originating page and you may have 
to append ".htm" to some URLs)

 

"The primary purpose of the List is to disseminate information about wild bird 
sightings in and around New York State in a timely manner and to provide an 
effective electronic forum for New York State area birders.

 

Questions and limited discussion on topics such as bird behavior, 
identification, conservation, and distribution, especially as these subjects 
relate to wild birds in and around New York State, are welcomed and encouraged. 
The List is not for the discussion of pet birds."

 

If it's allegedly an RBA list the description currently does not reflect that, 
and has not done so for quite some time.

 

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[nysbirds-l] Clay-colored Sparrow / West End JB

[Rick]

Clay-colored continued today at West End (see map in posting), seemingly 2
individuals. Active in the thickets, but not overly much diversity. 

 

https://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/Nature/2016-10-15-Jones-Beach/ 

 

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[nysbirds-l] Clay-colored Sparrow / West End JB

[Rick]

Clay-colored continued today at West End (see map in posting), seemingly 2
individuals. Active in the thickets, but not overly much diversity. 

 

https://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/Nature/2016-10-15-Jones-Beach/ 

 

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[nysbirds-l] With sadness

[Rick & Linda]

It is with great sadness that I report the passing of Herb Roth.

A great conservationist friend and birding mentor to many has passed. 

Herb Roth worked tirelessly for years to keep the Theodore Roosevelt Sactuary 
in Oyster Bay going until National Audubon took it back. I could go on about 
the many good works he did for our planet and our birds.

Herb, besides being a great birder was a terrific field trip leader. I fell in 
love with my late wife, Linda Vardy, on a weekend field trip Herb led to Cape 
May. 

Queens County Bird Club, North Shore Audubon and anyone who knew him and his 
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[nysbirds-l] With sadness

[Rick & Linda]

It is with great sadness that I report the passing of Herb Roth.

A great conservationist friend and birding mentor to many has passed. 

Herb Roth worked tirelessly for years to keep the Theodore Roosevelt Sactuary 
in Oyster Bay going until National Audubon took it back. I could go on about 
the many good works he did for our planet and our birds.

Herb, besides being a great birder was a terrific field trip leader. I fell in 
love with my late wife, Linda Vardy, on a weekend field trip Herb led to Cape 
May. 

Queens County Bird Club, North Shore Audubon and anyone who knew him and his 
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[nysbirds-l] With sadness

[Rick & Linda]

It is with great sadness that I report the passing of Herb Roth.

A great conservationist friend and birding mentor to many has passed. 

Herb Roth worked tirelessly for years to keep the Theodore Roosevelt Sactuary 
in Oyster Bay going until National Audubon took it back. I could go on about 
the many good works he did for our planet and our birds.

Herb, besides being a great birder was a terrific field trip leader. I fell in 
love with my late wife, Linda Vardy, on a weekend field trip Herb led to Cape 
May. 

Queens County Bird Club, North Shore Audubon and anyone who knew him and his 
dedication to nature will be sadened by this news.

Rick Kedenburg
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[nysbirds-l] With sadness

[Rick & Linda]

It is with great sadness that I report the passing of Herb Roth.

A great conservationist friend and birding mentor to many has passed. 

Herb Roth worked tirelessly for years to keep the Theodore Roosevelt Sactuary 
in Oyster Bay going until National Audubon took it back. I could go on about 
the many good works he did for our planet and our birds.

Herb, besides being a great birder was a terrific field trip leader. I fell in 
love with my late wife, Linda Vardy, on a weekend field trip Herb led to Cape 
May. 

Queens County Bird Club, North Shore Audubon and anyone who knew him and his 
dedication to nature will be sadened by this news.

Rick Kedenburg
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Tree swallows

[Rick & Linda]

I also saw large groups of Tree Swallows passing over Southold NY here on the 
North Fork of LI earlier today.
It must be their last hurrah while heading south.
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> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Eileen Wheeler <eiwhee...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
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> 
> Eileen Wheeler
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Tree swallows

[Rick & Linda]

I also saw large groups of Tree Swallows passing over Southold NY here on the 
North Fork of LI earlier today.
It must be their last hurrah while heading south.
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> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Eileen Wheeler  wrote:
> 
> A cloud of Tree Swallows, must be thousands, observed East of Tobay Beach, 
> near Suffolk county line. At Tobay, Watched them ebb and flow from 1:15 to 
> 1:35. About 150 flew over me heading east to join the crowd. 
> 
> Eileen Wheeler
> Canton, NY
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[nysbirds-l] alley pond park, queens, ny

[Rick & Linda]

Alley pond park
Little alley pond

Blue-winged warbler,

American Redstart.

Yellow warbler

Rufous-sided Towhee

Cat birds in nuptial display.

Also the usual set of bird suspects and many families enjoying the week from 
school and BBQing, diversity of food very impressive. Yum Yum

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[nysbirds-l] alley pond park, queens, ny

[Rick & Linda]

Alley pond park
Little alley pond

Blue-winged warbler,

American Redstart.

Yellow warbler

Rufous-sided Towhee

Cat birds in nuptial display.

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Tern - swan River

[Rick]

The typo-pun opportunities here are too mind-boggling for response. I
believe the correct reference in both instances is to "tern" -- just in case
anyone was confused. :-)

-Original Message-
From: bounce-120410816-3714...@list.cornell.edu
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To: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Tern - swan River

I just observed a species of teen flying south along the swan River toward
the great South Bay. Looked like a common term based on size but can't be
certain. 

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[Rick]

The typo-pun opportunities here are too mind-boggling for response. I
believe the correct reference in both instances is to "tern" -- just in case
anyone was confused. :-)

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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Tern - swan River

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Woodcocks Displaying, Suffolk County

[Rick & Linda]

There were two displaying in Arshamomack Preserve (Chapel Lane) Greenport last 
Monday dusk. Just to the left of the entrance trail.
It was their first display this year. More to follow I hope.

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> On Mar 11, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Mike <mike...@optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> As expected, there were several Woodcocks calling tonight in the Calverton 
> area in Suffolk County.  My FOS
> 
> Mike Cooper
> Ridge, LI, NY
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Alan Drogin <dro...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Have limited access so apologize if someone else already posted.  Just saw a 
>> FOY woodcock hiding in the southeast corner of Bryant Park- in the shadow of 
>> the stone garden shed.  Also others noted Swamp Sparrow had not left a 
>> couple of weeks ago as I had reported.   I found it this afternoon in the 
>> northwest corner.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Woodcocks Displaying, Suffolk County

[Rick & Linda]

There were two displaying in Arshamomack Preserve (Chapel Lane) Greenport last 
Monday dusk. Just to the left of the entrance trail.
It was their first display this year. More to follow I hope.

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> On Mar 11, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Mike  wrote:
> 
> As expected, there were several Woodcocks calling tonight in the Calverton 
> area in Suffolk County.  My FOS
> 
> Mike Cooper
> Ridge, LI, NY
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows Corona Park

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Hi, those Luddites among us who don’t use Facebook can’t access this posting 
(at least I can’t). Any chance of a posting to a publicly accessible site?

 

Thanks,

Rick

 

From: ebirds...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Corey Finger 1birdsblog...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc]
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 5:02 PM
To: New York ; Nyc ebirds 
Subject: [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows 
Corona Park

 

  

The Clay-colored Sparrow found by Cesar Castillo during the Queens County CBC 
yesterday might actually be a Brewer's Sparrow.

 

When I got home from seeing the bird this morning I posted an image on 
Facebook. This afternoon, a very short time ago, I got texts from Tom Johnson 
and Doug Gochfeld asking for more photos as they think it's a possible Brewer's 
Sparrow. I've since added more photos to the original image on Facebook. Photos 
can be seen on the New York Birders Facebook page here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/NYBirders/

 

In the field the bird did seem a bit pale but I never would have thought to 
check if it was a Brewer's Sparrow or not. I chalked the paleness up to my 
rarely seeing Clay-colored Sparrows and not being as familiar with them as I 
could be.

 

For those who want to go after this bird, the pin on this map is the location 
of the "Meditation Garden," a pine grove that serves as ground zero for the 
junco flock with which this sparrow, the Lark Sparrow, and the Pine Warblers 
travel, though the flock does range widely:


https://www.google.com/maps/dir//40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3
 
<https://www.google.com/maps/dir/40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3>
 

 

Easiest car access is from College Point Blvd and closest legal parking is 
under the Van Wyck, a bit north of where you enter from College Point Blvd.

 

Hopefully, this is a Brewer's Sparrow.

 

Good Birding,

Corey Finger

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RE:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows Corona Park

[Rick]

Hi, those Luddites among us who don’t use Facebook can’t access this posting 
(at least I can’t). Any chance of a posting to a publicly accessible site?

 

Thanks,

Rick

 

From: ebirds...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Corey Finger 1birdsblog...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc]
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 5:02 PM
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Subject: [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows 
Corona Park

 

  

The Clay-colored Sparrow found by Cesar Castillo during the Queens County CBC 
yesterday might actually be a Brewer's Sparrow.

 

When I got home from seeing the bird this morning I posted an image on 
Facebook. This afternoon, a very short time ago, I got texts from Tom Johnson 
and Doug Gochfeld asking for more photos as they think it's a possible Brewer's 
Sparrow. I've since added more photos to the original image on Facebook. Photos 
can be seen on the New York Birders Facebook page here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/NYBirders/

 

In the field the bird did seem a bit pale but I never would have thought to 
check if it was a Brewer's Sparrow or not. I chalked the paleness up to my 
rarely seeing Clay-colored Sparrows and not being as familiar with them as I 
could be.

 

For those who want to go after this bird, the pin on this map is the location 
of the "Meditation Garden," a pine grove that serves as ground zero for the 
junco flock with which this sparrow, the Lark Sparrow, and the Pine Warblers 
travel, though the flock does range widely:


https://www.google.com/maps/dir//40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3
 
<https://www.google.com/maps/dir/40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3>
 

 

Easiest car access is from College Point Blvd and closest legal parking is 
under the Van Wyck, a bit north of where you enter from College Point Blvd.

 

Hopefully, this is a Brewer's Sparrow.

 

Good Birding,

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Painted Bunting

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Yippee


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To: "NYSBIRDS-L@cornell edu"  
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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Painted Bunting 

The Prospect Park Painted Bunting has made it to Brooklyn's CBC count period. 
It is currently in one of its favored locations at the extreme northeast corner 
of the appropriate habitat at the LeFrak center green roof.

Good CBCing!
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The Prospect Park Painted Bunting has made it to Brooklyn's CBC count period. 
It is currently in one of its favored locations at the extreme northeast corner 
of the appropriate habitat at the LeFrak center green roof.

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[nysbirds-l] String fencing to protect beach nesting sparks death threat from angry resident - SoutholdLOCAL

[Rick & Linda]

I am sorry to post a non sighting but to those on this list interested in 
conservation efforts the following link is  a current  story about Piping 
Plover Restoration on the North Fork. 
The people involved in the destruction of PPL nests makes me ashamed of some of 
our North Fork citizens. Thank heavens there are good people that are willing 
to stand up for what is right.


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I am sorry to post a non sighting but to those on this list interested in 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Red Phalarope still present this morning as of about 10 am

[Rick]

Yes, last weekend in dunes, somewhat near dried ponds.

Rick Cech


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Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Red Phalarope still present this morning as of about 
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That is really interesting.  Has anyone encountered any Fowlers Toads in the 
park this year?




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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Red Phalarope still present this morning as of about 10 am

A novel find on my way between the WE Nature Center and the blind, was an 
Eastern Hog-nosed Snake (rangers in NC helped me ID it). My first Jones Beach 
snake. Unfortunately, it took off too fast for a portrait.

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[nysbirds-l] Jones Beach Red Phalarope YES midday Sunday

[Rick]

The phalarope was on the “blind pond” around 9:30-10:00, then flew to the large 
pond-mudflat just west of that and stayed there feeding until at least 11:00, 
probably later.

 

Rick Cech / Emily Peyton

 

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(SkyOfBirds)
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 4:23 PM
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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Jones Beach Red Phalarope (Yes, last evening)

 

I observed the Red Phalarope last night around 7:15 PM. The bird was first 
found in the pool with the wood blind, and then flew from pond to pond heading 
East until around 8:00.


 

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[nysbirds-l] Jones Beach Red Phalarope YES midday Sunday

[Rick]

The phalarope was on the “blind pond” around 9:30-10:00, then flew to the large 
pond-mudflat just west of that and stayed there feeding until at least 11:00, 
probably later.

 

Rick Cech / Emily Peyton

 

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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Jones Beach Red Phalarope (Yes, last evening)

 

I observed the Red Phalarope last night around 7:15 PM. The bird was first 
found in the pool with the wood blind, and then flew from pond to pond heading 
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[nysbirds-l] RT HUMMINGBIRD (male)

[Rick & Linda]

The arrival of our nesting RT Hummingbirds has begun here in Peconic NY .

I thought I spied him skulking about the area yesterday so I put out one 
Hummingbird feeder yesterday morning. He survived the 40 f. temperature last 
night most likely by going into torpor. Maybe he got in a visit to partake of 
the feeder yesterday. I believe he is one of our breeders as yesterday he was 
chasing a T Titmouse from tree to tree as if he were claiming territory

Officially here at 2:30 PM in the sunlight with a blazing red throat. Hoping 
for a photo later.

I think I will play #9, "Ode to Joy”
rk
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[nysbirds-l] RT HUMMINGBIRD (male)

[Rick Linda]

The arrival of our nesting RT Hummingbirds has begun here in Peconic NY .

I thought I spied him skulking about the area yesterday so I put out one 
Hummingbird feeder yesterday morning. He survived the 40 f. temperature last 
night most likely by going into torpor. Maybe he got in a visit to partake of 
the feeder yesterday. I believe he is one of our breeders as yesterday he was 
chasing a T Titmouse from tree to tree as if he were claiming territory

Officially here at 2:30 PM in the sunlight with a blazing red throat. Hoping 
for a photo later.

I think I will play #9, Ode to Joy”
rk
. 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

[Rick]

True, and don’t forget the somewhat similar overwinter survival of the Rufous 
Hummingbird outside the American Museum of Natural History a few years back; 
the last posting I’m aware of for that bird was 3/11/2012. 

 

2011-12 was a mild winter, admittedly, but hummers are hardly a model of cold 
tolerance (they lack down feathers, lose heat rapidly, and need to go into 
torpor overnight even in comparatively mild conditions to conserve energy). 

 

In any case, don’t sell birds short, provided they have adequate good-quality 
food. (The question in my mind, aside from availability of small fruits and 
such, is whether or not they are an adequate substitute for higher-quality 
insect protein in severe cold, versus in milder traditional overwintering 
sites.)

 

Rick

 

From: bounce-118683374-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-118683374-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Hugh McGuinness
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:18 AM
To: Orhan Birol
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

 

My memory of Tyrannus biology is that all members of the genus become mostly or 
partly frugivorous during winter, and simply supplement their diet with insects 
when available. So, their survival in NYC may depend more on the availability 
of small fruits, for which they are competing with the many Robins and 
Starlings, than on the availability of insects.

Hugh

 

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Orhan Birol  wrote:

On Sunday I observed both.

The Cassins was flycatching nonstop for the 10 minutes I was there.

I think the row of low evergreens(boxwood?) on the west side of the community 
gardens and plenty of shelter in the gardens, may protect it from the cold.

The Couches also has enough shelter in enclosed gardens, structures etc. The 10 
minutes I was there, it called nonstop but never fed.

I have no idea if the insects both feed on will survive tonight. 

Any thoughts?

Orhan Birol

Shelter Island

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

[Rick]

True, and don’t forget the somewhat similar overwinter survival of the Rufous 
Hummingbird outside the American Museum of Natural History a few years back; 
the last posting I’m aware of for that bird was 3/11/2012. 

 

2011-12 was a mild winter, admittedly, but hummers are hardly a model of cold 
tolerance (they lack down feathers, lose heat rapidly, and need to go into 
torpor overnight even in comparatively mild conditions to conserve energy). 

 

In any case, don’t sell birds short, provided they have adequate good-quality 
food. (The question in my mind, aside from availability of small fruits and 
such, is whether or not they are an adequate substitute for higher-quality 
insect protein in severe cold, versus in milder traditional overwintering 
sites.)

 

Rick

 

From: bounce-118683374-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-118683374-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Hugh McGuinness
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:18 AM
To: Orhan Birol
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances?

 

My memory of Tyrannus biology is that all members of the genus become mostly or 
partly frugivorous during winter, and simply supplement their diet with insects 
when available. So, their survival in NYC may depend more on the availability 
of small fruits, for which they are competing with the many Robins and 
Starlings, than on the availability of insects.

Hugh

 

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Orhan Birol orhanbir...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday I observed both.

The Cassins was flycatching nonstop for the 10 minutes I was there.

I think the row of low evergreens(boxwood?) on the west side of the community 
gardens and plenty of shelter in the gardens, may protect it from the cold.

The Couches also has enough shelter in enclosed gardens, structures etc. The 10 
minutes I was there, it called nonstop but never fed.

I have no idea if the insects both feed on will survive tonight. 

Any thoughts?

Orhan Birol

Shelter Island

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassin's Kingbird-YES

[Rick]

Now at picnic area.


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From: Rick  
Date:01/01/2015  11:36 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Rob Jett , NYSBirds  
Cc:  
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassin's Kingbird-YES 

Cassin ' at north end of communication gardens now. Perched low.

Rick Cech and Emily Peyton


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Date:12/31/2014 8:23 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: NYSBirds  
Cc: 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Cassin's Kingbird-YES 

On this last day of 2014 I got word that Ken Gale, Ethan Goodman and Anne 
Lazarus spotted the Cassin's Kingbird at the community garden at Floyd Bennett 
Field.

Guess I'll see you out there tomorrow then the West Village.

Happy New Year & good birding!

Rob

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassin's Kingbird-YES

[Rick]

Cassin ' at north end of communication gardens now. Perched low.

Rick Cech and Emily Peyton


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From: Rob Jett  
Date:12/31/2014  8:23 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: NYSBirds  
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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Cassin's Kingbird-YES 

On this last day of 2014 I got word that Ken Gale, Ethan Goodman and Anne 
Lazarus spotted the Cassin's Kingbird at the community garden at Floyd Bennett 
Field.

Guess I'll see you out there tomorrow then the West Village.

Happy New Year & good birding!

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Cassin's Kingbird-YES

[Rick]

Cassin ' at north end of communication gardens now. Perched low.

Rick Cech and Emily Peyton


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Date:12/31/2014  8:23 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: NYSBirds NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu 
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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Cassin's Kingbird-YES 

On this last day of 2014 I got word that Ken Gale, Ethan Goodman and Anne 
Lazarus spotted the Cassin's Kingbird at the community garden at Floyd Bennett 
Field.

Guess I'll see you out there tomorrow then the West Village.

Happy New Year  good birding!

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owl problem

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

Dear Mr. Lazaro,
What you describe has been an ongoing problem for as long as I can  
remember.


The blatant type of harassment you describe is against the law as  
useless expenditure of energy threatens the owls very lives.


If you see this again call for a DEC Wildlife Enforcement Officer.  
People should carry thees #'s with their cell phones.


Region 1 (Long Island) Law enforcement # is 631-444-0250

On weekends statewide call the 24/7 Dispatch # 877-457-5680

Although the officer may not get there in time just telling the folks  
involved in the harassment that a DEC cop is on the way could solve  
the problem.


Thank you for posting this.
Rick K. NYS-DEC WRL

On Dec 21, 2014, at 9:50 PM, John Lazaro wrote:



Today my girlfriend and I had the pleasure of seeing a beautiful  
snowy owl at Jones Beach next to the jetty. As we approached the  
jetty we saw the bird fly in and settle close to a pair of  
photographers.


As we watched the photographers approach the bird, they caused it  
to fly further down the beach. I thought it was unfortunate that  
the bird was disturbed like that and was incredulous as I watched  
the photographers walk down the beach to where the bird had landed  
and flushed it again.


Upon speaking with some other birders at the jetty we discovered  
that these same photographers had been there for two hours chasing  
this poor bird up and down the beach.


I have seen this behavior before in Maine. The attitude that these  
birds exist only for us to take photos of them. The light wasn't  
great today and one of the photographers was using a flash to try  
and light the birds beautiful eyes.


I'm appealing to all of my fellow birders to help discourage this  
kind of behavior. These birds have value as individuals and deserve  
a rest after their long journey. They are exhausted and just need  
some nice prey and a safe place to rest.


I'm hoping that the photographers I saw today are reading this post  
and will refrain from treating other wild animals in this manner.


Happy birding and Happy Holidays to you all.
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[nysbirds-l] E Bluebirds - Alley Pond Park, Queens

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

11-30-14 , 12 noon.
Good views of three E Bluebirds behind the green metal storage sheds  
that hold the equipment for the Challenge course.

(2 mature males & one Juv.)

To the east of the handball courts & north of the soccer field there  
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Also seen 2 Catbirds and 1 Golden-crowned Kinglet, Sharp-shined & Red- 
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11-30-14 , 12 noon.
Good views of three E Bluebirds behind the green metal storage sheds  
that hold the equipment for the Challenge course.

(2 mature males  one Juv.)

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[nysbirds-l] Edgemere Park

[Rick]

A few decent birds this afternoon at Edgemere Park, observed by Rick Cech,
Emily Peyton, Karlo Mirth.

 

Sparrows: Many Savannah, Swamp, White-throated and Song; 2 Field; 2+ juv.
White-crowned; 1 Vesper, 1 possible Ammodramus. 

Raptors: Quite a few Northern Harriers, Red-taileds, Peregrine, Kestrel,
Sharpie.

Misc: Good Phoebe movement, numerous kinglets (both species) and juncos,
numerous Palm Warblers, one bright Nashville Warbler, lots of Yellow-rumps;
no siskins

 

A high percentage of the birds seen (in all groups) were immatures.

 

Pretty day,

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[nysbirds-l] APP., Queens

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Oct 5, 2014, 9AM - 12PM. Alley Pond Park - Sunny, breezy, 51 degrees F.
After yesterday's rain a cold front with north winds brought many  
migrant birds to Alley Pond Park, Queens.

Large numbers of N Flicker seen in many locations. Particularly 14 on  
the ball field next to the handball courts.

RC Kinglet, Blue-headed Vireo, Red-eyed Vireo, N Parula, Black- 
throated Blue Warbler (pair), Yellow-rumped(many), Tennessee, Black- 
pole, Chestnut-sided, Palm (many), Common Yellowthroat, Redstart.  
Most of the warblers were seen between Little Alley Pond and the Park  
House. Also the kettle hole dips birds on Hercules Club.

Song Sparrow
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[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

Oct 5, 2014, 9AM - 12PM. Alley Pond Park - Sunny, breezy, 51 degrees F.
After yesterday's rain a cold front with north winds brought many  
migrant birds to Alley Pond Park, Queens.

Large numbers of N Flicker seen in many locations. Particularly 14 on  
the ball field next to the handball courts.

RC Kinglet, Blue-headed Vireo, Red-eyed Vireo, N Parula, Black- 
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Most of the warblers were seen between Little Alley Pond and the Park  
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

[Rick]

The senior adult I photographed on May 31, 2009, had 13 rattle segments.
Yours may have been 'progeny.' Or, the elder rattles had broken off.

 

http://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/Doodletown-Rattler/

 

 

From: bounce-115944009-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-115944009-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Claudia
Peretti
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:07 PM
To: 'Rick'; 'Robert Lewis'; 'NYSBirds'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

Unfortunately, in the case of the rattlesnake seen by the EA Mearns and
Linnaean Society, the snake had little, if any, rattle.  Claudia Perretti  

 

From: bounce-115943024-3954...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-115943024-3954...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 7:50 PM
To: 'Claudia Peretti'; 'Robert Lewis'; 'NYSBirds'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

These rattlesnakes (probably the same pair) have been at that site for many
years, plus their progeny. They are venerable citizens of the property.

 

Just one request, be careful when walking in the area, but please LEAVE THEM
ALONE.

 

Thanks,

Rick Cech

 

P.S. One time a few years back a female birder was squatting for a moment
off the trail and found herself right on top of one of the snakes (no
problem experienced, other than the shock).

 

I was photographing one of the pair a few years back and was surprised that
when I heard the rattle I didn't see it in my viewfinder. That's because the
other member of the senior pair was about 5' off my left foot, perhaps
displeased he/she wasn't included in the photo. (Again, no ill effects.)

 

From: bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Claudia
Peretti
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:01 AM
To: 'Robert Lewis'; 'NYSBirds'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

Re: Doodletown:  A yard-long Timber Rattlesnake was seen by both the AE
Mearns Bird Club and the Linnaean Society of NYC on Saturday in late
morning.  It was on the edge of the walking path to Herbert Cemetery. We
also saw 19 species of warblers, Kentucky was a good one and a total of 71
species at Doodletown and Iona Island.  Good Birding!  Claudia Perretti

 

From: bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:30 PM
To: NYSBirds
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

 

Doodletown Road is a famous birding spot in northern Rockland County.

 

I was there around 5:00 pm and ran into a rattlesnake just along the main
path.  I and two other people heard its "rattle", which was more like a
buzz.  This was about 75% of the way up to the top, just past the sign for
"Gray House."

 

I took a video, which I may be able to upload soon.  

 

Beware.  

 

Bob Lewis

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

[Rick]

Don't pet them indeed. That's how most people get bitten, esp. after some
imbibing:

 

Approximately 40 percent of all snakebites occur in people who are handling
or playing with snakes, and 40 percent of all people bitten had a blood
alcohol level of greater than 0.1 percent. Sixty-five percent of snakebites
occur on the hand or fingers, 24 percent on the foot or ankle, and 11
percent elsewhere. One case was reported of a snakebite on the glans penis.


Read more:
<http://www.gorp.com/weekend-guide/travel-ta-snake-bite-faq-sidwcmdev_053475
.html#ixzz32s2uANB1>
http://www.gorp.com/weekend-guide/travel-ta-snake-bite-faq-sidwcmdev_053475.
html#ixzz32s2uANB1

 

 

From: Steve Walter [mailto:swalte...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 7:54 PM
To: 'Rick'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

So like don't pet them.

 

From: bounce-115943024-8873...@list.cornell.edu
<mailto:bounce-115943024-8873...@list.cornell.edu>
[mailto:bounce-115943024-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 7:50 PM
To: 'Claudia Peretti'; 'Robert Lewis'; 'NYSBirds'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

These rattlesnakes (probably the same pair) have been at that site for many
years, plus their progeny. They are venerable citizens of the property.

 

Just one request, be careful when walking in the area, but please LEAVE THEM
ALONE.

 

Thanks,

Rick Cech

 

P.S. One time a few years back a female birder was squatting for a moment
off the trail and found herself right on top of one of the snakes (no
problem experienced, other than the shock).

 

I was photographing one of the pair a few years back and was surprised that
when I heard the rattle I didn't see it in my viewfinder. That's because the
other member of the senior pair was about 5' off my left foot, perhaps
displeased he/she wasn't included in the photo. (Again, no ill effects.)

 

From: bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu
<mailto:bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu>
[mailto:bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Claudia
Peretti
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:01 AM
To: 'Robert Lewis'; 'NYSBirds'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

Re: Doodletown:  A yard-long Timber Rattlesnake was seen by both the AE
Mearns Bird Club and the Linnaean Society of NYC on Saturday in late
morning.  It was on the edge of the walking path to Herbert Cemetery. We
also saw 19 species of warblers, Kentucky was a good one and a total of 71
species at Doodletown and Iona Island.  Good Birding!  Claudia Perretti

 

From: bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu
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[mailto:bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:30 PM
To: NYSBirds
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

 

Doodletown Road is a famous birding spot in northern Rockland County.

 

I was there around 5:00 pm and ran into a rattlesnake just along the main
path.  I and two other people heard its "rattle", which was more like a
buzz.  This was about 75% of the way up to the top, just past the sign for
"Gray House."

 

I took a video, which I may be able to upload soon.  

 

Beware.  

 

Bob Lewis

Sleepy Hollow NY

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

[Rick]

These rattlesnakes (probably the same pair) have been at that site for many
years, plus their progeny. They are venerable citizens of the property.

 

Just one request, be careful when walking in the area, but please LEAVE THEM
ALONE.

 

Thanks,

Rick Cech

 

P.S. One time a few years back a female birder was squatting for a moment
off the trail and found herself right on top of one of the snakes (no
problem experienced, other than the shock).

 

I was photographing one of the pair a few years back and was surprised that
when I heard the rattle I didn't see it in my viewfinder. That's because the
other member of the senior pair was about 5' off my left foot, perhaps
displeased he/she wasn't included in the photo. (Again, no ill effects.)

 

From: bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Claudia
Peretti
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:01 AM
To: 'Robert Lewis'; 'NYSBirds'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

Re: Doodletown:  A yard-long Timber Rattlesnake was seen by both the AE
Mearns Bird Club and the Linnaean Society of NYC on Saturday in late
morning.  It was on the edge of the walking path to Herbert Cemetery. We
also saw 19 species of warblers, Kentucky was a good one and a total of 71
species at Doodletown and Iona Island.  Good Birding!  Claudia Perretti

 

From: bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu
<mailto:bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu>
[mailto:bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:30 PM
To: NYSBirds
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

 

Doodletown Road is a famous birding spot in northern Rockland County.

 

I was there around 5:00 pm and ran into a rattlesnake just along the main
path.  I and two other people heard its "rattle", which was more like a
buzz.  This was about 75% of the way up to the top, just past the sign for
"Gray House."

 

I took a video, which I may be able to upload soon.  

 

Beware.  

 

Bob Lewis

Sleepy Hollow NY

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

[Rick]

These rattlesnakes (probably the same pair) have been at that site for many
years, plus their progeny. They are venerable citizens of the property.

 

Just one request, be careful when walking in the area, but please LEAVE THEM
ALONE.

 

Thanks,

Rick Cech

 

P.S. One time a few years back a female birder was squatting for a moment
off the trail and found herself right on top of one of the snakes (no
problem experienced, other than the shock).

 

I was photographing one of the pair a few years back and was surprised that
when I heard the rattle I didn't see it in my viewfinder. That's because the
other member of the senior pair was about 5' off my left foot, perhaps
displeased he/she wasn't included in the photo. (Again, no ill effects.)

 

From: bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Claudia
Peretti
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:01 AM
To: 'Robert Lewis'; 'NYSBirds'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

Re: Doodletown:  A yard-long Timber Rattlesnake was seen by both the AE
Mearns Bird Club and the Linnaean Society of NYC on Saturday in late
morning.  It was on the edge of the walking path to Herbert Cemetery. We
also saw 19 species of warblers, Kentucky was a good one and a total of 71
species at Doodletown and Iona Island.  Good Birding!  Claudia Perretti

 

From: bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu
mailto:bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:30 PM
To: NYSBirds
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

 

Doodletown Road is a famous birding spot in northern Rockland County.

 

I was there around 5:00 pm and ran into a rattlesnake just along the main
path.  I and two other people heard its rattle, which was more like a
buzz.  This was about 75% of the way up to the top, just past the sign for
Gray House.

 

I took a video, which I may be able to upload soon.  

 

Beware.  

 

Bob Lewis

Sleepy Hollow NY

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

[Rick]

Don't pet them indeed. That's how most people get bitten, esp. after some
imbibing:

 

Approximately 40 percent of all snakebites occur in people who are handling
or playing with snakes, and 40 percent of all people bitten had a blood
alcohol level of greater than 0.1 percent. Sixty-five percent of snakebites
occur on the hand or fingers, 24 percent on the foot or ankle, and 11
percent elsewhere. One case was reported of a snakebite on the glans penis.


Read more:
http://www.gorp.com/weekend-guide/travel-ta-snake-bite-faq-sidwcmdev_053475
.html#ixzz32s2uANB1
http://www.gorp.com/weekend-guide/travel-ta-snake-bite-faq-sidwcmdev_053475.
html#ixzz32s2uANB1

 

 

From: Steve Walter [mailto:swalte...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 7:54 PM
To: 'Rick'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

So like don't pet them.

 

From: bounce-115943024-8873...@list.cornell.edu
mailto:bounce-115943024-8873...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-115943024-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 7:50 PM
To: 'Claudia Peretti'; 'Robert Lewis'; 'NYSBirds'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

These rattlesnakes (probably the same pair) have been at that site for many
years, plus their progeny. They are venerable citizens of the property.

 

Just one request, be careful when walking in the area, but please LEAVE THEM
ALONE.

 

Thanks,

Rick Cech

 

P.S. One time a few years back a female birder was squatting for a moment
off the trail and found herself right on top of one of the snakes (no
problem experienced, other than the shock).

 

I was photographing one of the pair a few years back and was surprised that
when I heard the rattle I didn't see it in my viewfinder. That's because the
other member of the senior pair was about 5' off my left foot, perhaps
displeased he/she wasn't included in the photo. (Again, no ill effects.)

 

From: bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu
mailto:bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Claudia
Peretti
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:01 AM
To: 'Robert Lewis'; 'NYSBirds'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

Re: Doodletown:  A yard-long Timber Rattlesnake was seen by both the AE
Mearns Bird Club and the Linnaean Society of NYC on Saturday in late
morning.  It was on the edge of the walking path to Herbert Cemetery. We
also saw 19 species of warblers, Kentucky was a good one and a total of 71
species at Doodletown and Iona Island.  Good Birding!  Claudia Perretti

 

From: bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu
mailto:bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:30 PM
To: NYSBirds
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

 

Doodletown Road is a famous birding spot in northern Rockland County.

 

I was there around 5:00 pm and ran into a rattlesnake just along the main
path.  I and two other people heard its rattle, which was more like a
buzz.  This was about 75% of the way up to the top, just past the sign for
Gray House.

 

I took a video, which I may be able to upload soon.  

 

Beware.  

 

Bob Lewis

Sleepy Hollow NY

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

[Rick]

The senior adult I photographed on May 31, 2009, had 13 rattle segments.
Yours may have been 'progeny.' Or, the elder rattles had broken off.

 

http://rbc-pix.smugmug.com/Doodletown-Rattler/

 

 

From: bounce-115944009-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-115944009-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Claudia
Peretti
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:07 PM
To: 'Rick'; 'Robert Lewis'; 'NYSBirds'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

Unfortunately, in the case of the rattlesnake seen by the EA Mearns and
Linnaean Society, the snake had little, if any, rattle.  Claudia Perretti  

 

From: bounce-115943024-3954...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-115943024-3954...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 7:50 PM
To: 'Claudia Peretti'; 'Robert Lewis'; 'NYSBirds'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

These rattlesnakes (probably the same pair) have been at that site for many
years, plus their progeny. They are venerable citizens of the property.

 

Just one request, be careful when walking in the area, but please LEAVE THEM
ALONE.

 

Thanks,

Rick Cech

 

P.S. One time a few years back a female birder was squatting for a moment
off the trail and found herself right on top of one of the snakes (no
problem experienced, other than the shock).

 

I was photographing one of the pair a few years back and was surprised that
when I heard the rattle I didn't see it in my viewfinder. That's because the
other member of the senior pair was about 5' off my left foot, perhaps
displeased he/she wasn't included in the photo. (Again, no ill effects.)

 

From: bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-115930970-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Claudia
Peretti
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:01 AM
To: 'Robert Lewis'; 'NYSBirds'
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

Re: Doodletown:  A yard-long Timber Rattlesnake was seen by both the AE
Mearns Bird Club and the Linnaean Society of NYC on Saturday in late
morning.  It was on the edge of the walking path to Herbert Cemetery. We
also saw 19 species of warblers, Kentucky was a good one and a total of 71
species at Doodletown and Iona Island.  Good Birding!  Claudia Perretti

 

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[mailto:bounce-115910973-3954...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:30 PM
To: NYSBirds
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Rattlesnake at Doodletown

 

 

Doodletown Road is a famous birding spot in northern Rockland County.

 

I was there around 5:00 pm and ran into a rattlesnake just along the main
path.  I and two other people heard its rattle, which was more like a
buzz.  This was about 75% of the way up to the top, just past the sign for
Gray House.

 

I took a video, which I may be able to upload soon.  

 

Beware.  

 

Bob Lewis

Sleepy Hollow NY

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